[Punishing: Gray Raven] Smarter Progression Guide (Investments Revisited, Stages NOT to farm, Tips+)

[@Lace]

I'm sorry I kept finding things to talk about and just kept rambling lmao.

[@Lace]

Also, I kind of stuffed the release for this video, can you let me know if you actually got a notification for this or anything?

[@marvelnube]

No worries, it's a really great thing, no need to apologize lol. Need all the tips and insights we can get to play smart.

[@cubemage3336]

@@Lace I got a notification.

[@jambasic1400]

I suggest putting bullet points on the video description of the topics you'll discuss with timestamps. So that people know what they'll see and skip to thing they want to know rather than skimming the video manually and get tired and search another video.

[@nevolence]

11 months later and this is STILL very helpful for a new player like me, thank you so much

[@marvelnube]

Thanks for the tips, wouldn't even know about those cog boxes in the inventory lol. They really borrow a lot of stuff from Honkai Impact here. The stamina not refilling when we level up is kinda a bummer and definitely demand us to play smart :')

[@Lace]

yeah dude im so stamina starved man. lots of inspiration from HI3 hehe

[@marvelnube]

@@Lace way too many, even the gacha too :') Imitating is the most sincere form of flattery indeed hahaha

[@eids08]

I just use Liv Luminance to everything, tbh you just need to focus on 1 character at a time. Just need to switch the memory you need on where you will go.

[@Lace]

that's actually how i've been feeling about this too

[@jeffreyphandani5160]

Right now I'm trying to focusing on nanami with memory that used for lucia, but later when selena arrived, i switch my memory for lucia to selena in the hope that later in game i'll be getting another type of six star memories, so i could just switch to that & upgrade it

[@shin-jo2801]

Him : "So, these are your DPS-ers" me : *Proceed to make nanami DPS because she uses a rolled blade*

[@Lace]

yeah i mean she literally has a chainsaw LOL

[@harshithhitman9924]

Lol I choose my S rank healer as main dps

[@shin-jo2801]

@@harshithhitman9924 were waifu enjoyer 🔥

[@randomguywithdetermination6482]

waifu > Meta

[@bobisalim]

@@harshithhitman9924 haha same bro

[@CrayonConoisseur]

Alpha might be OP but my playstyle is more on ranged characters. So I'll concentrate on raising my S Lee and A Bianca. Maybe get S Bianca soon too!~

[@minarichanisyerinsbangsisl4984]

S.Lee is so FUN to play. Dual gun and flipping with his atk animation, so hype.

[@Lace]

dude he's so fricken cool. i kinda wish i got him...

[@dan15k]

@@Lace I got S Lee from my free 10 Summons but I don’t use him cause I’m sticking to my waifu team

[@wakuwaku9920]

I also want to get him.... Bianca is kinda hard to play (for me) she's only suitable in Co-op..

[@shonml1446]

I used my S class selector on him. And then i got him from his event banner as well as beginner banner... need 2 more copies of him to be SSS..

[@Arlecchinoenthusiast]

He Is my main, I have Da vinci, Darwin, and hanna on him bros a literal beast

[@KalleDemos666]

Just FYI, apparently there's some packs in the store that historically last as much as a patch, current packs last 2 weeks more from now so Alpha could very well be coming in 2 weeks and not a month.

[@Lace]

oh my god this... is a little bit hardcore

[@Alexandragon1]

Play smart - thx for info! Especially about drop rates.

[@Lace]

no worries, have fun!

[@redberyl9157]

Lol, S-Liv is my main damage dealer.

[@Zaffie-]

A karenina should definitely be on that table.

[@CupOfThea97]

just starter playing this a couple days ago. it's really fun! i even got alpha o: play smart c:

[@jeffreyphandani5160]

For six star memory, darwin is the most op for me, put 4 of darwin plus two condelina & u get a great trait, condelina raising ur basic attack to 15%, so almost like other that stack up to 3 (times 5) or 5 (times 3), but for condelina it's already fix for 15% add, now, for the 4 card effect candelina only give u a chance to go berserk, & that chance is just 25%, but for darwin that gives u a boost if u ping any orb, & for ping 3 same collor of orb, u released a shockwave that deal damage for 600% damage within 12 meters area, that for six star memory. For fifth star memory, i recommend mozart for four memory plus two of any kind of memory that add permanent boost for ur basic damage, mozard for 4 set gives u 200% damage to all enemy in the screen when u go into matrix

[@akashee7864]

I'm new to the game, is Darwin flexible for any DPS?

