Vacuum Forming MAGIC for CAPTAIN DISILLUSION!

[@punishedprops]

Check out the full list of tools & materials used in this video at www.punishedprops.com/2021/05/20/cpt-disillusion-panel/

[@gedion4000]

heres am amature tip (cause im not a pro lol) once you have it in the vacuform machine with the vaccume on, if you don't get some of the detail you want you can heat up the area you want to target with a heat gun to get more depth in the detail. alternatively you can use a desoldering station that has a very narrow output for the heating element that will allow you to target the area you want. have to be careful with the 3d print underneath, but with other heat resistant materials it works a charm. Cheers!

[@somefreshbread]

A 15-second shot in the episode to demonstrate one tiny thing in the movie included a couple of hours of work here and a couple hours of 3d modelling work. Absolute pros.

[@punishedprops]

Just the tiniest peek into what goes into making props and costumes for film!

[@GargoylePrincess]

The crossover I never knew I needed but I’m very glad it happened

[@punishedprops]

Surprise!

[@2handsomeforlaw]

Yes, this was awesome!

[@squackles]

I saw that in the CD video, and thought "Oh that looks so cool, wonder who made it!". Oooof course it was you!

[@punishedprops]

;)

[@beefknuckles]

Oh shit! That's sooo awesome that you're the one who made that prop! I actually exclaimed "Woah!" in excitement in the Captain D vid when he explained the process then whipped out a real life version with his logo. Great job bro!

[@punishedprops]

Tah dah! It was fun to work on!

[@blizatrex]

Really neat. I could see that as an Easter egg in flight of the navigator.

[@punishedprops]

I guess we sort of are!

[@JomasterTheSecond]

Love with your heart, use your head for everything else.

[@mecurian485]

I take that literally every time I want to hammer a nail. The doctors are worried, but interested.

[@RKroese]

@@mecurian485 Luck is like a hammerhead. You grab the handle and hammer away. And if the luck is a little lose. Luck might hit you in the teeth. - Herman Finkers

[@hannahmccall446]

"five sixty forths, that sounds right." *cries in metric*

[@punishedprops]

I'm right there with you

[@leifvejby8023]

How much is that in decimals? ^_^

[@Yorie1234]

@@leifvejby8023 0.078125 inch or 2mm

[@catfish552]

Yeah, that doesn't sound right. That'll never sound right.

[@felixbelanger2659]

It's a great thing the release of both videos was timed, I was expecting to see CD's video a year later lol... It's insane the amount of work he puts in each video

[@punishedprops]

Right? It was a fun collab!

[@Justrex01]

Love the detail! I haven't vacuformed anything since the days when I made signs for a living. Such a cool piece of work!

[@punishedprops]

Thanks! It's a very cool (but sometimes infuriating) process!

[@Anora_]

Man, that just looks so smooth and perfect! Well done :)

[@punishedprops]

Thank you!

[@keiishere511]

This has that "I'm asked to help my dad but I'm just sitting there while my dad work" kinda vibes

[@oliverl2172]

Great work man. And thanks KZbin for recommending me this. Now it's off to watch (again) Captain's video.

[@loop5720]

What's nice is that Captain Disillusion is premiering right now.

[@punishedprops]

We may or may not have planned that ;)

[@terribleauthority]

Why are you locked in the bathroom?

[@PeddlerOfSmiles]

That is SUPER interesting, I hadn't even considered him using practical effects for his explanation. Thanks for documenting this.

[@punishedprops]

;) Thanks for watching!

[@sltcnore]

I didn't know this process existed! So fascinating to witness. Thank you for this skillful creation and explanation!

[@punishedprops]

Cool huh?

[@chrispysaid]

It's 30:06 in the Captain's video for those who want to see the prop, but the whole video is worth the watch!

[@punishedprops]

Thanks!

[@commanderwyro4204]

i am getting a vacuum former from a guy online soon and am super excited for it. cant wait to make my own custom visors for my helmets!

[@punishedprops]

Hey that's awesome!

[@ImaginationToForm]

Great job. That last bit of video makes the panel look on fire.

[@punishedprops]

Thanks! I LOVE how the chrome reflects light so well

[@carlosortega3d]

I fricking love watching this type of colaborations. Awesome work!!!

[@punishedprops]

Hey thanks so much for watching!

