The Sopranos: Was Johnny Sack A Good Boss?

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[@stephencombes1979]

"offensive to guys like Phil who did their time honourably" Wait, Phil went to prison? He didn't mention that at all :-0

[@Lady_Boo]

Lol

[@theloosedonk5645]

He had to compromise

[@Big_Garf]

@@theloosedonk5645can you elaborate? What kind of bodily pleasures did the Shah of Iran deprive himself of?

[@Dabshanks]

Yeah they never mentioned Phil going to the can . They should make a series about Phil doing 20 years without a peep

[@Lady_Boo]

@@Dabshanks hmm...a Joey Peeps?

[@codymcgrath2.3bviews3secon7]

Sack just commanded so much respect on screen. His respect for his wife and willingness to fight for her honour was very admirable in a world of people who mistreat their wives.

[@codymcgrath2.3bviews3secon7]

@na6733 You know it wasn't long ago I remember you used to wait in the car, as far as I'm concerned you should still be there.

[@mikemilligan8461]

Their wives were okay with all of it. They were just leeches waiting for the paycheck and loved the respect and lifestyle without having to do anything, carmela happily turns her back after a few gifts and pats on the back from tony. They arent damsels in distress being mistreated by monsters, they know what they signed up for, they are accomplices. Doesnt mean they arent hypocrites claiming to be victims every chance they get though. Is it respectable or pathetic johnny doesnt see shit for how it really is? Its a weakness and everyone saw it.

[@codymcgrath2.3bviews3secon7]

@@mikemilligan8461 What do you mean see shit for what it really is. The man stood up for his wife

[@mikemilligan8461]

@@codymcgrath2.3bviews3secon7 he couldnt see that flying off the handle showed everyone his weakness, he couldnt see that his wife saw him as a paycheck, like every mob wife does. Johnny was brilliant, but he was a naive romantic and thats part of what brought him down. He was right for responding to the disrespect 100%, but to take it as far as a hit and beyond? Ridiculous and showed everyone how easy it is to play him like a fiddle. This fucking guy

[@theportugueselegend]

​@@codymcgrath2.3bviews3secon7The man was too emotional and correct to be a boss in that life. Johnny Sac was at his best when he was an emotionless businessman. As soon as he rose to be the boss and underboss, things got complicated

[@paulstrathern4309]

I always wondered whether Johnny Sack really changed after becoming boss or did becoming boss simply bring out his true personality.

[@ryankeefe2102]

Like sil said some guys are better at being number 2 he's good behind the scenes but not as the boss

[@ayoitsyayo]

@@ryankeefe2102yeah that always happens in any industry, legal or illegal sometimes who you saw with leadership traits will let their demons out once in the “boss” positions, ego is a huge thing to control

[@Quack_attack_]

​@@ryankeefe2102Sil proved he was a better #2 when Tony was in his coma Sil couldn't handle it and got taken away in an ambulance cuz he couldn't breath, couldn't breath, couldn't breath lol

[@IrishYobbo07]

As the saying goes "Absolute power corrupts"

[@00_00.1]

Do yall forget him and tonys conversations at the end of season 4?

[@GuyFawkes-di8pn]

i always love the awkward shots it always shows for Johnny Sack. Him on a Toilet. Calling Tony while wearing a paper gown while at the doctors office. changing in his jail cell with his high wasted underwear.

[@Buugzy]

Johnny Sac is the Oddfather.

[@bakkels]

I think it's done deliberately to offset him in general just being more classy looking than the rest of them. It's that contrast that made it funny imo.

[@ChicagoLines88]

Johnny on the toilet in a doorless stall at the Bada Bing as he talks to Tony was a strange sight.

[@AnneHathawayRules]

​@@ChicagoLines88 who would dump in that stall? Gross. And Tony stood there smelling it 😂😂😂

[@EliasNektarios-ze2ls]

That’s how it goes when you’re locked up though

[@drfabulous2804]

One of the only characters who loved (and remained faithful to) his wife and who didn’t get whacked/killed by someone else. Died relatively peacefully with his family around him.

[@snakesmcgee7640]

Him, Bobby and... Yep, that's it.