[@jeffreyphandani5160]

@@akashee7864 my bad, i already leaving the game since the chance of upgrading the hero too much of a pity, i don't play regularly anymore for any kind of that gama that require us to get a rare hero for several times in order to upgrade them into at least basic OP state, the only game like that that i play right now only blue archive (much more generous in gems), counter side (this one u could farming regularly daily to upgrade the hero star, before awakening), and figure fantasy, but very rare since it can progress further more, nowadays i play rpg dungeon style like undecember, cost me too heavy for gacha game like that

[@linatchaika223]

I just started so I dont have my S yet and I want to pull before I use the free choice certificate, I use A Lee as my main dps 😅

[@Lace]

A Lee is fine tbh, you just gotta use whoever you can. this is why i lowkey recommending reroll because it lets you use your S selector immediately

[@raynelancaster2918]

Me and My S-Liv go Brrrrr through all the stages. Selector picked her and then later 40x also her. I guess I’m destined to be a supporter 🤡

[@AkyXf]

S liv actually does enough damage to be considered sub-dps lol + she is literally immortal with her self heal.

[@Lace]

hahaha she is so good dude screw it

[@yurika-rie]

Goodluck at chap 5-8 tho

[@frosteckzeal7223]

On my first day, I got stuck, not because I suck, but because I need to be lvl 35 to proceed to the next normal story...

[@yellownomadglitch3309]

Dps are overrated, my healer is the dps, I having a lot of fun with swapping, a rotation of Matrixes, a double matrix on Liv because why not

[@Lace]

that's... pretty funny maybe i'll try it

[@yellownomadglitch3309]

@@Lace I actually was thinking to get S Liv but her is more DPS the B Liv for sure, A Liv should be only damage or her orbs? I should see what they do better

[@disyali]

@@yellownomadglitch3309 S Liv is pretty tanky for DPS healer she's really good

[@yellownomadglitch3309]

@@disyali Yeah, I see more B Liv as a DPS then S Liv, B Liv QTE actually do damage too, switch in is a yellow orb to suck in enemies and can get a core off with a red orb easily while being AoE on both things, maybe tho for bosses S Liv seems better as she power up Basic Attacks too

[@Rafroo]

@@yellownomadglitch3309 I like A Liv, I feel like shes a good balance between support and dps,lots of crowd control

[@Smooow1]

So for the team comps, I got S Karenina from the regular banner, so I should pick S nanami over S Kamui on the selector so I can get a headstart on a mono team right ? Do elements matter outside of your own team comps, like there's a boss or content that's resistant to fire element ?

[@nurazmi016]

play smart guys, play smart btw laciey i invest into lucia as my beginner dps is that bad ?

[@Lace]

bro to be honest, i dumped all of my investments into my lucia too LOL.

[@wakuwaku9920]

When I used my Darwin and Philip in Liv..

[@ThriftyCat]

0:09 Rip Cat

[@Lace]

rip :(

[@templeknights]

When he called Richlue and Darwin "guys" I Iost it lmao.

[@karmakitty6998]

Darwin is a guy I don’t know about the other

[@templeknights]

@@karmakitty6998 I know about Darwin it was the Richlue part that was the kicker you can clearly see her breast in her 5* memory portraits.

[@karmakitty6998]

@@templeknights ok sorry 😂

[@Lace]

awkward hahahah

[@eyywannn8601]

Well, they’re all girls. Guys in real life.

[@damienvause6221]

I keep hearing about that alpha character everywhre whenever I look for nub guides but I will still stick with watanabe, guy is so cool

[@Vennoire]

Yess, Its PvE game tho.

