I was (Slightly) Wrong about Limbus Company

[@janse1060]

Limbus fans watching a tutorial/review for their game for a 100th time

[@daan_long]

All Limbus fans... are destined to watch all Limbus review

[@qaztim11]

Project moon sleeper agents are trained like Pavlov's dog

[@Amirrorofmirrors]

It is very fun to watch other people discover project moon. I would have never expected that some random Korean indie game I’ve never heard of in my life would take over my life for the next like 1.5 years and counting. Watching other people make that same realization is truly entertaining.

[@torque8047]

I mostly here just to listen to criticism so I can keep my brainrot in check

[@Opim981]

Had to watch some 20 min vid cuz no ingame tutorial😂

[@averyraresnom2451]

Having a game treat me like I’m an adult with reading comprehension and not feeding me the information like a baby like genshin and also having characters that are built up to be likable and not just dropped off traits that are good and wow heroic instead we have a bunch of misfits, which is hella relatable, and having a story and world that fucking goes so hard that most other games wouldn’t even step a single foot in.

[@niksoncutts]

That's one of my favorite parts about Limbus, all the dialogue has meaning and doesn't take three hundred years of lore dumping to get through. Other gacha games are like we MUST tell you about the ENTIRE HISTORY of this region and its people whenever anyone speaks, but Limbus just.....delivers the plot.

[@Redheart709]

i think that's my main reason why i love limbus. the characters are flawed in so many ways and are unabashedly allowed to be. i did like genshin and i do like wuwa but give my characters some flaws please!!! make them bad people or just flawed people! biggest time they've ever dropped the ball was furina in which i love her and i love her story but the end conclusion being that she did nothing wrong ever felt just a little bit unsatisfying, and there are many such cases of this!!

[@mitacestalia7532]

yeah, limbus just hit me in the right place. good characters, darker story and difficult game.

[@anthonynguyen2661]

i miss my reading comprehension pre project moon fan days

[@TomoLamp]

​@@niksoncuttsi like that limbus uses Dantes Notes to give us newbies a view into the city

[@RandomlyAwesomeGamer]

One funny thing to note in regards to "If they wanted a hardcore game project moon shouldn't have made it a gacha" is that Limbus is literally only a gatcha because PM ran out of money and it was a last ditch effort to keep the studio afloat + fund the next game.(Though limbus seems to have absorbed the 'next game' into itself over time.) This was explicitly admitted during development/the announcement.

[@ryominto]

that's a shame, really, I can see many ideas being dead just because of this game being a gacha, almost want to cry

[@RukiaChinq]

Hope we still get Lobcorp 2 + other PM games

[@ryominto]

@@RukiaChinq nah bro 10 years is a long wait, and since KJH doesn't want to expand his team, there is little to no chance for us of seeing any new game before that

[@jasonZoo123]

Kim says that they don't have time or resource for another game. So Limbus essentially the only thing they're focusing on developing rn. At first it was to fund their game.... but it got too big to leave out lol. I hope they're secretly still developing it tho.

[@blehh_mae]

@@ryominto i dont really see any ideas being dead due to it being a gacha

[@mrmadman8460]

Bro really did lament through patches of broken wings with his compass swallowed by the sea

[@ryominto]

the multitude tightens this comment

[@noahi.1381]

Dont forget he jumped between two worlds of PeakMoon quality

[@blankslate3832]

This truly is the time of the year, a very so merry night we hold dear.

[@BlowBow2]

But when will his dream end?

[@ชิษณุพงศ์4]

don't forget between two world

[@alistairleonhart3925]

The skill issue was turned into a skill opportunity, you have passed the Project Moon Fan initiation

[@mitacestalia7532]

I'm using this quote later

[@panjinurfadillah2489]

We Shall Watch You With Great Interests

[@stellarischloride7522]

Luck correlates with skill

[@xthax0511]

peak

[@tcchu4766]

"Let's face it, most of you watching this are long-time Limbus players" He just fucking called all of us out, huh?

[@panjinurfadillah2489]

It's not hard too see how lobotomy the fanbase is, I've a post with the word "Wuthering" In it, and the whole comment has been raided by Project moon fans.

[@nunyabusiness3652]

​​@@panjinurfadillah2489 I remember seeing a post where the guy was like, "I've been scam, the waves did not wuther" and the entirety of the replies were "did you try the heights" and Erkling Healthcliff. I love this repost, and the exact quote "The way the limbus fandom turned wuthering heights references into just limbus references like imagine someone who doesn't play limbus looks at the wuthering heights references theyd be like "oh haha the gothic novel by emily bronte who the fuck is erlking heathcliff"

[@panjinurfadillah2489]

@@nunyabusiness3652 another one when someone say "I'll Turn You Into A Fine Red Mist" And the comment is just filler with "The red what?!" And Kali

[@Levyafan]

11:05 One of Limbus Company's primary perks in terms of gacha is that it manages to overcome the character bloat by just... restricting you to your twelve guys. That's your entire playable cast. You do not draw any new guys from the gacha - rather, you draw alternate universe versions of your 12 guys (though, of course, some of them are based on the characters you meet in the plot). Because of that, it doesn't NEED to turn plot into character advertisements, it doesn't NEED to tell you the character's entire deal; it can take its sweet time setting them up, giving you foewshadowing, and having you guessing about what the FUCK their entire deal is. Instead of creating a bloated BREADTH of characters, Limbus gacha provides a layer of DEPTH by not only providing extra worldbuilding, but also showcasing you various facets of your ever-present 12 guys. How would they behave if they were an employee in an overworked assassin guild? How would a straightforward guy who doesn't like being sneaky fit in? Could he, perhaps, fare better in a detective guild, or as a harpooner on a ship that hunts terrifying beasts? A timid boy escaped the fate of being recruited by a violent cult leader who massacred his family - what if she succeeded? What kind of headspace would he have after being coaxed to do the deed himself? Why would a big taciturn frenchman become a rapier-wielding livestreamer? All of these examples are actually in the game, I did not make them up.

[@dormitory650]

THE CINQ MEURSAULT ONE!!! i believe it's moreso that it plays into him being like. watched by people, something something the multitude tightens its hold (no really) like he was watched in the court, having all of his flaws and perceived misdeeds picked apart by the jury so having so many eyes on him is pretty significant to his themes and character (see chains of others)

[@luckyalvin3947]

You're talking about Heathcliff, Sinclair, and Meursault consecutively

[@jled787]

Hey chat, is this real?

[@theprofesser944]

i do like how they handled the cast. punishing grey raven did a similar thing with giving the characters new combat frames every update.

[@Nik0__]

@@dormitory650the egos having something to do with their pasts along with their identities giving traces of it is just god tier and keeps me playing no matter how hard the boss is, because goddamn what happened to merusalt bro i need to know

[@Lonaticus]

Instructions unclear. Heathcliff hit me with the bodysack instead.

[@Gato-ih1yv]

You mean his sack?

[@april-2nd]

Instructions unclear. Heathcliff hit me with a Coffin

[@semodemo0159]

@@april-2nd instructions unclear heatcliff body slammed me while being a furry

[@cakeisfakes]

@@semodemo0159 Instructions unclear. Heathcliff hit me on a head with his metal bat

[@panjinurfadillah2489]

​@@cakeisfakesInstructions unclear. Heathcliff put me inside an Iron Maiden

[@Sloshmael_Sweep]

Yeah I also beat Kim with sinking, felt like I was about to distort for a second

[@mao38]

Begging yi sang to roll that 3rd skill before everyone's bones get claimed...