[@BrianSantero]

OMG TWO OF MY FAVORITE TUBERS!

[@punishedprops]

Huzzah! Thanks very much for watching!

[@3nertia]

So neat to see two of my favorite KZbinrs collaborate on something I loved from my childhood! Hopefully you two could work on a Flight of the Navigator sequel together! :O :D

[@punishedprops]

That would be cool!

[@sharky255]

So cool thanks for the insight on how a prop like that is made!

[@punishedprops]

Thanks so much for watching!

[@BeInspiredwithDominic]

That's a cool little project, and lots of good info to keep handy. I love the effect you get from backlighting this - "the thumbnail is lava" is a game not played often enough. Thanks for sharing, Bill!

[@punishedprops]

Hah! Thanks so much for watching!

[@everett8435]

I love everyone involved here! Great work Bill and team!

[@punishedprops]

Thank you kindly!

[@TheConGaminator]

I have a slowly growing art channel. I just want to say, the work *you* guys do is inspiring to me.

[@motionsick]

Nice with the chuck key retractor. I put those on all my drill presses.

[@punishedprops]

It's so handy!

[@DasGanon]

The retractable badge holder for your chuck key is one of those blindingly obvious in hindsight things. Like I'm sitting here going "how the heck have I never thought about that???!?!" angry with myself it's such a good idea

[@Toleich]

I know, right?

[@punishedprops]

I'm sure it took me longer than necessary to think of it in the first place XD

[@Paul_Lane]

Love the Dracula names you gave to the vacuum forming devices.

[@kenlizak7698]

You can use a heat gun to get those little areas to sink more into the mold. just dont go too close or hold too long over an area. waving the heat gun around in small circles will help.

[@punishedprops]

Thanks for the tip!

[@BleughBleugh]

Need to check out Draft angles and also putting more holes into the thing to pull the air through

[@punishedprops]

The draft angle on this was totally fine but I should have added a pocket on the under side of the master to distribute the suction more evenly.

[@RSpudieD]

Turned out so cool! Nice work!

[@punishedprops]

Hey thanks!

[@skwerwl]

6:58 had me laughing - both at the sound & Bill's expression XD

[@punishedprops]

Our vacuum's a little special :)

[@VacFink]

I love the simplicity of that vacuum forming machine. Very easy for anyone to build and meet most needs. I went whole hog back in the day and built a big daddy 2x4 ft former from the TK forums and its 500lb of steel and fire breathing glory that's too massive to use most of the time. The tip here is get as far as you can with simplicity and you'll have a heavier wallet and more shop space!

[@punishedprops]

Wow! That's awesome!

[@radicalxedward8047]

I’m new to this channel and it being the 1 of only 2 diy/maker sorts of channels I watch that uses imperial really throws me especially when working with 3D printed stuff.

[@punishedprops]

Yeah I try to use Metric whenever I can, it's what I prefer but sometimes my tools are in Imperial

[@Yourhatedquestion]

Today I learned the rough terrain about a skill I didn't know existed until yesterday when I saw CD's vid

[@punishedprops]

Tah-dah!

[@OtisMcNuttIII]

Cool I saw Captain D's video on Flight of the Navigator but didn't know that Punished props made the Chrome prop he used to explain how the backlighting worked in the film.

[@punishedprops]

We sure did!

[@aprilblackregentart6647]

That is so pretty!

[@punishedprops]

Right? We LOVE how this super shiny chrome turned out :)

[@billbucktube]

Excellent set of tips and experience!

[@punishedprops]

Glad you found it helpful!

[@FlyingWoookie]

I love the names of all the equipment in the shop 😂💖 it’s cracking me up

[@punishedprops]

Prop making is serious business 😂

[@Gunbudder]

i was wondering who made those awesome vacuum formed parts!

[@punishedprops]

It was so great to contribute a tiny bit in such an awesome production!

[@jamesbarisitz4794]

Very cool setup. Looks easy to build and practical. ✌

[@punishedprops]

Thanks!

[@VariablePenguin]

That's was cool and his video was really a fun watch.

[@punishedprops]

Awesome! So glad you enjoyed them both!

[@SkellyHell]

When I saw this in the Captain's video, I assumed it was just a special effect like he often uses for examples, didnt realise it was fully practical!

[@punishedprops]

It sure is!

