Pure Fun - 2018 Toyota 86

It might not sound the best, and yes, it still doesn’t have a turbo hiding under the bonnet, but the 2018 Toyota 86 is still one of my absolute favourite cars of all time, and here's why...
Intro: (0:00)
Exterior: (0:27)
Interior: (3:00)
Engine: (9:46)
Driving: (10:33)
What I Love Most: (15:29)
Outro: (17:29)
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[@lee4zeena]

Admittedly, I was a big nay sayer about this car... like most I focused on numbers and outputs. But after I went for a test drive I had to eat a slice of humble pie...because I went home with it!

[@DaveZalstein]

Ha! Well there you go lee joseph - awesome story and glad you're digging the car... and my video. Cheers mate.

[@observer.b_e_l_l_i_s]

86 g a n g. Never get enough of my 2014. I actually really liked the video setting in the rain/overcast, a nice change up to the typical sunny day videos.

[@DaveZalstein]

Cheers Thee Parris Hill, glad you liked the vid. If rain/overcast is what you're after, Melbourne in winter is a gold mine haha. Thanks for watching :)

[@ke70gt18]

Glad to see someone said that it makes more power then a turbo sr20 its really not as slow as the numbers suggest

[@DaveZalstein]

Agreed Ke70gt. Sure, it'd be faster with a turbo or an EJ20 in there, but honestly, if you're after more fasts, just buy something else haha.

[@Juergen_Mueller]

Very good review describing not only the vehicle but its specific character as well! HINT: DRIVING EXPERIENCE STARTING 10:30

[@DaveZalstein]

Hi Hans-Joachim Schumann, thanks so much for the positive feedback. Stoked you liked the video and thanks too for giving folks the short-cut to the driving impressions. I like giving people as much info as I can, so the exterior/interior stuff I feel is pretty valuable, particularly for those looking to buy. Cheers for watching all the same though, and take care :D

[@Juergen_Mueller]

@@DaveZalstein To be honest, I didn't watch all the first 10:30 but looked for the beginning of the driving experience. I recommend to put such short cut yourself as not every viewer is interested in the last cup holder detail and many people already learnt that there is few rear space in that kind of cars without any exception.

[@DaveZalstein]

@@Juergen_Mueller Fair call man - noted :D

[@Rawnfella]

I've got a 2017 86 GTS in Pearl White. I agree with everything you've said in this video; weekend mountain drives are what I look forward to during the working week!

[@DaveZalstein]

Hear hear mate. And glad you liked the video :) Also jealous that you have one - cracking car.

[@jasonali-lavroff2644]

Fantastic review Dave for an absolutely iconic car!

[@DaveZalstein]

Cheers Jason Lavroff, stoked you liked the video. Hope you check out some of my others :D

[@steveleibo6517]

Great review dude! I enjoyed it! Beautiful road too!

[@DaveZalstein]

Cheers mate, appreciate the positive feedback. Keen to get back out there and put together more vids for you guys - just real work getting in the way haha. Take care and drive safe :D

[@jhndijkman]

I'm a Kiwi who very much enjoys his driving and been looking what next in the sports coupe range. Of course the 86 strongly comes to mind. And thanks to your review , I think a 86 will fill my needs. Your review was well balanced, just enough tech detail on the car it self. And with ample amount of time of just driving the thing , informing us your joys of drive. Excellent review on what I would call the perfect type of roads. Well done.

[@DaveZalstein]

Hey jhndijkman, you're super welcome mate and glad you enjoyed the video so much - that's great to hear. The 86/BRZ is a mega fun car and one who should definitely consider if you're thinking about a new sports car.

[@linkincr17]

Amazing review like always.

[@DaveZalstein]

Oh wow Maxime Karam, thanks so much for saying so. I'm really stoked and humbled by all the support and encouragement - so cheers :D

[@howardglover199]

That car is a bloody beauty, nice review mate.

[@DaveZalstein]

Cheers MMars! Looks alright ay? Thanks for watching and hopefully you'll subscribe - more videos to come :)

[@Klisander]

I have two dream cars, one is VW T1 and the second one is GT86. Since 2012 when i was one year before getting my driving license i was driving a little bit on the track. I totally felt in love to this car.

[@DaveZalstein]

Cool car choices there Klisander... Thanks for watching and for joining the discussion. Hope you check out my other vids too ;-)

[@oriondragos5876]

How do you have less than 1K subscribers. You're a great reviewer !

[@DaveZalstein]

Haha cheers Orion Dragos, really appreciate the support. I only launched the channel at the start of the year, but I've already exceeded my initial expectations with more than 550 subscribers. Maybe you can do your best to spruik my channel and see if you can help me hit the magical 1k mark - that'd be ace. Cheers and stay tuned for more vids coming soon :D

[@entity65]

great review, keep up the 86 content

[@DaveZalstein]

Cheers nismo! More content coming and hopefully more Toyota stuff too ;-) Stay tuned mate and thanks for the sub...

