Public EV Charging £200+ per week + Food - I cannot do this anymore 🤣

Hi All, hope you have enjoyed the journey! I have the home charger today, just after I finished this video 🙌
It has cost a fortune on EV power and the Cake and food bill was quite a bit too!
What is your opinion surely .84p per KW is taking the Micky!
I will interested in your thoughts...
Richard
#challengetheroad #cars #currentaffairs #ev #evcars #taycancrossturismo #taycan #evcharging #evchargingstations #evvehicle #telsa

[@rubberplantsandwich]

I love watching these EV channels. It makes me happy that I can't afford one of these daft cars. This channel is particularly good.

[@CarlosArruda77]

Daft cars???? 😅😅😅😅😅. I made a move to one of these "daft" cars. And let me tell you this, I went from £150 average monthly bill in petrol to £12.5 on an EV charger. Not to mention all other positive aspects of it. My wife wasn't sure about it and now she won't move back to ICE engines and, as she calls it, stupid gear boxes. All these KZbinrs with £60k plus cars have obviously not done their home work. He's waiting for a charger, dear me, a 3 pin plug charger. That's not suitable for that size battery and/or the miles he does daily. I use the same sort of charger but we do 10 miles average per day. And another thing is, unless it's a company car, everyone should be aiming at charging at home on a cheaper tariff. If not then yes, stick with petrol. This is coming from a guy (me) that used to be against EV cars not so long ago.

[@davidlewis4399]

@@CarlosArruda77 Dont know what you were driving if an average of 10 miles a day cost £150 a month it would be about £50 if your doing 300 miles a month.

[@ollie8329]

@@CarlosArruda77 £150 per month on petrol when you do 10 miles per day? Maybe don't buy a car that does about 15mpg...

[@rumpoh8039]

MAKING A JOURNEY TO CHARGE AN EV IS A STUPID WAY TO SAVE THE PLANET.

[@tangoadvance8393]

But yet every car ever made before EV’s had to make a journey to get fuel. The fact that this comment has 34 likes just shows how stupid people are. Ps unstick your caps key………

[@warrensmith4590]

​@@tangoadvance8393untrue Most fuelled in the middle of another journey. In 4 minutes. Lasting 300 to 600 miles.

[@tangoadvance8393]

@@warrensmith4590 Yep never in the life of a car owner have they ever gone out to get fuel…………..Do me a favour and type something stupid again. I need a laugh.

[@warrensmith4590]

@@tangoadvance8393 interesting I say Most and you automatically think "never has anyone made a specific journey to get fuel" Very odd, very odd indeed.

[@tangoadvance8393]

@@warrensmith4590 Boom! There it is, a stupid reply. 👍🏻

[@The_Serb]

Jesus wept, after watching his I went outside and hugged my Pajero Sport 3.0L Diesel 4WD and whispered I’ll never ever trade you in 😎

[@Challengetheroad]

Brilliant 🤩

[@chaosflower4892]

EVs are a technological cul de sac.

[@zitzong]

Haha

[@TheWinstn60]

🤣🤣

[@tangoadvance8393]

Yeah the future looks crap with the likes of coke can size motors that produce over 300bhp. Google Quark E motor if you don’t believe me. The levels of Luddite in EV comments is unbelievable.

[@timsbird1971]

@@tangoadvance8393 next you’ll be accused of being an Elon loving leftie liberal shill… :)

[@txDDS]

I'm stealing this. Bravo.

[@benfoster4271]

If you sell food for a living get 5 EV chargers installed you'll never run out of customers needing a snack while they waste their lives waiting to see if its their turn for the car to erupt in flames. 😅

[@edwardsierpowski3839]

And make them reliable but slow and just a little less than at the top price. Best business idea ever!!!

[@mowermanone1621]

“I’ve tried all the cake, I need that charger now!” So funny

[@zzkamikazezz]

You should do a video on how much you think you have spent on extra snacks and drinks because of your ev, it must add a lot to the cost

[@Challengetheroad]

It’s quite a bit each time 🤣🤦‍♂️

[@steveoliver1163]

About an inch on your belt each week 😋😋😋

[@garrygrant2827]

No matter how good the taycan is to have look and drive i just couldn't put up with this constant needing to charge and get just over 200 miles . I have a new diesel and a 700mile range and only need to get fuel once a week plus these expensive chargers that either dont work or wont accept card payments or waiting at charging points or having to go for coffee or food my time is valuable

[@adventtrooper]

So, not only does the range decrease as the battery ages, but also from carrying around an ever enlarging spare tyre.

