Pumpchkin | MSP Iceberg

[@pluto-kl5od]

pumpchkin is literally like an internet cryptid at this point. she ruled & reigned over MSP FOR YEARS, had all this control, then mysteriously disappeared without saying a word? the only info we have on her is hearsay…. like i don’t play MSP anymore but it’s like i do annual checkups to see if any new info came out on her 😭

[@pluto-kl5od]

to add, going back to pump’s YT, some of her videos did make her age questionable… like as in an adult tryna come off as a teenage girl 😭

[@octavia999_]

i agree w the youtube thing as well@@pluto-kl5od

[@lil_butterfly111]

when i was like 12 i remember trying to guess her password for so long just to find out it was angel123?? i'm so mad

[@octavia999_]

real

[@corinneee-dl5sr]

right i feel like i def could’ve guessed that wtf

[@alexisnicoleheredia]

wait fr?? how did you find out that was her password?😭

[@zoey935]

literally n i wasnt even on the us server

[@jazluminaryjazzy]

I love how MSP lore is coming back in 2024 LIVING 4 IT Ive seen more older players arise as im leaving from being on here since 2012 LOL great timing

[@Ipromiseyounobodyismad]

Barely..

[@Ipromiseyounobodyismad]

Plus this was made in 2023

[@adri2584]

@@Ipromiseyounobodyismadit’s been 2 weeks u actin like it’s been 4 years 😂😂 tiktok is going crazy w this pumpchiken thing

[@cryptidjanedoe]

BLACK KNIGHT777 CAME BACK

[@jadegroman9832]

I started in 2012 and just came back bc I heard msp was getting popular again

[@Shayekindle]

Big MSP fan here. Been here since the OG days and until now. I stopped playing for a few years and then started playing again not to long ago. It makes sense that they were adults at the time when the game started because they were able to afford as much vip and diamond packages they wanted to be able to get such high fame cause practically everyone else was a kid - including me at the time the game was created and when she was famous and no way in hell our parents would pay that much for a game lol

[@GamingProjectMSP]

I've always been out of the loop in the MSP community, this is the deep dive I've been needing

[@jazluminaryjazzy]

LOL hans what are you doing here HI

[@GamingProjectMSP]

@@jazluminaryjazzy I’m still active on MSP, what are YOU doing here. HI

[@hermesprincess]

omg same

[@SuicideShow]

SAMEEEE

[@michael-pg8fi]

msp vid getting 18k views in 2024 is crazy

[@octavia999_]

ikr idk how this even happened but im so thankful

[@vomxxitmsp]

imagine her irl just saying "yeah i was pumpchkin on msp!!"

[@prettysavage]

I'm still trying to wrap my brain around all this, this is INSANE. Back when I was most active in 2014-16' on MSP there was so much mystery to pump. She had so much power and influence it was scary. I hope Riley is doing better now. Imagine meeting up with your groomer and abuser in a chipotle and multiple times after that thinking it was casual and normal?

[@SingingCicadas]

I was also active on MSP around that time as a teenager and remember Pumchkin.

[@literallynobody9284]

this is insane but im glad to finally have a full story rather than just rumors

[@SableBonn]

It’s honestly disgusting that she ever did any of that, I remember being friends with her for like a day until she unadded me and i was so mad cause I didn’t do anything wrong but now I’m glad she did.

[@neexapixa]

im 20 and i love playing this game

[@zairahernandez9778]

RIGHT!!

[@greenthinggg]

19 here and yeah some are actually older than me lol it seems like most of us just go back for nostalgia purposes

[@JuliaRosiexo]

I remember when I wanted to be like pumpchkin so badly I made a whole team called Titaniums and tried to have team leaders and it backfired, almost every single one betrayed me 😭

[@octavia999_]

omg i remember titaniums!! msp teams never go very well lol

[@JuliaRosiexo]

@@octavia999_yeah after a decade of trying to become pumpchkin famous, I’m super thankful I’ve never achieved that type of fame, and only a partial part of the community knew who Tiffany was

[@corinneee-dl5sr]

msp was genuinely SO wild i wish more people knew about some of the stuff that went down😭😭

[@CozyBunni]

WAIT I REMEMBER UU@@JuliaRosiexo

[@restlessratt]

i remember getting groomed on this game as a very young child and now i watch sinjin drowning troll on msp 😭😭😭

