PTV Build 4 - The diff sprocket, take-up bogie and broken diff diagnosis.

[@BubbaB43]

"that kind of stuff bugs me" same here man it takes me twice the amount of time to build something than the average person would 🤣🤣😂

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

Well, it's taken me a ton of time to get just as far as I've gotten, lol.

[@kermitfrog1897]

This model Peerless differential breaks all the time in the Heald Hauler and Trike models. The Comet version was an upgrade to the peerless and generally didn't break. The peerless is only rated for 11 horsepower and the housing is diecast and usually what breaks. Be sure to use bentonite for lube. There was a guy in Scotland who made billet aluminum housings for these that also added bearings in place of the brass bushings, but unfortunately he has retired. I thought someone would have started making these again by now as there still seems to be a demand for them.

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

I agree all the way around. Peerless is still making them but making them really hard to find and buy, through a distributor. I am signed up with them now but the only way I can get any real deal is to buy like 25 of them at a time! I know I am over powering it on my latest but so far, so good.

[@jeffdavis9575]

NICE WORK SIR! I'm a paraplegic and desperately need something like this so I can get deeper into the woods, creeks etc w/ my G-sons. I've worked as a welder/fab man/machinist way back before my accident and I think this is right up my alley(with help of course). I'm trying to see this baby w/ a seat, maybe lower center of gravity, etc.. I can't thank you enough for publishing all the R&D/part numbers, fails, and triumphs. If you have any ideas for a seated version, I'm all ears! LOL Looking forward to video 5...Thanks again JD

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

Jeff Davis thanks and God bless the work of your hands as you proceed! Advantage is the fact it's all hand controlled, never really thought about that until now. Reverse would be a good benefit for your situation and I've thought about that.

[@jeffdavis9575]

Yessir, handcontrol was 1 of the 1st things I saw plus your R&D and instructions are awesome too. Most comprehensive build I've ever seen on here, I pray I can afford to build 1 too. When you say torque converter, you mean the clutch? I used to build Honda Oddysey ATV's that use the same clutch design. I have an aftermarket one w/ a bigger 1-inch belt and the stall and "shift" points are adjustable w/ the weights and springs. They actually claim its a 2 speed, but it's just a point where the springs allow the belt deeper in it's "pulley" thus changing ratio. Just 1 more tuning aspect I hadn't seen you touch on yet. Have you noticed that ability w/ your clutch? Godspeed kind sir!

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

Jeff Davis TAV 20 is what I believe I used on the first one. It is a Comet-clone torque converter system. Really sounds like you know more about clutch systems than I do! But it is a common system on go karts and mini bikes. Since I'm going with a bigger engine on this one, I bumped up to what is called a series 40. I actually have another series of videos in my build of my first one that may help you as well. Although they are not as detailed as the one I'm building this time. I could easily see this build with a swivel type seat with a lock on it as well. Very interesting application and it would be really cool if you could work toward that. I really wanted to go through the woods with my dog and I've done that several times with my other one. Stay in touch, and let me know if there's anything I can do for you.

[@jeffdavis9575]

It's been many years since I've played w/ mine You may want to look at the engine and driveline on a FL250 or 350 Honda Odyssey. It uses a gear box over an open chained jack shaft and the 350 has reverse. It may give you some ideas you haven't come up with yet. You can make crazy power w a 250, way too much for the stock chassis imo. The engine is configured for your type of drive. Please let me know what you think if you do check it out

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

Great idea, will check out, exactly an option I have needed to consider. On one of my earlier videos (perhaps you have already seen) I had a Suzuki 125 quad engine (with reverse) on it. Comet also makes a generic reverse unit, or used to make it anyway. Thanks for your interest!!

[@rogerb7530]

Could I get a list of parts and where to purchase them please , thanks

[@ericksontibayan5084]

I love that differntial.. where did you get that..? Its a big help if we know where you you get that

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

It's a real challenge now. About the only place is Staton.inc on the net.

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

Matt coblentz

[@prancstaman]

Going to need vertical bracing to keep that frame from flexing. The cross bars you putting in will only do so much with the flexing. You still have to put the motor plate in and would be a great place to put vertical triamgulation off that.

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

prancstaman Great idea, like it!

[@SouthernOhioprepping]

Looking great Pastor. Charles said that the old frame would make a great stat to a robot wars bot lol

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

Grumpy old man does prepping I like the way he thinks!

[@WilliamMcNett]

where did you find or where are you going to find another diff? I recall seeing those years ago but haven't seen them in years.

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

Yeah, this is a tough one. Peerless went through a bankruptcy or was sold, but I have talked with them and Central Power Distributors wholesales them, so I got approved but I would have to buy like 25 to get any kind of deal. Staton.inc has them though. Thanks for watching and a great question!