[@Manic.miner2077]

I just watched a video where a guy had purchased a Porche EV for £120,000 three years ago, he's had enough of it and wants to return to petrol, today his car is worth around £40,000. The dealer that has the car he wants wont take EV's part ex because the price is too volatile, more dealerships are starting to reject part ex EV's because once the car goes out of warranty an new battery can cost £20,000, a battery for his Porche is £40,000 plus labour. It appears that EV's seem to be a disposable product.

[@rbnhd1144]

Your talking about MacMaster, I watch him too, he drives a Taycan while Richard has the estate version, both are in the same blue colour, EV's make no sense to me, I see so many negatives, I.M.H.O. they do more damage than good, some folks rave about how good they are, but I don't consider them to be serious car people or serious about the environment either, 10 years from Now the N.H.S. will be wondering why they have so many stress related patients.

[@rbnhd1144]

As disposable as your mobile phone.

[@ArcanePath360]

In fact some insurance companies refuse to even insure them.

[@SYN_Skydance]

Some but nor all. My car insurance has come down on both my electric vehicles this year

[@Manic.miner2077]

@@SYN_SkydanceI hope that covers the loss of the value of the car.

[@silvermovermedia9737]

Just filled up my diesel Porsche 799 miles range enjoy your charging 😊

[@markkennard861]

And the cost ? Think of me next service.

[@timsbird1971]

Unless that 800 miles cost you £16 gfto.. We pay £2 per 100 miles in electricity.

[@markkennard861]

@@timsbird1971 they just don't get it.. or want to..

[@organickevinlondon]

You Tube "8 new NEOM megaprojects announced" just to see "what yer funding, every time yer fill up"

[@silvermovermedia9737]

@@timsbird1971 I don’t have home charging so have to pay 79p at Instavolt which makes it way more expensive than my ICE

[@Malpriorvids]

The majority of people don’t have off street parking, so for many public charging is the only option. People need to add up the extra time required to not only charge, but to go out of your way to get to a charger. Time isn’t free, otherwise you wouldn’t get paid for work.

[@Challengetheroad]

That’s a great point, you have to plan everything and it can get stressful at times

[@organickevinlondon]

I charge my Mini Cooper Electric up, at my FREE local public charging point, O.K. so I go 500 meters "out of my way??" to get to the charger, then leave it charging there, as I bog off home, I've been doing this for 4 years now.

[@Malpriorvids]

@@organickevinlondon last time you commented you had a Cooper SE Electric, now it’s a boggo Up!. You were bragging about the 0-60 times. I reckon you take the bus to Matalan every 2 weeks on benefit day.

[@organickevinlondon]

@@Malpriorvids WTF is a boggo up?????, oh, and your "assessment?????" of me, is way off the mark too.

[@davefish8107]

I heard one MP saying that people without home chargers can go to charge their cars on a Saturday morning

[@Mizzkan]

You wait until they come after the home chargers. Now that will get people mad when that finally hits and all these lovely tariffs disappear..

[@Challengetheroad]

That will be next! Energy companies will raise prices!

[@1bruce1dreamer]

@@Challengetheroadsome daft people still think when the whole country are trying to charge overnight it will still be super cheap 😂😂😂

[@vinnyward6547]

@@Challengetheroad I think it will be more than the Electric companies raising prices, I think in the future the Gov will hit EV home chargers because of the massive loss of revenue to Fuel Duty that they make as they made £25.1 billion in 2022/23 and they wont let EVs get away without paying it at some point in the future.

[@andygolesworthy7530]

Then generate your own electricity

[@vinnyward6547]

@andygolesworthy7530 do you honestly think they won't add fuel duty to something else? No government anywhere is going to let 25 billion dissappear out of their coffers if it isn't electric, they will get it from.they will get it from somewhere else. Plus, having solar panels and a battery fitted will cost upwards of around 7k from what I can see online and that's if you can charge at home as nationally most people dont have a drive, also that's around 8 yrs of petrol for my car even taking a 5% yearly interest into the equation so where am I saving money?

[@Nixyboy]

Get a Myenergi Zappi fitted, sign up to Octopus IO, charge between 23.30 & 05.30 for 7.5p KWh,job done!

[@vandamonium1731]

wow ... that makes me chuckle reading that as my corolla hybrid is 7p per mile to run! and i get 79mpg and a charge of petrol

[@eyepod1967]

Totally mate, I charge my Ioniq 5 using Octopus overnight. Usually go from around 10% up to 80%, all within the 7.5p KWh window and it costs me about £3.50, adds around 160 miles (2.3p per mile) I do miss McDonalds though!!