[@greenthinggg]

STOP ME TOO 😭 both groomed and sinjin 💀 it's been years now and I've healed but man was msp the wild west back in the day

[@katie.met1]

@@greenthingggso were we all victims of being invited to someone’s house and being told to perform the jumping animation? 😭 (Fr tho the stuff that would go down on that game was so unsafe for kids and I’m glad you’re healed from it now

[@esmeralda6293]

@@katie.met1YESSS LMAO, i’m getting flashbacks from going to people’s houses oh god 😭😭 also love the type o pfp😏

[@idkwhat2makethis]

god… i idolized her when i was younger. im 18 now and this gives me the chills

[@yagirlmya8794]

wow im 19 now and msp was my CHILDHOOD i loved pump.. insane and sad

[@issabrat2]

Does anyone remember staciecakums? She was #1 on the highscore in 2011 before Pump. Around that time her bf M9yne exposed her for being an adult. She quit right after he exposed her

[@issabrat2]

OMG I FOUND HER OLD TWITTER AND EVERYTHING ADDS UP! Stacie mentioned how many ppl suspected Pump was controlling all these accounts and she been caught lying bout her age many times! All those tweets was from 2013! 😭

[@issabrat2]

Btw Vivi was technically a real person. Pump created the account but the person that was controlling it was someone that pump met on IMVU

[@issabrat2]

Joanna and Kylie were real too. However the real Kylie quit I believe 2016ish? and pump later took over her account. Idk much bout Cutestuff. She remains a mystery to me but I wouldnt doubt pump made her too ironically her popularity began in 2012 when Donnie C took on a dare from pump to accept the first girlfriend request he received and it happened to be cutestuff

[@issabrat2]

Ik Im writing a lot but I was there during real time. Before they joined twitter, a lot of the highscorers used tinychat (I feel so old saying it 😭) to communicate outside of msp

[@jackielove5519]

Absolutely remember staciecakums it was wild back in the day. I remember her and jojo quit randomly after m9yne drama happened and never figured out if stacie came back but she was sweet. Ohhltzautumn too she was the highscorer in 2011 when i started playing

[@nooorawr]

omg girl I used to autograph you every day and you’d always say thanks which made my day as a kid 😭

[@keo5496]

I dont know why but this is so funny to me😭😭😭

[@RebaMcImTired]

I literally knew nothing about this MSP drama, but now I’m weirdly invested in it. I had a feeling a lot of her “friends” were just sock puppet accounts.

[@puppiimcrp]

I used to play MSP back in the prime TP & Mybeau era and I wanted to be noticed/be friends with Pump so badly. Thankfully it never happened. Watching this was super insightful even though I knew most of the info in this video. I feel so bad for Riley and I hope they're doing ok now.

[@LunaRoseMsp]

I think about it all the time but pump could literally still play under a different alias and no one would even know..😮

[@TdemonslayerT]

there is a lot of child groomers on roblox when i was 12 people talked to me about sex which i had no clue about, i was confused but "they" offered me vip ticket to keep talking to them, they asked me a lot of personal questions and soon my older sister saw what they were asking and immediately banned me from playing it, i was mad at her at the time but looking back it was for the better, hopefully this happens less now but overall great video!

[@neiltenet]

omfg… i’ve been playing on and off since like 2013/2014 and icb this is my first time hearing abt these allegations !! and also yeah thinking back the pump/mybeau stuff was soooo culty like omg 😭

[@dusksubs]

i swear this woman impacted a generation omg

[@jazluminaryjazzy]

pump also did alot and gave away alot of info on IMVU that ties in with Vivi G

[@hollielouisejupp5234]

Please do a video on ishacool, she was the uk version of pump and based on the event they’re even more similar. Isha was the top player in the uk who had everyone in a choke hold just like pump, but it also turned out she was older and grooming/emotionally abusing kids on the game, she was exposed by another high scorer (franisepic) but the truth is not spread out! Please see what you can find about this to share the amount this happened on this game in every country:(

[@octavia999_]

i will def look into it

[@wooooo0oo]

damn i been outta the msp loop for so long, this is crazy to me

[@marisolet]

i remember ishacool, i'm appalled.

[@rrai5652]

Fran is the one that is/was friends and did videos with izzywizzywooxox (I think that's how it's spelt) right?

