Pune To Hyderabad In Citroen EC3 EV - Shocking Range Compare To Tata - Noise Faktory

[@kiranreddy7864]

I own eC3. The Battery overheating and dc charging problem caused by the lack of active cooling is a major issue

[@duopedallers7381]

Yeah, u r right. I bought ec3 1month ago. Faced same issue with dc fast charger. But comfort & range wise it's too good ❤

[@Prasoon_ingle]

How much did u guys get ur cars for? On road prices.

[@duopedallers7381]

​@@Prasoon_ingle it cost me 13.86L on road kolkata

[@SunnyParkar1901]

@@duopedallers7381what is the range of car ?

[@arunkumarbisoi]

Range kitna aa raha hai

[@apoorvagupta4955]

A Good Review. Now I can also make it with my Tigor EV, I m pretty much sure. The only thing frustrating in this vehicle is, it doesn't show the range and battery% at the same time. Experts can be Ok with it, but a normal user will face difficulty in optimizong his/her driving based on percentage left Vs range. Rest all is good in this vehicle. Thanks for this video. One more point, BPCL Charges mostly installed on hwys, but most of them are still not operating or closed. BPCL needs to looks after that. By the way, I m planning a trip to Pune to Indore and then to Kanpur, in coming days, but a stretch of more than 250 km has no chargers, awaiting for them to get installed. Lets see. I recommend your channel to everyone who says EVs are not for long distance travels. Keep up your passion and good work. Thanks 😊

[@NoiseFaktory]

Hey thanks for the support 🙏🏻 good thing about bpcl is that you see so many chargers that means in the next 3 to 6 months you will actually have a charger in 50 kms on certain highways which actually the most important ones

[@nikenike7859]

Fact check I have seen BPCL chargers in Goa non operational since last 2 YEARS.. apalling

[@Reddylion]

👍

[@TheNoobTrader-lj9nu]

Thanks for the review. First decent review of Ec3 on a long drive. Wished it was the same trip for comparison to Goa cause up hill drive consumes more power. No regen feedback also. But thanks a lot for doing this trip n giving us your honest review.

[@NoiseFaktory]

Will be giving all the other details like regen & more ones the trip is complete. Thanks 🙏

[@Wich08463]

​@@NoiseFaktory hey, I am planning to take Nexon EV Max. I have gone through many videos but couldn't find a better video. Did you make a video about complete city mileage from 100 to 20% in city mode and regen mode 2 or 3? I know it's a big ask if you have to make one as it will take so many days to make it.

[@chetanpawar5905]

Please us know, what was the speed & Time taken to cover 218 km distance during Pune- solapur

[@NoiseFaktory]

Will have a follow up video on it but we drove 80 to 90 speed on an average and without ac covered the distance in approximately 3.5 hrs from the jio charger

[@anandthepilot]

The need of the hour : chargers which can charge at a speed of 150kwh and cars that can atleast handle 100kwh (even smaller capacity BEVs). Imagine having 30kwh batterries which can be charged from 0 to 80 in 15 mins. If we have these type of charges for every 150 kms then long trips become a cakewalk. Heck I am ok even with 20kwh cars if it means more range every kwh and also if it reduces the price. Alas, I may be dreaming way too much. .

[@amarjagtap]

There's an app called ionage for BPCL chargers

[@mahernoz]

1 question, although its not showing in app, the percentage, but still you know that your battery is 40kwh, and if its showing 7khw charged, you already know that its 15-20% charged.

[@pranay220]

I think in summer, time of day makes a good Difference in power consumption.. due to the AC and the sun heating the interiors.. night time driving is lot more efficient...You can turn off the AC compressor once its cooled and turn it on once in a while

[@NoiseFaktory]

Yes in summer all evs will give less range cause of the extreme heat n car trying to keep the cabin as well as the battery cool

[@yvvkranthikiran]

Also mention the time taken to charge at all points and cost aswell

[@pranay220]

Thank you guys for doing the trip to Hyderabad...

[@mandarbhosale1347]

Is this vehicle is advisable for Mumbai to Goa road with family.

[@prashantb3749]

I am glad that I cancelled this car and bought Nexon EV prime XZ plus model. The air cooled motor is a big con and Necon ev gives far better features by paying bit extra over this car.

[@yashwanthnoogala]

Videos are good waiting for new videos

[@shakiramaanable]

Sir finally how many hours it had taken to reach hyd frm Pune and also do mention what time you people had started nt frm where you picked your friend. Hoping helpful answer🙏

[@NoiseFaktory]

Hi, please watch the return journey We have mentioned it, also we have uploaded a new video that will help you understand more about the trip n car

[@sksingh1052]

Charging was stopping because battery is only air-cooled not liquid cooled Its car's problem not the problem with charger

[@NoiseFaktory]

That charger had some issue as it took too many attempts to connect also .. had some network connectivity issue

[@saptarsiroy8723]

Charging may koi issue ec3 may nehi hay...