[@Affalterbach1967]

Rainy day video earned you your 500th subscriber.

[@DaveZalstein]

Ha! You're a legend Affalterbach 1967 - thanks and glad you appreciated the effort :) Also, 502 subscribers now haha.

[@LoLPhuocDat]

agreed man looks beautiful

[@DaveZalstein]

Cheers Records Hehe - appreciate the support and encouragement.

[@williamgorski5804]

Got one... Love it! Great review.

[@DaveZalstein]

Cheers William Gorski. What spec/colour/transmission etc?

[@Allemonn]

Love your video, good explanation and review

[@DaveZalstein]

Thanks so much @Allemonn, very much appreciate all the positive feedback. Cheers.

[@ypaut]

your car looks amazing! it's perfectly modded 👍🏻

[@DaveZalstein]

Thanks so much but the car is all standard - just how it comes from Toyota :D

[@136Hammer]

Good work Dave.! Subbed

[@DaveZalstein]

Awesome sauce MuleBurger33 - thanks heaps and stoked you liked the video! Hope you dig some of my others too. Cheers :)

[@mr.troller6824]

Nice review car, all detail that's I wanna to see and you also shown me 😍😍😍THANKS

[@DaveZalstein]

No worries Mr. Troller. Cheers for watching and glad you enjoyed the vid :D

[@itzjaysee]

Great review Dave.

[@DaveZalstein]

Thanks Joshua C, glad you liked the video. You got an 86 or considering buying one?

[@itzjaysee]

@@DaveZalstein Considering buying one. I want a fun daily that i can also slide. I love the history behind the 86. Mostly the reason why I really like this car, is the amount of effort they put into low centre of gravity and weight distribution. As much I wanted a Toyota engine in or more power. I think that the car will respond to good drivers as one of the executives mentioned.

[@DaveZalstein]

@@itzjaysee Sounds like the right car for you. They're super fun to drive, great car/driver communication, and excellent for skids :D Let me know how you get on - cheers.

[@halalwrld]

Rain makes it so nice

[@DaveZalstein]

Cheers Umar, trying something different can be good, but gees it makes shooting exterior stuff tricky haha. Glad you liked the video though and cheers for watching :)

[@Sho_Ryu_Ken]

Love Toyota 86's

[@DaveZalstein]

Same mate. Same :D

[@irfanulshah9713]

nice review

[@DaveZalstein]

Cheers bud. And thanks for subscribing :)

[@abisarwanhusaiflakim4478]

Just there!

[@djameltessa7914]

I'm a fan of that car!!!

[@DaveZalstein]

I see that - good avatar image ;-) They're just such good fun these things. Do you own one by chance?

[@avrilcadabra]

Good review Dave, did not realise you have departed from CA, if you ever need help filming some drivebys etc let me know would love to get some experience in car journalism and love youtube. Although dam you standing in the rain shaking for the first portion of the video is dedication!

[@DaveZalstein]

Haha, cheers Avrilcadabra - yeah, I left back in October. Help is occasionally required, so I'll keep you in mind. Where abouts in Melbourne are you based? Plus thanks for noting the 'rain work' in the beginning - all part of the gig haha ;-)

[@DaveZalstein]

No worries man, please do ;-)

[@greekvenom]

Love the cabin.. hope the new supra will have similar design

[@DaveZalstein]

Hi muf koda, I'm a big fan of this interior too. Simple is good in my opinion. Sadly, I suspect modernity will insist the new Supra will have a fair bit more going on inside it, but hey, I'm happy to be proven wrong. Cheers for watching and for joining the discussion. Hope you liked the video :)

[@Navieri]

Just bought a 2013 frs, already looking forward to getting the 2017-2018 86 or brz once I’m finished paying this frs off

[@DaveZalstein]

Nice one Ozirim! Enjoy the FRS and the upgrade if/when the time comes. And thanks for watching - hope you liked the video :)

[@SSR-vz8zx]

Ozirim I ask this with respect. Why want a new car where you have to pay bills again every month and not just save and enjoy the car you have?

[@Navieri]

SSR2396 I worded that badly, I bought this frs because I liked the car and it is everything I wanted with a few minor gripes. I’m going to have this frs for a couple years and I will enjoy it to the fullest. All I meant is that my frs is a 2013 but there is nothing wrong with looking towards the future

[@Piztol]

Great review mate! Still love my 2018 BRZ tS a bit more though, haha

[@DaveZalstein]

Haha cheers Luke Wang, glad you dug the video. I'm yet to drive a BRZ tS but keen to do so. I'm sure I'll love it. Drive safe and enjoy yours :D

[@sarahcasey9364]

love the colour

[@DaveZalstein]

Me too Sarah, it's called Moon Slate Grey. Maybe you should get one... in this colour? Hehe

[@sarahcasey9364]

@@DaveZalstein ive been looking at the tornado grey, i might actually go for this colour

[@DaveZalstein]

@@sarahcasey9364 Awesome! Do it! Hope you liked the video :D

[@leowong5298]

Yes, mate. I love this new color and I am waiting for a proper second hand to spend my money.