[@siner2442]

He was weak and ended up cooperating… that’s his character.

[@CJVS995]

He had lung cancer and lost everything. No surprise he said screw it.

[@Tuchaczevsky]

The way Johnny smoked his cigs and took his time before spoke something is always making me fell chilly. What a strong personality

[@pkd.81]

Not a terrible boss? I'll tell ya one thing, and I'm not ashamed to say it. My estimation of Pure Kino as a content creator just fuckin' plummeted.

[@theramplocal]

Tell Don ho we said hi!👋

[@mrowley7300]

Loves the joke quotes

[@justherald1117]

Come on, when it comes to charismatic characters all bets are off. I've seen better content creators ignoring the flaws of characters they like.

[@eva_unit_01]

All due respect Ton' 🤚 you know I neva complain 🤚

[@LordTalax]

@@eva_unit_01 Skip the preambles

[@brandonmcgrew4367]

It’s impossible to not feel touched and warm inside seeing Johnny show true love to his wife unlike any of the other mobsters. He loved Ginny more than life itself and even if he was taking things to far we all had a smile on our face seeing the genuine love he had for Ginny. Such a great side character, such a great show:)

[@mIKE.TURNup]

Dude played that part so well. He could have had a spin off show

[@VideoGamesAndTheWorld]

Johnny Sack was one of the greatest characters in that show. He was definitely a great boss, and someone you definitely didn't wanna mess with. He was more level headed than Tony was. And one of the best things about him is that his marriage with Ginny was solid, unlike Tony and Carmela's which was toxic as fuck. At least he died surrounded by his loved ones. He didn't die whacked, he died surrounded by the people he loved the most, his wife Ginny and daughters Allegra and Catherine.

[@tomz5704]

my estimation of johnny sacramoni as a man f*ckin plummeted

[@VideoGamesAndTheWorld]

@@tomz5704 give him a break will ya? It's an emotional day

[@eljefemaximo5420]

​@@VideoGamesAndTheWorldno Tom's right. To cry like a woman? It's a f--king disgrace.

[@eljefemaximo5420]

Phil was 100 times better than Johnny as a boss. He did 20 years in the can he may have compromised on a couple things but he never said a peep and unlike John never said this thing of ours existed in a court of law. Also Phil knew how to handle fanooks on his crew. There are no scraps in Phil's scrapbook.

[@williamrogers9004]

​@@tomz5704he's just like Vito in my eyes after crying!! A Fanuuk

[@MrBjanders]

One of the smartest people ever in the show, who also made some of the stupidest decisions based purely on emotion. Great actor and great writing for him.

[@mahmoudibnemir8704]

In regards to the violence, I believe that John forgot what Carmine, Sr had once stuttered to Carmine Jr and that was that a pint of blood costs as much as a gallon of gold. Such profane words have never been more revenant to a situation such as this.

[@AdamIsInTheGulag]

He’s an old fashioned guy Kino, very allegorical.

[@timorthelame1]

...gave me my first hand job, me and Vincent Minascalco, in the alley behind the chicken market.

[@bradsmithstudios8881]

“I don’t stick my beak in”

[@Damidas]

Yet his beak was always stuck in somewheres

[@davidoneill7554]

If beaks could kill, that one certainly would!

[@nilanniruthan]

You know it wasn't long ago I remember you used to be the underboss...and as far as I'm concerned YOU SHOULD STILL BE THAT!

[@theramplocal]

Boss? Jersey? CMON!!!

[@triplek-dysongamingwithdan7771]

Could you do a video about what "running North Jersey" means? It first appears in the pilot when describing Tony by Junior, and people have dismissed this a pilot-ism and not canonical (rdit: since he acts more like the boss in the pilot and Jackie Aprile Sr. wasnt invented yet), but the term comes up again in the finale when Tony is telling a senile Junior that he and Johnny Boy "ran North Jersey."

[@Kinogotiate]

Tony's father and junior were the most powerful captains in their day. The old man Rocco Demaio crime family boss doesn't seem to have done much when he was the boss

[@DrJ-hx7wv]

I second this.