[@vwluis]

With plastic it's more complicated, i vacuum form a lot of plaster molds, and to get better details it's great to preheat the mold, a few degrees make a big difference, I personally for petg get at least 60⁰C on the mold.

[@punishedprops]

Yeah we actually were able to do that on one of our 3D printed bucks but only because we printed it at an extra high density so it could handle it

[@mxferro]

You could have just spray paint with high quality fine mist like Tamiya. It would have already filled in the smaller gaps and thin layer eliminate visible rough texture as the plastic thickness vac over it on back side would have smoothed out on it's own.

[@bzqp2]

Good timing. I'm preparing myself to build my own DIY vacuum form! :D

[@punishedprops]

Sweet!

[@bzqp2]

@@punishedprops I also have one more question to you guys. I just watched your video on priming EVA foam for painting. Unfortunately - you only test the side without the texture on, which is very easy to paint. But how to prime the side of the mat with the texture on?? It has some nasty finish that I can't paint with anything I tried. Nothing seems to bond to it. I'm planning to repaint my 9-year-old N7 Armor soon but I can't seem to find a reliable technique (the last paint I used worked for a few months, but now after 9 years it's chipping off like crazy)... :( :( I know that you also have a similar N7 Armor so you had do solve the exact same problem somehow.

[@liljenborg2517]

Those little holes you drilled won't work very well if they don't line up with the holes in your platten. You need a little bit of a hollow under your puck so your vacuum will distribute through those holes and suck your plastic down into those details.

[@Vangelis2019]

I was thinking the exact same thing. It would save filament too. 👍

[@schizoidhaus]

i was gonna comment the same, he could also raise the print with washers or something

[@punishedprops]

Thanks for the tips!

[@sulpheralchemist]

This might be done as set dressing but I noticed you have your mask hanging on the wall behind you. you can drasticly extend the life of the organic filters by storing them in an air tight container. it stops them reacting with random organic vapors in the air.

[@steprockmedia]

Dude! You guys made that piece?? It looked great in the CD video earlier today

[@punishedprops]

We sure did!

[@sharpfang]

I wonder if you could get deeper imprint if you heated the 3d printed mold a bit - not anywhere near melting temperature, but a good bit above ambient. That plastic sheet has an awfully low thermal capacity, meaning the moment it touches something cold, it cools down and solidifies immediately in that spot (and drains heat from adjacent areas solidifying them too). Keeping the mold warm should allow the sheet to flow more.

[@punishedprops]

Very possibly!

[@TheConGaminator]

Great work! This looks really neat!

[@punishedprops]

We love how it turned out!

[@FeardoGaming]

Brilliant. Still loving your stuff. Luvs 😘

[@punishedprops]

Thanks so much!

[@MeatSim9]

I saw Captain D's video in my suggested, but was holding off for no real reason. But now I know to watch for that panel. :D

[@punishedprops]

Yeah! Check it out!

[@JormunB]

You knocked it outta the park, gang. Beautiful stuff!

[@punishedprops]

Thanks very much!

[@adamshinbrot]

Have you thought about creating a small ledge on the underside of the mold, so there is an air gap between the bottom of the mold and the top of the platen? Otherwise the small holes you added to the mold back up onto solid board and are not likely to help pull the vacuum.

[@punishedprops]

I definitely should have done something like that, I think it would have helped to get those little crevices to form better

[@tlac4120]

Great work! As always.

[@punishedprops]

Thanks!

[@jeffmoore6917]

That poor printer needs some love, with the amount of putty used, it is slacking a wee bit. But, it appears it made it possible to see what you do to fix it.....so, it all worked out. Excellent work as usual.

[@punishedprops]

Yeah it's been a little temperamental lately, but I tend to use a decent amount of putty regardless if I want a really nice finish

[@NOLNV1]

you can really make some pretty big stuff in an instant with vacuum forming!

[@punishedprops]

Right? It's a very cool process

[@AcrimoniousMirth]

May be worth experimenting with just printing top infills at like 90% or something instead of 100% so there’s some porosity, replicating the porosity in plaster of Paris forms and so on.

[@punishedprops]

Yeah I'm not sure how that would work! It may not withstand the heat of vacuum forming as well

[@AcrimoniousMirth]

@@punishedprops me neither but could be worth a shot! I’d experiment with it myself but I don’t have enough room in my cramped flat to add in a vacuum former as well 😂

[@LootGoblinPenny]

I would love to see some Castlevania inspired props, like the Morningstar Whip or Alucard's blade, or maybe some armour.