[@DaveZalstein]

Yeah, I dig it too. As for waiting for a cheaper second-hand one... aren't we all haha. Cheers for watching Leo Wong, hope you liked the video :)

[@DaveZalstein]

I believe what you meant to say was, "I think it's a shit colour for the car...". We're all entitled to an opinion oz tv but that doesn't make yours infinitely wrong or right.

[@DaveZalstein]

Righto bud.

[@zdenojasoyasho3077]

Congratulations ! You are one who , spiking nice , really good English !

[@DaveZalstein]

Eh... thanks? haha

[@HANCinemaa]

Random fact: the “carbon fibre” on the window buttons isn’t actually a carbon fibre pattern. If you look closely it’s the same pattern as on the front grill and a similar shape on the rear fog lights. It’s supposed to represent the boxer engine the Gt86 has.

[@DaveZalstein]

Correct! It's also on the floor mats... #details

[@moneymaster4812]

Getting mine next week counting the days

[@DaveZalstein]

Hells yeah moneymaster - well done and congrats! Let us know how it goes and what you think. Where abouts are you? Got some good roads around?

[@moneymaster4812]

Ireland lots of winding roads lol. Collecting Tuesday mate got one last week and he loves it

[@DaveZalstein]

@@moneymaster4812 Bewm! I'm sure it'll always put a smile on your face. Good luck with it mate and drive safe :D

[@batch8144]

Still Having fun with my whiteout 2013. Always makes me 😄. Don't know why. Had 1989 celica st for 23 years.

[@DaveZalstein]

'Oh what a feeling' Batch 81 ;-) And the Celica would've been fun too. Cheers for watching...

[@nervsouly]

Omg why did you part with the Celica?

[@batch8144]

nervsouly Gave it to my nephew.

[@nervsouly]

Aw man that's so nice of you! Tho I hope he is not a beginner driver for cars from that time period are way harder to handle and less forgiving than modern ones.

[@batch8144]

nervsouly the car got total wreck parked on the curb side...

[@matto5240]

Nice vid! I want to buy this car. Do you think the two rear seats are usable for small journeys? Obviously, for short people.

[@DaveZalstein]

Haha, even for not short people... They're okay, better than the back of a 911 or an S13, but caring front-seat passengers will help too. Short trips though, no probs. Stoked you liked the vid too - take care man :D

[@MrPhillipgraham]

This car just goes to show power isn't everything. I mean what's the point in having 500hp if you can't utilise it on normal driving roads and keep your licence! Brilliant sports car this and so underrated.

[@LoLPhuocDat]

love the wheels

[@DaveZalstein]

Right? I think they really suit it and make a decent difference to the overall look of the car. What are your thoughts on the rear wing though..?

[@LoLPhuocDat]

Dave Zalstein love it as well, always preferred the brz/frs/86 with some type of wing, looks naked without one imo

[@DaveZalstein]

Fair. Plus anything is better than that horrid massive wing they offered - yuk haha.

[@larrylim8050]

I got one this year at age 49. I'm a fan of a sorts car that doesn't consume much fuel and not too powerful because I lose self control.. it's safer then for me and my family to drive. Good weekend driver. Reliable and safe design much better than regular sedans..i don't want the gr86.. too much for us. If i want car that powerful n stiff id buy a bonafide sports car. I wish toyota gives rather an option on engine n ride comfort for gr86.

[@DaveZalstein]

Congrats on the new purchase Larry and have fun. I'd totally have one too but the garage is already as full as the bank account is empty ;-) Take care and drive safe

[@xXYannuschXx]

I am REALLY torn between this and the 2017 Civic Type R. I love good handling cars and really want to drive a sports car, but I simply dont have such twisty roads where I live, especially on my daily commute. Another problem is, that I need trunk space for my hobby and when I travel with my friends (also the rear seats).

[@RuthlessShadowGamer]

Can confirm that trunk space isnt an issue, especially with the rear seats folded down. I've gone camping and fishing with a full trunk many times!!

[@Malapropify]

Very nice, and professional review. I had the pleasure of owning a BRZ and had this for a weeks test - I cannot agree with you on the torque dip. It's still there! It's even shown on the "current power" meter. I think this car is a complete letdown. It was supposed to be a "new" car, not just a minor facelift. All of the things done here can be done in the old models for around 4-5k USD total. I'm still waiting for the 2.3 that they told they would be making. This car needed 30-40 hp more. I'd recommend you drive one with a modified exhaust, intake and ECU'd. This car doesn't need turbo, it needs to breath better and drive on good quality fuel. Completely different experience. Either way, you earned yourself a sub!

[@Malapropify]

Also, forgot to say. The FA20 engines have very unequal power output, some of them make 180 hp, some do 210. It feels like Toyota is outright trying to scam us.