[@dark-yato]

I didn't even know he worked like that 😭, I brute-forced with a sinking team

[@tylerulfmann4586]

@@dark-yatothe funny thing is that if you build chain of others it’s possible Though it’s a very nasty dps race or dodge spam

[@fincrocs]

Not me who tanked it and got left 3 people with 20~ health, 2 staggered and 1 dead. I won it by winning the next clashes. This was a week ago

[@swagb9149]

I ungan bunga Kim and power through it by trading

[@savarinn1962]

A small thing about the luxcavations. You don't earn only 50% rewards, it's actually 50% EXTRA rewards to make up for the extra energy used for it. So if you get two xp tickets normally, you'd get three instead.

[@neloberry9476]

Yes He may have worded it wrong but it still punishes you because 150% instead of 200% when you skip since you use 2 runs worth of modules!!! I hope my wording was clear take care have a good day! (:

[@JakeGilz]

​@neloberry9476 But for people with 500+ modules, and grind MD a lot. I don't think they mind the inefficient. If I have that many modules, I'll gladly skip them.

[@caellanmurphy4751]

@@neloberry9476 tbf THREAD LUX feels alot nicer than exp lux since the 50% is also factored into the daily bonuses

[@simplyeyeronic1443]

Thread lux skipping ultimately breaks dead even when considering daily breakpoints

[@riverajustinmarks.]

@@neloberry9476 yeah I recommend skipping more on the threads luxcavation so that the 3 dailies also increases the amount the bonus 50% gives.

[@m1tl4y0tl]

Ah yes the infamous project moon's "vertical difficulty spike"

[@fluffhead7722]

I'm surprised he didn't bring up ricardo first

[@duyanhbui5386]

dificult just take a generalist slash or any team and he could no dif kim or fucking use ego to win by borrow form fiend

[@m1tl4y0tl]

@@duyanhbui5386 i mean that every project moon game tends to have a difficulty spike so sudden its infamous, like Lob Corp's days 20 to above or LoR's magical girls

[@duyanhbui5386]

​@@m1tl4y0tlruina got nerf to the ground no fight are that hard when floor of technology existed

[@deividymario2408]

@@fluffhead7722 But Ricardo is easy, Ricardo is just a scripted loss.

[@deedeedee5866]

Of course he plays a sinking team against Kim

[@HelterwithoutSkelter]

if it works it works yknow

[@AndroidSLC]

the sufferings never end

[@Ragazaloth]

Hey man, if it works it works. Seeing him actually brute force Kim was cathartic for me. SCREW YOUR GIMMICK, TAKE THIS COFFIN INSTEAD!

[@TheUnicornChicken]

Season 4 new starters moment

[@boi8328]

Sinking actually benefitting Kim's negative coins? Just clash harder, dummy.

[@Zhaelph]

I gotta say Heathcliffs canto is what cemented this game's story as one of the best out there, and what got me locked in for the entire ride. As a psychologist his portrayal of an inferiority complex is extremely well made, it's not always a meek, submissive feeling, and Heathcliff just like in the books is a prime exemple of it; Honestly? It's just peak.

[@tylerulfmann4586]

The mili song through violets was excellent as well which I feel like she always adds the extra kick the visuals and gameplay need to sell the level as well

[@judehanma]

I must be the reason why

[@Ilikegames804]

@@judehanmaYou have given up your smile

[@mitacestalia7532]

and the hope inside your eyes, have been stolen

[@LlNDAMEA]

I must be the reason why

[@sticc.5483]

0:16 Wuthering? As in… Wuthering Heights…? Catherine….

[@panjinurfadillah2489]

Who is Catherine?

[@acone2017]

who is catherine

[@TankCatPlush]

Whos ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜??? I've never heard that name

[@stephaniejanong4146]

I dunno guys, maybe she's someone OC? I've never heard of her before,,

[@sayospecter6731]

Probably a Leviathan supporting character idk

[@MrZalgo-ml2iw]

PM actually resolved the whole issue with difficulty recently since they included a unique system called Chain Battles, where when a Sinner dies, they get replaced by a different sinner in backup. This allows for a lot of room for error and gives PM more breathing room as to how they design fights. Their is one particular fight in Canto 7 that takes advantage of the new system and the whole fight is both incredibly difficult but very fair at the same time to players.

[@tylerulfmann4586]

It’s a neat system that allows a significant more margin for error Though I still wished the dead sinners provided a bit of sin resources for the reinforcement Then again removing the SP cost for death as long as there is one more in the chain is already a significant help option

[@franciscoreza8295]

And not to mention it is lore accurate, you see how in most fights they always jumps as 12 people all of them fighting.

[@Aiden-lp1xq]

My face when attack weight +2 unbreakable coin 😮😮😮😮😮

[@dep7910]

At the same time, chain battles only exacerbate the issue of grinding even further. Sure you don’t need to have all 12 of your sinners be up to level, but it’s still more tickets you have to farm to make good enough use of the mechanic. Hopefully Pmoon continues to add more ways to farm necessary resources, since it’s still a pretty big grind fest even with the change to leveling and improved luxcavations (changes that a new player won’t even get to feel until canto 7 anyways lmao)

[@ryominto]

​@@dep7910the last part is crucial, like by the time "new" player gets to 7th canto he is by no means can't be considered a new one, however seeing how with every new canto all the previous ones are becoming winratable and speedrunnable no wonder that even at 7th canto some call themselves "new". Well, PM makes a trap for themselves by "helping" new players to catch up as fast as possible and thus making them having much less resources than all the other players

[@yoriavila4308]

A single player game with a gacha haphazardly slapped on it. Perfect description for this game that I love (and hate at times because RNG won't give me Spider Ryoshu-). *Did I just hear Gregor Slander-*

[@dethstrider6]

14:30 LIU GREGOR BEST GREGOR

[@panjinurfadillah2489]

Guess because he didn't have Solemn Lament E.G.O, which probably the best ego for Edgar Family Heir

[@stephaniejanong4146]

NOT THE SPIDER RYOSHU 😭😭😭 I also didn't get her from last walpurg,,,,

[@goldenweed1993]

About the support system, well, there is one. You can borrow your friend's ID's for a stage if you want to. Although it is poorly explained, so not surprising it's not a common knowledge

[@luckyalvin3947]

Don't bring it into Canto VII dungeon, it's bugged for the moment.

[@UNTHESUNTHESUNTHES]

Can't believe bro completely missed the support system 😭

[@sidekic1109]

Yeah I thought that was really funny, there IS a friend support system, it's the exact same as FGO/Arknights as far as I know

[@Kos_Mos42]

I first discovered it during Ishmael's Canto; all this time I was using my sinner's, who are uptie and max level with the Ego's to III all I could do is borrow a ID that I don't have and be happy with it. Though, I do kinda feel jealous that my friend's have Ring ID Yi-sang and Captain Ishmael on their support list, spent so much to get but none answered oof-

[@alexlittlewoods]

dantehh, your back, dantehh

[@panjinurfadillah2489]

Complete mirror dungeon dantehh

[@Dan-bn4nm]

Go back to the mirror dungeon now, danteh... Do your weekly MDH, danteh...

[@dark-yato]

Do your dailies dantehhh

[@Ken-lv4ww]

Danteh stop watching KZbin videos from another world danteh

[@greedfreed6970]

don't forget to convert your Enka Dantehh

[@ThrashRats]

Just a little extra info, Refraction Railways are independent of their Canto/Season, they are open until the next RR comes around.