[@WilliamMcNett]

@@Personal_Track_Vehicle thanks, that lead me to another source progear1.com/standard-differential/

[@sunshine5349]

I want to make an electric bike trailer using the same differential on leaf springs. Do you have any ideas how i would support it so the differential case would not crack like yours did? Or is there a better way to use this differential with a different type of suspension? thanks for awesome video.

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

Is there a reason you need a differential rather than a simple trailer axle? To answer your question, four pillow block bearings are normally perfect support for it. My frame was never welded strong to begin with, that was my problem. Thanks for watching!

[@sunshine5349]

@@Personal_Track_Vehicle because this trailer will have a 750W electric motor powering it driving the 2 wheels and weigh about 600 lbs total with gear

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

@@sunshine5349 you should be fine. Strong frame, two bearings on each side, golden!

[@sunshine5349]

@@Personal_Track_Vehicle thanks for the reply! I'm going to call Peerless tomorrow and see if they can make the differential with a longer 48" axel instead of the standard 38" that staton sells.

[@CenterLineDesigns]

What are you using for a differential? Thanks!

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

A peerless series 100, as of right now they have been discontinued! Now what do we all do now...

[@BagemRuStudio-Trailers]

Thank you brother! I correctly understood that this axis about redcurrents was previously sold and produced in the USA, and now this company is bankrupt? If so, are there any analogues of similar axes today?

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

I have not found any more U.S. thought I saw a Chinese knock-off. Will be looking into this soon.

[@kermitfrog1897]

@@Personal_Track_Vehicle Comet made similar version, model SCD-1 but that has also been discontinued. Have you discovered any alternatives yet?

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

Unfortunately, as of this date which is 12 / 18 2018, Peerless seems to have gone out of business and the differentials are very hard to find. Staton-inc.com may be able to supply one.

[@daviddean7377]

I've got an extra brand new one..

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

@Mike L one guy in our Facebook a group actually did that!

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

@@daviddean7377 Sorry I didn't see this earlier. Do you wanna sell it?

[@gameaddict1090]

Can you do a vid on how to take the diff apart on one of those axils

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

Never thought about it but it's easy. Unbolt the four housing bolts and it comes apart. Maybe simple circlips holding the gears on the inner splines, can't remember. Thanks for the suggestion, if I ever take it out I will be sure to do one. I think there is a video out there somewhere, thanks for watching.

[@rodhardman5237]

Is there another diff you would use besides the h100_224 as I can seam to find that particular one

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

I have never been able to find any other and I have looked a lot. Good news is that I believe it would have been fine had my frame welded right and maybe with a few more pieces for support.

[@mikedill7378]

Your drive axle....think thats for got carts.....way too weak...I have a Raid trac....there are track drive machine.....they use a solid axle....with clutch packs to disengage....and disk breaks...the clutch packs have think four plates...and clutch plates per side....they use size 50 chain to drive......hope this helps you.....add all three wheels at the back....stronger the better.

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

Very good points. This was the axle designated for the Magic Carpet track vehicle so I used it on this one, and the next one. It's good up to 10 hp and I am certainty pushing it with my 13 hp builds but I know that the stress came from the weakness of my frame. I REALLY like the idea of clutch packs and you have inspired me to look into it some more, to this point I hadn't been able to find some that I thought would work. Thanks for watching and commenting! Chuck

[@kenlautsch4410]

Where did you get your diff

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

www.staton-inc.com/store/ is about the only place I know of at the present time.

[@АлександрВасильевич-о1м]

Привет друг по вашему не понимаю но подскажи по нашему что за дифиренсал у вас от какой техники или от машины

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

Tried to translate. I know you are talking about the differential. Are you trying to find a source for one? I will try to understand and help.

[@АлександрВасильевич-о1м]

@@Personal_Track_Vehicle спасибо

[@unitedarabconstructioncomp6128]

Where can I buy the differential and rubber track tire?

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

The diffs have been out of production for a while. the PTV Build 1 - Prep video talks about them with the number which escapes me at the moment. The Peerless company was sold and I don't know the status currently. The tracks were from Summit Supply LLC and the size is 180X60X39, fitting a Honda 250HP powered wheelbarrow as well as other units. Thanks for watching!

[@unitedarabconstructioncomp6128]

@@Personal_Track_Vehicle thank you for your reply hope to see more from you!

[@alaajabarin4080]

I'm waiting the next videos,5,6

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

They are out there!

[@alaajabarin4080]

cwzwartewoude ,sorry I mean the next series 7,8..etc since I downloaded your videos and working in a such PTV ,your video is great and useful.

[@Personal_Track_Vehicle]

Got it! Thanks! Summer has got in the way of my progress a bit. But I do have the basic torsion system designed and constructed and I am going to try to get back on it soon. I think what I have next is pretty neat and unique. Thanks for watching! God bless.

[@mikedill7378]

I put a video so you can see....Raid trac drive system....how they work.