[@DaveZalstein]

Hi Malapropify, I don't believe the 2018 86 was ever supposed to be a new second-generation car, simply an update to the existing one, but I hear ya re some of the changes being quite minor. I've heard a lot of people talk about this 2.3-litre, but I think if any engine should go in there, the WRX's 2.0-litre turbo makes the most sense. Either way, it's a fun car now and is only likely to get better over time... provided Toyota doesn't can the model that is :(

[@Scottyovideo]

Where did you get your t-shirt from?

[@DaveZalstein]

Hey Scott Ronalds, scored it at the 2016 Festival of 86 in Canberra: www.caradvice.com.au/443149/2016-toyota-festival-of-86-among-the-fans-in-canberra/ And had it signed by Keiichi Tsuchiya and Beau Yates at World Time Attack 2016: www.caradvice.com.au/490939/keiichi-tsuchiya-at-wtac-2016-the-story-behind-the-ultimate-toyota-86-fairy-tale/

[@winglessang31]

These cars are pure porn. An actual brand new affordable Porsche Cayman substitute. There was only a boxster substitute in the Miata and that was the only option for years.

[@DaveZalstein]

It's a fair bit of fun for the money winglessang31, and significantly more affordable than a Cayman (plus you get two back seats). Thanks for watching :)

[@TheBlackAndDeckerBootyWrecker]

I like this car, for it has space invaders on it!

[@DaveZalstein]

Ha! True. On the rear fog light, the backing of the instruments, and the floor mats ;-)

[@TirajAdikari]

Victoria - Education State - Nice :)

[@DaveZalstein]

Haha! More of a goal than a reality I think...

[@jacquescoury2979]

Awesome! I’m still debating between the 86 and the BRZ 😬

[@DaveZalstein]

Pretty tough call ShootToMiss. I like both, but personally might fractionally lean towards the Subey. Not sure why... You?

[@Sho_Ryu_Ken]

ShootToMiss 86

[@DaveZalstein]

Haha, just gotta be different don't you Megaman11?

[@Sho_Ryu_Ken]

Dave Zalstein i like both actually

[@DaveZalstein]

Hehe, me too: facebook.com/CarAdvice/videos/10155744346761505/

[@n.u1232]

I'm 6ft 3.....would I be able to fit in it and not have my view obstructed? Because I really like this car and wanna save up for it to be my 2nd or 3rd ride... 😂

[@DaveZalstein]

Wow, second or third ride... Sound like you're doing alright haha - well done. As for fitting in. My best mate is about 6'4", and he's spent some time in and driving a BRZ. Didn't mention any issues with vision, plus, at least in an 86 you can lower the driver's seat (unlike in an ND MX-5).

[@anonymoususer6683]

I bought a 2018 BRZ with the Brembo brakes and Sachs dampers. I love this car, it has good power and acceleration.

[@DaveZalstein]

Hey Anonymous User, congrats on the car - very jealous. I'd love to cover a BRZ as well, we'll just see how I go. Cheers for watching though and glad you enjoyed the video :)

[@kaskoosek]

not good power to be honest. I think a 2.5 engine will solve all the issues.

[@waykool698]

Karim Haroun enough for me. From an old civic my brz flies around

[@kaskoosek]

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Hi man, i used to drive 2005 civic vtec with 1.7 engine. Upgraded in 2013 to gt86. Sold it in 2017, then recently bought ap2 s2k in 2018. I think that a gt86 is enough for legal roads, but add another passenger ac and go uphill you really find that it is lacking.

[@waykool698]

Karim Haroun enough for driving to work and Walmart, so I ain’t complaining. You must like the car a lot if you still come to 86 vids after selling it

[@mrporsche4236]

Thankgod it doesnt have a turbo. Now you can superchage it. Fun fun fun

[@DaveZalstein]

So many good turbo and supercharger kits for these engines these days, people are spoiled for choice. I'm weird though and I like the engine (mostly) as is. Also the new 2.4-litre in the GR86 and new BRZ is waaaaaay better again. Cheers.

[@lukegacki7165]

Does anyone know how many of the moonslate editions were made?

[@DaveZalstein]

Oooo, tough call. You could reach out and contact Toyota, but not sure how you'd go.

[@Senninha1960]

Nice review Dave, what road was this? Reefton area?

[@DaveZalstein]

Thanks mate. Most of the roads here are between Kinglake and Reefton effectively - out around Toolangi way. Glad you liked the video. What you driving?

[@Senninha1960]

@@DaveZalstein oh yes, beautiful roads around there. I'm driving an M140i at the moment, incredibly quick yet the chassis struggles a bit.

[@DaveZalstein]

@@Senninha1960 Well enjoy it and stay safe :)

[@timwilson5471]

Hey Dave where was this filmed?

[@DaveZalstein]

Hey Tim, mostly around Yarra Glen way in Victoria's Yarra Valley. Very green, very wet, very twisty :D

[@timwilson5471]

Dave Zalstein looks like some nice roads

[@DaveZalstein]

Believe me Tim, they are :D Are you in NSW?