[@n1ghtflight]

i never played on the uk server honestly, mainly just cause it was kind of dead compared to the us one, i do remember the username ishacool but i had no idea about any of this

[@user-weeidon]

bruhh finaly this is a thing WHO REMEMBERS TERRIGANG AND CLOWN DOLL PERSON

[@doodaroni29]

I was young during the times when msp peaked but I’m now getting into the game and I’m just finding out about all of this now..I hope all the victims are doing better

[@ozfoz8336]

one thing i’m confused abt is how pump and riley met up irl but riley didn’t know pump was an adult? did pump downage herself ? i’m assuming she couldn’t pass as a teenager so what did she tell riley to make her think she was similarly in age?

[@kawaiirevolver]

i think it’s bc she was groomed at such a young age she probably ignored how much older she looked bc she was so “in love” with pump. maybe pump said she was in her 20s instead of her 30s and riley didn’t question it. pump had to have been at least 18 to even book a motel or buy alcohol.

[@Chloe4656.]

​@@kawaiirevolver It still doesn't excuse what she did.

[@kawaiirevolver]

@@Chloe4656. reading comprehension is very important. i never said it excused “what she did.”

[@ivyslotus]

@@kawaiirevolverthats so scary omfg..

[@vLanita]

7:04 I havent watched fully now, so i dont know if u mentioned, but her password was changed into angel123 by darkk and jasper. She didnt originally have that password, they changed it using a program, not even needing her actual one. But also, great video :D i love learning the history and stuff of msp so this was very interesting!

[@megenlindsey9112]

gosh i remember this like it was yesterday. it’s crazy.

[@poIarnight]

this video popped up in my recommended and i had to give it a watch because 1. im nosey and 2. i was an avid msp player in 2011/2012 who was obsessed with pump for some reason… i truly had no idea everything about pump and her little clique ran this deep and it honestly makes me sick to my stomach cause ive never heard of any of this at all… it’s honestly crazy to me

[@mediverge]

msp player to army pipeline so #real

[@SingingCicadas]

I used to play MSP during 2014-2017 period so from about 13 years old to 16 years old, and always assumed the reason Pumpchkin could afford so much VIP stuff was because her parents were well off. Can’t believe in real life she was a whole grown ass adult and a creep to top it off. I swear so many of us got preyed upon on that game as kids / young teenagers. So glad MSP is no longer as popular as it used to be.

[@AdrianaArrrrr]

I met Danni first in 2017 when i stopped playing in the French server, we became friends until i told him multiple times I was not interested, he tried to dm my ex to get photos of me. At first I didn’t know he was 30+. And then I met pump 1 yr l8ter when I was 16, the fact that I was talking to danni before didn’t bother her at all. She eventually was super supportive when I told her about what he did to me. After a while we became super close and she eventually forced me to do stuff on video calls, and touch myself on the phone, she literally threatened me.

[@frankiewatchesthings]

God this is so nostalgic. I just got back into MSP after years it feels great

[@emilykohler5644]

I just want yall to know that msp was originally made for adults, animations with cigarettes and inappropriate stuff were in shops but they saw children making accounts and didn’t want any problems with parents then made money off it

[@sunshine-iy7bx]

i was there during the donnie c situation, basically what happened was he allegedly engaged in ERP chats with a minor on twitter. Blorange was the one who brought attention to it and linked the proof on twitter, idk if the tweets exist anymore but that’s basically what happened. i don’t think he acknowledged or talked about the allegations at all, and everyone spammed his gb for it.

[@sunshine-iy7bx]

this also happened in 2019 btw

[@kawaiirevolver]

wait so donnie was still playing in 2019??

[@sunshine-iy7bx]

@@kawaiirevolver yeah he eventually quit shortly after that

[@pluto-kl5od]

i remember this situation, the victim's user was @skinnypetite n i remember his guestbook was being spammed with "basketball shorts" .

[@tabbykat8564]

OMG. i remember being obsesseddd with pumpchkin when i was like 8 or 9 and desperately wanting to be part of her friend group.

[@catherinegalvin8873]

She probably never quit, she probably got arrested !