[@sagalout]

@@vandamonium1731 7p per kWh not per mile. Would work out at about 2p per mile

[@vandamonium1731]

@@sagaloutand have you adde dthe 15-19% adjustment for losses of the charger as you dont use 1kw to ad 1kw you need 1.2kw to do that.... also its apparent you dont use it as a normal car and when i had my ioniq5 it was more expensive to run than my 2019 hybrid

[@sagalout]

@@vandamonium1731 ok - 2.2p per mile 😂. I have a Tesla as my daily driver / family / holidays car. I have a Mustang V8 as my hobby car

[@rbnhd1144]

I predict £1 Kw very soon, but I'm also wondering if the Govt is subsidizing the industry until its forced on us, of course when its the only game in town we will all be held hostage, there will be no going back.

[@Challengetheroad]

You could be right! If it goes that high then it’s over for EV and it will probably go £1 kw

[@GhettoDefendant937]

Quarter pounder with cheese meal.....supersize me! 🤣🤣

[@Challengetheroad]

🤣

[@elekkr]

You mean "Royale with cheese " ?!😅😊

[@edwardsierpowski3839]

SuperCharge me!

[@ianchalklen1047]

Hi Richard. I don’t live far from you and currently there is a new village that is nearing completion. A mix of flats,2,3 and 4 bedroom houses. The pavements are already full of cars and allocated parking is in small car parks between the houses. Very few actually have parking next to the house. Over a 1000 properties and no thought to home charging. Many of the older houses are terraced, so again leaving them unsuitable for home charging. You have had a few weeks of inconvenience and great expense; just imagine that could be the normal for so many.

[@Challengetheroad]

Hi Ian, exactly why I done it, as how can we all adopt to something that does not work for all. Thanks for commenting 👍

[@Mattceeee]

Be a bit careful with a 13 pin charger. Use a decent socket and if using an extension, unwind it fully and make sure it can handle at least 10 amps. A coiled extension can get hot.

[@johanndork5364]

I just put in an outside socket with dedicated cable run to its own 16 amp trip fuse on CU. Works fine on wife’s i3. 10 amp charge rate.

[@G58]

Why bother trying to help them. ​​⁠They don’t want to learn. Just grab a beer and pull up a chair. Darwin has a plan for the EV sheeple.

[@chromiumphotography5138]

Charging regulated? It is all going to be in the favour of the government's chums.

[@grabannon]

No one is surprised pricing isn't regulated. Once they do they will adopt these high prices.

[@Jeff-gq1sl]

Just get a 7kw wall box professionally installed. Issue over.

[@v4skunk739]

Electricity bills can easily go up again though. I predict in 5 years or less EV's will be more expensive to run than a fossil burner.

[@michael.randall5034]

hI, i LIVE IN A FLAT!!

[@whitehart11]

And have to have smart meter! No way

[@michaelgodbold6247]

Or buy a proper car

[@unimagin2ble]

@@michael.randall5034 getting an ev is pointless if you don't have a drive or somewhere to plug it in near your house

[@Birmingham_racing]

If I didn't have a home charger I would have given up a lot time ago

[@matthewharding-ew1ts]

I l ive in the North and believe me no garden centres, McDonald's have EV charging!

[@stuntcar]

Iv just seen an article on MSN. (Drivers urged to save £1800 a year by ditching petrol and diesel vehicles and switching to electric.) this is just nuts 😂😂😂😂

[@johanndork5364]

Minus what you have pay extra on EV car insurance.

[@Mizzkan]

Nobody buys an EV to save money or they would not have bought one.

[@mikadavies660]

Why is it nuts? In 2022 I got my wife an EV. Her £150/mth petrol bill dropped to £25 to £30/mth in electric. 15 months later our electric bill has dropped and the annual service was £99 at the dealer. Where is the issue?

[@Mizzkan]

@@mikadavies660 How have you saved money. It sounds like it cost you more money buying an EV ?

[@mikadavies660]

@Mizzkan Keep looking at it as negative as you like. I don't give a flying fuck... I had to change the wife's car. So I changed it for an EV. No difference in cost to buy... a car is a car. Fuel is different. Dealer service is a little cheaper. Take from it what you like.

[@HappyBagger]

Imagine how easy life would be if only somebody invented a car which took 3 minutes to fill up and get you 600+ miles on that "charge"... oh wait a minute...