[@erickleefeld4883]

And in the view of New York people like Carmine Sr., Johnny, and Phil, being a “boss” in North Jersey is just a subordinate captain under the Lupertazzi family. You just have to humor them a little, and pretend they’re bosses (but don’t let them get too out of line). And the New Jersey guys know on some level that New York thinks of them this way, and they resent it.

[@case_0223]

I feel like there’s a line somewhere in the show that a different group or nobody has any business in south Jersey

[@aloneinthedark99]

Tony is more or less acting boss already when the series starts given Jackie's illness. The only crew not taking marching orders from him was Junior's.

[@elspanoo]

When johnny sack was on screen, you knew real mobster stuff was happening. Absolutely loved the character and performance! Great video Kino!

[@jeffreydillingham7630]

I love Johnny's volatile reactions and retorts.

[@odeleon24]

He saved his family. And on this comment board, Johnny Sack is an American hero Boss!

[@theramplocal]

In this comment section it's the 1950s

[@deewhale]

End of story!

[@sargonixofur1234]

Carmine was the last great boss, calm and calculating, and he died eating egg salad. No boss should go out like that! The younger generation were all too emotional and hot headed to be like Carmine. Kind of like how the real life mob changed from their old quiet total stranglehold on NYC to having ‘characters’ like Gotti who blew it with their hubris. Even Phil who thought he was old school was too emotional. But then he did 20 years in the can, not that he never told anyone…

[@GeometricPidgeon]

''quiet total stranglehold '', who are you kidding

[@jamesmorant1406]

He was a good boss, and now he was a little hot-headed, and his emotions got the best of him, but at least his he didn't beat up or kill his own men the way Tony did and he loved his wife

[@icaanul]

The part of this that shows Little Carmine was playing everyone... He didn't "surrender." He changed his gameplan. He even shrugged off calls for violence by saying, "That's not how I want to play this." and "It didn't have to be this way." To think he just gave up after everyone close to him was murdered is exactly WHY he was smarter than given credit for. Everyone underestimated him. Even the viewers and analysts. He took out his enemies without firing a single shot. He even partnered up with Chris to get closer to Tony, the guy that considered killing Carmine's father with Johnny and his crew. Little Carmine fooled everyone including the audience and was able to fill the box without risking any of his own bloodshed.

[@Guyote_]

Everyone says Little Carmine was an idiot. But in the end, he may have been the wisest of them all, knowing when to back out and live a peaceful life.

[@elsarios1091]

Kino, love that you keep on keeping with these videos. Love them so much!

[@tacitus6384]

There's an old saying that if you want to test a man's character, give him power. We can see that with Johnny Sack.

[@brandondrake14]

Johnny Sac had class in a rough around the edges, low life way. Perfect, proportionate combination.

[@AtomicSkull_]

Labour Day upload! thank you!

[@gregyoungman]

“I don’t stick my beak in” he says as he continues to stick his beak in.

[@QuickHittinEm]

John was my favorite character on the show

[@flightofthebumblebee9529]

Johnny let the boss title go to his head a bit, however he deserved it and had more honor and loyalty and integrity than the rest of them. He only bends the rules one time and that was taking the allocution (which he did for his wife and girls, not because he feared prison). Johnny died in peace surrounded by the girls who loved him so.

[@IrishYobbo07]

I always found it funny (in a hypocritical way) that Tony and co were running him down about the allocution, yet they never did serious time (Isn't like Johnny turned "rat"). Phil at least DID 20 YEARS so had a right to be more pissed off.

[@theboard3476]

Healthy as a rhino, this guy

[@kylekillgannon]

Johnny Sack became my favorite on repeat viewings. He's the closest thing Tony has to a peer and a real friend in the life. They both were absolutely better in their roles as before assuming power, and overall happier too. I love his ability to suck the air out of a room, and doing so with a ruthless level of professionalism. He and Carmine were true mobsters and they really made the Jersey set look bush league. The only time he ever shows rage towards his wife is not because of some personal slight against him, or some ego trip. It's because he came home and found her stuffing her face and ruining her diet. He was hurt and betrayed and it felt more close to love than any time Tony threw something at Carm. There's many factors that tighten the noose around his neck as he assumes the role of boss. And you can tell it ruins him emotionally. But he doesn't abuse his wife over it. He doesn't cheat. He keeps his job and his life separated. He instead let it ball up inside him and kill him slowly while the feds come down on him for the shit he stepped into and the shit Tony was surfacing with his growing recklessness. His death to me was the most heartbreaking in the show. He was such a proud man, and seeing him wither away while his family watched was tragic.

