Punk Will Never Be Dead! | Collection Update 29

[@9thcircle73]

Great stuff here. Subhumans are touring the US now and still rage! Check out Horror Epics and Death Before Dishonour by Exploited are worth checking out. Terry Bones from Discharge/Broken Bones played guitar on Ministry's Psalm 69 as well. Fun video!

[@joesmetalmancave]

Thanks man, pleased to hear you enjoyed it! Yes, the Subhumans were here in my hometown a few weekends ago, and I wanted to go, but it just didn't happen. Hopefully there will be another opportunity someday.

[@thedreadfulminutes]

Niiiice, good to revisit these essential classics again, took me back to my teen years again. 🤕😢

[@joesmetalmancave]

Old school shit for you, but oddly and maybe awkwardly new to me, haha. Kinda weird how that works out.

[@BlackMetalRebellion]

Glad to see someone else in the Metaltuber scene showing off some old school punk records! Hoping to see more outta ya in the future. I have a few Punk collection updates to do myself next month.

[@joesmetalmancave]

Awesome man, I'll definitely check those out.

[@mordantrhed]

This was a cool video. I also love old hardcore and punk. For me, that early stuff is very crucial for me. As usual, very cool video.

[@joesmetalmancave]

Thanks bud!

[@infernusrex796]

Being a 70's/80's kid, I cut my teeth on Punk, and I still love it!! I was so lucky to be a teen in those days, I got to see The Ramones, GBH, Bad Brains, Fugazi, Subhumans, GG Allin, Samhain, T.S.O.L., and so many more! Now those shows were fucking VIOLENT!!

[@joesmetalmancave]

That's awesome, man! I would have loved to seen those classic artists! So fucking cool!

[@davehoward22]

Yep ,discharge gigs were mental

[@dinkins335]

I grew up in a time where being into underground metal went hand in hand with being into underground punk, or at least it was that way where I grew up. Some great old school punk bands to check out are The Partisans, Anti-Nowhere League, The Germs, Peter and the Test Tube Babies, and GBH.

[@joesmetalmancave]

Hell yeah man! I know some of those bands you mentioned, but I'll definitely investigate the others really soon. Thanks!

[@davehoward22]

Everything subhumans put out just got better

[@joesmetalmancave]

Yeah very consistent band for sure!

[@davidmarsh9897]

Subhumans were brilliant and very influential at the time, much of what they said is still relevant today, in the UK anyway. Dick formed another band when Subhumans split in the mid 80's called Culture Shock, who had the same kind of lyrics but a more reggae/punk feel to the music. He then had another project called Citizen Fish (with former Subhumans members and a guy from Culture Shock's first album), which I guess was a reference to one of Subhumans' songs on the Day the Country Died called ''Us Fish Must Swim Together'. Again, the lyrics weren't as raw as the Subhumans and weren't as nihilistic but a bit more optimistic in nature. The music was more similar to Subhumans than Culture Shock but had it's differences too. I had a game of pool with Dick, the lead singer once when Citizen Fish played our local venue, he was a really nice guy. Check out Culture Shock, they had a fair few good, catchy tunes. Cheers.

[@joesmetalmancave]

I'm definitely interested in any side projects from the Subhumans. I'll look these bands up! Thanks!

[@davidmarsh9897]

I'm in the UK, I guess I started with punk in the late 70's initially. I was listening to Sex Pistols, the Clash etc. which were in the media and on the radar of most music fans at the time. I guess it was around the mid to late 80s I realised that the Sex Pistols etc were the atypical cliched punk bands and started to get into more underground punk bands. The Exploited, GBH etc. were usually called Oi bands, by me anyway, they had a very different style and attitude to the more anarcho punk bands. Anarcho punk lyrics were very political and intelligent, whereas we saw the Oi bands as vaguely political and more on the aggressive OI! Oi! Oi side of things. I didn't dislike these bands as some of their stuff was pretty good but I did view them differently. We used to see the GBH fans hangiing around the city centre drinking and punking about, we called them Ciderpunks I recall. Wattie from the Exploited defintiely didn't like Crass for example, he wrote a couple of derrrogatory lyrics about them, I remember. The main bands we were into back then were Crass, Subhumans, Conflict, Disorder, Flux of Pink Indians, Omega Tribe, Poison Girls, The Mob, Rudimentary Peni and many other bands around the UK scene at the time. I was also listening to bands like Chumbawamba (their first album was pretty hardcore and their sound went a bit more poppy but still usually had good lyrics and attitude). We also listened to bands like Amebix, Antisect and Napalm Death, which are not classed as punk now but grindcore. They were possibly seen as anarcho punk at the time though and obviously heavily influenced by the anarcho bands. The US bands we were mainly into at the time were Bad Brains, Dead Kennedys, MDC, DOA, Spermbirds and several others. Oh, those were the days, eh?

[@joesmetalmancave]

It seems like the late 70's and throughout the 80's was an amazing time to be young and to be into underground music. It must have been fucking amazing seeing the formation of these bands and seeing the various genres that spawned throughout the years. Thanks for telling me about some of these bands too, many of them I had not yet heard of, but I will definitely look them up! I can't believe Chumbawamba was a hardcore band back in the day??!! I just remember that horrible hit song they had in the late 90s when I was in high school, haha. Oh, and I definitely love all of those early pioneering grindcore bands! It's been interesting realizing that all of those guys were, most likely, influenced by Discharge, but then just sped up the music and added growly vocals to create something new. Very cool! Anyway, thanks for sharing your story, David, and thanks for watching!

[@davidmarsh9897]

@@joesmetalmancave Hi Joe. Yeah, it was good times, from what I can remember that is! Chumbawamba's first album was called Pictures of Starving Children Sell Records. They were having a go at the Live Aid thing, suggesting a lot of the bands were just doing it for publicity rather than the cause of saving starving Africans etc. I saw Chumbawamba quite a few times and although they weren't generally hardcore they always put on a good show. They totally changed their line up for Tubthumping I think, I'd kind of lost track of them by then. They're presently filming a documentary about those times I believe. Another good doc I watched on KZbin recently about Amebix. I'm pretty sure they weren't really aware they were the Godfathers of crustpunk/grindcore at the time. I don't really remember Discharge being on my radar that much back in the day. I always saw them as more of an Oi band at the time but looking back they were probably more hardcore than I thought. They invented the D-Beat which was pretty cool, I watched a few docs about them recently too and have been listening and working out the riffs to all their old singles. A few albums to check out would be Disorder - Under the Scapel Blade, Dirt - Object Refuse Reject Abuse (Very raw and possibly a hard listen for some), Hit Parade - Knick Knack Paddy Wack (Irsih band talking about the Troubles etc. a bit more of a synthey sound but I liked it), Icons of Filth - The Mortarhate Projects, Omega Tribe - Make Tea Not War, RDF - Borderline Cases, The Mob - Let the Tribe Increase, Subhumans - From the Cradle to the Grave, Zounds - The Curse of Zounds, Poison Girls - Hex/ Chappaquiddick Bridge, Conflict - Increase the Pressure, Citizen Fish - Wider Than a Postcard, Antisect - In Darkness There is No Choice, Amebix - Arise, Crass - pretty much any of their stuff. Sorry about the long list, I got a bit carried away. There are many others obviously, cheers.

[@joesmetalmancave]

@@davidmarsh9897 Thanks again for more recommendations, I'll definitely check them out! I did listen to that first Chumbawamba album, and I thought it was interesting, but definitely not hardcore as you said. Maybe something more like post punk/new wave, big either way, interesting. I had no idea they were around that long ago. I just thought they were a 90s band.