[@samlenlap]

Please mention time as well As it's equally important factor to consider For example how much time it took for each charging at fast charging stations Please

[@NoiseFaktory]

Hi we make a conclusion video after every trip to discuss all these factors which you will see soon

[@yogendrasoni]

you didnt talk about how long it took to charge? Thats a vital data point.

[@nagki]

Without active cooling battery life over long term usage might be an issue where the ageing across the various module might vary. We have seen this with cars like E2O, Verito.

[@hiran2016]

The placement of batteries in both the cars are different. In Tata its like matrix of cells and in Citroen its blade (just like blades in BYD).The arrangement of blades are in such a way that they have the space for dissipating the heat and it manages well than the matrix cells. Hence w.r.t the life based on cooling, you can expect the life of citroens to be better than Tata's although they are managing the cooling using water. E2O or Verito were using Lithium Ions, where citroen is using lithium iron phosphate where DoD (depth of discharge) is much better and the CD cycles are much higher. If tatas are using just Lithium ion (not sure which chemistry they use although some people claims they use iron based lithium batteries which I am not sure of), you can expect double the life for citroen batteries than Tatas.

[@nagki]

@@hiran2016 Looks like you have more info than anyone ever shared about the eC3, Svolt(the company supplying cells) didn't disclose this and I don't think they have blade cells. But Svolt does specialise in air based cooling though. But I agree that active cooling might not be needed for regular usage, but the point in question is during fast charges when the ambient temperature is high. This is known to degrade cells if the battery temperatures reach high temps. Verito and E2O are also using LFP. Tata uses LFP too. Tata EVs use liquid cooling and not water. Better get your facts correct before generally having astrological predictions on ones preferences of which is going to survive longer. I don't have anything against Citroen, it is just that company hasn't tested it enough in Indian conditions. And battery degradation due to heat is a sure issue when active and uniform cooling is missing. Also, when a company advises back to back fast charging but customers can't even do a single fast charge when the ambient temperature is high is laughable.

[@nagki]

@@hiran2016 Also, you seem to be missing the comments by other eC3 owners just below this comment, they are clearly saying active cooling or lack of it is a definite issue for fast charging. I don't understand your DoD comment in this context anyways.

[@burningions]

​@@hiran2016your views on blade battery is correct but E2Os and E veritos are using LiYP and LFP batteries respectively of Wondersky make. I know this bcoz I have both. And e2o is cabin ac cooled where as e verito is AC compressor based cooling.

[@dhruvalshrestha1672]

Bpcl edrive chargers doesn't show citroen ec3, so... what car did you selected bedore charging?

[@NoiseFaktory]

We choose Nexon or Tigor in all apps as it's the cars we own

[@sandeepr8584]

What about cost of charging

[@NoiseFaktory]

Video will be out soon

[@drfaizriyaz8721]

Is there hill hold for Citroen ec3 ? Does the vehicle roll back in slopes ? Is handbrake a must to hold the vehicle form roll back while starting from a slope ?

[@NoiseFaktory]

Doesn't have bill hold

[@nitinbhogale5129]

Do ev's have to pay toll at toll plaza or are they toll free

[@regularjoe9032]

No such luck as of now 😢

[@NoiseFaktory]

Yes

[@rohitdeshmukh6216]

Which mobile app we need to use to check the available chargers?

[@NoiseFaktory]

We have a dedicated video on charging apps. Check on our channel

[@naganjansl4619]

Good info bro... 👍

[@nagki]

Also, I don't like the fact that battery overheating issue is underplayed in the video. This is a dealbreaker for those who want to use the vehicle on highway. Citroen boasts back to back DC charging is possible but they didn't say in the night only!! What a way to fool public. According to me one should raise a complaint under warranty and not agree with this kind of shit.

[@judek-cj7xl]

Hi guys. This is the first time i think this review might mislead people. You should have reviewed fairly on lack of active cooling and details on the battery pack and lack of details that are required for a ev user are missing in this car. They would have nailed it if they had good battery pack..