[@STONESGAM]

I think he would have been a good boss and relatively pragmatic with a focus on earning if he had the chance. He also carried himself like a boss and was well spoken and well dressed. He was official boss for only a couple episodes and then he was in prison. He had to deal with the Tony B/Philly Leotardo situation right off the bat. And then in season 6 part 1 he was basically just maneuvering to keep his power when he was incarcerated. I think he would have been a good boss yes. He had a very nice house and a flashy car but he was a family man and not out clubbing and doing stupid and sleazy stuff like many of the other mobsters.

[@alexmuenster2102]

We know that Tony S. did coke (with Adriana) - but I just can't see Johnny Sacks doing drugs.

[@IrishYobbo07]

​@@alexmuenster2102Think it would have been too "degenerate" of behaviour for Johnny to engage in that sort of activity.

[@ElleSimon-wi1cm]

2:36 Tony was a real expert at humiliation. John was a pragmatist (and well-read with his "Creeps on this petty pace") with a hair-trigger temper and violent tendencies, but I had to admire his unconditional love and loyalty to his wife despite her weight. A fascinating, layered character.

[@enigma7310]

*Johny Sack is that friend that thinks he's the leader of the friend group but he's not even close so you humor him...😂*

[@ACE46ST]

This video was beautiful. Rubenesque

[@darkgreenrifleman4871]

Pure Kino = Pure Atmospheric

[@greenbeech3055]

The New York guys were based on real people - Johnny Sack on Neil Dellacroce, Phil Leotardo on John Gotti, Butchie on Sammy the Bull Gravano, and Doc Santoro was Big Paul Castellano.

[@Nkipker]

As a former team leader, you never know whats going to happen. I had to deal with drama from both sides management and subordinates.

[@ymd2516]

Johnny Sack was a great character but his biggest flaw was acting like Phil Leotardo when Phil drank wine on an empty fucking stomach

[@JC051210]

Say what you want about John, but nobody messed with him or pushed him around. Whether he made the right or wrong decisions, he made them with conviction which was Tony’s biggest fault as a boss.

[@rolondorivas6562]

“What’s This? The F'*** U.N. Now Everybody’s got a GOTDAMN OPINION!”

[@Stayinoutoftrouble]

Johnny Sack was my favorite character on that show.

[@vtorious9102]

"Johnny Sanctamonious"

[@Thomas.Bolleiro]

I still cannot get over the fact that Carmine Jr. would be even allowed to have any title, considering that he was not a made guy, just the boss's son, which means absolutely nothing in Costa Nostra. He was, indeed, a powerful associate, yet he would never be in a position to order or take any hits on other made members. Sopranos definitely dismissed that fact.

[@IllIIllllIlIlIll]

The classiest smoker I've ever seen.

[@koseisan]

The difference between Silvio and Johnny was that Silvio KNEW he was better at being number two.

[@jumpinjehoshaphat1951]

We need another Mob series.

[@TC8787-yq7og]

Some people are made to be number twos, basically the NY version of Sil

[@sugartbube]

Johnny liked being called a hothead by his brother

[@davemac9563]

Johnny Sack was tough and he earned respect for the most part, but he fucked up in so many instances because he couldn’t control his anger

[@ainsleyelliott809]

“What is this the U,N. Now!!??”

[@Dabshanks]

If you could do a review on rome a short but great old series that would be super gabagool of you

[@PureKino]

Yes I will be doing a video on Rome eventually!