[@GrindyVine]

Same goes for MD

[@Z9sb2yd8zj2]

Love these updates showing how no one is hundred percent accurate and glad

[@izzymosley1970]

Even though I don't play gacha games I don't think it's a bad thing for a gacha game to be difficult it seems like an unnecessary limitation to the genre to keep all gacha games casual.

[@victorpedrosoceolin3919]

People don't like to struggle, to put it simply And people who don't like, don't come back to try, and that's potential revenue that may never come back

[@tylerulfmann4586]

I don’t mind difficulty it’s more not all archetypes are created equal in terms of utility and sustain Some are better then others which equals the bigger frustration You can’t get some of the earlier season content to be able to use their conditionals mostly the first season which isn’t totally surprising But it can be vexing granted as long as you can get the season pass You can usually just grind out a new archetype pick every other week which is nice

[@frido7939]

gacha game being hard is not bad thing, but if the story or progression is being gated by hard stuff it will be a problem. PM decision to gatekeep you from accessing events or .5 is kinda silly for me, its like if in arknight you just started the game reach chapter 4 and there are new anniversary event but you cannot access before finishing chapter 13

[@adamxue6096]

@@frido7939 This is some really hilarious call out at FGO as well which amuses me

[@monkey_blu]

It's a dangerous balance to make. Nobody would care if a game mode is hard and basically only for whales but if it's even hard for something as mundane as the story or event progression it would be seen as a very cynical and aggressive attempt to make the players roll for the new, shiny and obviously taylor-made character that makes the stage/event piss easy. I know Limbus doesn't do this exactly but many people don't like seeing this kind of difficulty spike in a gacha of all things.

[@All_Night]

We have been summoned once again. I heard that Gregor sland--

[@darksoulsismycity]

Suddenly, one day... my EGO... had been slandered...

[@funniloneliboi]

He didn’t have Solemn Lament so that’s why :P

[@Ilikegames804]

He didn’t have peak it’s excusable for now

[@Ivan-de2ov]

The Gregor slander shall not appear anymore cause the Priest Gregor gane come let's goooo

[@mao38]

Back when Sunshower Yi Sang was released it was busted but instead of nerfing it they basically decided to just make it take more sanity while also upping it all the way to a WAW ego

[@victorpedrosoceolin3919]

Which was even better, because now he can use he ego without sacrificing sunshower

[@mitacestalia7532]

it's good choice. the ego is indeed busted

[@RukiaChinq]

Yi Sang, Ryōshū, and Ishmael are 3 of the most consistent sinners in the game for having strong IDs and ego, I’ve noticed.

[@Wild-HuntHeathcliff]

@@RukiaChinq No... Its, totally meursault.

[@daboss4318]

@@Wild-HuntHeathcliff Only bl meursalt can be considered broken as id, tho meursalt egos are nice

[@obsessionsofthevoid]

5:34 The only reason Limbus is a gacha is because they're using the cash they get from Limbus to fund their other games

[@KopaczDziur]

Yeah, give them around 5 more years and maybe, just maybe there'll be a new game.

[@ryominto]

​@@KopaczDziurlimbus is said to have 10 years so big doubt

[@Barbecuquence]

Given that Limbus is requiring all 45 of the dev staff to maintain and update, it will be difficult for there be new PM games; unless as Kim JiHoon said, collaborating with other game studios

[@AlphaHydrod]

BRO CAN READ 🗣🗣🗣

[@kyotheman69]

yet he didn't read additional rewards lol i get comment is sarcasm, still funny

[@AlphaHydrod]

​@@kyotheman69 I just saying you wouldn't catch me using a sinking team on Kim if I could use literally anything else. A win is a win though. We like seeing strategy here.

[@Wild-HuntHeathcliff]

One thing i gotta say... Limbus is much easier than it looks. Imma leave it at that.

[@quackquack8775]

You didn't play rr2 did you

[@Wild-HuntHeathcliff]

@@quackquack8775 No😭, but rr2 isn't even mentioned in any of his videos, and its not playable either so like...

[@eleuuuuu]

All my homies HATE rr2 Really had to cycle through those bosses again and again like dang... rr3 and rr4 were so much easier too 😂

[@Wild-HuntHeathcliff]

@@eleuuuuu I didn't even have a proper team at the time, no ego's, underleveled id's, and got 101 on rr3 first attempt, rr4 is even easier...

[@mitacestalia7532]

​@@quackquack8775Oh God, RR2 is pure nightmare. I like Sign of Rose boss fight but fighting so no one will cry for the fifth times really bring down my sanity

[@c-domination]

Its not about Limb-you or Limb-me, Pseychie. Its about Limb-Us!

[@panjinurfadillah2489]

Limb-ussy

[@mew8941]

welcome back to peakbus company. Canto 7 finishes this week, good luck with the content (be ready for the difficulty spike)

[@panjinurfadillah2489]

Bassicly every new canto we have to face the difficulty spike, at this point I'm not surprise if Kim Jihoon make a uptie 5 to enhance the power level. and then make it still have difficulty spike

[@Caliban743]

Limbus is a gacha but they forget to make a gacha and made a real game

[@tahraki4918]

Glory to Project Moon!

[@tylerulfmann4586]

I do still miss attribution

[@KopaczDziur]

I'd rather call it a live-service game, which while better is still more of homonculus as oppossed to a real game

[@crowraterohale]

Yeah, but Library of Ruina exists and is actually a "real" game. (I hate this negative connotation that gacha games are not considered real games when games like Genshin Impact dunk on the majority of AAA games released nowadays in terms of love and quality given)

[@GolgothianSylex]

​@@crowraterohale AAA development is kinda dead(really liked Alan Wake 2 though). Indie stuff or something around Yoko Taro's budget is still much better than Genshin, and I'm not even a real Genshin hater.

[@usmansubhani7482]

10:55 I get what you mean. Everyone being fundamentally good people is boring. Honestly, that’s the reason I dropped WuWa despite the generosity shown. It’s just not interesting when I know they have good intentions from beginning to end and baddies are baddies. Writing gets too simple.

[@VietDang-yk1yt]

Kinda had a similar experience with Hsr and Limbus, Hsr also is not afraid to have an initially unlikeable gacha character, but said character became one of the most beloved through how his story is presented. His personality is still kinda scummy, but he has a lot of depth that people enjoy seeing.

[@sb18wlc]

Fr... I still play Wuwa for the gameplay but story-wise it got so abhorently disappointing, I fail to see why they had to change their original vision(CBT1) for the "harem anime" they're making with the current one, I don't think it's plain terrible just disappointing AF.

[@mitacestalia7532]

yeah, there's a reason why i only play one hoyo game but play limbus because i need that total different mechanic gameplay and story.

[@Merotryz]

@@VietDang-yk1yt Nah HSR still has a lot of problems its story.

[@VietDang-yk1yt]

@@Merotryz yeah the characters have a tendency to ramble, i mostly play because of the cosmic horror worldbuilding

[@Mimiro-m2g]

5:10 yeah alot of people are complaining about difficulty... about the game being too easy lol

[@profdinding6455]

Yeah man, for new players it's probably due to the complexity of game mechanics but once they get their IDs and level them up, it's smooth sailing (with some noticeable bumps). But for us oldies, it's just a matter of time to beat the fights in the game, that's why I kept my sinners at 5 levels below the new level cap increase as I progressed through the new canto. Saves me some tickets for new IDs too.

[@AlterGS4993]

And lets be honest. Between those that complain about it being “tOo HaRd” there’s a big ammount of them that just winrate ABSOLUTE EVERYTHING anyways.