[@G-ra-ha-m]

People with EVs seem to adjust their lifestyles to suit the charging, rather than just spending their lives doing what they want ...

[@stephenballantyne]

Imagine how easy life would be if only somebody invented a car which filled up for pennies while you slept and allowed you to start each day with plenty of range to get you through not only that day, but probably most of the week....oh wait a minute...

[@kgfgfg1]

@@stephenballantynethat sounds like a Plug-in Hybrid car

[@stephenballantyne]

@kgfgfg1 LOL! Yeah, just chuck all the powertrains into my car. Why not add a steam engine and some pedals as well? Let's see how heavy and inefficient we can make this thing 🤣

[@kgfgfg1]

@@stephenballantyne I would only add a steam engine for heating old passenger rail Waggons… but we are talking about cars not plug in hybrid locomotives. Here were I live, many of the new locomotives are Hybrids that run diesel and or electric if available. This saves us a lot of diesel as they can switch on the fly. Also we have already two electric highways for lorries 🚛 to drive electric while getting the power from the electrified highway.

[@Hitstirrer]

The 3 pin 'granny charger' is intended for emergency use only. There are valid reasons for that, to do with full safety. It's a bit of a nerdy topic and too long to go into here, but very valid and important. They should not be used as a permanent solution for these nerdy reasons. Just for when visiting 'granny' in deepest mid-Wales with no public chargers around. A properly installed 7kW home charger is fitted with various devices to make it electrically fully safe, so that quite apart from it charging much faster it is a much better solution if full safety of your home and family is important to you.

[@whitehart11]

Never use anything but 3 pin. Charge off PV's

[@Hitstirrer]

@@whitehart11 I can show you ten pictures of potentially serious fires started by the use of 3 pin chargers. But so far you have been lucky. That is all.

[@whitehart11]

@@Hitstirrer Nothing flammable where charger is situated.

[@Hitstirrer]

@@whitehart11 The thing that catches fire is the house socket where the granny charger is plugged in. And that can start a fire in the house wiring. You can ignore warnings of course. But please don’t encourage others to take the same risks.

[@G58]

@@Hitstirrer They don’t want to learn. Just grab a beer and pull up a chair. Darwin has a plan for the EV sheeple.

[@faithfullytuned]

Does the taycan adjust charging current ? If not I strongly recommend against a 13a 3 pin charger regardless of its reviews. Aim for a 10a maximum to save your circuits from overloading. Please don't underestimate how much unnecessary and unseen risk you take when using a 13a charger as your primary. There's a reason the manufacturers rarely if ever go over 10a.

[@MoaningGit]

Cheaper running my f-type V8 than running a similar performance EV

[@ulysees321]

Sounds 1000 times better to

[@jackdanielsamarreto]

And your better for it 👍👍👍

[@tangoadvance8393]

It’s really not, this guys mistake is to think he don’t need a wall charger at home. I had a F-Type now have a EV which is way faster than the F-Type was. This month has cost under £15 in fuel at 0.03p a mile. No home box no EV due to the ridiculous public charging fees.

[@tangoadvance8393]

The fact that this has had so many thumbs up just shows how stupid and misinformed the public are on EV’s.

[@jackdanielsamarreto]

@@tangoadvance8393 humbug !!! If let’s take mathematics into this equation ? You have a diesel car say weighing 1 tonne than you drive to a builders merchants and add another tonne of cement across the car than drive it around, the extra weight on the rubber tyres alone will cause you to go through more tyres than a normal weighted car ? Again with mathematics how much are these batteries to replace after 4/5 years of use ? Without being rude you stick to electric cars I’ll stay with petrol and diesel.

[@EVPHASE]

That's a $150k car you bought, charging in the US costs about $11 for 200 miles

[@kennyhumphries100]

Can almost guarantee,anyone that sein you in that car would instantly think “ what a complete try hard nadbag in a poor man’s Porsche that’s rapidly declining and nobody wants”.

[@lollylaunder]

Richard keep an eye on that granny charger come back to it after it's been running for a few hours and check how hot the 3 pin plug is getting. Usually they run at 10 amps so that's 2.5kW so like having a kettle on constantly. If it does draw 3kW in the car then if possible lower it in the car if the taycan can do that to 2kW just to be a bit safer

[@Challengetheroad]

Thanks for the tip, will check

[@adventtrooper]

@@Challengetheroad Do check. I had a socket that was fine for the odd toasted sandwich maker or charging AA batteries, and then I used it for an oil-filled radiator on low (400W) and noticed it was getting warm. Checked the socket, and one wire was completely loose and the insulation starting to discolour; a higher load would have caused real problems.

