Pugging to Keystone Master || Zero to KSM Challenge #1

[@Dillisan]

Many have asked about the addons I use, I'll make a video in the future going over them all but for now this is what I use: All THE THINGS Astral Keys Auctionator Bartender4 BetterCharacterPanels BigWigs FriendGroups GTFO HandyNotes LeatrixPlus Mythic Dungeon Tools Narcissus OmniCD Opie Pawn Plater Nameplates Postal Raider.IO RareScanner SavedInstances Shadowed Unit Frames SharedMedia_Causese Simulationcraft WeakAuras World Quest List

[@zerodivided3676]

This is an invalid attempt in my opinion. You have done raids on that character. True M+ PUG challenge looks like this: 1.roll a healer (can be a meta) instead of a DPS (to invalidate the whole 'was I carried / probably / maybe' bullshit) 2. no raids done other than LFR on that character Getting KSM on the most meta of DPS classes with raid gear is zero - I repeatL ZERO - challenge. Sorry, you put effort into this and you sound like a nice dude but, mate, this is far from a challenge. At the very least don't call it a PUGGING challenge. (from your description: I will be playing a role I'm not great with, a class I have no idea how to play and the pure pain of 100% pugging. so you went multiple weeks to a HC raid with that class and pretend to have no idea how to play it... yikes)

[@Dillisan]

@@zerodivided3676 I think you misunderstood what I said in the video. I raid on my main character, a Demon Hunter (as Melee). I started leveling the DK right at the beginning of the video, this character has never been in an organised group which is pretty clear in the video. If this is not the content for you then that's fair, I appreciate your comment nonetheless.

[@Kitahand]

​@@zerodivided3676 His DK hasn't been to any organised raids, he levelled it fresh like last week for the challenge. He got carried in *previous* seasons, on 2 different characters, he wanted to try making it alone with just pugs this season and a class he's never played seriously (DK tank). We get to see him gear up in the video! :D

[@ragnaer1305]

You should be able to. I got KSM in Shadowlands each season and it was a pain with pugs, especially because I don’t do raids. In Dragonflight we have established a very stable mythic + group and we are working our way towards 20s (our best clear so far is a 19) so it’s entirely manageable! Sure it’s more difficult when you are not on voice chat with an organised group, but it can be done, if you are really hardcore about it, make sure you choose your team wisely, I never suggest for people to only go for meta specs, but do look out for people’s rating and ilevel, it can be a good indicator of their overall performance, thus making your runs go a lot smoother. Overall, very nice video, you had a good running commentary throughout the whole thing, and you definitely have the chance to push even higher than 2k rating, I’m getting over 2.2k as we speak, and the runs are definitely getting harder by each level! Keep up the good work mate 👍🏽🙏🏼

[@Ajp155]

which is the mount circle thing??

[@amyjohnson2720]

I just got KSM this weekend by pugging my own keys...it was rough, VERY rough. Getting KSM is easy if you have friends or a guild to run with: I have neither 😑 I even add people I enjoyed running keys with, but I never hear from them afterwards! I make my own groups and title them as "chill, friendly" to keep them fun (I mean this a game afterall). Good luck man, I'm definitely rooting for you!

[@Dillisan]

Love this! Yes pugging can be rough but you can get some decent groups. Pugging your own key is great, so is adding good players from those groups so never be afraid to do so (though I would always ask if it's okay before adding). The Druid in my M0 group added me after they left :D. A few users in the comments also mentioned not having friends to play with...if you're on EU I stream every Saturday and run keys with the community. They're on my alts so lowish keys but still, it's open to everyone regardless is skill level. Thank you for the kind words, good luck with your keystones and keep making awesome groups!

[@CrystalzDCUO]

I aimed for my first KSM this season and achieved it during the first 2 or 3 weeks mostly pugging and playing as feral. Low keys are a pain but the higher you get the more comfy pugging is. In my opinion solo KSM is possible for any person and any spec if you have the right mindset. Go for it 🖤

[@Dillisan]

Nice, not enough Feral players out there atm :(. Yeah you deffo need the right mindset, especially if you're gonna achieve it in that space of time. Good stuff!

[@haygoof]

That was really good! I really enjoy the voiceover over the gameplay, it is really well polished! Excited for the next episode :D

[@Dillisan]

Thank you, means a lot! Currently editing the next one so hopefully done in a few days

[@videomaster952]

Excited for this series! you do a great job explaining and narrating!

[@Dillisan]

Thank you so much, means a lot! Perhaps I continue doing it that way, who knows :D

[@Oceans_ai]

Hey man! Good on you. Currently pugging my way to KSH and it is a blast! Definitely tilting once you get to the point that people are only there for rating and leave at the earliest mistake, but still fun most keys. Playing a bear tank which also adds some spice.

[@Dillisan]

Oh man, you went Bear? That's sick, not enough of you out there! Thanks dude, GL on your grind. KSH is something I will consider for future challenges but that skill level is a bit beyond me atm :P

[@kilyes]

I found your video randomly , i really enjoyed it and I'm excited for rest of the series , great job especially the narrating 👏

[@Dillisan]

Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed

[@PidgePlaysGames]

Excellent quality and content. Subbed. Excited to see where this series goes.