[@Lace]

yeah so as Reno said, bro you do you

[@brooklesnar3614]

I got ss bianca but dont have weap should I give it a try?

[@xursyn]

So in these guides, we’re being told to only prioritize on leveling tank and supports QTE’s since we’ll mainly be using our Attacker, so what’s the point of having a tank/support in the team? Cuz if we’re switching out to them in order to do their intended job, aren’t they now severely under leveled compared to the main dps carry??

[@Lace]

great question! as for levels, they definitely should be levelled. furthermore, tanks break shields/super armour (its the yellow bar underneath some bosses/mobs HP) and also have a bunch of physical/elemental defence downs/will apply effects from their memories. supports/healers will support and heal you and potentially give you buffs too (as you saw from that one 5* consciousness for +5% healing and phys damage). eventually, you'll be dumping more resources into them, its just that *at this point*, the easiest way to progress is to do more dps.

[@charaznabelle6796]

I levelled all my 3 main and carries me a lot now to main story not minding such meta i just like to see how they grow...

[@hirameku5745]

Great vid! I wish i watched this when i started

[@Lace]

hope its helping you now!

[@40haru95]

That A kamui on the 2nd tier is actually acceptable. I mean the guy can deal a lot of damage while being a tank andfun to use because of the built in parry mechanic in him

[@Lace]

yeah like to be honest most characters you can work with. and like you said, there are so many fun ones too

[@odek7288]

Is it good idea to farm a lot of cogs to buy 6* memories from shop?

[@bobisalim]

Better farm on memory resource stage 4, gauarntee get *6 memory on 8 try or even less try

[@whitealpha6yearsago132]

@@bobisalim wait what do you mean guaranted at 8 tries or less?

[@bobisalim]

@@whitealpha6yearsago132 you will get *6 memories in 8 attempt after 7 tries, its like pitty at 8 tries or you can get it before 8 tries

[@koraruo]

is there a way to recycle the resources i dumped into leveling constructs? is there a better way to recycle/carry over stats for the leveled 4/5 star weapons when i get higher tier ones? (play smart btw)

[@Lace]

at this point, i dont believe so

[@bingchilling994]

Hey I have a question What to roll on for s beginner And how to increase battle points And what resources to grind for and how many times

[@Lace]

Roll for Alpha 100%. Boost your weapon, character level and skills, and memories to increase BP. And grind out the event check out my event video

[@bingchilling994]

@@Lace ohhh okay bro thx I'll do

[@JJKMagic]

What about the Condelina Set? It is currently the only 6 star set that I even create a 2-Piece Set with. I don't think I have ever seen any anyone mention this set.

[@raiden_jay]

Does Mozart set work on characters(off-field)that do QTEs during matrix?

[@Lace]

thats actually a really good question, i believe it only works on the character that equips it

[@serentynym3569]

Are A Sophia and S Nanami available for global yet? I run S Karenina and I dont have either of those constructs.

[@100sugar2]

Sophia is not but S Nanami is in the starter banner and the s rank choice box

[@rachymn7883]

But how do we progress without investing in Lucia and Liv as well as Nanami

[@Lace]

yeah look i dumped everything into my B Lucia and Liv LOL. B Liv is a very safe investment

[@Graphiccore]

U should believe in B-Liv, Alpha/Rosetta(soon)/B liv are the physical team Meta.

[@ismaelhiza4423]

My main man Watanabe being at the bottom of the Physical Attackers :( lol jk Ill still invest in him since its either him or the A rank Lee for now(altho he seems interesting too) Edit: a question, can you stack multiple times the 2 set bonus? say for example if I equip all 6 slots of the same set, would that be 2-bonus+4-bonus+2-bonus again?

[@lollipoplalisa]

As far as I know 2 set and 4 set bonuses only proc once per set, I could be wrong though so you might wanna double check

[@Lace]

i believe Layla is correct. bro tbh just gotta use whoever you want!