[@mikedee8876]

very convincing......I am keeping my petrol pariah, and staying single

[@user-pb1tb1ux3c]

They have to try and recoup investment before the bubble bursts, as charging infrastructure companies are on the verge of going bust already

[@pauljohn8983]

Great viewing Richard. I’ve rented a Tesla for our holiday in Florida and have been paying 38c at the Tesla super charger. 30 min full charge for less than $20. Same problem in relation to the proximity to fast food though😂

[@larky368]

It takes only 5 minutes for a gasser. And how much is 25 minutes of your time worth?

[@andrewwaller5913]

You rented an EV in a country with cheap petrol? You're quite mad 😂

[@pauljohn8983]

@@andrewwaller5913 You’d think so but they priced the charging to compete. So a full tank in a mid size petrol vehicle is costing around $40-45 but for the same range in a Tesla it’s only costing $20 and that’s at a super charger. Much less overnight at home. They wouldn’t sell any at UK charging rates that’s for sure and for full transparency I drive a diesel in the UK😂

[@pauljohn8983]

@@larky368 I agree it sometimes needs planning. Overnight at home, no time lost. On a long trip I’d usually have a 30 min break anyway and locally there are options to charge while shopping, dining or even catching up on e mail. For full transparency I did this for the experience and I currently drive a diesel in the UK 😂

[@rumpoh8039]

DELIVERY DRIVER PROBABLY HAS EV AND IT HAS NO RANGE LEFT

[@Challengetheroad]

🤣

[@fenegroni]

Please do not set the granny charger to 13A or 16A, the socket will likely burn as they are not designed for a sustained load at 13A and 16A is likely going to cause a fire. The granny lead you got should only draw 2.2 kWh at 10Amp and your onboard charger will then have some losses and so for each kWh in your battery, you will be using 1.1 kWh from the 3pin plug. I use a granny lead at 10A for 10 or more hours once or twice a week and it gets mildly warm and it's safe.

[@Challengetheroad]

It’s set on 13a so will check in the morning

[@chromiumphotography5138]

BTW where did you get the dpm jacket from? Looks great for the canal.

[@neiltitmus9744]

The only way i would have one of these is if i had a farm with 3 phase charging and solar panels and other vehicles for when not appropriate

[@bigfist255]

3-pin plugs aren't always recommended, but if you're charging directly from a 3-pin plug in a dry and safe space, and the cable or plug doesn't feel hot to touch when charging, it's most likely safe to charge your EV for an extended length of time. So, to charge from 20-80% it could take between 15 and 20 hours.

[@theyjustwantyourmoney4539]

The other thing is so many different companies installing public chargers, it's so confusing which card works on which, this is where we're charged higher prices whilst trying out

[@gb5uq]

My Kia Sorento 2.5 TD gets me to work and back every day for £130 a month.

[@brandonfromlondonuk3484]

but who on earth wants to drive a KIA

[@gb5uq]

@@brandonfromlondonuk3484 Maybe you should visit Earth and find out...

[@NerdInMotion23]

You'll end up looking like me eating all those sausage and egg muffins 😂

[@shorehambeach]

Speaking to the local Shell garage (who just added 8 charge points ) the electric charge points can’t be under cover or a canopy due to fire risk.

[@Challengetheroad]

Thank you, I have seen solar roofed charging abroad, it’s just the weather here, you would get soaked.

[@andrewgage6942]

I have been asking the question with regard to how you know how much you're paying per kilowatt, there should be a display in the same way they do with petrol/diesel prices at filling stations. I drive a 13 year old Smart diesel, it costs me £21 ish a week for my 60 mile daily commute, I contemplated changing to electric, I don't have access to off road parking so I would be solely reliant on public charging and the infrastructure isn't there, then there's the cost of electricity, where you find "working" chargers, we have quite a few chargers in the area where I live but only two are connected to the grid, and the two that are connected, one hasn't worked for years according to an electric vehicle owner, how much does it cost? It doesn't say anywhere, electric vehicle driving is too complicated for many of the older generations, everything inside the vehicle is on computer screens, I struggle with this, but you need to be computer qualified to drive an electric vehicle, I'm of the older generation, I and many like me have always dealt in cash, if you haven't got it you can't spend it, we budget, with electric vehicles, you need a credit card, I wouldnt know how to use a credit card, I can't use many of these new technical parking meters that still take real money, the government are trying to enforce electric vehicles on us without the infrastructure, adequate training on computers to be able to use these vehicles and a way that everyone can pay, ive been with the same bank for just over 50 years and I have never had a bank card and i dont know how to use a bank card/card, its been made too complicated, I didnt have to drive so far to get to would give up driving, but there's no public transport to where I work and I have to work to survive, so I will keep my little diesel until the government force me to stop working or driving