[@Dillisan]

Thanks Pidge!

[@YeahKato]

I feel the same way about playing with friends or guildies, it's a horrible certain type of anxiety, I have played for 11 years and have never felt like I have properly progressed through the content.

[@Dillisan]

If you ever find out how to overcome it, let me know! But yeah, I thought I was alone with this sort of thing, it's comforting to know I'm not.

[@Wonnnebju]

Love the challenge! It's funny cause I had similar decision making. Hit ksm in s4 as resto druid only pugging as a former dps only player. So for DF I chose the tank role and went with a blood dk. Currently I'm sitting close to 2600. My advice would be to plan routes beforehand and using your kit to help cc (e.g. grab for 2 additional interrupts). Be prepared to proactively use defensives going into packs when not chain pulling. Don't get frustrated with teammates making mistakes glhf!

[@Dillisan]

Nice one, smashing it! Yeah I figured out the double grip, it's great for groups that don't know where their interrupts are, some clutch moments :D. I didn't plan the lower keys but the 10's and higher I have been using MDT, though I still got flamed for my route (I follow Dorki's routes, amazing multiclass Tank...). Thanks for the comment!

[@vtgnative]

Nice video, man. I’m excited to see you complete this challenge.

[@Dillisan]

Thank you, excited to complete it! Hope you enjoy :)

[@staycold682]

I get the feeling of feeling anxious inviting friends/guilds. I don't know what it is. If I fuck up massively with a group where no one knows me, no biggie, move on. If I mess up massively with guildies, they remember that 😂 and sometimes, I just like low interaction content. I like to play with some Netflix on, I don't feel like being social sometimes. It happens :)

[@alihorda]

For me it's the opposite. Since you stick with guild /friends (normally) they less likely to be toxic and raging. With pugs they leave at the smallest mistake For example I went stars +9 with friends and we died over 80 times (I don't know why) but had a big laugh. Not a single pug would have went through this lol

[@Dillisan]

Oh good, I'm not alone! I feel exactly the same way lol. Netflix and grind? Yup, very guilty of that too :D

[@Dillisan]

I have moments like this for sure but usually I have the fear of letting friends down. I always put myself down, so hopefully this series gives me more self-confidence! :)

[@Wahligma]

I'm actually in a similar thing myself as I recently started playing last week for the first time since MoP and back then I didn't even raid or pvp, just did world content so my experience with content is super limited. I'm unsure if it's because it's easier content or not, but I managed to get my keystone master done actually last night starting from level 70 ungeared on my fury warrior which was hilarious to me since going into it, I thought it was potentially going to be this extremely daunting challenge especially since I pugged the entire thing too. Definitely earned my sub man and I look forward to seeing how yours goes on this.

[@Dillisan]

Thanks Wahlig, means a lot! Well done on pugging the entire thing, it's not easy for a lot of players (myself included)! GG's

[@Wahligma]

@@Dillisan Hahaha, well even if it's already done I'm sure the editing process will likely be just as hard and regardless I plan to watch the entire journey :) I myself am still considering if I want to try to hit 2500 which y'know, emphasis on try, but 2000 is enough for me.

[@Dillisan]

@@Wahligma The editing process is not easy, probably the most challenging part yeah. Thanks for the support, I really appreciate it! I'll aim to get my +20's once the KSM challenge is complete (maybe even during, idk). You got this, get to it! :D

[@Karyzn]

Very well made! The voice over to recognize areas of improvement is a good idea! You also have a good voice for it lol

[@Dillisan]

Thank you! I've been told I have a good voice for years but I've always disagreed :D. Glad you enjoyed

[@jessejames106]

Nice video, looking forward to the series!

[@Dillisan]

Thanks, more coming very soon!

[@mikeey]

I really like this type of content on background, the editing was very cool too, keep up the good work

[@Dillisan]

Thank you, my editing and storytelling has come a long way. Glad you enjoyed!

[@Ruffachi]

I love these types of videos, please keep them coming! :D

[@Dillisan]

In the making!

[@Askfornate]

Just came back to the game, stumbled across this video. Looking forward to this series.

[@Dillisan]

Welcome back to the game Nathan, good time to be playing right now imo. Thank you for the support

[@mendilor1405]

Pugged it on 3 characters this expansion and 2 times im shadowlands. 1 on evoker heal. 2 on sub rogue. 3 on Disc priest. All within this season the biggest struggle keys overall were Azure Vault keys and TJS specifically on Disc Priest. Good luck with it tho!

[@Dillisan]

That's incredible, good job Mendilor! Props for the Disc Priest also, I'd very much dislike that challenge xD. Yeah AV is my most disliked Dungeon I think, but HOV can also be very unforgiving...