[@zacbale3411]

whoops, i levelled all 3 of my characters skills to the max i could..... even my supports who are only used for qte

[@pachapon8366]

Not too bad its still early dont worry so you can use them for pain cage, when we get more characters thats when you decide who to build

[@Lace]

yeah i think thats fine tbh

[@VendraGenshin]

I have the same mindset to save for future top teams, but at the moment I need a Dps to hyper carrie. Would u recommend investing into S kamui, Bianca or keep struggling?

[@Lace]

i would recommend investing into S Kamui 100%, he's just so strong

[@elknolasshrineofraja3966]

🌸❤️I would have to say that your content is absolutely delicious and thus you have earned yourself a new subscriber❤️🌸

[@zerosan989]

🌸😁You are everywhere my queen😁🌸

[@Lace]

thank you very much for the kind words, though having my content being called delicious is new heh

[@elknolasshrineofraja3966]

@@Lace 😹😹

[@lacqs9129]

any tips on clearing dorm dailies? for some reason there are 2 "clear 3 events" missions on mine, one got cleared but the other one just stays there..

[@Jona07111]

You have to wait. I think it may be somewhat determined by mood as well. Note that if you send them out on chores, they won't be in the room to have an event. At some point, when you go to the dorm home screen, it'll say "event" in blue next to the dorm. When you go into the dorm, it'll have an icon above the char's head saying what they want to do. For example, if they have a picture of a bed, then you gotta hold the cursor on top of them then drag them to the bed.

[@lacqs9129]

@@Jona07111 don't know how but I just somehow cleared it, by tapping them when I'm checking if I can pat them again.. I just asked because when I'm doing this in tw/cn/jp server I just do all headpats, craft 3 then send out 2 units and all missions are done, which I find it weird here in global version.. or maybe they just updated/reworked the older versions daily >_< thanks for infos..

[@Lace]

i think that one was a bug

[@Jona07111]

@@lacqs9129 The blue triangle above their head also counts as an event. Those blue triangle events can either give affection toward that character, a dorm coin, or a gift.

[@VendraGenshin]

Should I stop doing the campaign if I don’t get 3 stars or just push to the max level I can beat?

[@CaptainZhariff]

for me, i just push the levels and i do not care about getting 3 stars because a lot of contents are locked unless we clear a certain stage (regardless of how many stars). We can always revisit them in the future if we want

[@Mfmail12484]

You probably can beat it , i beat stages at 2200 bp while using 1000 bp 1 char and other chars support 500 bp each so if u didnt play honkai impact before watch some guides and u will be able to easily beat stages with higher bp tho sometimes u need dmg cuz some stages has timer so when u r stuck cuz of not enough dmg then upgrade ur main dmg dealer , ignore the other 2 make them support healer and buffer and only focus on the main until u get 5 stars

[@VendraGenshin]

@@Mfmail12484 yeah I can easily clear the stages, just some phases that it takes more than 150s but its all good

[@Lace]

in my opinion give them a few tries to go 3-stars. if you really can't, just push on. more important to get war zone + pain cage

[@destructorking4197]

I have s kamui and bianca built.should i change kamui for nanami as tank?

[@Lace]

you could, but i think s kamui is fine

[@roycephantom9053]

I'm lvl 28 right now so can I get to 45 in 3 weeks without purchasing anything?

[@pirisel1137]

It doesnt even take 3 weeks lol

[@roycephantom9053]

Ohh😅🤣

[@pirisel1137]

@@roycephantom9053 took me almost 2 weeks to get to 50

[@roycephantom9053]

Oh I got to lvl 35 in 3 days😅. And should I save those event r&d tickets for alpha?

[@SeekGrace]

So, according to team comps you need one of each roles in a team. What happens if I bring two DPS, one healer and skip the tank for example ?

[@cyn9107]

It's absolutely fine tbh. But you need to pay attention to 2 things: 1. Is the chosen leader buff (some constructs' leader buff require 3 different classes); 2. Which content stage are you going to play (ex: I usually only bring 2 attackers and 1 tank in warzone where I need to kill the enemy fast instead of surviving in a long battle, so that I can switch the attackers around and have my tank wears down the armor)

[@davegl9305]

I have been wasting so many resources in leveling up characters I'm not even using (and all their skills + some equipment...). I pulled s bianca and her weapon the other day and it looks like I won't be able to use her for a long time...