[@timwilson5471]

Dave Zalstein yes I'm in Sydney. I met you on one of the course s at quakers hill back in April.

[@DaveZalstein]

Of course, yeah, sorry. Well if you're up in Sydney at least you've got the Royal National Park etc - plenty of good roads around there :D

[@jing713]

Hey Dave, why did you quit Caradvice?

[@DaveZalstein]

Hey jing713, I was one of three people impacted by a redundancy back in October 2017. Not my choice to leave but things couldn't have worked out better, so all good :) Hope you're liking my new videos anyway...

[@RexNathanChan]

Dave Zalstein I like how your review is real, unlike the scripted car advice ones 😀

[@DaveZalstein]

Well aren't you nice Rex Chan... Thanks so much mate - just glad people are digging the videos :)

[@jing713]

That's a shame! Only just found out that you had your own channel through KZbin's recommendations. Will keep an eye out now on

[@DaveZalstein]

Cheers jing713! Thanks for the support and thanks for subscribing ;-)

[@rivinduserasinghe670]

This is the same as the 2017 model yes? like no differences?

[@DaveZalstein]

Hey Rivindu Serasinghe, Basically, yes. The 2018 update, kept the same engine and transmission basics, but allowed (in Australia anyway) people to get a Performance Kit that added the Brembo brakes, Sachs dampers, and 17-inch wheels you see on this car. Looking at buying one?

[@rivinduserasinghe670]

Dave Zalstein Thanks bro, yea I’ve had my eye on the 2017+ manual for a while now, still saving up for one

[@DaveZalstein]

@@rivinduserasinghe670 If you can mate, do it! You'll love it and you'll have a ball in it every day. Stay safe and take care - and thanks heaps for watching and joining the discussion :D

[@aster5031]

5/5

[@DaveZalstein]

The car or the video as ter? Haha

[@liltwelve6032]

I'm gonna buy this one but IDK how to driver a manual car 😂

[@DaveZalstein]

All good Lil Twelve, practice makes permanent - good luck :D

[@Will0w_0n.F0urs]

86 or Mx5 NC which would you pick and why?

[@DaveZalstein]

Hey R FlorezD, good question but if it's a choice between an 86 or an NC MX-5, I'd take the 86 easily. If it's a choice between an 86 or an ND MX-5, I could find it a little tougher, but even then I'd go with the 86 - I prefer the seating position in the 86 and I like having backseats. Then again, I could save more money and just buy an original NA MX-5... now that'd be fun :D What do you drive?

[@BlatentlyFakeName]

I had an MX-5 NC and the gt86 is definitely a better car. The MX-5 didn't handle nearly as well and it was quite a soft sports car really. The gt86 is less compromising and aimed more at purists. But if you want a convertible the MX-5 is still the best choice out there tbh

[@DaveZalstein]

Couldn't agree with you more I'm an Idiot. The MX-5 is such a fun car and the open top is great, but I've always preferred the 86 over it - just more 'me'.

[@Will0w_0n.F0urs]

Thanks mates. It's the Toyota 86 for me then. Can't wait to own one.

[@DaveZalstein]

Awesome mate - good luck with it all :D

[@EVOKIN]

I'm really surprised by Subaru/Toyota/Scion never made this with 50/50 split rear seat back. Especially when you have to undo both latches to fold it down.

[@DaveZalstein]

Hey EVOKIN, I'm gonna guess the simple reason here: cost. It's surely way cheaper to have the single-piece backrest, then a 50:50 or 60:40 split-fold setup.

[@Austinomon]

This is so interesting to see because in the last week I’ve been searching for a mod for the car to add just that feature, I’ve searched everywhere and have had no luck for anyone interested in the topic.

[@DaveZalstein]

Hi Ace Morales, not sure how you'd go with a mod for the backseat backrest. I haven't heard of anything like that, and I'm pretty sure there might be engineering regulations around changing it (depending on what country you're in), so be careful and make sure you get sound advice and information ;-)

[@Austinomon]

Dave Zalstein I think literally cutting it down the middle and having someone with some decent stitching skills just close it off would suffice lol.