[@RegnWow]

The weakaura/addon you have to track the abilities bosses are gonna cast, what is it called? :D

[@Dillisan]

That would be this one: wago.io/iBrhQ4AfE

[@vh9129]

nice video , I'm a bit jelly on the amount of loot you are getting ,but happy for you

[@Dillisan]

This is nothing...just wait xDDD

[@Kitahand]

It begins! I never knew that about the rocket boosts, that’s hilarious 😂

[@Dillisan]

I just hope it doesn't happen in an M+...

[@simonkristiansen960]

@@Dillisan they can't fail in m+.

[@Dillisan]

@@simonkristiansen960 Oh thank fudge for that, would be hilarious! Thanks xD

[@ShotgunBAM]

what is the addon showing boss abilities and when they happen between your group icons and interrupt bars? thanks :)

[@Dillisan]

That's a WeakAura that pulls information from either DBM/BigWigs so you'll need one of those as well as WeakAuras itself. Here's that particular WA though: wago.io/W2P_0qN6I/12

[@MuttleyGames]

It's my first season doing M+ as i stopped playing in MoP/Wod to go play PVP on a private server for nearly 9 years. Currently 1975 rating and solo pugging and LFR on my retribution paladin 397ilvl. Higher keys are starting to feel more fun now that people know what they are doing.

[@Dillisan]

That's fantastic, great to hear! Nearly there, you got this :). What's it like trying to get into groups as a Ret Paladin? Or are you running your own keys?

[@MuttleyGames]

@@Dillisan I don't run my own keys and join random people. My gf never played WoW retail but wanted us to try playing with her friends who are long time players, otherwise i would have not gotten Dragonflight. We were very behind on gear as we had to level new characters. Didn't cut it for raiding with guild so we duo queued low keys +4-5 and friends helped us with M0. For 2 weeks spammed Shadowmoon 11-13 to get gear and fill vault. After +13 and breaking the 1800-1900 IO and ilvl 395 i started getting invited more. Before that i wouldn't be accepted to shadowmoon 11s by people 400 score below me and 7+ best clear while i had 13++. When not playing a meta class, queue for anything and just try to do your best. You usually do a bit less damage than other classes but i try to offheal, support and also focus cds and abilities on high priority mobs or boss phases so i can make it easier for others. I see a bit of a shift where Evoker healer and protection paladins are very good together and those have been some of my highest keys and smoothest experiences. Sorry for the long read :D

[@Dillisan]

@@MuttleyGames The beginning of your journey through M+ sounds rough, not even getting into 11's? Yikes. Glad to see the improvements though, KSM in no time! GG's (enjoyed the long read!)

[@SYMMBOLZ]

What add on is that at the beginning of the video when you’re fighting Granyth that you use that tells you when to interrupt? I want to tank and learn how to, just scared to since I don’t know when to interrupt 😢

[@Dillisan]

Oh, that's the SharedMedia_Causese addon paired with the Dungeon/Raid WeakAuras from Causese. It's suuuuper helpful for someone like me that can't track everything! In Dungeons/Raids it will tell you to spread, move out & in, interrupt and more. Highly recommend! :)

[@SYMMBOLZ]

@@Dillisan diffenitly checking this out now! thanks again for the help and awesome videos!

[@Dillisan]

@@SYMMBOLZ My pleasure mate, thank you for the awesome comment

[@NewHorizon39]

Great content and I’m excited to see how it goes. Sub earned

[@Dillisan]

Thank you, you won't be disappointed!

[@-Holst-]

Like ur UI, got almost everything explained, except the incoming ability tracker, its a weakaura you have to show the scrolling incoming abilities?

[@Dillisan]

I use a WeakAura called "PhoGuild - Raid Ability Timeline". It pulls information from either BigWigs/DBM. Not for everyone but I love it :)

[@darkwingduck2551]

how did you make your raid timeline black bar skinny like that?

[@Dillisan]

I use a WeakAura called "PhoGuild - Raid Ability Timeline". It pulls information from either BigWigs/DBM.

[@reggiiee7]

You inspired me to try other classes and not feel behind on gearing my main!!

[@Dillisan]

That's great, you got this! It's a game after all, just enjoy it :)

[@greyether777]

Very inspiring...keep 'em coming! :)

[@Dillisan]

Keep an eye out later today! ;)

[@FOX3114]

I tank pugged my way to KSM too bro. Once I hit it 2k, I swapped to DPS and just do runs worry free. We should have a different mount for pugging KSM

[@Dillisan]

Oh nice, how did it go for you? I have never Tanked at this level so it should be an entertaining (or painful) watch lol. DPS is certainly a less stressful life. Not sure about different mount but it's a darn shame it's only a ground mount...

[@ArcNeon]

Yeah just did it too. Was super fun!

