The Sopranos: The Other Families

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[@PureKino]

RIP Ray Liotta. Without Goodfellas, there would be no Sopranos

[@fountaindrink1715]

RIP

[@scottsodyssey2485]

What you gonna do? At least he didn't suffer.

[@madjs1]

Yeah its sad when they go like that

[@Fallwax]

@@madjs1 WHEN THEY GO?!

[@s.h.7613]

Absolutely! RIP to an acting giant

[@kingoneil4644]

5 families The glorified crew The shineboxes The jacket That animal blundetto And whatever happened there

[@nihaalsandim9986]

And that little gabagool thing in new jersey

[@victorsforza5578]

@@nihaalsandim9986 gabagool??!ovah here.. bhehehhe

[@nickiacono9574]

Dying 🤣

[@mikepastor.k6233]

Two black guys running that way..

[@victorsforza5578]

@@mikepastor.k6233 those 2 guys.. bhehehhe

[@scottsodyssey2485]

A Don doesn't wear shorts - Carmine Lupertazzi

[@danieljohnson2005]

Tell Junior he’s in our prayers, etcetera.

[@scottsodyssey2485]

@@danieljohnson2005 Alright, let me get the fuck outta here.

[@victorsforza5578]

He was gay carmine lupertazzi?.. heheheh

[@scottsodyssey2485]

@@danieljohnson2005 That ones a slippery fuck huh, him and those big fish lips of his.

[@serotoninsyndrome]

Hmm. No. I smell cut grass...

[@tedwojtasik8781]

IRL, the Jersey Mob, the DeCavalcante Family was pretty much a glorified crew as they only had a total of about 60 members compared to an average of around 200 per NY family. However, the NJ family, though small, brought in more money than any NY family due to all the harbor, shipping, and sanitation contracts plus they controlled 90% of all construction in both NJ & NY. The actual equivalent of the Luppertazzi Family are the Gambino's as it was the Gambino's who worked directly with the NJ DeCavalcante Family.

[@danielhamilton1130]

P

[@Hugh_Morris]

Ahh very cool, thank you for the information mate

[@Edvinas97]

saw documentary about them, and you are right

[@vivelagauche3564]

I agree in spirit but I gotta counsel...

[@willmosse3684]

Being smaller than a NY family doesn’t make them a glorified crew. Nationally speaking, 60 made members is still a big family. It’s actually New York that is unusual for having such large families.

[@lonelynightlights]

Even rival families settled their differences amicably. Tony: "Oh yeah, I remember that picture of Albert Anastasia lying there all amicable on the barbershop floor." 🤣 I just love James Gandolfini!💌

[@SteadyRoosevelt]

@@hawk66100 You gonna be a fuckin funny boy too?!

[@breadman5048]

Hey how’s the boy? Which boy Tone?

[@SteadyRoosevelt]

@@breadman5048 The one you sleep with

[@hawk66100]

@@breadman5048 The one you sleep with.

[@agedefyingfitness]

What’s not to ❤️ love? I agree with you 100%! RIP James. We still and will always love ❤️ you.

[@oldschool657]

RIP Ray Liotta. Without the legendary Henry Hill, there would be no Sopranos.

[@amarevanhook7453]

🕊

[@pepironi992]

Gay

[@flightofthebumblebee9529]

Narc was his best film ever.

[@mikaahkana160]

@@flightofthebumblebee9529 never seen it. Gonna check it out Ty. Any other good movies to watch?

[@mikaahkana160]

Not sure I agree with this. What’s the logic here. Without David chase and James gandolfini there would be no sopranos Henry hill was a stool pigeon, a coke head rat. Deniros character played a meth head Who died in prison broke with no friends. No one came to see him. I know this first hand I know the nurse that watched him die. He had one person there. A aunt or great aunt who was like 105 years old. Both not full blood Italian. Both really just bad people. Lufthansa was impressive. I will give credit where it’s due. And they did run that airport like a fine tuned machine.

[@chunkymilk]

0:35 ‘so, consider this a bit of an amendum’ Little Carmine over here.