[@DaveZalstein]

Haha perhaps... but I think there are issues with having it engineered correctly, so just make sure it's safe ;-)

[@crisstruss6211]

I got a spare tire & tire tools with mine..👍

[@DaveZalstein]

Lucky duck - well done! Hope you liked the video :D

[@crisstruss6211]

@@DaveZalstein loved the video..🏎

[@DaveZalstein]

​@@crisstruss6211 Awesome! Thanks for the positive feedback and hopefully you'll share it around. Take care and stay safe. Cheers :D

[@saulespino2510]

good video, so the car gas dual exhaust tips not dual exhaust

[@DaveZalstein]

Yup. Dual-exit system :)

[@janhampe2149]

Is your Car damaged? Your Steering wheel is in the wrong Site ;) its a lil shitty to Shift with the legt hand

[@donaldzuramp4404]

haters need to take this to a mountain pass, thats all

[@DaveZalstein]

Igneos Kai, people who know, know. That is all. Hehe Couldn't agree with you more though ;-)

[@ragingsky1401]

its a NA legend so no turbo from factory ever! if u want one do it your self or buy a 2020 "Supra"

[@Captain_Brown_Beard]

Its a great car to daily to work as it gets good MPG and handles stupid insane. Just dont try to race any Crossover SUVs cause they smoke it lol

[@DaveZalstein]

Haha all very valid points Captain Brown Beard ;-)

[@Captain_Brown_Beard]

Im in the same boat with my project car. Its a BMW 540i with a V8 and a new Ford Escape Ecoboost would blow me out of the water in a drag race. lol

[@DaveZalstein]

Lol.

[@DaveZalstein]

Slightly malicious, but I get where you're coming from haha.

[@Captain_Brown_Beard]

haha yeah I could do that around here in WV. Id still take the BRZ over any of those stupid crossovers any day. My buddy has his done up with everything but boost and its awesome. Sounds awesome too.

[@mikesantos011]

I test drove a newish BRZ and the seats were very uncomfortable and had some of the worst road noise out of any car that I've ever driven. Is the 86 better in these aspects? Important because this would be a daily driver

[@DaveZalstein]

Hi Zozo, as far as I'm aware, most of those elements will likely be identical in the 86. Road noise can be affected by the type of tyre fitted to the car, so that may have played a part, but personally anyway, I've never found the seats in an 86 all that uncomfortable at all.

[@K03sport]

cool shirt mate...I really like this car, but I like its twin, the BRZ better. Yes, 97% of the cars are the same and the US has slightly different colors and trim packages, but the BRZ does it better for me than the 86. I like toyota colors (Neptune and Ocean), but the WR Blue is just fine in the BRZ. Add some gold/bronze wheels, some '555' decals and done. As good as the GT-S/Limited trims and the PP package is, I'm more of a GT/Premium person even though the higher trims and yet higher packaged cars get some good stuff, I think the base trim has plenty and don't ruin the driver experience or actual operation of the car. US$28k-29k is where the car I want falls as opposed to US$31k-33k for the more optioned ones.

[@DaveZalstein]

Hey K03sport, glad you like the vid, the car, and my shirt - it's a Festival of 86 shirt signed by Keiichi Tsuchiya :D Totally hear ya on the spec etc though. I'd totally go with a base GT and spend extra coin on stickier rubber and probably upgraded brakes (although the PP Brembos and Sachs dampers are pretty spot on). Cheers man.

[@M2-G87-R]

🐢💨

[@DaveZalstein]

Haha

[@uz--ps9wl]

ハチロク

[@DaveZalstein]

You know it! Hachis for lyfe :D

[@jaster705]

do they still do the fake engine noise?

[@Malapropify]

As in the same "fake" as a 5.0 Mustang, Focus ST or many Merc AMG models? Then yes.

[@DaveZalstein]

Yeah, sorry jasfest, Malapropify is spot on. The noise isn't so much 'fake' or 'synthesised' like it is on some BMW models (for example), it's simply 'enhanced' via some plastic piping from the air intake. Not fake, just made more prominent.

[@jithinnu1868]

Which country is this ???

[@DaveZalstein]

Haha, hi JITHIN NU, this is in Australia. That help?

[@jithinnu1868]

Dave Zalstein Thanks for your reply.. Iam from India and I love this car.. This car is not for sale in India,nizz review too👍💓 💓👍

[@DaveZalstein]

You might just have to come to Australia to own one ;-)

[@brightenupcc]

Let me guess, someone else kerbed the front passenger side rim? 😆✌️

[@DaveZalstein]

Haha indeed they did YH. This car was a Toyota Australia press/media vehicle (not my own), and unfortunately some previous drivers were clearly not as careful as they should've been. Cheers for watching and for commenting - stay safe :D

[@darrylflowers4785]

I wonder when Toyota is going to bump up the power in the 86 that would be sweet.....

[@DaveZalstein]

Hey Darryl Flowers, well it did receive a small increase as part of the 2017 update - from 147kW to 152kW - but not sure I'd be holding my breath for much more. Perhaps a second-gen 86 will have more on tap, but we'll have to wait and see.

[@JMB1891]

New one on the way for 2020, probably with a decent power upgrade.

[@wretchedslippage3255]

Fuck my 18' didnt come with nav or the red stitching!

[@DaveZalstein]

Hmmm, Aussie-delivered car or are you overseas? As mentioned in the video, the red trim is part of the Dynamic Package option when you go with this Moonslate Grey colour, but in Australia, nav is standard on both the base GT and top spec GTS.