[@Gorre022]

Tank - “okay guys, just before we start, I’m gonna pull like this… that cool with everyone? I’m open to suggestions” Dps - “just fucking go, Jesus fucking Christ dude” /key start /dps butt pulls on first pack and panic-pulls more /dps leaves the key immediately /dps spams tank with toxic verbal abuse Yeah pugging as a tank is great lol 😅

[@Dillisan]

@@Gorre022 Bruh, ALWAYS the Tanks fault. So many times this season where a DPS has butt pulled and they've been like "Mate, why did you pull so much?". Ugh xD

[@FOX3114]

@Gorre it's like you watched video of my runs... or sometimes /heals - good thing that dps left he sucked *Hps - 12k* *0 explosive dmg* *0 kicks* The Painful pugs are real.

[@DatoK19]

Man I enjoy videos like this! Could you do a list of your addons that your using? :)

[@Dillisan]

Thank you! A few people have asked about addons etc, I might have to make a video on that...I just changed the pinned comment, take a look for a full list! :)

[@ludekcortex]

I would like to see this challenge done on a DPS class. This is 4th youtuber whom popped in my recommendations with this kind of challenge, and 4th one going as a tank (third even as Blood) because "I have no experience as a tank / I never played DK" and so on. Sure, yet still doing this as a tank (or healer) is easy mode after you get used to tanking in general - you can more or less pick up the keys you need from others - there are plenty of keys missing the tank or healer. On a DPS class would be way more interesting to watch as then we could observe the decent into madness which is pugging own keys and/or trying to get someone in the group finder to invite you.

[@Dillisan]

Yeah I get that and totally agree for the most part, Tank/Healer roles are much easier getting into groups. You get into much higher keys because of this whereas a DPS would require more gear/score. Then you have what's considered "meta". Once the challenge is over I will be doing a poll for which class/role I play for Season 2, Ranged and Healer will be on the list as well as Melee, I'm open to anything. I won't do another Tank one back-to-back :).

[@A_B90_]

Managed to Pug KSM nearly every season on my DK as frost, so its doable :)..... but involves lots of pain lol

[@FABBYFLAME]

u choose blood dk and tank role to, this is gonne be exiting to watch ^^

[@Dillisan]

Try not to laugh at me too much LUL

[@FABBYFLAME]

@@Dillisan i love bloodk dk so ik im gonne enjoi ur vids alkot ^^ look forward to next one

[@Waities]

9/10 times pugging is a very terrible experience!? What is about to go down here lol

[@Dillisan]

Don't jinx it, I'm on a roll! :P

[@ghozter1]

I’ve reached 2930 io just by pugging this season. Can’t say it’s been easy, it’s been grindy as hell but the feeling of timing 22’s and now starting to get into 23’s is pretty nice :)

[@Dillisan]

Holy moly, you're smashing it man...nice one! Got all 20's yet? GG's :D

[@ghozter1]

@@Dillisan I've timed all 22's on Fort except AV I got that on 21. And for Tyrannical I got three 22's, by the end of the week hopefully all be done on 22 as well :D

[@Dillisan]

@@ghozter1 I'm rather jealous, that's massive! GG's man smashing it

[@ghozter1]

@@Dillisan tyty, all it really takes is just plenty of time really haha and ofc being a decent player. Looking forward to other vids :)

[@Dillisan]

@@ghozter1 Personally I struggle to remember everything so I tend to derp at times :D

[@Meatcrob1]

I’ve only ever pugged my whole life. Currently sitting at 2900 io. Definitely possible lol

[@Dillisan]

I'm obviously not at your skill level ;)

[@ritzon2670]

Im the exact opposite on the anxiety, I feel it more when im playing with people I dont know. which is why if im going to tank it typically has to be within a group of my friends.

[@Dillisan]

Funny how our brains are wired, right? I speak like pugs don't effect me, but they do. So this is a bigger challenge than I'm leading you guys to believe. But to those that don't understand our anxiety, they just think it's easy. I hope this is something you're able to overcome! Thank you for the comment

[@Rhukzy]

YOU ARE THIS MARK!

[@Dillisan]

Hahaha, I address this in the 2nd episode...SORRY!

[@Jonny19903]

great series. lucky loot :) question. is that a weak aura that is showing the boss ability timers in lfr?

[@Dillisan]

Yes it is and it's great! I can't get to my WA's right now but it's something like this one: wago.io/iBrhQ4AfE Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed

[@Jonny19903]

@@Dillisan thank you :)

[@SqueakLP]

Great video again

[@Dillisan]

Thank you Liam

[@SqueakLP]

@@Dillisan everytime i watch i want to make my warrior and try tanking for the first time!

[@Dillisan]

@@SqueakLP Love this, do it! Start small and work your way up. And if you're on EU, I run a Saturday Social live on Twitch where I run all types of keystones with the community, you're always welcome to tank for us, a safe group and no pressure :)

[@SqueakLP]

@@Dillisan I might just do that. Thanks mate

[@nickluty8102]

whats the weak aura or addon that shows your debuffs? im also a blood dk and this would be helpful

[@Dillisan]

Not sure which one you mean, I don't use anything for tracking debuffs other than what you see on the party frames or the default ones in the top right corner.