[@maslinostrel1411]

​@@profdinding6455yeah, kinda sad that i waited for half a year only to finish new canto in 3 days. The only fight i had real problems with was pequidot trio i think.

[@maslinostrel1411]

But still, the story is truly peak

[@maslinostrel1411]

I also realy like introduction of unbreakable coins to the game. Makes game play a bit less stable and more fun

[@pizzascaf]

project moon was always more focused on the community than money you can see that back in the days of lobotomy corp, project moon was listening and interacting with the community this reflects to limbus company they only make you pay money to get something faster (battle pass egos being available next season ect.)

[@blandscape5242]

I think one of the biggest appeals of limbus IS the difficulty because compared to most gacha games where you pick the most broken units and win, even if you pick the strongest units in limbus you still need to actively engage with the mechanics or else you will get folded. Best example is the 7-34 boss where you literally can’t just throw all your best units at her but actually have to read her passives through the fight just like ruina

[@ClaireCrayon]

what are you talking about?? 7-38 isn't even out yet

[@shardtherox]

@@ClaireCrayonhe is a prophet trust me

[@ИльяКривошей-й5п]

Nah. If you actually talking about 7-34 it's very easy to cheese with rapture. I've killed her without losses and almost without interacting with her mechanics. Instead you need to think about building and mainlining rapture stack.

[@erikam9387]

@@ИльяКривошей-й5пok but playing rupture is kinda harder than playing the boss gimmick anyways

[@TorManiak]

@@ИльяКривошей-й5п Nope, they're right. Rupture only works if you have the units that make its count work properly, and not everyone has those specific units even by that point. So in most cases it's more difficult(though not by too much, you just need to read to make it easier).

[@Z-.869]

14:54 Just a note: Refraction railway content does not end with the season itself, its more its own thing rather than being tied to the season, the current railway (RR4) will only end once the new railway comes. The only that is limited to the season in railway is the special effect banner and ticket you get if you complete the railway under 100 turns, the rest of the rewards do not change.

[@terq8370]

It's still a seasonal thing: it gives 10 pull with guaranteed seasonal S-rank; it has special reward for beating before season ends. But, like mirror dungeon, it changes later during season. So returning at season start players could take a chance to beat rr (it also becomes easier because of new lvl cap).

[@justafurry9400]

Oh boy i NEED to hear this man's thoughts on Canto 7 now. Because it was the MOST PEAK I'VE SEEN. Mostly about what he thinks about the difficulty of it and how beautiful the story is. Because the difficulty brings me back to getting absolutely touched in Library Of Ruina, and the story was enough to make me tear up.

[@rearedlogarithm]

Speaking of barriers to enjoy a game, this is the main reason why Nikke is pretty scummy: by the time you get to chapter 15 you are capped in progress by your character levels, which cannot progress past 160 without having five SSR characters limit broken three times. You can struggle to chapter 18 because the game provides three level 200 support characters, but if you want to go any further you either have to wait several months to get the characters to level 200 or bring out your credit card.

[@martinrubin6406]

Think the 160 wall is a bit 50/50 if ppl find it to be problematic or not, i had some luck with it, was stuck at that wall for about little less then 1 month, while i did spend on the monthly gems pass, i also did not really calculate how i should get pas that wall. but you either need to plan for the wall, something new players will find hard, or you just have to get good (Lucky with the pulls), neither is not really optimal.

[@Nekotik]

Massive skill issue tbh, for one, people are beating 21-32 without passing the wall, and two, passing the wall is mostly about resource management and not luck. If you get lucky on top of spending resources well, you can pass it instalty, otherwise, you'd get stuck for a month, two at worst.

[@Parelf]

Nikke blacklisted. Thanks

[@Violet_Erin]

Every gacha game is scummy my friend 🫡

[@SuperAlatreon-2]

This is straight up false tho; yes the 160 wall can be frustrating for players who never watch creator guides or learn how to manage resources, but it absolutely DOES NOT hard cap you at a certain point in the story. One of the main things you got wrong is you DON'T actually need to max limit break 5 SRR units to get past lvl 160, this is a common misunderstanding of the mechanic. Getting just ONE character to Limit Break 3 lets you continue level that character up until 200, which means you could have a team of 5 SSR's where 4 of them are level 200 and your fifth is level 199 and you're much stronger and gotten much farther in the story, but haven't 'technically' gotten past the wall yet. The real wall is getting 5 SSR's to level 200 at which point you unlock a new feature in the Synchro to spend red cores to lvl 201+.

[@GrEzra]

On the subject of assist mechanics if you are limbus friends with someone you can borrow one of their ID’s which can be a big help if you just need one more id for a team or just a generally strong id to help make it through something

[@ericquiabazza2608]

Project moon is know as: -Expectacular writting in both events and characters -Gamplay is CANON -Spaguetti code -SHIT TUTORIAL And this is standar since DAY 1 On that, Canto 1-3 (known as season 1) is weak because is the Introduction chapter, or chapter 1. Its objective is stablish Setting, characters and Villans. 1- you are dante, you revive this gubers 2- they are murder hobos with trauma 3- we have mind shit that bends reality 4- there is 3 main "rival" factions: Herman gang, which are basicly folds to the main characters Yurodivie, the communist Blue Gang, reality benders on a power trip That is why canto 4 is the first Canto with a proper Finale and "Revelation" for its selected character, and why people find the first 3 as "incomplete" Remember, this game is projected to be 10 years minimum

[@Lackingcreativityforpfp]

Where is it said that this game is projected at least 10 years minimum?

[@panjinurfadillah2489]

​@@LackingcreativityforpfpThat's probably due to the game having 12 sinners and each one having a whole canto dedicating to that characters(Maybe even a Dante and Vergilius focus canto would also count with them not Entirely explored yet) is just *Long* but it feels natural instead of the sinners feels restricted, We see them go freely like Don Quixote screwing the mission like 3 times in diferent canto until vergilius humble her. So it's safe to say this game will last awhile, gacha game is not dying after like 2 years. the marketing, the gameplay, E.G.O, and just so much stuffs even like story outside Limbus Company like Leviathan(Vergilius backstory) and the fact that this is the *biggest* game PM made, they will focus all the efforts onto Limbus.

[@cnarfrat1911]

I think hard gacha games are fine. I believe Limbus gives players more than enough help and info to beat any boss with the main sinner IDs, so I think giving powers like fully healing your team would be too overpowered. At that point, you might as well just watch KZbin videos of the story (which is totally fine if you don't enjoy the gameplay or find it difficult).

[@panjinurfadillah2489]

For the new player its just *Win Rate*

[@chineseobama6043]

​@@panjinurfadillah2489 having picked up the game at the last week of October this is true and it wasn't until a certain canto iv boss that the game was in any form difficult

[@Superflaming85]

I think the biggest issue with Limbus' difficulty is actually the grindy issue you talked about. Keeping IDs on-level is remarkably tricky, and I still don't have a functional team of each archetype despite being a day 1 player. (Which means I'm working with all the limited event, RR, and Battle Pass resources that new players don't and can't get) The game's difficult fights expect you to have a variety of IDs built, and it is not afraid to throw things at you that are explicitly bad for certain types of ID. And it's hard enough for newer players to keep one team on-level, let alone having to build an entire second one, especially since the EXP luxcavation stages are story-locked. Things have gotten better thanks to the new/returning player rewards, the level 45-50 EXP curve, and the Canto 7 Luxcavation releasing before the actually hard fights in the season, but it's still very much not great, and I hope they increase EXP income more somehow.