[@NoiseFaktory]

Hi not at all trying to mislead anyone ... we just took it on a long drive and shown car's performance and as there are so many videos on the car we didn't bother to give out redundant details and just stick to the range test and driving experience, as far as cooling system is concerned we actually didn't face any issues and you know that any issue faced by us in travels we will be the first ones to highlight that and probably even dedicate a full video just to explain that issue . Maybe in future we will try to drive the car just during peak hit climate conditions in the afternoon for 200+ kms and try to find out if the cooling is working effectively or not

[@sarikajain1606]

Nice. Congratulations

[@jaishrimahatma9643]

Creative video. Please clarify Citroen ev can be charged at any Tata or Mahindra etc charger?

[@NoiseFaktory]

Yes. All the electric cars has the same charging gun

[@preetamrebello1808]

@ noisefaktory what is the name of the app which you used for charging during your journey?

[@ashishgurav829]

Kya ev car carging karte samay hum gadi me baithkar ac laga sakte hai kya ?

[@NoiseFaktory]

Ac toh on nahi hota, but yes fan on ho jata hai

[@mandarbhosale1347]

On which day power issue is there usually.

[@NoiseFaktory]

No particular day I guess but industrial areas usually have outages on Thursdays also in monsoon you need to be careful while planning as heavy rains cause power cuts too

[@TheNoobTrader-lj9nu]

Waiting for return journey video. Uphill drive consumption review, battery temp. Max kw when chagring please let us know.

[@NoiseFaktory]

Return video coming this friday

[@freedom3040]

Automakers should make 400km target and design, Then it will come 250km in practical mode with AC and luggage of 5 people. EV makers should make more Practical Real range mentioned for car buyers. Even if we like and want to Buy EV's. Common ppl cant stay at chargeing points with families. new food stalls should come up near every charging stations. More the Range the better, But affordability plays crucial ruinining factor for people. More EV cars should come under 9lakhs to 18lakhs with 200 to 400km real world ranges.

[@NoiseFaktory]

As of now the battery capacity which can pride real world range of 400+ are very expensive

[@freedom3040]

@@NoiseFaktory True. Thats Ruining intrested buyers who want to make rest of family agree to buy EV.

[@mravireddy]

Not sure, but heard MG Comet gives 200+ for 17Kwa battery …Cud be because of low weight of the vehicle Or MG is genuine in claims of range? good option for city ….but 2 door stopped me

[@goutham1191]

I am planning from Pune to. Hyderabad tomorrow. Can you pls share charging locations?

[@NoiseFaktory]

Hey just saw your message hope the trip went well

[@kvsrk1]

Tata has to concentrate on charges. No maintainence at all. Just they installed chargers and left. Faced lot of issues and now can’t trust they charges and plan

[@NoiseFaktory]

True.

[@harishc919]

That’s my route and same charging location which I take every alternate route. Instead of charging at Jio bp, stretch little bit and charge at charge now near Indapur

[@NoiseFaktory]

Hey we did use that charger while returning and have also used it during our first hyderabad drive in Tigor ... jio vo was used as we didn't start our journey at 100% and I saput was looking out of reach

[@MSCNCArtshop]

Ionage app for bpcl chargers

[@sksingh1052]

Charging me kitna time le rahi hai ye batao Kyoki ye zyada fast charge to nahi hoti hogi ye to pakka hai

[@NoiseFaktory]

20kwh on an average charging speed tha

[@sundarasundara4992]

Sardarji what is charge for each KW in each company chargers location. Can u show the charge bills also on vdo.

[@NoiseFaktory]

Video on all the expenses will come soon ... usually 18 to 21₹ per kw is charged at public chargers

[@indianhearty]

how much fast charging cycles you can do in a cycle? not more than 3 times ..right?

[@NoiseFaktory]

3 fast 1 slow is the best combination

[@nagki]

Sir, why overtake? when the battery is below 10% 🙂 Just don't understand.

[@VihaanRavi]

Thank you for this video

[@rakeshmehra6321]

Why you don't tell how long it took to charge?? This is very important. But thanks!

[@NoiseFaktory]

Its around an hour for this car n mostly people know these details of the cars so we avoid giving repetitive data

[@Shiva-xu5kc]

BRO, which is better tiago EV or citreon ec3 ev

[@NoiseFaktory]

Both are good in there own terms it depends what specs , range and price point are good for you

[@asandin]

total time kitana liya aapka 400km me😊

[@NoiseFaktory]

10+ hours

[@mathewmailbox]

I can never do highesy trips with such range anxiety. I just hope the ICE vehicles don't get banned before the EV's can do atleast 750kms range with one charge

[@DrDre-sy2kv]

That's an extremely accurate and acceptable range by ec3. I'm very close to buy Tiago EV but this vehicle also in my list. . .

[@indianhearty]

check Citroën spares and all ! Tiago would be anytime affordable

[@nithishsorock]

Why Tiago? How better is it?