[@AaronSAllison]

"without any friends or any guilds" , just like me

[@Dillisan]

Aww man, if you're on EU and available Saturdays I run community keys! Open to anyone and everyone. I run them on my alts so they're usually low but you're welcome to join

[@myles5084]

whats your transmog set?

[@Dillisan]

It's the Heritage of the Warsong for Mag'har Orcs.

[@BrodyCanuck]

I pugged my way there, I find it easier since I can play according to when Im available rather than relying on others to be on as well

[@Dillisan]

Solid plan, pushing your own key is the biggest tip I can give to solo players also :)

[@wiskeeamazingdancer4964]

I just got KSM yesterday. Pugged all the way. Resto druid though.

[@Dillisan]

Congrats! Resto looks great this expansion :)

[@duncanwraight]

love these videos, very watchable. I haven't played WoW since before Mythic+ was a thing... and this video makes me want to get involved again do you have any recommendations for how I could basically start from scratch? my mechanics would be reasonable (used to raid regularly back in the day) if rusty, but my knowledge of the dungeons would be non-existent, nor would I have any idea how best to gear a character typically play healer->ranged dps->tank but I think I'd stick to ranged dps whilst learning the content

[@Dillisan]

I love seeing stuff like this! We all learn differently and at different paces, you could spam dungeons as a DPS to learn the mechanics, then switch role to see a different perspective? There are quite a few guides online, video format and also written. In terms of gearing, I don't cover the "best" way, what I've done in this series is basically what I felt like doing. I don't PvP but you can get some easy stuff from there. There's storms and I could have farmed more rares around Dragonflight to bump ilvl a little faster. You're also welcome to join me on my Saturday Socials where I run keys with viewers :) Hope this helps, thanks for watching

[@duncanwraight]

@@Dillisan thanks mate, appreciate the response. started levelling a female Dwarf Shaman last night on a brand new server... so we'll see how that goes! any other content creators you'd recommend for learning mythic+ content?

[@Dillisan]

@@duncanwraight Good luck with the Shaman! I would highly recommend checking out Quazii's 1 minute M+ guides, they are fantastic! kzbin.info/aero/PLYVPyI4uGDoB7K3TnuvKxXP85E6sv_P7P

[@duncanwraight]

@@Dillisan thanks pal. looking forward to more videos from you 🙂

[@papaknows22]

As someone who got KSM for the first time several days ago (also as BDK) it s quite... easy? I also only pugged. As an advice, dont waste too much time in the low brackets. I wanted to take it nice and slow to have gear to cover up my mistakes. Turns out it wasnt really needed. I realised this when i randomly got somehow into a 17 at 395 ilvl and it went smooth as butter, while i was scared to go beyond 14's at the time. I am now gearing a Brewmaster and i already take him into 14s and gearing up now that i got the confidence is so much faster.

[@Dillisan]

That's awesome Vlad, nice one! Quite easy for some, for others not so much. Many different skill brackets so there are some players that never achieve KSM. For me as a Tank, I consider myself "okay" but far from great, so this will be challenging for me at least :P

[@papaknows22]

@@Dillisan far from great as well, and also i am in the "old gamers league". What i meant to say is that i was sure it was gonna be a struggle but actually it isnt so maybe more people will try it. Good luck on your journey, will follow it up. Liked your vids!

[@Dillisan]

@@papaknows22 You obviously don't give yourself enough credit, I always put myself down :D. Thank you, means a lot

[@Stephano999]

bro whats the name of skills weakaura in middle of screen? i like how it highlights skills when they go off the cooldown

[@Dillisan]

Luxthos's WA's, they're amazing and he has all classes: wago.io/LuxthosDemonHunterDragonflight

[@Stephano999]

@@Dillisan cool tnx

[@LRKN]

I have been meaning to change my up for a bit now. Seriously about to just copy yours lol

[@Dillisan]

Go for it man, full list of addons in the pinned comment too if you wanna take a look at those :)

[@LRKN]

@@Dillisan what’s the weak aura (I’m assuming) for the boss cooldowns. Really like how this looks. I’m talking about the bar with icons in the middle of your party frames and interrupts

[@Dillisan]

@@LRKN PhoGuild - Raid Ability Timeline. It pulls information from either DBM/BigWigs. I love it, so much cleaner :)

[@richaado4789]

I've done keystone hero doing only pugs, just play from the start and it's easy

[@Dillisan]

I think I'll start with this KSM challenge and see how that goes first :D. It's on the list for future projects though! Grats on KSH, nice one :)

[@methsoup7160]

I love these kinds of videos.. Naesam from BDGG does the exact same thing :)! You've got a new viewer.

[@Dillisan]

Me too! Thank you so much, means the world. Oh nice, I need more people to watch :D

[@erikskytt1]

Lol. Nice video. I learned stuff.

[@Dillisan]

Thank you Sky! I thought you might, did you see your little cameo?

[@erikskytt1]

@@Dillisan didnt see. I looked But i never found it. Haha

[@Dillisan]

@@erikskytt1 Terrible. 11:15

[@nyhriax]

Im pretty sure you have it a lot easier as Tank to get from Zero to KSM then as a DPS because you get more invited far more often in Groups as Tank.