[@tylerulfmann4586]

There was a couple updates about increasing the average of exp tickets so leveling would be a lot more level In the current implementation it costs quite a lot of modules still for a team I think I burned through about 50-70 for my second team It’s nice you get an archetype effectively for free if you fill out a season pass worth of XP But I still feel it’s definitely a solid commitment and your probably gonna pick out 2-3 teams to really specialize into it On a lighter note the thread up by about 20 percent was a really solid improvement

[@Dr0dd]

really would appreciate if Dungeon and daily fights at least gave additional exp to characters like the story fights do.

[@codebreaker1o119]

I think it's a matter of keeping what you wanna play up to date. I actually think the biggest problem is that new players trying the game can play comfortabley for first 4-5 cantos or so but then get absolutely smashed for not having enough id's or resources. I think having some welfare stuff in each canto or intervello would help new player trying to catchup. The newest boss really showcases this in that most of the people struggling are people who don't have id's to use the chain battle to it's fullest.

[@mach3676]

6:40 The Luxcavations for threads give more if you skip them with bonuses though. That's what I would usually do for dailies then do normal exp luxcavations.

[@haryok8940]

Its still better to play normally if you have time for that, skipping only gives 1.5x rewards for 2x cost, which is clearly inefficient

[@Duarte_GB]

It's not more, they give you the same value. With bonus on threads skipping gives you the same as doing 1 bonus lux and 1 non bonus lux. So skipping 3 times is like doing 3 bonus luxes and 3 non bonus luxes. This is less efficient on modules still because you don't have much reason to do luxes without the bonus and you did the equivalent of 3 of them, however, its completly fine if you're not min maxing and not that big of an issue. It's still 75% effiecient if I rememeber correctly. The exp lux should be done manually anyways to get the daily bonus of killing enemies and it can be winrated most of the time.

[@terq8370]

@@haryok8940 Imo skipping THREADS is efficient. They're limited by daily bonus rewards and doing it manually at least once takes a while with any team. And they still cost 2/4 modules per run/skip unlike exp luxcavations that cost 3/6 now and are much faster (and can be winrated because winrating in focused encounters SUCKS). And 1 module is 1 hour of wait so 12 modules a day out of 24 (in case you don't refresh with lunacy) shouldn't be THAT conserning unless you die hard md slave.

[@mach3676]

@@haryok8940lemme rephrase my comment. The thread lux is more worth it if you skip since you only have 3 bonuses per day and skipping gives you 1.5x more rewards. Whilst the exp lux is better if you just do them normally. So what I would do is just skip threads 3 times for the bonus and do exp normally to do my pass dailies.

[@GameBooAdvancePlus]

Limbus Company makes a lot of money relative to other gachas solely because Project Moon is self-owned and self-published. Reportibly they have made enough money on Limbus so far to safely run the company at a loss for 3-5 years should that happen. I think thats pretty impressive and representative of what a good community can do.

[@Uurva]

And project moon only has around 45 staff + 7 hamhampangpang staff which was formerly an university club

[@Nik0__]

Ngl if they needed money the entire fandom would go into dept for them

[@simplyrem779]

I feel like most people that quit genshin are people who are SUPER invested into gachas and are really really otaku and nerd centric (aka complete opposite of normies). I was EASILY able to get my friends, sister and girlfriend to play genshin, some still play to this day, but I showed them epic seven and reverse1999 and they couldn't care to even download them (I'm not even going to mention Nikke to them...).

[@midnighteclipsed2738]

why you showed them epic seven dawg, that game is hell XD, i swear playing FGO is better than Epic Seven, at least i dont smack my table after getting a final roll on a subset

[@the7blargs]

I got tired of how slow everything feels. Exploring, grinding, and overly bloated dialogue. I enjoyed parts of the story but not all. I quit after the main Fontaine story and moved on to Wuthering Waves for my open world gacha. Everything feels faster to me and it has combat that's somewhat like devil may cry. But ill admit the story doesn't draw me in that much either.

[@xtriq6]

Reverse1999 is super cool, I need to get back to playing it

[@simplyrem779]

@@midnighteclipsed2738 I showed them the cool cutscene animations. They actually really like those, but everything else about the game looked unfun to them

[@jojomicheldu59]

Genshin's popularity needs to be studied. It's really confusing to see such a game because massively popular among normies, while they show no interest towards other similar games

[@simonnikonov2577]

3:23 Man just became project moon fan, and instantly lost ability to read, we are not beating allegations

[@panjinurfadillah2489]

The two types of Project Moon fan, those who can read and those who can't read. Most can't read.

[@Pranaya_Razzaq]

@@panjinurfadillah2489 third type : those who knows 😈💀

[@Nik0__]

@@panjinurfadillah2489 i skim it half the time and just get my brother to read,atleast one of us can🥲

[@ocarinalover1214]

New Player experience isn't the best. You know something needs tweaking if most of the community points you to a video made by a well-established Limbus Company youtuber for a tutorial instead of the game itself. (ESGOO shoutout!!!!)

[@tylerulfmann4586]

I do wish there was a few tutorial levels for about 40 lunacy each Or a infinite punching bag that allows the player to try out different combinations to gauge how long ego takes to get out on the field and if the resonance of attacks are worthwhile Defense offset Counter through bleed effects Attack weight manipulation General nails application Paralysis and negative coin effects Negative coins and coin strengthening through the removal of negative coins in a clash at high SP These things would be nice to know instead of “lol get gud nerd”

[@ocarinalover1214]

@@tylerulfmann4586 i played through a whole season without knowing what offset was. i totally feel that. the first difficulty spike that killed me canto V

[@crowraterohale]

In my experience, Reverse1999 is the only turn-based gacha game I've played that actually delves deep into its mechanics in their tutorial system. They even test you after the demonstrations to see if you've learned anything. If you fail to do the mechanics properly, the enemies just 1-shot you to death during the tests. By the time you're finished with R1999's tutorial, you are already well equipped with the knowledge about the game's mechanics without needing to watch any external videos anymore.

[@ryominto]

​@@crowraterohaleagree, I really liked this part, and I actually see this being implemented in Limbus somewhere in the beginning without being torn out from the lore, like training in a special room or smth.

[@stephaniejanong4146]

​​​@@ryominto the Company couldn't bother to waste additional resources to train the new hires, average city experience lololol /joke

[@ggpoh4925]

Half of this video means nothing if you can stop equating "gacha game" with casual game. The only reason Limbus is a gacha is to fund other PM projects instead of crowdfunding them as usual. You can literally just buy the limbus pass and farm for every identity in the game besides the Walpurgisnacht ones, which you can get by just saving the lunacy you get weekly. You can get everything for 10€ and some play time every 5 months or so.

[@TheNrat]

That is literally what gacha or live service games do for companies in general not just pm

[@ggpoh4925]

@TheNrat Not really. Live service, maybe. But gacha games specifically look to make a big profit off of the system.

[@Depression_timelost]

fun fact: everything in the game is doable with the base IDs and EGOs

[@damianxi4133]

Problem is that, it required people to read and think for more than a minute, which is very hard for most gacha players.