[@roblachman8919]

Don’t worry old mate Greta thinks your fantastic. I fill my diesel Isuzu D-Max and get 700ks range and pass heaps of service centres without the stress you seem to be having. Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺👍

[@Challengetheroad]

I think the Aston v12s are much cheaper 🤣

[@dailylifefactuk]

looks like Shred Quarters, A great Gym

[@PRDowding]

£200 a week ??? I regularly drive my diesel Peugeot 508 between Wiltshire ,Carmarthenshire & back & it costs me less than half that ! & I get over 70mpg !

[@tangoadvance8393]

He’s paying that rather than sub £5 a week home charging. Because he’s a muppet. Home charger is a MUST for EV at the moment due to criminal costs.

[@bigstugti]

​@@tangoadvance8393dont forget that a 508 diesel obvious has the same performance as a taycan as well 😂😂😂

[@tangoadvance8393]

@@bigstugti 😂 He probably never played Toptrumps as a kid.

[@Test-Tube-Baby-xo8xx]

You buy or lease a £90k car and you're fretting about the price of electricity? Comedy gold! 🤣I paid £4k for my car and I get 60mpg around town and it takes me 3 minutes and 50 quid to fill the tank.

[@markc6714]

Well you were the one that bought a ridiculous expl#sive vehicle with all their issues and limitations

[@organickevinlondon]

the Taycan does about a laughable 2 and 1/2 miles per kWh, I've just checked my Mini Cooper Electric's energy consumption, and its doing almost 6 miles per kWh.

[@floydfanboy2948]

Dude, where do you find the time for this hassle? Madness.

[@Challengetheroad]

Hopefully not too much longer chargers arrived and podpoint soon!

[@Malcolm-nj8ky]

The charging company has to charge a higher rate per KWH to cover the losses. It's easy to think recharging an EV is like filling your car with gas. If it takes 13.0 gallons of fuel to fill an empty 13.0-gallon tank, then why wouldn't an empty battery with a capacity of 60.0 kilowatt-hours require 60.0 kWh to reach full charge? Because the battery is more complicated than a simple container. A rough expectation is that your EV may use as much as 12 to 15 percent more energy than what you add back to the battery. Some energy is written off to what's known as "transmission loss," some is converted to heat, and some is used to keep the battery at the right temperature during charging.

[@bentullett6068]

It does seem that they place fast food restaurants directly next to EV charging hubs. Then you have to factor in how much the charging is and the expensive food and coffee will be.

[@MrSonicAdvance]

Buy a burger van and set it up next to an EV charging station. 😉

[@GregoryTKint]

People need to start adding the price of all the fastfood and coffees to the actual charging price. So basically EVs are bad for your health, because you need to add in all the carbs/calories next to the kWh 😂

Brilliant ahah!

[@onlyme972]

What it cost to buy? What's it worth now? Or is it on endless finance?

[@PenryMMJ]

There seems to be a lot of financial jiggery pokery going on with the companies running EV chargers. Sign up for the app and get a discount. Pay a monthly premium subscription and get a better discount. Pre-load your account with credit and get a discount. Petrol companies have never needed to do that. It all seems a bit fishy, like the charge companies don't want you to know how much your actually going to pay.

[@f35500]

Also they don’t have the prices outside on a sign like petrol stations! Ps see your kegs coming on nicely Richard with all the charging !

[@duckman5642]

Plug it in the house, easy.

[@Challengetheroad]

It’s arrived!

[@jackdanielsamarreto]

That’s a lovely car guvner but it’ll be even nicer with a V8 petrol engine in it, my days of an electric car was in 1970s fairground dodgems.

[@Challengetheroad]

I need to get back out in the v12 Aston Martin!

[@jackdanielsamarreto]

@@Challengetheroad Lovely you can’t beat the smell of petroleum coming out them 4 pipes 👍👍👍👍

[@paulmorgan6269]

We know petrol prices go up and down. Energy or Electrical prices only keep going up.

[@rustywishbone]

The cure for high electricity prices is high prices. The high prices are encouraging so much investment in the charging network that we can expect the network to be overbuilt and prices to fall to much lower levels. It might take a couple of years to get there, but it will happen. If prices were capped by the Government, the network wouldn't get built out as fast, so it is good in the long run.