[@Dillisan]

Oh yeah ofc, but I didn't choose it because of this. Next season the viewers decide (send help!).

[@Light_910]

I did it as resto shaman, PUG life.... I stopped at 2005 (good year) It's not that bad once you get used to failure

[@Dillisan]

Yeah but for some, that's easier said than done :(. Congrats on your KSM!

[@nicimi]

id love the healer mana Weakaura. Could you link?

[@Dillisan]

There are loads of different ones on wago.io but this is the one I prefer: wago.io/S22ZNkOIk

[@jarrettkplett]

Can go to AH and buy a full set of 340 for around 10k gold. I do this on all my alts when they get max level.

[@Dillisan]

Very true but that would be cheating :P. I set some rules, I knew I could do this but chose not to. Plus I needed the practice hehe

[@jarrettkplett]

@@Dillisan Honourable. Im lazy 🤣

[@Dillisan]

@@jarrettkplett Oh don't worry, I'll be doing the same on non-challenge characters lol

[@doktorduggieducker9615]

what? Is this a reupload, or did i watch the exact same video somewhere else? Even the Blooddk thing is similar

[@Dillisan]

Ha, that's weird! Nope, only uploaded to this channel. Though I am intrigued, now I'm gonna search for this other series :D

[@holydemon16]

Just found this Channel awesome content

[@Dillisan]

Thanks Patric, glad you enjoy the content

[@holydemon16]

@@Dillisan was thinkin too do the same so playing prot paladin atm 390 ilvl and 1405 score

[@Dillisan]

@@holydemon16 Totally doable man, you got this! I believe :)

[@EscGAZm]

what the heck!

[@Dillisan]

Ha, been trying to sneak that one in for a while 😂

[@heavygaming97]

I played to keystone hero only with random groups :D

[@Dillisan]

Grats, never achieved KSH :

[@michellenjamesblake1619]

"Find it hard to ask guild members". Dude this is so me. I have no idea, almost feel like I am asking for charity when I ask guildies to do Keys. Find it far easier to just jump on group finder and find a pug. A friend in guild asked me the other day why I pug so much and I could explain why I feel uncomfortable asking in guild.

[@Dillisan]

Well you're not alone, there are a lot of us out there! I even get it with pugs, don't get me wrong. But I would much rather let a pug down than my friends :D.

[@michellenjamesblake1619]

@@Dillisan Man that is such a big part of it. I sometimes see guild mates listing keys on dungeon finder that I would be keen to do, but I don't ask them because I don't want to damage their rep. These are people doing 20+ level keys.

[@celestielsigh]

Do you spend much time socializing with your guild? I used to be anxious about this as well but started actually hanging out with my guildies, just chatting watching shows and other things outside of wow. Now they have become more like friends to me so much easier to hop into keys with them. Also if you are at a 13 key level, don't ask the people doing 20s unless they specifically stated they will help. Try the other people in the 13-15 range and you'll feel much less pressure to perform.

[@Dillisan]

@@celestielsigh I'm really new to the guild and find it hard, but I'm getting there. Baby steps. I'm friends with one of the officers in the Guild and have known them since Wrath, so I'm fine with them even though I still won't ask him to do keys lol. My main is fine with 20's, I have the gear, my alts are nowhere near though. I'll get there! :)

[@michellenjamesblake1619]

@@celestielsigh I socialize with the guild a lot. It's not really an issue of being uncomfortable. I was just always raised to not ask for help so it feels weird. Been doing it a bit more lately. I do keys up around the 20 range myself. I just normally pug them. Thanks for the advice.

[@Stevo9999]

Brilliant

[@bjoernpunkt]

Nice one. You can do it. Oh and btw. which Addon is it at 12:30min ?

[@Dillisan]

Thanks, gonna smash it! The addon is called Narcissus, I think it looks great :)

[@aedraxis3011]

I have a 2800 rating atm with pugging only. You just need time ;)

[@Dillisan]

And a bigger brain than mine! Well done on the rating, impressive! :)

[@TheBlueberryEffect]

Just letting everyone know these drops are extremely rare for them to happen to you like this. Guy is very lucky

[@Dillisan]

Yup...and that's not the end of it xD

[@DannTeBg]

In a single raid you've acquired 2x more gear than i've acquired in 6 xD

[@Dillisan]

My alts get everything, my main suffers...if you want more disappointment, go check out my weekly reset #6 video. I very much hate my Monk right now...

[@LinkSmith-zb7rr]

2000 rating is very very easy with just pugs so long as you are not a bad player yourself. Just use your own key

[@Dillisan]

Use your own key, that is my favourite bit of advice for pushing keys. Easy for some but a lot of player struggle with KSM. Thanks for your comment :)

[@Monsux]

I managed to hit 2400 before quitting the game. All the runs with pug groups as fury warrior. This was semi easy to get with average skill level. Would have played more but affixes/dungeon balance felt opposite of fun so lost interest.