[@punishedprops]

Thanks for the suggestion!

[@nathanalaneller]

Is it possible to make a vacuum form buck out of paper mache? ("thought", layered with pant or rubber cement?)

[@everett8435]

The song of Vlad the Inhaler now available on iTunes. :D

[@digitalsparky]

only problem is, their music sucks.... :P

[@punishedprops]

Bahahahaha!

[@AlRoderick]

The vacuum forming machine is a SoundCloud (w)rapper.

[@noxsamus397]

just watched CD video, and now this ... amazing how simple some stuff is to make and have so cool effect when its done. you see it has not to be that hard to make cool sh!t.

[@punishedprops]

Right?

[@reddcube]

FYI 5/64 inches is a 2mm drill.

[@punishedprops]

Yeah I have both metric and imperial in the shop and often switch between the two! Wish we could all just settle on metric though :)

[@danieldimitri6133]

Isnt that spaz paint great? Best chrome effect ive ever used by far.

[@punishedprops]

It's a great product!

[@hunterdouglas9765]

“Five 64ths; that sounds right” *sighs in metric

[@punishedprops]

We're right there with you - we definitely prefer metric

[@dogwalker666]

Agreed 3D printer hi tech equipment then uses 5/64" drill.

[@lewismassie]

Like a true VFX master, the Cap knows when to use a physical model haha

[@punishedprops]

It's an important skill!

[@classicalandexperimentalmu320]

This is AWESOME ! ! !

[@punishedprops]

Thanks so much!

[@fakermakerprops3948]

Ahh this is the best day of my life!

[@AcheForWake]

5:30 and 9:25 had my 6 year old laughing out loud. ‘What are you doing sticker!’ I watched the CD video first, great to see KZbinrs collaborating :-)

[@punishedprops]

Gaaawww

[@usjdhsuakndhd]

I love your content Bill, I've been watching since you made the Sea of Thieves Skull. I love all your videos

[@punishedprops]

Thanks very much! We really appreciate your support :D

[@jones1618]

In the Captain Disillusion video, the panel gets its closeup here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqrMqYCmqqx4gpo

[@punishedprops]

Hey thanks!

[@sauronsauronsauronsauron8891]

Great Vid. I was asking myself if you had abandoned vacuum forming after building the large heating box and vacuum plate a while ago, which would have been a damn shame! Would you try out a larger vacuum forming project with your larger plate and frame for chest armor (or the like) to educate us on the challenges of larger projects? That would be awesome! I even saw a maker video once where some used high density eva foam successfuly in vacuum forming instead of styrene or petg....Cheers from Germany!

[@punishedprops]

I'm not sure! If we come up with a costume that needs the process then we'll definitely try it out :)

[@radicalxedward8047]

I’ve seen a lot of different diy vacuum formers, but I’ve never seen anyone add any sort of scale to eyeball a more accurate idea of how far the plastic is sagging since that seems to be so important to the fit / finish. I wonder why that is.

[@punishedprops]

Probably because it's inconsistent and totally dependent on the plastic and heating conditions

[@ritzmillan7033]

Liked how you just reused the tape !

[@punishedprops]

Might as well!

[@haganshabba]

Just earned a new sub

[@fakermakerprops3948]

Do you think you can make a video explaining how to print with ABS?

[@punishedprops]

Hmmm that's a little tough because it's SO dependent on your printer. I did make this video about creating an enclosure to improve ABS prints: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKLPiIZqid-Vb7s My buddy Joel also has a WHOLE channel about 3D printing and it's full of info. Worth a look! kzbin.infovideos

[@fakermakerprops3948]

Good to know, thanks!

[@umbraelegios4130]

Like the "hack" of having the chuck key on a retractable leash.

[@punishedprops]

So handy

[@spitfyr97]

the sanding king, back in action.

[@punishedprops]

You're too kind :)

[@KATStudio]

lots of effort for a few seconds shot, that's insane!

[@punishedprops]

That's Showbiz, baby!

[@dogwalker666]

Its common for model shops to spend ages building a prop or model only to never be used.

[@matthewpeck4016]

Love your channel. Do you have the second rev of the maker knife? Because the first rev, the one from the KS, was an absolute piece of junk. I wonder if the second version fixed any of the multitude of problems.