[@ghostvibesss]

God this brought back a lot lmao. I miss playing that game every day, I remember I used to be friends with you but I had so many diff accs 😭

[@Bozeki]

Gosh i miss 2012 msp i would honestly do anything to go back i wish msp came back 💔 please someone build a time machine 💔

[@1veee]

thank you finally someone did an actual video on this cause I remember being confused of the whole thing

[@sennchaan]

i used to be friends with cutestuff and she was the sweetest person ever, she used to be friends w pumpchkin too- i still have my chat logs with her LOL

[@pandorabi]

i just started back playing and this is INTERESTING

[@flavoredtears3898]

Glad movie star planet is making a comeback in 2024. But the part where you said fully grown adults like age 30 were playing in 2016 really scared me for some reason, because I was 11 or so, thankfully most of the MSP community now (2024) is the older generation of the actual old community 17-23 and not freaking 30+ bc what the heck

[@vivianxmsp]

agh i love these documentary type videos on MSP

[@Mimella]

i remember when the drama was on msp twitter it was crazyyy

[@alessisswag8551]

I remember trying so hard to figure this out when I was like 8 I appreciate you for doing this research and explaining it all

[@ci310]

i was one of those 2011 msp users and my god... thank goodness i wasnt into pump like that. the majority of its users were just (pre)teens so to have this freaking lady doing this shit is disturbing af. even in the early days you can tell how "mature" she was just by the quality of her looks and stuff.

[@RockstarGacha69]

I remember when I used to actively play Msp from 2013-2021. But I left cause of my age and personal reasons. I was 11/12 back in 2013, I left in 2021 when I turned 20 cause I received a lot of hate for my age. I feel disgusted that I looked up to Pump when I was 12-14.

[@frosk5119]

This was a good video

[@octavia999_]

im breaking it up into smaller videos because if i didn't it would've been hours long lol

[@Mimella]

can you make more of these documentary videos they’re so interesting!!

[@octavia999_]

i plan on it!

[@Mimella]

@@octavia999_ yesss

[@savbun9025]

came back 2 msp and im so happy that there are still people making content for the game!!

[@VinMSP]

You're so well spoken!! great video 💕

[@jazluminaryjazzy]

VINNNN my love!!!! Im just about to press play wish me well HAPPY NEW YEARS

[@blonbed]

i remember wanting to be friends with her soo baddd and i would make clubs/teams to be like her and her friends😭

[@saarofthevalley8943]

Damn MSP lore goes crazy

[@sheatemyheartt]

as a new MSP player, I love this video, it's so interesting! I would love more videos like this! And I feel so bad for that person, that's horrible that something like that can happen from a game like MSP.

[@melonelon.]

msp lore is insane

[@RxePlaysMsp]

This is well written out and well spoken

[@badlilthang2]

i remember this ooomg MSP conspiracies made a pretty decent vid about this as well

[@octavia999_]

yes i absolutely recommend their vid! thats where a lot of my information came from along with me digging further into what they said!

[@ohhoney777]

Honestly I’m glad I never idolized pumpchkin when I was a kid. As cliché as it sounds I was kinda her hater and she even blocked me on msp which makes me proud 😂

[@Fakepilldemon]

Predators are scary like her obv but the parental neglect is scary.

[@neptunejjong]

im not from the us server so i had no idea this happened. it's heartbreaking and must be so damaging to one's mental health. we also have a pretty old top player in my server so im side eyeing everything real hard rn

[@Ed3_n]

I made my acc at 11 and I use to to say I was 14&16. Whenever I saw a super high level player I felt some type of way about it because if I asked my parents for something of that price they would wanna check it out and some of the stuff that was said and that I said was embarrassing. But the amount of time I put into one person on that game they told me literally 4 years of randomly reconnecting and talking they told me they were a girl and I was absolutely shook we never talked again after that

[@Fellizz01]

I’m from the Swedish MSP and this is so sick like wtf !!

[@liluzivertsblunt6413]

I remember thinking all those accounts were her ngl cuz I did the same but I was also a little kid

[@PetrolLover808]

Interesting deep dive!!! Would love to see more of this in a series or something like that!! Subbed ❤️❤️

[@unbotheredsis1934]

msp was never my tea but the hackers especially anonymous, dolly etc, and pumpchkin, they always amazed me. interesting 🤔

[@katie.met1]

10 year old me was so immersed in the hacker lore 😭 the whole thing with dolly dancing on your screen or music would play if anonymous was hacking you, I was so scared 💀💀

[@unbotheredsis1934]

@@katie.met1 wow so that’s actually true? 😭 i never got hacked… if im correct. but sometimes i saw them.