[@Dillisan]

@@Monsux Smashed it, nice one! I'm probably not at your skill level so it's more of a challenge for me :P

[@Monsux]

@@Dillisan I would say that the skill level grows while doing M+ content. Once you have done one dungeon at +12, then 13, 14, 15, 16. The more you do it, the better you become at clearing that same dungeon. Always try to learn new tips from other players and videos. My biggest tip was a custom plater profile that highlighted mobs you need to kick and what you can stun. It made everything so much easier. I also told super simple tactics to minimize the risk of failure. Most pug groups fail for simple things, so it's massive if you can avoid those.

[@daviddudas5392]

2000 RaTing iS vERy vErY eaSY wItH juST pUG

[@TulgaTDev]

wait it is a challenge? i do this every season. i have no friends

[@Dillisan]

Haha, best comment yet! I do low keys on my alts every Saturday with the community, you're welcome to tag along if you're on EU

[@FABBYFLAME]

the league player in me read that diff altough ik what u mean XD

[@Dillisan]

Oh no, not League :D

[@ThurstanTV]

Doing the same thing but on a disc priest lol.

[@Dillisan]

You are my hero, I would HATE that lol

[@TheScovin720]

is this really a challenge? ive gotten AOTC and KSM for multiple expansions every patch through pugs.

[@Dillisan]

For you? No. For others, yes.

[@bladewalters9967]

If you are careful with your groups ksm is soo easy to do in pugs. Biw when we're talking like 18+ then it get significantly harder

[@Dillisan]

Oh yeah for sure, 18's are a different story. I've only done a few 18's on my main but I'm not really pushing tbf. I would like all at 20 this season though, that's the goal for me personally.

[@reallyrealify]

count me in

[@Kryoo]

ive done 2,5k only with pugs, so no probs on EU servers looks like

[@Dillisan]

I think I'll stop with this guy at 2k, who knows :D

[@pabailon8799]

✊

[@Dillisan]

🤛

[@Dark_Tesla]

KSH is the hard part

[@Dillisan]

Perhaps a future challenge! :)

[@Dark_Tesla]

@@Dillisan Godspeed

[@allforgold]

I've gotten ksm every season since legion... by only pugging... I have however noticed there's two types of people pugging. Ones who are toxic, and ones who just don't know (yes, some people are good amd no the key, but do not count on this) I don't bother w the toxic people, ill just kick them and drop my key. Most of the time if a key is going bad by the first boss ill take the 10 minutes to link disc and TEACH people so we can time and push if they are willing to learn. Has been a great success, and have had multiple people end up creating their own guilds/groups and also continuing the process. Overall 72 bnet friends have held ksm all from just learning and teaching others. Don't be toxic, and teach for the pugs :)

[@Dillisan]

That was a nice read, I'm glad to know there are actually some nice players within the community, keep this up! I have met some nice players from random groups but there are far more toxic players from my personal experience. Be more like Thorne

[@yassimchenard243]

Getting ksm is way easier in DF Not saying it was hard during sl but atleast u need to to do 15ish instead of only 13😅

[@Dillisan]

Can it really be achieved from 13's? Dayum. It is scaled up to 20 now I guess so who knows

[@yassimchenard243]

@@Dillisan someone in my guild got ksm with only timed/untimed +13 on all dungeon for both tyran/ fortified so yeah its possible. I got my ksm on my second +15 on week 2 of the season. Imo this season is fcking weird should be like before

[@Dillisan]

@@yassimchenard243 Well that's good to know, thanks for the info! Yeah it's a bit of a weird one but I'm thoroughly enjoying my time in DF, not the biggest fan of AV/HOV though..

[@Andreas16375]

Same thing with keystone hero. I’m 100 points above 2500 and i’ve just done 4 20s on fort. Rest 17-19 and on tyran most of my keys are 16-18. For 2500 you probably just need all 17-18s

[@iiNuance]

Every pug i get whether a raid or mythic. Always ends the same they leave or remove people and dont get anywhere. No friends life

[@Dillisan]

That sucks dude, horrible luck. I run keys on stream with viewers every Saturday, usually around the +10 level. You are welcome to join for a key, open to everyone, don't care about skill level or anything, all welcome

[@iiNuance]

@@Dillisan cool I’ll definitely tune in I have 4 70s and they all need gearing :3, loved the video btw waiting on pt 2.

[@Dillisan]

@@iiNuance Tonight, just don't tell anyone! 🤫

[@lucassrosso]

short answer: KSM is easy, so yeah you can

[@Dillisan]

For some, sure. Not for everyone though.

[@lucassrosso]

@@Dillisan I believe in you

[@beylac4296]

I only play in pug groups, and i have 2170 io!

[@Dillisan]

Well done! What were you playing during this? Some players find it easy, I don't D:

[@beylac4296]

@@Dillisan veng dh, i'm loving it. Want to reach 2.5 for the cosmetic item

[@Dillisan]

@@beylac4296 Oh nice one man, I main Havoc though I can't seem to get on with VDH this season for some reason.