[@tylerulfmann4586]

@@damianxi4133I mean if you get bad heads hit your gonna get sent to Jesus anyway Sinking teams and charge teams entire gimmick is to manipulate coin power to avoid resetting 1limbillion times

[@victorvirgili4447]

@@damianxi4133Especially for PM fans. It’s said that PM fans left their literacy at Lobotomy Corporation and never went back to recover it

[@agenttechnaid5438]

​@@victorvirgili4447not our fault it got burried with L corps... Wait it was our fault

[@Depression_timelost]

yesod supression fried my pixels and my ability to read

[@eggseed6543]

Threatened with skill issue and then beat the boss in the hardest way possible AND flexing a deluge nuke??? I'm out of words... I kneel...

[@PedroLucas-ix8tx]

Question, why people say that Limbus gets really good only after chapter 3? I find chapter 3 to be just as peak as 4, where the story really starts getting wheight and we got Mili doing the final battle music, Kromer is a great villain, not as great as Dongrang but still really good, and i really like that Sinclair did not overcome his trauma completely by the Canto end like Yi Sang and Ishmael, amd still shows being resentfull of christmas and basements, but overocming his fears slow and steady. Overall, i think chapter 3 should be the one remarked as the start of the peakness of Limbus Company

[@AbubakarRaji-c2z]

"You're still not a hero, but definitely no longer a coward"

[@mitacestalia7532]

Because chapter 4 is making me a sob mess and my hardest fight is holding against my tears fighting dongrang. the fight isn't even hard, but I'm bawling This is coming from Sinclair simp. Basically canto 3 is a built up to peak while canto 4 is peak.

[@saku8718]

How does this game run on mobile?

[@AbubakarRaji-c2z]

@@saku8718 it might crash a bit depending on if your phone is on the lower ends, also prepare for 10gb+ jumpscare.

[@cannibalcat9032]

because of demian deus ex machina'ing kromer, canto 3 was almost ruined for me

[@purpleteaisme]

Remember this for new players...The power of friendship exist through support if you can't move past a level. Add random people as a friend, they won't mind.

[@shizik3909]

Though I think that would be a little cheating if you bring a 50 level ID to a canto 3 or somewhere there. It would just obliterate everything solo.

[@purpleteaisme]

@@shizik3909 And relying on supports will lead you to experiencing another worst torment in your life when you enter the canto's dungeon unprepared.

[@michapiasta3072]

someones Nclair saved me against RIcardo,

[@versailleswitch7135]

As someone who doesn't play gacha games I actually really love limbus's difficulty and how it forces you to pay attention to mechanics and try new strategies. Though I may be biased because I already loved roguelikes and team building games like monster train or darkest dungeon but Iove how it forces you to use your resources intelligently and how it makes everyone struggle at different points. I personally had no problem with Kim using a burn team but there were other places I needed to switch out ids to win

[@ToanNguyen-sd9gg]

Since I saw you having already spent the modules for RR rewards at 14:54, just a friendly reminder that the rewards for completing section 3 of RR will reward you with 3 ten pulls along with a ten pull guaranteeing a three star id of season 4.

[@Thunderdroceon]

I'm a newish player (Over 2 weeks) and I was wondering If you knew when the current RR would leave. I'm currently on Section 3 and struggling quite a lot so I kinda wanna know how much time I got lol

[@ToanNguyen-sd9gg]

@@Thunderdroceon The current RR line ends when PM will announce the opening of a new line. If I were to estimate, you have a good few more weeks (possibly more) to finish the current RR line

[@Thunderdroceon]

@@ToanNguyen-sd9gg thanks

[@stephaniejanong4146]

​@@Thunderdroceon I wouldn't be too worried, I think. They haven't released the Season 5 roadmap, so we can't say for sure, Railway updates are usually announced in advance (both on announcement and with a trailer on yt) so you still have time even with announcement. PM also have been releasing railways after an MD update and an intervallo, at least they have for the past 2 seasons, so you'd hopefully have at least a good 1-2 month with a 1 week notice. Take your time!

[@stephaniejanong4146]

Also, since you're having trouble with railway, did you know Limbus has a support system?

[@panzerldr5724]

Seeing some other comments about it and yeah, there’s a bit of conflict of interests with 2 different types of players/fans. Even before Limbus, PM’s games were regarded as kind of the Dark Souls of their respective genres. That carries exactly the kind of expectations you’d expect. In the same way you might laugh at someone new to video games playing a FromSoft game, and wondering why it’s so hard, we laugh a little bit at “normal” or “casual” gacha gamers coming into Limbus and wondering why it’s so hard. If anything it’s mostly too easy for us. That’s the dynamic at play here. I can’t speak for PM obviously, but I don’t THINK they’re too interested in hooking the average casual gamer, the same way FromSoft isn’t. Their target audience is the people that only get more determined the harder the challenge gets. Obviously they do want new players, but they don’t want to compromise their identity, and betray the expectations of their existing fans by making things too easy or even accessible. One might think that there’s nothing at all wrong with being accessible, but again, look to Dark Souls. It’d be absurd to expect a button for “this boss is too hard, let me skip it so I can move on.” Edit: I applaud you. Claim his balls.

[@donvitopatata]

As a longtime Project Moin fan, Limbus is... still a difficult thing. Lemme shed some light on that if someone from "outside" reads this. Basically the "old" fanbase went through two hellishly complex and hard games and it shaped it somewhat. With Project Moon not making of further games for several years, many yearn for limbus to hit this difficulty again, while newer players or people from the gacha communities are more used to the genre being casual. There is a bit of a conflict in interest, and stuff like kim comes from the "old design" being implemented into a gacha. Same goes for seeing enemy skills, passive and so on. Its the core principles of "die, learn from it, retry" that all games share. With canto 7 and a certain fight still being unnerfed... it seems like they start ramping up difficulty in a good way atleast. And nothing in gacha games felt as good as beating up Kim, Ricardo, the epic RR bosses and 6-34 (iirc) and now the new bosses in c7 But holy fuck I agree on the new player part, all of it is... so bad. I started a second account to get through the older cantos again and see how they keep up.

[@qaztim11]

On the new player thing I wish they re-introduced early walpurgis story,Event or RR story into the game, it's weird when characters suddenly start talking about mirror dimensions in the main plot,Dante talking about the IDs, or rooms opening inside the bus, without that actually happening in the story before. I imagine most of these gaps in the narrative are because those events are not in the game.

[@elpatoempatado2404]

​@@qaztim11 arent those in the theater?

[@fluffhead7722]

When I first played LobCorp I called it "stockholm syndrome simulator," because I'd sit there for an hour trying to complete a later day, suddenly watch my employees perish for the fourth time over a minor oversight and decide to call it a night, and then be back at it again within the next 24 hours.

[@funninoriginal6054]

​@@qaztim11they appear in the canto selection screen, though. It's just that they're optional content.

[@odysseum4618]

god C7 Boss 2 is so hard to beat since it's a race between who will die first

[@houba6770]

Hey, Psychie, a little tip for playing Limbus, is don't pull much. I'm a guy who only buys the battlepass and ends up with 260 ish pulls every Walpurgisnacht. Just refresh your energy once daily and you'll have enough to hopefully get all you need and you'll still be guaranteed at least one thing.

[@panjinurfadillah2489]

My account is too filled with nothing but Fishmael and her E.G.O . And Only got Red Eye Ryoushu in Walpurgisnacht event.

[@redcobra9588]

HOLY MOLY you beat kim with sinking and sheer brute force of UGA BUNGA. mah bro you are absolute chad.

[@GoldDragon20]

understandable Walpurgis burnout. I had the same exact thing happen on this most recent one, where i got nothing for Walpurgis, not even a unit from past Walpi, until I got enough Ideality to get Hong Lu. Buut good to see you're back, fellow Manager.