[@davidnowhere2637]

Heard the same excuse for privatisation.

[@Tem-zj6wr]

£0.84 = NZ$1.73! WTH!! At most I pay NZ$0.34/kW out and about and NZ$0.12/kW at home. This is what will kill EVs as a thing.

[@TheWinstn60]

The charger will arrive on an Electric Van. The Pod Point has a PSL Number underneath mine was incorrectly registered but Pod Point helpdesk got it sorted out

[@user-sy5wy7rl3z]

I will never drive an EV or Hybrid incendiary devices kaaabbooom🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@kgfgfg1]

Pro Tip: you are NOT supposed to DC Charge your car everyday. DC Charging is for long distance travels only. Charge it up at home with an Anderson Charger and have a great day!

[@Challengetheroad]

Thanks for the info!

[@barryrathbone]

Public chargers are expensive but the government still charge 20% vat on public chargers InstaVolt are crazy Gridserve slightly better but cheapest of all are the open Tesla chargers which in my case are 35p per kWh. The plug in granny chargers are just so pitiful at charging speed. I’ve found two things necessary with an ev one is a head torch for when it’s dark and the ability to reverse park!

[@Challengetheroad]

Thank you, things will need to change for EV to grow and good on Tesla for a low rate charging cost.

[@fredfred2363]

Why can't you use the pod-point charger at your new gaff?

[@Challengetheroad]

Hopefully soon, have sent them more details to transfer too

[@steviewylie5267]

An EV only makes sense if you can charge at home even better if you have solar panels,but public charging can be very costly and sometimes unreliable,what car done a test over 220mls two EVs against petrol same models,one was a small puegot thr other a BMW 4 series and gues what was cheaper,it wasn't the EV although it wasn't a big difference it was dearer for the EV to travel the same 220ml round trip.

[@DrDave_63395]

Glad to hear your are getting a "Granny Charger" for home charging -surprised you did not already have one as it was included as standard equipment in both my EVs. Yes I know they are slow (3.5kW) but it would save much of the pain going to public chargers but you will be able to use much cheaper overnight electric tarrifs. That said you have highlighted a problem with EVs for usersnot able to charge at home - the high cost of using the public charging network. Tesla owners will gleefully point out that they pay much less. For use nonTesla drivers, at least the Tesla chargeing network is being opened up to other EV owners. Do what you can in getting some sense in the the public EV charger pricing like what you are doing with JLR car insurance.

[@Challengetheroad]

It’s arrived and hopefully 7kw done soon too 🙌

[@DrDave_63395]

@@Challengetheroad good the hear. BTW just found that the circuit breaker feeding my home 7kW charger has died. I suspected after a couple of times it had tripped on an overnight charge earlier in the month. Now using the granny charger until I get a new circuit breaker

[@peterpan6821]

You know the people you went to school with, who didn't pay attention. This.

[@Challengetheroad]

💯 me - but I am very happy 😊

[@fenegroni]

Where do you live? Isn’t there a Tesla supercharger near you? Some are open to non-Tesla and are way cheaper than other public chargers: my local one is 40 p per kWh and if you pay £10 a month it’s 30p per kwh

[@Challengetheroad]

I will check - but home charger has arrived 🙌

[@thecentralscrutinizer1758]

I just don't understand people who buy EVs and then complain about the problems they encounter. We all know what a vault of nightmares they are. I'm late 50s, everything paid off and I changed car last year. I bought a 2012 Peugeot 107 (a re-badged Toyota Aygo.) It cost me £4250. Full service history 57k miles. It does everything your money pit does only better. I get about 55 mpg, no road tax, parts are as cheap as chips, I can fill up at any garage in a matter of minutes and it's great fun to drive. Sure you can leave me for dust at the lights but I just meet up with you at the next set of lights or pull up behind while you're being delayed by the HGV doing 30mph. Each to their own but why people are spending telephone money on EVs or any car for that matter just baffles me.

[@chromiumphotography5138]

One last one from me - £200"charging in a week. Can you try to put that in context for non EV drivers? If you were in a RR or Cayenne, covering a similar milage, what would that have cost on a forecourt?

[@Challengetheroad]

Thank you, it was about £226 a week for around 650 miles on Public charging for me.

[@johanndork5364]

…about 20 mpg in petrol then.