[@enak413]

Ralph Ciffaretto went to the Bing all coked up and fought Georgie to retake it. - there ya go, that's a review on Rome ( Ps. they didn't have flat tops there )

[@fbistatmajor5918]

My favorite character on the show. I rooted for new York over new jersey by the end

[@Dee-GBE]

John was one of my favorite characters. I found Phil to be a worse boss than him. John seemed more like how a person would react in his situation. Phil was a hypocrite he always talked about codes and rules but he was the first to always break them. Two great actors portrayed these characters through no doubt about that!

[@akirathedog777]

Say what you want about Ginny Sack, but she truly had the makings of a varsity athlete.

[@chrishagins3309]

6:11 Jenny Sack?

[@cesareangeli6653]

Very good video, but it always makes me laugh how english speakers pronounce Carmine lol

[@blaine8197]

Insult thine spouse for 200 coppers? ‘‘Twas next? Fornication for a million silvers?!

[@shawnmilstead4917]

I think he was a fantastic boss! I liked agen he said Speak!!! When he answered the phone 📱

[@anironiccoolness]

1:07 not entirely true, Junior mentions him by name when he and Livia are schemining against Tony in the 1st season.

[@anironiccoolness]

Actually now that I remember, Carmella uses his name after that very first appearance.

[@danwallach8826]

I blame Ralph Cifaretto. He was the cause of it all.

[@hippiecheezburger5457]

I think John Sacrimoni is the most professional mobster on the show, was always righteous guy and dies in the most harrowing of ways from cancer in prison. John is basically the guy that Tony should be as a man but isn’t.

[@bobby.m136]

I think you're way off with them not loving their wives save for a handful maybe, they treat them like shit sure, but they definitely love them

[@stevezac_cptlpnshmnt]

Shout out to Uncle Mike! Don't know who you are, but I too have an Uncle Mike :D

[@RichTheMusician]

Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9

[@the_shah_of_iran]

He was a saint, please... who do you think keeping Ginny in butter brickle?

[@brandondrake14]

During the last few months of his life, Johnny Sac learned the fine art of grilling cheese on a radiator while smoking cigarettes and hoarding Kleenex for late night Ginny fantasies.

[@seanm676]

500 pound elephant in da room

[@kenm.2793]

the original wife guy

[@stephenchakos7747]

Sack was my favorite!

[@clarklarewjones]

He wanted Ginny to gain more weight, he compromised

[@MackofejFTW]

He really should've left that Ginny thing go....

[@specialagentorange4329]

WHEN THEY GO?!

[@calvinsuu1949]

The NY crew made the NJ crew kill two of its members, the animal and Ralph

[@AllanElMelon1043]

As Silvio says, some people are better at being number 2s.

[@9KOMMIT9]

My estimation of John Sacrimoni as a man just fuckin’ skyrocketed

[@jakealter5504]

Same

[@richardtaylor1652]

His pumpkin turned into a carriage. Heheheh

[@jeffreydillingham7630]

I have to agree with Phil on this.

[@harvillex4284]

​@@jeffreydillingham7630 🐓 🍭 should fu 🤴🏿 ☠️

[@justherald1117]

​@@jeffreydillingham7630Oh, you do, do ya?!

[@Irishboy3434]

He loves Ginny. She’s beautiful. Rubenesque, he would say

[@septclues]

*Ginny

[@SaunKrystian]

Come on, …like you never made a joke about Ginny Sac 🤌🏽

[@Dabshanks]

I like a woman you can grab on to

[@bojakai2102]

That mole, whatever happened there.

[@Werdxp]

BBW as I would say

[@Alex-800sxr]

John Sac was a great character, was definitely sad to see him go.

[@DrJ-hx7wv]

It's sad when they go young like that.

[@JTD2001]

Johnny Sack in his coffin *muffled* “SEE ME GO?”

[@Joe1887]

He was a SAINT!

[@bakkels]

Loved the guy. He was just very pragmatic and levelheaded. Although he got a bit too full of himself when he was the top man. But that calm pragmatism is also what draws me to Silvio. (Or Tom Hagen for that matter on the Godfather)

[@jayyy1677]

@@bakkelsunless you speak ill on his wife,such a respectable individual

[@darj617]

I always liked how Livia described him in season 1: that sneak from New York with his shoe lifts and mole hair suits .