[@funninoriginal6054]

As someone who's a day 1 player and started with Ruina, but got my own friends into Limbus eventually, i kinda get where you're coming from with the critique about Limbus's difficulty. That being said, i feel like enemies and mechanics themselves shoudn't be nerfed, since a huge appeal of the game is its really crunchy combat system that rewards smart team building and strategy. Instead, i think farming options and side content should be expanded so that newer players can have an easier time catching up to the current content. PM is doing great work so far with the EXP Luxcavation buff, so i don't doubt it'll happen eventually. I do like the idea of a team revival mechanic at the cost of the EX reward, though. Seems like a good way to still keep players engaged with the story.

[@YouCanCallMeIz]

I hate the idea of Team Revival because it takes literally all of the weight out of fights. I really don't need 40 lunacy that much. I WANT to be stuck. I really, really want to get my ass handed to me until I'm forced to learn how to win. That's what I came here for, and that's what I expect from PM, or otherwise I would've just went to replay LOR or LC.

[@eleuuuuu]

It does make sense given that Dante canonically returns the sinners during fights (i.e. Ricardo, K-Corp, Bloodfiends) It can be a solution for the story-only players

[@aure6796]

@@YouCanCallMeIzif so then just dont use the revive mechanic

[@mitacestalia7532]

Maybe in future we'll get more similar mechanic, but not with exp exchange. Dante already gets speed control mechanic. (Which I never use anyway lol)

[@YouCanCallMeIz]

@@aure6796 No, I want it to not exist. At all. No chill. I don't care if it's a "casual" game, I didn't ask for a casual game when I started playing Limbus. If some people don't like that, whatever, I guess.

[@Bedrick]

Genshin, ZZZ, and Wuthering Waves story literally makes me fall asleep so I ended up quitting them both and don't regret it one bit. Limbus Company has been a breath of fresh air in comparison

[@jojogacha974]

Yeah honestly genshin was too safe. And the characters were kinda boring I only liked klee because of how pure and innocent she was (seriously every time she spoke my heart just melted from her absolute innocence and makes me wish she was real to restore my faith in humanity.) and scaramouche because dudes just an unapologetic douche and I love him for that. But most of the cast are just so bland and safe and feel like cardboard cutouts.

[@Bedhead7]

Calling out how most of the viewers are hardcore limbus players omg

[@panjinurfadillah2489]

We project moon fan are always raid someone when mentioning anything related to Project Moon games (Library Of Ruina, Lobotomy Corporation, Limbus Company)

[@isadora468]

Limbus is one of these games where "sunk cost fallacy" isn't one of the reasons that kept me playing.

[@Alyssciel]

Hey I'm glad you came back to Limbus Company. It's the only Gacha game I play nowadays because I was already invested in the story since Lobotomy Corporation. Honestly glad that they expanded upon the City and made it the dystopian setting it is today.

[@graycard668]

Limbus's story is my favorite for the soul reason that there main character is an actual character. With a name (clock)Face. And developing personality.

[@gabriexd-te4ke]

3:17 that mersault youtube user reference kills me

[@the-h-69420]

Asheriko is everywhere

[@primarchjackfrost8117]

My man got hit with the Reading Comprehension Check for Kim (he is a true pmoon enjoyer I kneel)

[@MalevolentCherry]

I don’t know about people who never played project moon games before but Limbus company is a breath of fresh air in their line up for how easy it is. I recently got a friend who knew nothing about project moon into Limbus and he cleared canto 7 by now only having minor struggles with the greatest being canto 7’s trio and dungeon boss. Now had I handed him a recommendation for L corp, he would have died and renounced our friendship by now.

[@thunderwolf1336]

Welcome back! Kim really is a pain for most players who got a lot of season 4 units cuz season 4 was just sinking with a touch of tremor and charge. This is one of the few times i have seen someone actually read the skills, practice the characters to overcome the boss Glad to see you are giving this game another try. Also just a recommendation, clear atleast refraction railway section 3, it gives you 30 pulls + a guaranteed 000 ID from season 4 Good luck on the rest of your Limbussy adventure Manager.

[@tylerulfmann4586]

I really loved the T Corp tremor support Frogo Hong lu was also neat

[@wingdingfontbro]

I never thought you’d do another video on limbus, but I am so glad you did and I am infinitely more glad you got to experience the rest of the story. You also took really well to the criticism and came back even harder, hell you even beat Kim with the one team that doesn’t work well (not that it doesn’t work at all, it’s just that Sinking happens to make him stronger, in contrary to most other bosses) against him.

[@nopenope7742]

I knew you'd be back eventually 😭😭😭

[@woulfmondsden7520]

To be fair most of project moon games aren't that much cassual focused, these games use challenging mecanics for narrative reasons, the end of part 2 of canto 7 has the most difficult boss in limbus to date, and even though it feels a bit unfair, it also is really rewarding to get to know the truth behind the story after such battle. As someone who started just when the last walpurgis natch started, I can comfortably say that limbus difficulty spikes aren't based on archetypes / team comps, but rather on enemy mechanics, Even right now I don't play a specific team, I just go with generalistic good units thatI have, instead of going for a build. That way you can focus on dealing with the battle gimmicks. Plus, having only sinking units to defeat kim is just plain bad luck.

[@LTDLetsPlays]

I struggled more at Ricardo (cuz didn’t realise ish was immortal) than at her I only lost 2 members and with a team focused on Gluttony sin affinity so it wasn’t hard for me

[@woulfmondsden7520]

@@LTDLetsPlays sure ricardo is way harder, but the chip damage gets accumulated. Plus I still barely have Ids so I don't really have any synergy

[@infiniteraide1642]

Correct, they're more focused with creating Ludonarrative Harmony in their games rather than make it easy

[@Flygoniaks]

[2:38] Small thing to note here: During Season 3, Project Moon made the decision to NOT include voice acting for new event/interlude story chapters, since after developing two of them, they realized that getting the main cast (comprised of 14 different voice actors) as well as VAs for any side characters together _every single time_ was a lot more of a hassle than they initially expected. So, they scrapped voiced event chapters so that they could _make these events more frequent,_ effectively doubling the number of interlude chapters we get each Season. Also, you're the first person to call Miracle in District 20 bad, but you're not necessarily wrong. Looking back, it feels like they weren't exactly sure what to do for the Christmas event... Also, many players will agree with you that Bamboo-Hatted Kim is flawed boss design considering that teams built around Sinking exist. In the past, there was actually another boss like this - "So That No One Will Cry," which punished players who brought a Burn team SUPER hard. To fix this, Project Moon removed those anti-Burn Passives from the version of STNOWC that appears in the Mirror Dungeon (where Burn stacks can get ridiculously high). They kept the passive in the main story and Thread Luxcavation though, where it isn't as punishing. In my opinion, I like it when bosses make it more difficult if you bring specific team comps, as long as it isn't _unfair_ difficulty. Kind of like what Chapter 7 is doing for Bleed teams.

[@AudibleNoiseContent]

Beating Kim with sinking BASED

[@panjinurfadillah2489]

Bassicly my first Attempt at beating Kim, got my bone claim in 3 turns.

[@xidjav1836]

I really hope Limbus and HBR set a precedent to make altergachas mainstream, It'd be so nice to expirience a story knowing everyone gets proper focus without anyone getting left behind

[@indrarosadip.5604]

Holy moly the thumbnail is.... Lmao. I don't know what's the correct word to describe that. It reminds me of Vergil said "Danteh, turn back the clock danteh". 9:37 i got him when i played the game again a month ago and was like "interesting... Yi sing is an artist?" I didn't know he was busted.