[@dryster123]

So for four weeks, my 21 year old car resides in my driveway and reliably takes me from A to B every day, and then I go put C$80 of petrol in it during five minutes at the gas station, I tell you, that stresses me out. If only I had a garden centre and all that time to spare my life would be so much better and the planet would thank me.

[@NastyPasty1123]

I’d be ripped lol :)

[@geoffchaplin2123]

84 p is taking the piss, it’s like motorway services, got away with rip off prices for 40 years!

[@Challengetheroad]

💯

[@angusaddison3926]

What a boring life, running from garden centres to Mc Donald’s to get charged. What a waste of time. 😊😅

[@Challengetheroad]

Expense for good too!

[@stewartlawson3665]

Hi Richard, any updates on the GT4

[@Challengetheroad]

Hi Stewart, we got the boot lock fixed last week, so it’s coming be to storage and filming now 👍

[@stewartlawson3665]

Thanks Richard. I'll look forward to that. I have a similar car, same colour as well

[@geoffchaplin2123]

cheeky burger 😮😅, think you should get a free one every charge 😝 or at least a latte 😂😂😂😂

[@Challengetheroad]

You are right! At least a free coffee at these prices

[@martinday2815]

If I were a business owner, and installed EV chargers, I would not want gov interference on how much I charge. And why should there be regulation? There is none for petrol or diesel, its charge what they think they can get away with. I can't help but think that because gov interfered with the market, it has been skewed in some way. Should have let the market sort itself out, like betamax / VHS cassette tapes, CDs, minidisks, the whole home computer market etc... the moment government interterferes with anything it just turns toxic.

[@wynnjones6662]

How’s the search for the Porsche 997 going Richard?

[@Challengetheroad]

I have looked at 2 997s and not gone with either one, but we have a Third one to look at next week,

[@wynnjones6662]

Looking forward to this project 👍

[@snodgee]

I’ve read that a fast chargers costs over $200,000 and the average life span is 7 years

[@Crosshatch1212]

Never driving a firework

[@tomc.2808]

Yes mate - EV car is smart and probably recognized that fitness club is too dangerous for you...

[@benjoudi3399]

Sad situation with EV

[@richardmurphy9006]

You go with me i think you need a nephew for company and big yap

[@Aliens_Gonna_Get_Ya]

EV’s… 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@tangoadvance8393]

Hilarious, only with one fault, but you already know that don’t you?

[@sagalout]

This is why Tesla is still so far ahead as an all round EV package. It’s half the price, about 40p per KwH

[@Challengetheroad]

That’s would it should be for non Tesla’s owners, although I think Tesla have opened up there network for non Telsa owner’s. I am not sure what Tesla charge for this Taycan etc

[@sagalout]

@@Challengetheroad they’ve opened up some of the network - about 20% I think. It’s more expensive for non-Tesla unless you pay the £10 per month membership, then I think it’s the same

[@whitehart11]

£200 a week for f's sake!

[@Challengetheroad]

Plus food 🥘 🤦‍♂️🤣

[@jamesweist8599]

Insane, they tried electric back in the 1900s, it failed and will fail again. History does repeat

[@mrgrumpy771]

🤠🤠🤠rule!!!

[@tomc.2808]

Yes they were future couple years ago - just not anymore.

[@ericosborne7096]

If the charger from Amazon you are showing on the video is the one you are actually buying your car will spend most of its life on charge

[@tangoadvance8393]

It’s like the FUD just won’t go away lol.

[@jessicaandtrains7768]

I hope you're not eating that poison 😵 Since reading a book on Ultra processed food I've not touched the stuff and never want to again. Do yourself a favor and avoid it.

[@johnminshell7595]

My diesel car has done 250,000 miles nothing wrong with it easy to service I do most of it myself age 87 why would I need a new car?

[@tangoadvance8393]

Who says you do?

[@Challengetheroad]

Stick with the Diesel!

[@jondavies5885]

Tesla reduced their charging prices for tesla owners, so mate wirh one tells me. Shame pricing double for a lot of other chargers.

[@Birmingham_racing]

£200 a week? Only a taxi driver can relate to that

[@KnightsofComputation]

It's going to get a lot more expensive as more Nvidia chips get used in EVs.

[@michael.randall5034]

84 P PER k/w IS TOO EXPENSIVE. petrol is far cheaper

[@andrewwaller5913]

Just buy a diesel for God's sake, 55mpg all day long. 5 min to fil up 500 mile range. Not difficult.

[@Devondogsclub]

Ohh Richard you did make me laugh when i saw in your "fat jacket"😂😅😂💯

[@Challengetheroad]

🤣🙌