[@punishedprops]

I'm not sure which version I have but I love it

[@tzisorey]

You should make a project of making a pouncing bag - because that's GOT to be a better way than just shaking a stock-standard bottle of talcum powder over your project.

[@punishedprops]

It very well could be!

[@2handsomeforlaw]

"the Bungholer" made me laugh out loud! :D

[@punishedprops]

We keep things nice and silly around here :)

[@Quiltfish]

You need some TP for that drill press?

[@punishedprops]

Maybe XD

[@baijokull]

Is warming up your template before sucking the plastic onto it not something that would help? 3d printed abs should be fine at like 80-100°C

[@punishedprops]

It could help a little, I believe we tried that when making a visor one time

[@robertjustice7791]

Is there an STL of the panel?

[@punishedprops]

There is not

[@ku8721]

The most important thing I learned here is THERE IS A NEW CAPTAIN DISILLUSION VIDEO!!!!!! Its been almost 6 months! This was like waiting for new Rick and Morty

[@punishedprops]

Surprise!

[@wesallen3926]

just watch the Kickstarter video for the kinetic-driver, I GOT CHILLS...

[@punishedprops]

Right? Giaco knows what he's about

[@wesallen3926]

@@punishedprops I''m definantly planing to get one and build a steam/diesel punk theamed hybrid solar/kennetic driven rotating stand for the driver as part of a 2 part project so I can put it on display next to a Coffee Engine once I get one of each. I've got an idea for a hopefully infinantly moving coffee engine that Should virtually "never" stop if all goes well. The stand I want to build for the driver uses the same basic principals and mechanics as a self winding pocket watch to maximize the kenetic potential of the driver to reverses and dampen the energy to spin the stand/display in the opposite direction at a slightly slower speed and storing the energy in the self winding mechinism... So if I start the driver in a clockwise spin, the display on which is sits should spin in a counter-clockwise rotation till the mechanism collects enough stored energy to reverse kenetic energy in on its self pushing the stand into a clockwise rotation causing the driver to rotate counter-clockwise, and vise versa. I've also thought about doing this with an antique or reproduction Pull string Spinning top.

[@Brimannn1]

9:26 I TOLD YOU NOT TO BOTHER ME WHEN IM CLEANING MY ROOM!

[@punishedprops]

Ha HAAAAAA! X'D

[@amirulmukmin4965]

long time no see.. hope u make more video about prop n stuff in future.. goodluck!

[@punishedprops]

We have more in the works right now!

[@ap_2048]

The Liquid Mirror paint looks great even with the super thin coat and no gloss black under layer, that is impressive! What are your opinions of it, is it better than the Molotow chrome paint? Is it cheaper? I'd like to know!

[@punishedprops]

We talk about this a bit in this video! kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6TQlIeLf76ijKc

[@JamFam1957]

that’s pretty frickin epic 🤩

[@punishedprops]

Thank you very much!

[@onickss5663]

Love the vids keep it up

[@punishedprops]

Will do! Thank you for your support :)

[@BeastyJohnson69420]

Can we get a link to that drill press please??? I really need something called "The Bungholer" in my shop....lol

[@punishedprops]

We added that decal ourselves :) But the Drill Press I use is similar to this one: amzn.to/2BGhiul

[@MidnightMaker]

This is like e-mailing a wrench to the ISS...

[@Noone-of-your-Business]

"Vlad the Inhaler" was already pretty good, but I did not expect you to hit me over the head with "Count Vacula" right after recovery.

[@punishedprops]

;)

[@alanfletcher5080]

Can you hit places with a heat gun while on the vacuum?

[@punishedprops]

You can, but you run the risk of warping the plastic with too much heat in one place

[@chrisfs150]

It wont pull into the details as the holes in the mould and platten dont line up enough for the suck to work...

[@Atomblob]

Do the layer lines from the 3D print get transferred on the vacuum formed sheet? Does anybody have some experience with different layer heights (0.1/ 0.2 /0.3 mm) and vacuum forming with ABS/ PS/ PET(G) sheets (0.5 - 3 mm)? I would love to get some tips!

[@punishedprops]

If the layer lines are significant then you could end up seeing some of the texture in your final pull

[@Atomblob]

@@punishedprops Is 0.2 mm too significant?