[@VanirTraditionalist]

Did she say mohair or mole hair? I hope it was the latter, that’s perfect.

[@tonythetiger1600]

She was the slickest gangster on the show a cold bitch 2

[@KaelWrit]

she was purposefully trying to get Junior paranoid

[@smileyent.3055]

@@KaelWritwell she wasn’t wrong

[@SpicyTexan64]

Mohair

[@RUdigitized]

Johnny Sac: I thought you were gonna back off the sweets! Ginny: I did... Then I put it in drive...

[@Mostopinionatedmanofalltime]

😅😅😅😅

[@StylzGTNT]

He would have been a great addition to the U.N.

[@tarikukrob3222]

WHAT IS THIS THE FUCKING UN NOW?

[@davidoneill7554]

@@tarikukrob3222WHATS NEXT, HE GETS’TA FUCK HER FOR A MILLION?

[@Soprano_661]

Everybody’s got a god damned opinion???

[@Got2DeadLift]

@@tarikukrob3222lmaoooooo!!!!!

[@higginswalsan]

Did they ever mention the Triumvirate in that whole discussion? I know it wouldn’t have convinced Johnny but it seems like a weird analogy for guys who pretend to be Roman to miss

[@jackzaccardi1896]

Ralphie refers to Johnny Sack as “Sir Walter Raleigh” . Raleigh was big in the tobacco industry which hooks on to Johnny’s smoking issue. Brilliant writing ,

[@emperortgp2424]

Bravo Vince

[@wonderfulfebruary]

very allegorical

[@caylinjohnson6453]

Guys from NC be like thanks elementary schools that Raleigh info finally proved useful

[@Jimmy1982Playlists]

Great question! Amazing performance by Vincent Curatola... your analysis is spot on. He's very competent, cunning and - yes - pragmatic as a gangster, except for when his emotions get the best of him. But he's not nearly as level-headed once he becomes boss. Tho, as quoted, nobody can understand the pressures of that "thankless" job. He's one of the most decent men among the gangsters in the show - tho even his friend, Tony, quite rightly pegs him as a slippery, cagey 🤬... he plays Paulie like a fiddle. His worst moment in the show, by far, imo, is the way he nearly beats to death the low-ranking underling in Ralphie's crew outside a NY bar, upon the suspected slight over Ginni's weight. Ths fact that the most decent men among these guys is capable of that is indicative of how grim and nihilistic the world of this series is.

[@kiadimundi3610]

fuckin walt Whitman this guy

[@joesimon2018]

I always felt he was a loose cannon with all that Jenny drama and overly supporting Phil

[@CaravanCzar]

I don't mean to blow your mind, but the world of the series is pretty damn close to the real world. Things like this still happen all over the country, albeit on a much smaller and less cinematic scale.

[@theramplocal]

Benny Fazio did not deserve the beat down, but they are all psychopaths. So def believable that a high level guy like Johnny sack wld take his rage out on some kid in Tony's crew

[@Pissgremlin5964]

I'd go as far to say that he was very allegorical.

[@one0hwon514]

The fundamental question is, will John be an effective boss like my dad was? And he will be, even more so. But until he is, it’ll be hard to verify that i think he’ll be more effective.

[@theramplocal]

Historically, Historical changes have happened from war

[@theramplocal]

Brainless the 2nd, criminal mastermind

[@Mostopinionatedmanofalltime]

😅😅😅😅😅😅OMG little Carmine was so stupid!

[@flightofthebumblebee9529]

You realize that ass hole is giving away WASHING MACHINES?

[@flightofthebumblebee9529]

​@@Mostopinionatedmanofalltimehe was low key the smartest man in the series. The man smart enough to turn DOWN the title, twice. Lived happily ever after with his sexy wife and mansion and kids.

[@Dubvee_33]

Little Carmine is usually painted as some idiot, but I think he is probably the smartest person in the show. He is one of, if not the only person to admit when he has been beat and to back off. He seems to understand more of what is truly at stake and that there is room for everyone at the table.