[@EM-km8em]

This car while beautiful it lacks something. Very few are out in the street and the only one that has somewhat caught my attention is the pearl white. But it seems like Toyota lacks something in their modern designs. It seems like they are trying hard to cut corners to save money, the car interior feels extremely hollow, cheap, as if all efforts were meant to save money no matter what. The golden era of japanese “ sports “ cars was without doubt the 1980’s-1990’s The real Top Dogs were heavily enthusiasts involved in all aspects of production, and design in their cars. Most important they were heavily competitive trying to Japan as a top caliber competitor in the world and I believe they did! Todays cars especially Toyotas, Nissans, and Hondas feel like they are disposable hollow cheap efforts to make money instead of masterpieces.

[@DaveZalstein]

I hear ya E M. Modern Japanese cars are certainly a mixed bag, and the Golden Era will most definitely remain so. Let's see what Toyota does with the new Supra, and hope that others can once again find their fire. Cheers for watching and commenting too - much appreciated.

[@Slamdoxicalz]

the lens doesn't do it justice, as if there's a soft fisheye effect

[@DaveZalstein]

Hi Slamdoxicalz, yeah, I hear ya. Not sure if a setting was different but I'll do my best to make sure it doesn't get so fisheye next time. Appreciate the feedback though, and hope you still enjoyed the video.

[@Slamdoxicalz]

Oops, yeah, the video is good nonetheless. It's mostly noticeable at shots like 1:57 - it's more streamlined in person.

[@DaveZalstein]

I know, bit odd but glad it didn't distract too much from the rest of the video.

[@KuSQ3N]

toyota plz add a turbo

[@westvillage321]

initial-D

[@DaveZalstein]

Totes!

[@ToxiclRevieved]

now i wanna trade in my 2013 for a new one

[@DaveZalstein]

Sorry? Haha You in Oz or OS?

[@kamilo5078]

If you like it so much why don't you buy it so that you could drive it every day?

[@DaveZalstein]

Hey Kamil O, there's a simple answer to this: money haha. If I had the coin to afford one, trust me, I'd have one. Cheers for watching though and for joining the discussion.

[@PL888HI]

Can Toyota 86 substitute Porsche Cayman?

[@dontbeinconsideratetoanybo7237]

i'd buy a cayman but 1 new cayman cost = 3 new 86 gts.. and not everyone has spare $100k to buy a fun car :D

[@DaveZalstein]

Hey PL888 中美日, thanks for watching and for commenting. I'd have to agree with Dont be inconsiderate to anybody in that the two aren't quite equal to compare - given the price difference between them. That said, as much as I think a Cayman is an exquisitely brilliant piece of kit, I'd actually favour an 86 over one to be honest. But hey, that's just me.

[@AntonHu]

The problem I found with the Cayman (which I actually set out to buy before ending up with an 86), is that I needed to be driving at illegal speeds before it came alive and fun, whereas the 86 is fun at legal speeds. Unfortunately, the Cayman doesn't come with an exemption from the traffic rules...

[@BlatentlyFakeName]

Yea with cars like the Cayman your fun is limited on the road. You need to drive it fast to explore the limits as it will just grip and grip and being mid engined it's much scarier if you lose grip (as it will want to spin). But the gt86 will happily drift around corners all day long at 15mph if you want :P

[@DaveZalstein]

Way to make us all jealous Patrick Ooi haha. Sounds like you've got quite the garage and genuinely enjoy driving - it's good to hear :D

[@ryanctliu]

I like this car but my wife doesn’t like any coupe :(

[@DaveZalstein]

It's okay mate, this is why so many people get a divorce - jokes haha.

[@ryanctliu]

Dave Zalstein that’s why I got a HSV gen-f2 GTS instead 😁 (both have GTS in the name) and I’m going to upgrade her to another level walkinshaw W557 this week😍

[@DaveZalstein]

@@ryanctliu Lol

[@timwilson5471]

Ha ha, trade in your ute on one Dave !!

[@DaveZalstein]

Perish the thought Tim! Such blasphemy on my YT channel - how dare you haha :D

[@Alonsos305]

I hate pushbutton start. . .

[@DaveZalstein]

I hear ya Stephan Alonso, I'm a key guy myself ;-) What you driving?

[@miatand1156]

No complaints with the review or the reviewer but fish eye camera just stupid let alone all the camera movement.

[@DaveZalstein]

Hi Mia Tand, glad you like me and the review, but sorry to hear your other feedback. I'm just doing these vids solo, so I'll keep working at improving them as best I can. Have you watched any of my other videos?

[@Too-Gq-For-You]

needs a turbo

[@DaveZalstein]

You drunk Too Gq For You, no it doesn't :-P

[@jacobmees8040]

It's like they keep trying to make it worse every revision. I'm glad I have a 2015...

[@DaveZalstein]

Haha, really Jacob Mees? Interesting. What don't you like about the newer cars? Looks or other things? I'm intrigued...