[@ginomodugno5707]

Rip Ray Liotta 1954-2022

[@darioorgiano4823]

Historically, the Genovese and the Lucchese families had the strongest grip on New Jersey. No doubt the final events of the Sopranos are inspired to the “whack Jersey” order sent by Victor Amuso, Lucchese boss from Brooklyn, like Phil Leonardo

[@TheFightHubb]

Definitely, there was even a ‘mistaken identity’ murder there too on a civilian just like in the Sopranos

[@TheFightHubb]

And those real life jersey guys also went into hiding out of fear for getting whacked like in the sopranos

[@alexibarona5807]

I also always thought the Lupertazzis were losely based on the Lucchese family, which would make them the 3rd or 4th strongest family. Definitely stronger than the Colombos, and also bigger than the DiMeo/Soprano family which was inspired by the actual Jersey based Cosa Nostra organization, the Decavalcante family.

[@Buugzy]

So did Gambinos.

[@Buugzy]

@@alexibarona5807 Lupertazzis are based on Gambinos

[@zanderzaza4947]

Rip tony siciro 🙏🏼 AKA PAULIE WALNUTS 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@g_eddie]

Kino sending us off with a deep cut there from Richie Aprile. Very allegorical.

[@CLxJames]

You know Quasimodo predicted all of this

[@hawk66100]

And the propane.

[@nickiacono9574]

Very allegorical 🤣

[@concars1234]

veal parmesan sangwich?

[@kiers1970]

Irregardless

[@1964BigSlug]

Freaky, while watching this just found out Ray Liotta passed away in his sleep

[@etc2913]

Damn it’s true

[@littlekingtrashmouth9219]

Whoa! RIP

[@joshruiz809]

RIP to a legend!

[@LateToThaParty]

Very progressive of Brooklyn, letting the Shah of Iran be their boss.

[@billymabum3514]

A gay guy too

[@airmackeeee6792]

He took that Veal Parm sandwich off of Rocky DiMeo, the toughest short order cook in Essex County.

[@playerunkown8699]

RIP Ray Liotta He played the best grand theft auto protagonist Tommy Vercetti In my opinion that his best performance ever his face isnt even in the game He only used his voice and that was already magic

[@VideoGamesAndTheWorld]

Since you mentioned Ray Liotta, may he rest in peace. Good video Kino, as always.

[@joseorozco4152]

I randomly whisper that Richie Aprile line to my wife when things get quiet.

[@nihaalsandim9986]

Which line ?

[@joseorozco4152]

@@nihaalsandim9986 “veal parmigiana sangweech…fack yoouuu”

[@atlasking6110]

I always took the Soprano Family to be based on Families like the Magaddino Family that ran WNY. The Magaddinos were associated with the Bonanno family as their required 5 Families association, but were powerful enough both before and after the Commission to be allowed to operate quasi-independently as The Sopranos mostly do. They even represented themselves at Appalachin. Good point on the real Five Families being rattled off though...just bad continuity I take it.

[@antoinesilva1527]

Sounds about right. The DiMeo crime family in The Sopranos seems way more powerful than the actual DeCavalcante.

[@Emory_OrginalG_Tate]

They weren’t allow to operate independently by the commission they were a part of the commission. They were one of the 2 first family to gain a seat on the commission outside of the New York along with the outfit in 1931/1932.

[@smellsuperb1]

@@antoinesilva1527 the NJ family is/was the oldest mob family in the US. Over time they were just less organized and more incarcerated. Chalk that up to low intellect and an inability to stay out of the spotlight.

[@Star207]

The series is partly inspired by the Richard Boiardo family, a prominent New Jersey organized crime family when Chase was growing up, and partly on New Jersey's DeCavalcante family.

[@voiceofreason2674]

I thought they were based on the proper family and that’s the partridge family

[@mickeymouse3933]

Rip Ray liotta what an actor, without his portrayal of Henry hill the masterpiece known as the sopranos would have never happened!

[@willissudweeks1050]

Copied

[@timsans1170]

HE WAS A SAINT!

[@bpaajcisna5595]

To be considered: the families are only called what they are because Joe Valachi named them based on their then bosses. They may just be calling the 5 families names based on their current leaders.

[@seansmith6255]

That's what I assume Since they occasionally call the DeMeos the sopranos

[@DestructionOfRome]

I think how it can be explained is they informally refer to the families by their current leadership. Most of the characters referenced either died, got locked up, or stepped down before the series took place. In universe there was a change in some of the histories of the five families, but they’re still the same families.