[@flandera9965]

the issue with limbus's story is that it is a sort of an "awkward threequel" which takes place in an already established lore in the earlier two games but it kind of has to quickly explain it to you, leaving many questions behind that the previous two games would obviously answer.

[@mrmasher1126]

14:30 Because Gregor sucks *shows GG. Damn

[@Xaradium]

he really wished that he had legerdemain

[@KopaczDziur]

Bro unironically said that Linton Gregor sucks 😭

[@mitacestalia7532]

​@@KopaczDziur bro doesn't have solemnt lament ego, don't blame him

[@valberline]

@@mitacestalia7532 heir is great even without lament

[@revengeofshadow9353]

Even though wuwa hasn't had an insane update since launch the fact that they care is enough. Taking a break and coming back is totaly justifiable when you can skip too.

[@gunosaguki1]

Limbus company is a regular single player game wearing a gacha skin. If project moon had a lot more funding i imagine they wouldnt have made it a gacha as they arent as profit driven. Gachas definately work for funding future endeavours if you can get off the ground which they seem to have at least. Regardless I'm glad to see this updated review. i saw your original review and i had some criticisms but for the most part you seem to be pretty spot on on the pros and cons of the game

[@chillazero]

I wanted to mention this in video one, but it's pretty efficient to skip some luxcavations! My general rotation is buy energy twice, manual exp dungeon, skip all three thread dungeons. You get 12 thread per dungeon run rather than 9 (before newest dungeon) so it's rather good.

[@earthsartu3423]

Welcome back to the bus!! hope you have fun with the stories. this game may have a lot of down time after you clear the stories but the thing is you really only need to do weekly and craft module often, the daily quest is kinda optional after the main team is maxxed out. I generally refill by lunacy two time evey day and just logout. Now I'm sitting at 960 module waiting to be use

[@razorblade4146]

Danteeehhh.. Do the canto VII danteeehhh...

[@panjinurfadillah2489]

Dante: [MY TEAMS IS STILL TOO WEAK!! I DON'T HAVE A GOOD ID FOR THE SINNERS!!]

[@raglefantlol]

Thank you! Your first video got me hooked on the combat system, and then the story and dispenser function got me to stay. Since then, I have shown your video to several of my friends and got them hooked as well (on both the game and your channel). I will be happy to forward them this one, too.

[@Interstice1994]

My man really spread the PM special Brainrot! (well done Soldier 🫡)

[@phudolyutthasat4592]

1:23 aw...... Yayyy!!!!! WE ARE SO BACKKK

[@super62501]

3:04 - Honestly fair reason to stop considering the issue. It's why I recommend setting up a more "neutral" team, like a Burn team or just "Big Unga Bunga" like a Blade Lineage team.

[@celtickawaii57]

I was about to say, Sinking is good for Canto 6 and the seasonal IDs usually mesh really well with the story chapter they come from. The game encourages you to run Sinking for Canto 6 with a lot of sanity-dependent coin roll enemies or enemies weak to Gloom, Heathcliff's passive even works best with Sunshower since he's negative coin. If you haven't been spoiled on Canto 7 yet, there is a lot of Bleed and Rupture focus. (Hong Lu's Canto, obviously!)

[@TNuuv]

i like limbus for the special touches it does during stories, in heathcliff's canto you can point out a lot of minor details that make you go "yo, that's sick", getting to know more about the sinners and the sinners opening up, and showing their personalities and anytime someone askes about limbus, I just tell them to look up a mechanic tutorial video on youtube. a little sad that we won't get to see the PM ceo's mukbang stream but it is a small price to pay for limbus doing well

[@SiriusFrostalite]

Great job on kim, often if not always when it comes to actually difficult boss fights, all you have to do is lock in and strategize bit more than usual. I took on myself a challange of beating canto 7 using only the Wild hunt heathcliff in all levels I could bring him in, and I was successful in bringing hin all the way to the end of part 2 (with part 3 releasing soon)

[@slothlifematter]

1 thing I will note here that limbus core mechanic have been simplify alot by library of ruina so in a sense, vertical strike kinda different too

[@EchoMayCry]

I'm impressed by seeing about the difficulty spike cuz most limbus players are here since day 1, most them have spent their time to farm about 80% of all ids and everyone kind of agrees that is a easy game, my tip about combat is that is all about who gets to play, make the enemy fall into how you play or it will force you to play their gimmick

[@Thunderdroceon]

Well yeah obviously if you have 80% of IDs and have been playing since day 1 the game would be very easy. I think he's mostly talking about newer players/returning players saying it's difficult.

[@meraldwaves]

@@Thunderdroceon i mean every new player ive seen says the game is pretty easy, im a returning player and so far nearly everything has been just winrate button

[@stephaniejanong4146]

​@@meraldwaves wait, can I ask what canto you're at? I'm curious

[@iw5su]

Just a general piece of advice for players struggling with content. Adding friends and borrowing a support ID is very powerful and can give you access to units you don't have leveled. Additionally, there are several IDs that are powerful enough to just beat enemies solo or with just one or 2 other allies letting you invest more into fewer units. Also, if you only have one strong ID, you can give it more skill slots by selecting fewer than the maximum selected sinners (in focused encounters) which makes several fights much easier (ex - canto 7 final boss is really easy if you borrow cinq don and only send her in).

[@pineapplepearjuice6717]

Great video, its always nice to see someone falling in love with the game again, alas, you badmouthed Gregor so im afraid we of the Head will be deploying a Claw to go after you soon ^_^! (Nah but seriously good vid, excited to see your thoughts on canto vii).

[@nikmaxter]

Oh its you! I enjoyed your first Limbus video actually, so Im happy there is a part 2 now.

[@kelvin7549]

Note: Do not build status teams before you have a team of "unga bungas" (high rollers with good damage output) The reason is that ungas work on any form of content while status teams can easily get screwed over by certain boss mechanics and are generally either unusable in story, or struggle a lot unless you can focus on one target specifically. So yeah, building Sinking before having a proper team was huge mistake on your end - but also a common one.

[@JannetFenix]

To me, Tkt was my favourite intervallo. I loved the balance between worldbuilding, character building, story hinting and theme applied on "forgotten" sinners.

[@IsmeVT]

As a pmoon creator who just beat c6, Yeah you’re not wrong about Kim. I run tremor and he was still stupidly hard.

[@Kofhiliphus]

With how much money project moon is making, I wouldn't be surprised if they announced a new project (after all the "hell" cantos are done) that delves into a souls-like type genre and I wouldn't even complain, in fact I'll even surrender my f2p status on the next walpurgisnacht.

[@nekolatheneko]

0:36 As soon as you said this, I knew full well you have already fell into the rabbit hole 🕳️

[@GaleTheVO]

I got a whole group of friends on the game when Walpurgisnacht rolled around this year before Canto 7, and quite honestly they caught up to me who's been playing since release pretty timely. And none of them started with less than at least 2 3* characters. I think the new player experience is pretty good if you ask me.

[@firestorm5371]

I wouldn't be surprised if they rework the game into a single player game a few years after beginning finished and they no longer want to produce new content for it.

[@philioso6402]

Had the same sinking squad against Kim issue here. After getting my head slashed off for 10 times or so, decided to try with a poise team which wasn't even complete yet. Filled in the blank with couple of goodstuff ids including double zeros. And believe me, it was at least 3 times easier than with the sinking team. Don't mess with Mr. Kim's mental health people.