[@rizqizen4528]

Is pity carry on to the next banner? Really want to gacha on lee limited banner, need more constructs, especially A lucia

[@Vennoire]

I read somewhere pity get carried, but only on the same tab.

[@Lace]

Reno is correct

[@axlhunter0389]

I’m just having fun with my A Karenina and A Liv

[@harshithhitman9924]

I choose S healer and I got A cannon girl and the main character which is best setup or character go with my S healer

[@Lace]

yeah go with those two, and you just need a tank now :) B Nanami is a good choice

[@harshithhitman9924]

@@Lace what about that free now user we going to get In daily login is she Worth more then my current connon girl??

[@nyal3698]

Is A Kamui better than Tenebrion?

[@Lace]

they're different. A Kamui is to help physical teams, S Kamui is to help dark teams

[@Nox4ever00]

I'm new did I miss the Alpha banner?

[@Lace]

yeah but itll be back

[@stealthydelta2189]

Who’s better, S Liv or B Liv?

[@Lace]

S Liv for co op, babel, B Liv for the phys shred at SSS

[@Ash-ti4sb]

Ty for the tips boss man gotta play smart. Gotta say I’m really enjoying this game even though I’ve never like action gachas like this. Tried Honkai a week ago and didn’t like it

[@Lace]

oh thats bizarre, they're sorta similar. glad you're enjoying this though

[@cubemage3336]

I agree. Lucia best girl. Also, are the rookie missions temporary? as in, do I have to rush them?

[@Lace]

no you shouldn't need to rush them

[@speedfx7989]

How's that we "all going to get alpha" ?

[@seven_8434]

Because people will pull for her because she's popular and incredibly powerful.

[@speedfx7989]

@@seven_8434 i though it was something like "everyone is getting a free copy" lol

[@seven_8434]

@@speedfx7989 I wish

[@rimurutempura7146]

Is A Karenina viable?

[@Lace]

yes most definitely. i would say everyone is viable tbh. for example, B Lucia has such a massive multiplier on her QTE, but she still gets trashed 'cause she's a starter

[@joaqs7599]

Is Karenina bad? Got her Ember

[@Lace]

Karenina is a great standalone fire DPS, but there are unfortunately not many options

[@planetnoodlee]

What’s the point of having a healer in a single player mode when she only heals herself

[@Harvest717]

B Liv can heal other characters through her QTE. At SSS she provides phys DMG buff when she's not the active character.

[@planetnoodlee]

@@Harvest717 so if I switch to her on the battlefield I get all character healed?

[@Harvest717]

@@planetnoodlee No, when you ping 3 orbs of her color, you can tap on her portrait to summon her to heal.

[@Zade1994]

Man i'm confused. Some people talking about 100% taking kamui from the selector and have different opinions in what to invest now...Can't tell what to do with all this mixed advice

[@Lace]

this is what it comes down to: pick S Kamui if you're willing to wait about 6 months before he's super meta. up until then, he's a very solid character if you somehow ended up with S Nanami, you *can* pick S Karenina and run a fire team if you somehow ended up with S Liv, pick S Kamui for the same reasons if you ended up with S Karenina, you *can* pick S Nanami, but you could also pick up anyone else (like S Kamui) in terms of investment, if i got S Kamui, i would throw all of my resources at him

[@Zade1994]

@@Lace Thanks for the elaborate answer. That helped.

[@x4meet869]

Oh rip, I invested a lot into A Karenina as she was the first 4 star I got 😞 ....

[@seven_8434]

She's really good for war zone. She's a worthy investment imo.

[@Lace]

agree with Seven, A Karenina is probably one of the best investments for WZ

[@oak6225]

Did I miss something or is that 5* sword free?

[@devimon4607]

Recharge reward

[@Vennoire]

This is good for late game, but you will lilttle bit struggle in early (but not really).. Till they release alpha banner 😆

[@Lace]

yeah its a bit of a struggle for a pretty good pay off

[@OSeanSanO]

Playing smart AF

[@notgirina]

i wonder if there's any other way to get purple cards other from bounty ;-; play smart!