[@jacobmees8040]

Mostly the anesthetics. It's nice they've improved the torque dip and final drive ratio, but that's also very easily rectified with headers and a tune on any 86. The new dash/steering wheel goes against the wonderful minimialistic approach to the car. That little display makes my OCD rage... especially when the 2015 BRZ is basically the perfect/ideal 90's Japanese import style cluster with the orange background and simple gauges. Aesthetically, the new bumper is just horrible looking imo, and then adding on the 86 badge to the side of the car is tacky, the new tail lights... while I don't like the old, are also not great. Especially compared to the Valenti Revo's. That carbon trim you pointed out... also tacky... mainly since it doesn't match anything else to the interior changes. I do like that they are doing the padding on the knee area's from the factory now though, and the dash hood. Just... generally I like the simpler look and feel of the original cars over the modern ones. Mostly though, it's that tacky little dash screen that's split inside multiple gauges :)

[@jacobmees8040]

Also, just wanted to say a fantastic video and over-view of the changes as well!

[@DaveZalstein]

All really fair and valid points mate, and well clarified. I hate buttons on the steering wheel too, so I'd always lean towards a base GT and not a GTS (but then you miss out on the knee pads). Really appreciate the positive feedback too man. Glad you're digging the vids :D

[@playlistajimenez5567]

It is a low torque sports car.

[@TomasRay]

I would paint over these brake clipper to black in no time.

[@yan5362]

Why?

[@Basih]

It should've come with a turbocharged from factory..

[@DaveZalstein]

Honestly doesn't need one Basih - I promise haha.

[@PrimoStracciatella]

It's your opinion against the Toyota mechanics department's...

[@yan5362]

Nice exterior but poor interior. Need more esthetics. Have a mazda 3 2017 and want this but the interior refrain me from buying this

[@DaveZalstein]

The 86/BRZ isn't for everybody Yan, but for me, I quite like the basic interior - simple, straightforward, and everything's where you need it. Cheers for watching and commenting. Drive safe.

[@swanblake]

I don't think this car has aged well. 2019 Mazda Miata with its upgraded power will really put the 86 back even further. Toyota is just so lazy. The car doesn't need power, it needs torque. The comparison to the S14 and S15 was a bit unfair in my opinion as you ignored torque. S15 had more torque

[@DaveZalstein]

I hear ya re the torque thing Blake, but S14 and S15 also have a turbocharger ;-) I don't mind the look, but if I had my own 86, I think it'd have the BRZ headlights and likely a Rocket Bunny kit... because I'm an idiot haha.

[@a7xcarter]

I think the car has aged well design wise, and there a rumors of the 2020 getting the 2.4L engine, which is good. Honestly, I'd take lighter weight over more power (that handling would be incredible) However, it's still incredibly fun, especially autocrossing

[@DaveZalstein]

Autocross in an 86 sounds like fun Carter Nivens :D And I hear ya on the weight thing. Imagine a 1000kg 86 - that'd be cool.

[@hysaito6448]

Slightly optimistic 260 hahahaha

[@DaveZalstein]

Haha you've gotta dream HY Saito, you've gotta dream :-P

[@phaedruslykos3249]

I like it but I wouldn't buy it new. Advanced Machinery, when looked after by a decent human being, doesn't really age. Not like humans.

[@DaveZalstein]

I reckon an 86/BRZ is one of the best second-hand options out there Isaac Gecas. Solid product and a really fun car, but if you can get one in reasonable condition for a good price, it's a cracking proposition :D

[@Shinko666]

To bad its only 200bhp... I don’t want to buy a car and modify it to make it fun and lose the warranty:/

[@DaveZalstein]

Woah woah woah, "I don’t want to buy a car and modify it to make it fun"? Clearly not an import guy haha. Modifying a car to make it fun, is fun Shinko666. And if an 86 doesn't have enough power for you stock, just buy a different car - easy ;-)

[@Shinko666]

Dave Zalstein i dont mind to buy a slow car and make it fast this is what’s I did with my 335i I just don’t want to buy a car brand news and lose the only good thing about it the warranty I love the way it look but for the price they ask and then I would need to put 10k into it to make it fast and fun and also lose all type of warranty it’s just not appealing to me I love Toyota I just pray the god they will make a other nice and fast car out of the factory right now I am looking for a Lexus isf this might be my saving grace

[@DaveZalstein]

Perhaps you should put some money down on a new Supra? We'll have to wait and see...

[@Shinko666]

Dave Zalstein yeah I hope so but so far news around the new supra are pretty negative not much power bmw engine overpriced I will wait and see for my selfs I hope all the negativity is just a false alarme 🙃

[@DaveZalstein]

Fingers crossed it's just a false alarm. Also, how much power is enough for you? Haha. It seems every car we've spoken about isn't enough for you man haha.

[@sunrider7956]

ye but it sucks on a straight line

[@DaveZalstein]

That's easy to rectify Xun Jiang, just find some bends :-)

[@Malapropify]

If all you need a car for is a straight line, then might as well sit on a rocket.

[@DaveZalstein]

Lol.