[@seththomas9105]

I've said it before. LC was the smartest in the room. Beautiful wife and great kids that love him, a big house and all the toys, cash... Had plenty of Black/Grey market incomes and plenty of legit businesses to launder money and provide more cash flow. He was off the Feds radar down in FLA and kept his hands reletivally clean. He knew he didn't want his dads life and wanted to die a old man OUTSIDE of prison. As long as he keeps his health he has it made.

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

LC played the game the best. Cash, off the radar, and no one saw him as a threat.

[@mrrodriguezHLP]

Little Carmine admitted he didn't want it in the end. He has the best chance at dying old, rich, loved by his family, and free. His sources of income appear almost completely legitimate. He has his own thing in Miami, when the overarching narrative of the Sopranos is the death of the Italian American Mafia. No subtlety either, Chinatown is literally eating up Little Italy.

[@orangewarm1]

he got beat because he was indecisive. he backed-off becuase he was scared. he was not ambitious.

[@orangewarm1]

'that thing with Billy' he was not smart.

[@craighembree3101]

Rusty and Angelo were the problem, trying to take over by proxy, installing their puppet, Brainless the Second, over the rightful next boss, John Sacrimoni. If John had come in unchallenged, he might have had a good run.

[@tanveerhasan2382]

_Very allegorical_

[@sickofguysnamedtodd2293]

@@tanveerhasan2382sacred and propane.

[@bermanmo6237]

All being manipulated by Little Carmine, whi did not the idea of Johnny Sacks taking over as the new boss.

[@strollic5162]

The rightful boss? According to who? He could've brokered a peace or handled it similarly to how Tony handled Uncle Jr., but instead, he started whacking everybody. Yet you say Rusty and Angelo were the problem? Some people are weird.

[@jerrypierre7825]

At least Johnny died peacefully surrounded by his family. You can’t take that away from him. Edit: Ok maybe "peaceful" wasn’t the best word to use. I’d say he died with more dignity being surrounded by his family instead of gunned down in the street or beaten to death

[@miketrujillo3677]

You want a cigfie

[@miketrujillo3677]

@helpisontheway9405 you know he's talking about one of the characters standing right

[@tavisatsma5638]

@helpisontheway9405shinebox compromise

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

​@helpisontheway9405All caps makes you look silly

[@jerrypierre7825]

@helpisontheway9405 Bruh why u freaking out? Yes i’m aware it’s a tv show. I can’t be invested in the character?💀

[@keepgrindingup7661]

Johnny Sack had some of the best chops on that show a tremendous character and Vincent curatola did an amazing job portraying him

[@theramplocal]

Whenever Johnny sack starts yelling all bets are off. Not good lol

[@unclephillymya]

All due to respect to NewYork I don’t think you should be telling my uncle how to run things…..

[@Aurora-bv1ys]

​@@unclephillymyaI gotta talk to Aunt Lenore

[@jpmnky]

That entire story arch about Jenny and Ralph, it made me really like the guy. Literally the only time the show hit me in the feels was the scene in the basement when he catches Jenny with that candy stash.

[@genociderjill]

😂 doing laundry

[@leviathanmg]

That she didn't see herself the way he did... you could see the heartache in his eyes.

[@SharkWithFreakinLaserBeam]

His tragic downfall made for a "better" story, but regardless Johnny was one of the best characters since the beginning. No bs until obviously he became drunk with power and whatnot.

[@CallofFreaky]

Whatever happened there

[@MrSlimSheaD]

He’s a deeply emotional man, loves his daughter.

[@abcdefgh1802]

Even Cinderella didn’t love her daughter

[@SK371]

You mentioned something about Phil being in prison? Was this something explicitly stated in the show? Or was it something subtle that the audience had to piece together?

[@spiralsage]

The audience doesn't even consciously realize Phil's past as a prisoner. It's something our subconscious mind pieces together when we see this man and his demeanor. The way he talks. It must be a former prisoner. Oh yeah and he was mentioning some grilled sandwiches. Only prisoners speak like this

[@Recovery305]

Johnny Sack, much like Sil, was better as an underboss than he was as the main guinea.