[@vima5112]

when are you going to use your S rank selector?

[@jaybhullar8464]

Get S Kamui

[@Lace]

ill use it after i find out what i get in the beginner box :)

[@robbiebubble3670]

@@Lace I got S Nanami from my beginner pulls. Rip me. Now I'll have to wait again. Either wanna get S Liv or S Kamui and get the other one from selector

[@brandonshaw1698]

Well You see This video is for Optimal Strategy But for me The only thing I care to optimize in games like this is how much damage my “supports” can do S Liv best dps lol

[@Lace]

and thats perfectly fine!!

[@hanz101]

We out here trying to play smart.

[@Lace]

thank you :)

[@jsuperhalo1]

Is coop worth doing?

[@Lace]

not right now, focus on pushing story

[@falseprophecy8903]

Bro what emulator are you using

[@Lace]

i'm using Mumu i'll talk about this in a video shortly

[@k45oz29]

Rip me then I used Darwin to get my last cotie for full set on Bianca

[@Lace]

its okay, its not a permanent thing

[@galang1040]

When you think having 1mil+ cog making you rich. You already lost

[@Lace]

so true..

[@arkusuwilliams7697]

Play Smart Baby! WHY DO I KEEP PICKING UP THOSE NEW GACHA GAMES AHHHHHHH

[@Lace]

bro thats what i ask myself.

[@xCritStar]

play smart pog

[@Lace]

thank you :)

[@mikicoffeesquad3181]

I just wana use Lotus and make it stronger but...is not that good...its sad, lol. (Why other copy of her is so good compare to first one...)

[@Lace]

such is the life of starter units :(

[@RaidThren]

PLAY SMART!!!!

[@karlmandanas5695]

I get hanna

[@robbiebubble3670]

Hey! Enjoying your videos and I appreciate how responsive you are compared to some other YTers out there! By any chance do you know which list he's talking about in this video? I don't understand the name and I can't find it randomly kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5itmWeGm9NpkLM

[@nanaisbae9272]

play smart!

[@Lace]

thank you!

[@FurosutoJouku]

The game won't even let me delete my Account. LOL. I end up getting all 3 Livs. 😂😂😂😂

[@Lace]

wtf lol congrats

[@adambenhalid665]

Play smart u guys :)

[@satou93d35]

n theres me that use all 3 attacker...lels

[@Lace]

screw it man if its working for you, it's working for you

[@splitcryptic]

Play smart, don't fart.

[@dom7899]

nice 1200 power xD

[@Lace]

wtf

[@Fray253]

Play smart thanks

[@Lace]

thank you for watching

[@jimjimc9653]

Play Smart

[@ljjlljjl9212]

play smart

[@Lace]

thank you :)

[@meermunchy9689]

Play smarter not harder

[@Lace]

that's the idea!

[@hdphidd_gaming]

#Play_Smart

[@Lace]

thank you!

[@hdphidd_gaming]

Your welcome 🙏

[@vinnylegend11]

Play smart 😉

[@Lace]

thank you!

[@Petterkopp]

Play smart

[@rhue2532]

*Unga bunga stops*

[@Lace]

thats right, stop it right now

[@chinesefo0d811]

Play smart, lol

[@justinedancalan2953]

I got darwin then I put it on my alpha then 2* and 4* patton is it good build on alpha?

[@Lace]

yeah i would run 2x darwin, 4x patton, patton 4, 5, 6, then 1 on top

[@derColt]

play smart

[@Lace]

thank you!

[@OnlyOne488]

Play smart

[@soraactualize5464]

play smart

[@Lace]

thank you!

[@cheahfeng4433]

play smart

[@Lace]

thank you

[@pansanban]

Play smart

[@Lace]

thank you very much

[@dissttrixyt619]

Play smart

[@Lace]

thank you very much!

[@Gloria-vm1jc]

Play smart

[@Lace]

thank you so much