[@judek-cj7xl]

Bro I did the same for last 3 months and I guess Tiago has been my fav in the list

[@_pr0mZ]

Wait for Punch EV

[@bigapple5842]

Why not tigor ev? Much better power and range

[@sakettamrakar8902]

App is there 'Ionage'

[@NoiseFaktory]

Thanks

[@Housenumber68]

Cruise Control Available bro?

[@NoiseFaktory]

Not available

[@ni89able]

Bro please come on a trip to bhubaneswar

[@NoiseFaktory]

Soon !!! Been planning for long

[@ni89able]

@@NoiseFaktory love u a lot

[@kjsahuja]

Singh Saab.... Please give review on the build quality and interior feel.

[@NoiseFaktory]

There are follow up videos too to cover all these topics do follow the upcoming videos

[@SureshMichael-gu3ce]

I have taken two days to travel 580 km,that is 4charging,which if in petrol car could have been 8 to 10hrs,overnight stay total fr charging rs 2000 plus room and food 2200 total 4400,petrol would have been almost same but only one day journey,now charging stations very big issue,only a car which gives atleast 250 to 300 km absolute range is best otherwise it is very Tiring long journey

[@NoiseFaktory]

Pre planning is a must in Ev there are many areas which are not yet covered so plan accordingly so that you don't get stranded

[@sandeepr8584]

Its re ganatar or not

[@NoiseFaktory]

Yes it does regen

[@chetanpawar5905]

Wow ❤

[@prashantb3749]

Please make a range test video in summer afternoon.

[@NoiseFaktory]

So we reached in the afternoon as you can see so the last stretch was done in peak afternoon hours post 12 pm

[@PraveenKumar-vj7xv]

Lithium ion phosphate in Citroen seem better compared to tata with lithium ion, otherwise new naxon look better and have good rating in crash test for the chassis used

[@NoiseFaktory]

No comparison to Tata cars safety at all and batteries regardless to there composition both are performing well now it's your decision which one you want to get as both fall in a different price segment

[@sandeeparya1168]

I m planning to buy this car in doubt to go ahead

[@Satyasjourney]

मेरी टाटा टियागो ev भी 300+ रेंज देती है

[@aayush0018]

Impossible

[@mustangroy21]

Ghanta

[@AirpackPrivateLimited]

Meri Tata Tiago 700+ range deti hai 😂😂😂

[@aayush0018]

@@AirpackPrivateLimited lol 😂

[@SDRyder]

​@Airpack Private Limited Yeah correct, in one full tank of diesel

[@UniversalVista]

Ncap Rating is Zero of eC3 EV(India)

[@MukulRawat505]

Expesne similar to cng anxiety more! No point on hiways!

[@NoiseFaktory]

Such highways cng is not available at all it s a bigger challenge to drive I know friends who own cng cars and end up using petrol only to complete there journey

[@abvlogs7885]

Hiii noise Faktory family... Today's news is that... Tata Motors launched new updated features of Tata Nexon ev max in all color variants... Is it real????... Please let me know.. I'm eagerly waiting for teal blue color with updated features..

[@NoiseFaktory]

Yes tata launched new max with updated 10inch screen. Not sure about the teal blue colour if it’s available in nexon ev max

[@danichaddha2011]

No Liquid Cooling is biggest drawback. Battery Overheating.

[@vinaybati4606]

Only one charger at every place .... this cannot cater to growing ev vehicles.

[@saketkewate1050]

its amazing and myth buster for me. Fast chargering happing at 28Kw, but someone told it takes only 14kw max. secondly fast chargring gets stopped due to heating issue.

[@NoiseFaktory]

Because of the air cooled battery the charging speed is slow compare to tata or any other electric cars which has 25-30kw battery. We did face charging stop issue, not sure if it’s coz of the battery heat or the charge was overheated

[@TheNoobTrader-lj9nu]

Like tur reply. Is there any indicator showing battery temp.

[@rakmanbaba]

60- 70 bhi touch kiya tha😂!

[@jatindersinghpandher]

Bpapa ji namaste 😅

[@vikram1262]

Ghatiya hotel kyon choose kiya bhai

[@NoiseFaktory]

Kya batayen ek friend ne suggest kiya tha

[@vikram1262]

@@NoiseFaktorybhai. Mujhe Citroen leni hain. Pls guide me

[@indianindian705]

Other than economy, no advantage of ev car. Ur whole concentration is to find charging station. Very pathetic

[@NoiseFaktory]

It's become easier by the day especially after bpcl jio and such oil companies has started installing chargers