[@thedoveston6781]

This was actually the formal arrangement until the Kefauver Hearings. Genovese soldier Joe Valachi testified before Congress as to the structure of the American Mafia. He was only a Genovese soldier because the boss at the time happened to be Vito Genovese. They'd previously been known as the Morello, Terranova, Morello (again), Masseria, Luciano, Genovese, Costello, and then finally Genovese. In the televised report before Congress, the world heard the names of the various families for the first time. It wasn't actually made clear that the families were generally named after the current boss, and people just assumed they were always called that. In fact the only family that was always known by the same name were the Bonannos, because Joe Bonanno had been boss since the family was officially named, and the names stuck after they were revealed to the public.

[@retroroy8720]

I used to think the Lupertazzis were the Sopranos universe equivalent of the Gambino Family given how large and powerful they were, plus the parallels between Carlo Gambino and Carmine Lupertazzi. I chalked up the references to the Five Families in Season 1 as "early installment weirdness" but then we get the references in the later seasons to guys like Colombo and Bonanno and now that I think about it, I'll go with the idea that New York City has Six Families in The Sopranos universe instead of the Five Families in our universe. Still doesn't make any sense, but eh, I'll roll with it.

[@Napoleon2001]

Always thought they were either bonnao or lucchese

[@slingblade6651]

I thought they were gambino also because John resembles John Gotti imo haha

[@CLxJames]

New York doesn’t have six families in The Sopranos. To quote Phil “We’ve got five fucking families and then we got this pygmy thing over in Jersey”

[@CLxJames]

@@slingblade6651 remember: Cusamano’s golf buddies asked Tony about John Gotti, so Gotti and the Gambino family exist. Also recall that Paulie said “I barely survived by the skin of my nuts back when the Colombos were going at it”. So that means the Colombos exist as well

[@retroroy8720]

@@CLxJames I know. I even acknowledged that even that theory doesn't actually work, as fun as it may sounnd

[@SSJ4Omega]

RIP Ray Liotta

[@pennystocklocks]

RIP Ray Liotta

[@NorthAmericanEditing]

Fuck when did he pass?

[@pennystocklocks]

Few hours ago...found out on Twitter..shame he quit smoking too

[@Skyrdr]

This is something I have thought way too much about. Glad you did a video on it.

[@roguebritgravy1]

Maybe the Lupertazzi's are a part of 1 family that over time came into the Lupertazzi's control. I was blown away by Liotta's passing. He went too soon. RIP

[@TheKATON132]

My guess is they are based on one of the 5 families but the producers didn’t want to use the real names because they still exist. If they had used one of the real family names and they reached out to the producers saying “why are you making characters out of our family and making us look bad some times?” Better to just avoid the problems

[@chalesmeyers2727]

It’s comical how he gets plenty of warning he is passing out but never sits down to keep from hitting the ground

[@stevezac_cptlpnshmnt]

Because when it happens, sitting down feels worse. I get panic attacks too... And as soon as I feel one coming I get up, walk around and breathe deep.

[@douglascarr8045]

Yes, indeed. I was socked in the gut hearing about Mr Liottas passing. So sad. Rest easy. God bless.

[@fazeyou58_]

Perfect ending - one of my favorite quotes as well - When you started the bit, I swear that's the scene that popped in my head and then boom, its Richie and Beansie - well done

[@fazeyou58_]

Thanks for acknowledging - That is awesome - Great video

[@NorthAmericanEditing]

Love your work Kino, can’t wait till your channel blows up in a year or two especially when and if you start covering Better Call Saul. Salud to the Kino family 🤌🍷

[@tylerlittle499]

Rest In Peace Ray Liotta

[@alanbrady7116]

I just seen this news, I'll always remember him as Henry Hill. RIP Mr Liotta and thanks for the memories

[@TheEagleEye218]

RIP to the legend Ray Liotta

[@cavemanzach9475]

Great video as always Kino

[@bobby.m136]

"I'm non an expert on real life mafia history like so many of commenters claim to be." -Real words spoken

[@billbixby557]

Great breakdown, i love the research you did to provide us with another great video!