[@cheeseball31]

OMG TYSM FOR MAKING THIS I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR AN MSP ICEBERG VIDEO

[@loveler]

I still think about pumpchkin, I just saw a TikTok about her on my fyp ( love ya Octavia! It’s jennormal)

[@niaram]

i had no idea about all of this, that's crazy

[@sophGxmes]

The fact that she was possibly impersonating the entire dream team is actually really creepy.

[@silversun667]

Deep down I felt like they were all too perfect to be different people. She wasn’t too good at making users different

[@arlinm7750]

Does anyone remember how cutestuff got picked to be apart of their crew? Like it was a random fan and they gifted her stuff ?? I wonder if that was real lol

[@issabrat2]

Has to be fake. Pump probably created her account

[@1h8ince1s]

She was my friend multiple times and messaged me a couple of times I felt so special

[@voidedmsp]

i was friends w the girl who hacked her account.. She was livestreaming it in an msp creators server!

[@corinneee-dl5sr]

looking back on it, those leader pages are obviously fake, but we were kids LMFAO

[@MoyaBrennan6825]

In the danish server it was simone1 234 that was the IT girl. She was the pumpchkin of danish servers. Also: msp was made in Denmark

[@OneLastCombo]

This is really funny I haven’t played movie star planet in so long only thing I know about the top players is when I had a secret relationship with mybeau she kinda told me allot of the drama but this was like 2020

[@Alicorn_Magic]

I remember as a kid I found her KZbin and I was a huge fan of her. I can’t believe she did all this horrible stuff.

[@Aesthxeal]

Im from Polish server and i knew her from her KZbin channel

[@bloodypadeater]

all u bitvhes better start login on RIGHT NEOW

[@luvleyluvsu]

Goddd I missed the msp community

[@ShineyKinz]

soo ive been gone for a min (5 years) and i see this craziness o.o from: ♥my demons♥︎

[@MegantheestallionLover04]

Imma cry my old account that i just logged back onto and gave vip to is named after her lol

[@fabiola_lala]

i was looking at a forum asking how old we are because it's 2024 and the people playing are mainly the ones who played it growing up so we were all curious and the ages ranged from 17-25ish but there was someone that commented 41 and i was shocked because WHAT DO YOU MEAN

[@octavia999_]

praying they were trolling

[@honks9484]

I played msp growing up and I’m 23 now still going on there from time to time for nostalgia, but 41???😭💀

[@sparkle6772]

omg i remember when this happened! this was a good catch up !!!

[@fdissz8664]

I haven’t played in YEARS are old accounts that were made in 2011-2012 even still active or are they deleted 9 times outta 10

[@shamblingabby]

As long as adults in their 30's aren't interacting with minors they're allowed to play a dress up game

[@saber-bb2yh]

if that one account was really "french canadian" she wouldve said she's québécois 😭😭 most french-canadians i meet say theyre that and not french canadian i mean they are gut ykwimm

[@strawberryguava]

This video is amazing!

[@tabbiez.]

Wow. I cannot believe This.

[@inezaa]

Sksks you said there aren’t much poc high scorers - which is true , but pump is black lol. Should’ve included ioanna petys blog expose she wrote years ago

[@lulurecord]

I absolutely LOVE videos like these

[@Bmobeano]

Not me doing my nails watching this tea wtfff

[@megankassa3633]

i remember looking up pumpchkin once and seeing she got arrested n shi 😭

[@octavia999_]

SAME!

[@Boonies]

I don’t care what anybody says… pumpchkin was an icon and was truly ahead of her time, like she made msp what it was, the fashion, teams, movies, clubs even twitter msp accounts happening thanks to her, but with all the bad and negative things she’s done I hope she’s locked up

[@marisol_vs]

very good video, thank you!

[@sashaversteeg3406]

thank u for this u did a good job explaining everything

[@courtneyedits2620]

my biggest flex was that i was friends with her

[@angiecastro9463]

Oh girl… i used to be TP never again 😂 thank god i left MSP

[@miagracee07]

this is such a well spoken video more interesting than all the others ive seen you’ve gained a new sub!!