[@beylac4296]

@@Dillisan because si not meta. Other tanks are better and easier to tank higuera keys

[@kamilpengiel1317]

Not a challenge to do it as a tank, even bear. Get to 2500 rating as an Ele shaman, disco priest or sv hunter.

[@Dillisan]

Not for you maybe, for others it can be. For the next challenge I will be playing whatever is voted for when this challenge has ended, so anything other than Tanks are on the cards.

[@CryptoCloudTV]

2.9k rating only with randoms

[@Dillisan]

Damn dude, that's sick! Well done :D

[@CryptoCloudTV]

@@Dillisan thank sir so dont give up your head just might explode at some point xD

[@MrTincify]

Go for KSH

[@Dillisan]

That's on the cards for a future challenge but I've never gone for it tbh so no idea if I'm capable 😅

[@sekurmsekurm7343]

just pugged it. pretty easy

[@Dillisan]

Congrats!

[@FREdmaN1o7]

I got ksm 2nd week with pugging as disc, and i still only pug and im at 2450 now

[@Dillisan]

Disc? Nice one! A spec I have always struggled to get my head around, I bloody hope this doesn't get voted in as the next challenge lol. GG's

[@FREdmaN1o7]

@@Dillisan I think the hardest part of disc is getting into groups because alot of players dont play around the spec

[@Dillisan]

@@FREdmaN1o7 Yeah..."you're not meta, no thanks!". I hate this but sadly it's a massive factor.

[@FREdmaN1o7]

@@Dillisan Yeah but disc is actually really good now after the changes and i get into groups way easier

[@Dillisan]

@@FREdmaN1o7 I'll get round to trying it again at some point, maybe next season :D

[@Lewielewie1]

You are describing how 99% of the player base get this Achi. Doing it with guilds/friends seems pretty rare these days

[@AphlexOCE]

ive gotten 2800io with pugs

[@Dillisan]

You're a beast! Grats :)

[@Priestitude]

You just need to complete all at +13…. Is it hard?

[@Dillisan]

For a lot of players, yeah. For myself playing as a Tank, probably :D

[@Kitahand]

Oof, getting called out here D: I've never done KSM myself, I love these series xD

[@waterbottle5367]

pugging KSM with tank or healer is fine. but doing with a dps? its twice as hard to push just because there is so much competition. its even MORE hard if u are playing a dps spec that no one gives a fuck about.

[@Dillisan]

Yeah you need a lot of patience when signing up to keys with a dps. Pushing your own key (for the most part) is the way to go.

[@mikelovesnature5476]

i get KSM every season this way.. lol..

[@Dillisan]

Every season?! You're a better player than I am then, I need my carries :D

[@mikelovesnature5476]

@@Dillisan on a hunter too, in all fairness i havent done it every season but when i do play a season thats how i do it, i pug everything, rated pvp, raids, myth+ all of it.

[@Dillisan]

@@mikelovesnature5476 Hats off to you man, gg's! It looks like I'll be doing this challenge every season so perhaps we try Hunter at some point...but there will be a poll for class/role so I'm hoping for something I can play lol (please no casters/healers)

[@Ancoice]

if i could do it annyone can

[@Dillisan]

That's usually my thinking when I achieve something :D

[@discmania5677]

lol I will not supply gold to him. Just 20-30k

[@Dillisan]

I mean, I had no idea how to format the challenge tbh lol. I didn't actually send any gold as of yet, probably won't either. All gold has been earned from that character :D

[@coreybrooks2105]

"Playing the game like a majority of the population" challenge

[@bloodroz]

Try this as a melee dps while not tanking...

[@Dillisan]

Season 2? Hmm

[@bloodroz]

@@Dillisan Would be dope. I'd sub. I just know I have had to apply to about 40 keys before i ever get into a group. Even now at 405 ilvl and 2300 i have to apply to about 20-30 +16 keys before i get an invite. And somehow running my own key was almost always a hot mess. Seems that the tanks who were doing like you did, but bad at it, always land in your key and it gets scuffed.

[@Dillisan]

@@bloodroz You mean, you've not yet subbed? Sadge...jokes aside, once I have completed this challenge, I will start preparation for Season 2 where I will post a poll to determine what I play, completely out of my hands. So if that's something you're interested in taking part in feel free to stick around for that! :)

[@fsgajdfgasdfasdf230]

KSM isn’t hard- try to KSH

[@Dillisan]

Not for everyone! KSH is on the list as a potential future project :)

[@iddqd7162]

lol ezzz mode, do this as an dd with randoms. tanks will leave after 2-3 wipes.

[@Dillisan]

Some don't even stay that long lol

[@iddqd7162]

@@Dillisan true lol 🤣

[@markepperson8482]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[@Dillisan]

Glad you enjoyed 🤗

[@donhunter2608]

Too bad yummy did this already in Shadowlands

[@Dillisan]

Why is it too bad? Loads of content creators do this challenge every single season. It's fun :)