[@georgiodelaface2941]

Do the Vipers family next

[@Emory_OrginalG_Tate]

The New England crime family is an other named given to the Rhode Island/Boston crime family . And there’s also a mention of philly in season 2 .

[@rjgesq.8967]

whats is up Kino, Sopranos fan here.

[@Jay-Jay_007]

Lupertazzi best fits Lucchese. With the the real life Lucchese boss once giving an order to 'Whack Jersey' kinda mirrors what happened in Sopranos

[@uTubeNoITube]

*meanwhile, Little Carmine* "The fundamental question is, will I be as effective as a boss like my dad was? And I will be, even more so? But until I am, it's going to be hard to verify that I think I'll be more effective."

[@XAzzuroX]

Fun video glad I found ur channel. U really dug deep in this

[@sammartinez8084]

Great show and thanks for the info 👍👍👍👍👍

[@vickissv3]

“Amendum” How Little Carmine of you

[@theculturedthug6609]

Why can't we have another show similar to The Sopranos in the same universe but with the different family???

[@aaronyochim9779]

Because this isn’t breaking bad.

[@markymark8]

Very late reply but its probably because we wouldn't be allowed to have a show these days where anybody has their feelings hurt or someone uses a slur against somebody else 😅

[@DaveSCameron]

another class piece of work from your channel of finest quality and peerless material, best wishes once again young man from all over the pond here in England 👍🇬🇧🔥💯

[@pauldorazi]

Excellent content!

[@romansultan13]

Great video!

[@davidshamiri1448]

Kino doing summaries of other shows is like Jordan playing baseball

[@shaneodwyer6132]

The Lucchese Family has always had major ties to NJ so it's a good fit

[@KidFresh71]

Yes! My favorite line of the series! Perfect ending.

[@ssgcringe5978]

Great video Kino! Enjoy this content.

[@Jman417]

" Never go against the family Fredo" Godfather 1.

[@philrobertson2995]

Great analysis!

[@geordiejones5618]

I do enjoy how little the viewer knows about how people in other families bc thats how it is in real life you wouldn't meet random guys from other families all the time. You stick to your territory and brush up on boundaries. I always thought it was implied that the Lupertazzis were the biggest or most respected family bc they deal with Jersey exclusive and the power struggle for the top spot implies its worth more than other top spots.

[@cardi8325]

I’d love to see a tier list ranking of all characters in the sopranos...I’m sure my boy Richie would be up there!

[@Crunchy_Troll]

Imagine if David Chase actually expanded on the other families and other organizations that were operating around the time

[@Crunchy_Troll]

@Vermouth I don’t

[@aaronrowell6943]

I'm glad you brought this up because somebody asked is Johnny sac even a member of the family he's trying to be boss of and this definitely clears it up I forgot about the little detail that he is an emissary for several families

[@joeyc8622]

He was Carmine’s underboss…fuckin fan boy.

[@albertbarese4170]

I pegged the Lupertazzis as being the in-universe version of the Luccheses, given that all of the other New York families and their leaders are mentioned in some form (with the exception of the Lucchese family.)

[@RedStl]

Lucchese/Lupertazzi.. not much of a stretch at all. And the fact that a lot of the things in the show seem to be based on some real life events between the Lucchese’s and Jersey, I’d say you’re correct.

[@davef.2811]

All the minutia aside, one of the best series ever produced.

[@ResistanceQuest]

Extremely interesting and well made video

[@halfdayofthejackal9372]

Definitely the Luccheses fit best, Gambinos are excluded via the references and the Luccheses also had strong ties to New Jersey

[@andy42x]

Wow. Impressive content. And great curation of clips from the show to go with your analysis. Soft drinks of choice! 🥤

[@Dudemandudeman19]

Great stuff

[@himmydawg]

Thanks for the breakdown! I had no clue of the history of the crews.

[@matthewvolb94]

I absolutely love your videos man if you ever decide to do another show can you give the prison show Oz at least some consideration?

[@samanthagreen9639]

YOU ARE PHENOMENAL!!!!

[@victorsforza5578]

RIP RAY LIOTTA 1954-2022.. BONNANAMO.. 🌈💜💛

[@AgentRafa]

So, where does Borko and his Serbian family fit into this?

[@tp230]

That pigmy thing over in Serbia ??