[@FelneusLeviathan]

Consigliere*

[@DeathsquadDemongods]

I always thought one of Johnny's best traits is where he started a sentance quietly and then went TO YELLING AT THE END!!!!

[@NO-TRUCKS-GIVEN]

What is this THE FUCKIN U N NOW

[@happycompy]

What's this the FUCKING U.N. NOW???

[@steelyd2]

“The fucking god damned esplanade goddamnit!”

[@NoNameForThisGuy]

He wants to fuck her?

[@jogbon]

"So what, he GETS TO FUCK HER FOR A MILLION?!!"

[@juliansantiago9107]

Say what you will about Tony, but he always wanted to make good business avoiding bloodshed and drama. He spend most of the show trying to make Johnny happy, he was such a baby

[@daviddanielsson3643]

I don't think you can ever be a good enough boss in the cosa nostra. Even an old school, level-headed pragmatist like Carmine Sr. will have people conspiring to take him out. Johnny was one of them. "There's no honour among thieves", as the old saying goes. Johnny Sack was one of the most likeable bosses, though, 'cause he was brilliantly written, well-played by Vince Curatola, some people think he was the best dressed (I've always thought Ralphie dressed better).

[@alexmuenster2102]

>>Johnny Sack was one of the most likeable bosses

[@Phoenix_1991]

I guess it's safe to say that of all the ''bosses'', little Carmine handles it as best he could given the circumstances. Yes he also made some questionable decisions and a lot of the times people saw him as a stupid goof, but you gotta admit, he was the one that got off good in the end and was just with his loving wife and kids.

[@mr.patriotjol]

Ehhh it depends. If we talk about taking a strong stance to make NY stronger then sure. But he also had a ego bigger than Paulie and it caused both them and New Jersey to lose money, captains and soldiers. To me, Johnny was more of a number two guy, good captain that isn’t afraid to take action, but an effective leader to make life easier

[@mevich4230]

It's a shame he's only boss for like 5 minutes. Should've been the final villain instead of Phil

[@blackfox4138]

I do like how a lot of characters can be summed up with one of the seven deadly sins. Tony was Pride, he spent the entire series trying to justify why he was a good person all along, and constantly making excuses for himself and why he's always in the right. Phil was Wrath, as he couldn't let go of how his time served was met with dismissal and a change in how things work. Johnny Sack meanwhile was Greed. Even Little Carmine stated that, while he was a friend, he was also a greedy motherfucker. Johnny craved power, and was always willing to patiently wait and scheme to strike at just the right opportunity to obtain it. But as the series went on, and as his bid to power became more and more prominent, he started becoming reckless as his greed had finally started taking over. The biggest thing I'll praise this series for is character consistency.

[@SK371]

I think Tony was gluttony. Phil was pride.

[@alexmuenster2102]

Who was Sloth? Lust? Envy?

[@blackfox4138]

@@alexmuenster2102 all good questions. I wanna stress that I'm not saying that each character only committed one sin and nothing else. They're all guilty of committing every sin in the book. Hell, if there are sins we don't know about they probably committed them. But from a narrative perspective, you can definitely see that each character was written with a specific sin in mind. For example, Sloth. That would be Chrissie, since he had all this potential to not only have a better life outside of the mob, but even a better life within the mob. However, he constantly gave in to other vices preventing him from realizing his potential. Junior would've been written with Envy in mind, as he was always jealous of his brother's and nephew's success and he would eventually realize he just watched the world pass him by until he had nothing left to remember. As for the Gluttony comment, while Tony definitely ate a lot, smoked lots of cigars, and slept with more women than he should've, his character arc doesn't really embody Gluttony, as that's a sin of excess. Tony's character arc is about him justifying and rationalizing him being capable of redemption. At every turn he'd convince himself that he was inherently a good person, never taking into account his own contradictions.

[@KingKhanate1997]

⁠@@alexmuenster2102Sloth could maybe be Janice. Envy… Junior maybe? Gloria could be a good candidate for Lust as well.

[@Dilley_G45]

​@@SK371Tony and ginny never had the markings of a varsity nutritionist