[@Thurmanatr16]

Plain and simple, we decapitate and do business with other KZbin channels.

[@AgentRafa]

@@Thurmanatr16 Take it easy, we're not making a Western here!

[@nathaninostroza7655]

@@Thurmanatr16 etikkboksen wanted our attention, fine. He got our attention. Now we wipe him off the planet.

[@user-cv7uk5xu5g]

Great work as usual! I have to say, Angelo could have kept his consigliere title in prison for purely honorific means with an acting consigliere in place. Happened in real life too. I’m not a mafia expert by any means, naturally, just know a thing or two. I might be wrong, of course. I don’t want to be a smartass, but a family from Philly is also mentioned.

[@antoniocortes3901]

Always a good time when Kino uploads a Sopranos video! How about for a video idea listing every (known characters only) possible last episode killer?

[@gwave0308]

This makes sense for carmine to take over one of the other 5 families. Because if carmine family was their own mafia why aren't they call the 6 families. If they were their own family they would be call the 6 families not the 5 families.

[@Stormshawty]

You also forgot another family! The Vipers!

[@frankreynolds9418]

What's that? You're Girl Scout troop?

[@ThomasA.]

You forgot the most dangerous of them all. The vipers! 🤣

[@uTubeNoITube]

Okay you've got some good vids going here you earned a new sub. :)

[@PureKino]

Welcome to the crew!

[@elvincolon8340]

Rest In Peace to Ray Liotta

[@Galvatronover]

2:04 rip ray

[@Star207]

The series is partly inspired by the Richard Boiardo family, a prominent New Jersey organized crime family when Chase was growing up, and partly on New Jersey's DeCavalcante family.

[@flippgoofman1868]

Fascinating.

[@laz7774]

Ray Liotta RIP

[@Braunschweider]

Always wanted more information on the other 4 NY families (if they're four in the Sopranoverse)

[@hdjksa52]

This connects _Good Fellas_ with _The Sopranos_

[@aljwham]

Interesting insight

[@Rioitaly12345]

Good shit

[@kidlast4154]

when they speak of multiple bosses in family he's speaking about a "front boss" basically a decoy like fat Tony with the genovese

[@HEKVT]

I wonder if anyone in the family that the Lupertazzi is baded on did 20 years in the can, at least that's how long I think Phil did, he didn't mention it a lot.

[@laviebanale]

RIP Ray Liotta aka Goodfella.

[@abrahamhernandez334]

That ending quote marón!

[@DblTap317]

Possible he became boss of a family but didn't get the official name change until later. I'd imagine that would be a vote of respect by others vs a guy renaming it after himself.

[@agedefyingfitness]

You’re damn smart dude. Great 👍 channel. Peace

[@murphy9238481]

R.I.P Ray

[@ecinaz]

This is like Sopranos masterclass..

[@hornylorney8150]

Gambinos. Tony says they have 200 soldiers in the family so that narrows it down to Gambino or Genovese....but also Agent Harris describes Tony's problem being "with Brooklyn" which is much more Gambino territory than Genovese

[@kingcityonline9674]

He says 100, which to me narrows it down to the other 3. Lucheese is my guess. Big in Jersey.

[@Phil_Burton]

This whole thing is a good example of GRRM's idea of writers as "gardeners" or "architects" with the Sopranos writers clearly being the former. That is they never planned out a whole universe from the get go, rather they just let it evolve over the course of the show (see other examples like how they reconed Feech La Mana etc) kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5ymdZisn7Z8idk

[@jacobveryberry]

I feel like even in sopranos era someone could manage being consigliere from inside with enough soldiers.

[@blackgeekfandom]

The shade on the commentators. 😂 Experts. 👍

[@victorsforza5578]

Borkos gonna come by soon and tell us all a couple, treee things . Hehe

[@Thepilotepisode]

Nice video. Junior asks Carmine about his Rico trial in season four. It’s possible carmine wasn’t mentioned in the season one final by the prosecutor because he was trail at the point.

[@jasonvoorhees310]

Neva had the makings of a variety athlete.

[@79darrinsmith]

It's an alternate time line in a multiverse that splits off at some point in the 90's. That's why the other real life families still exist and are mentioned in the show. Ask Dr. Strange.