Pushing Black and White Film

[@danrubin]

Love this one! Though I *am* a bit biased, ha. Seriously, great cinematography, editing, and grading - was a blast putting this together with you chaps!

[@chasecastor]

Dan, any more insight on mysterious integrity in those 3200 frames?

[@danrubin]

None yet, I'm afraid - Bayeux was as mystified as we were...

[@RewDowns]

That dark blue denim shirt is sharp, what brand is that?

[@rdelprin]

@danrubin , what blue button down shirt are you wearing? Looks dope on you man!

[@bellamyhunt2332]

Thanks for featuring the StreetPan, glad you like it.

[@danrubin]

It's ace stuff - can't believe I managed to mess up the metering on my first roll of it but *so* impressed with how well it turned out in spite of me, ha! I've given away a few rolls already, keep running into people who are desperate to shoot it :) Will be shooting a lot more of it now, thanks for putting it out into the world!

[@sumsemarie]

The photo at 3:44 is just so beautiful. The shading and soft look is just on point. Loved this photo session and comparison. Thanks for that!

[@SebsTech1]

These shots are absolutely incredible, especially the night shots. Honestly was speechless for them. Love this channel for showing the power of creativity and film

[@TheKiwiJobes]

Honestly, this is one of the best photo channels on youtube, it just has originality and such an entertaining way of conveying the info across. Keep it up guys!

[@johnnguyen7587]

Amazing video! And Louis is soo cool and great with the cinematography

[@TimPalman]

yessss. Shout out to louis

[@Louis_B]

u guys are lovely ❤️

[@ozbaz99]

Excellent video as always. Sorry to see the weather has changed from the typical English summer into autumn. The videos taken in summer really made me want to visit the uk again. Love those English summers.

[@patpaw]

Damn, makes me wanna shoot more black and white film! Huge inspiration.

[@NegativeFeedback]

Awesome! Thank you, you definitely should go shoot some

[@julieb.m.4619]

The aesthetic in your guys's videos is just so pleasing ahahah, love everything from the cinematography to the editing and design (and of course the topic!), fastly becoming my favorite channel! x

[@wumblecakesv9953]

This may seem like such a minimal thing but I absolutely love the soundtrack on your videos! Very chill and calming and gives them a cohesive feel especially when you guys are out and about.

[@nikeeparekh9941]

photos are always cool but I've never been into photography as a thing until now. it's incredible, the feel these videos give. all the not so beginner aspects which you guys talk about, I don't get bored at all. which I'm sure I would be if I was to be learning about all of this through, say, articles or books. ofcourse, the pictures you guys take look great.

[@michaelsoo1396]

I look forward to your videos every week. Thanks for this channel George.

[@stneve]

been binge watching all of your videos recently, one of the best photography channels on youtube right now holy moly. keep up the ridiculously good content my dudes

[@wadeypadey]

love your stuff guys, beats, great subject, relaxing as anything. I always save these videos for when i want to relax and really unwind from a busy day shooting! love it heaps!

[@joyfulcolouring7372]

Totally agree.

[@420_investment_banker]

Easily my favourite episode. Please do more night-time photography!

[@tatipimont1]

yes!

[@Li0nsmane1]

Looking forward to the next episode with Dan taking it and making it big style!

[@simplyReed]

Really liked how the night shots turned out.

[@roryjacobs6817]

This is great. My next roll of HP5 is going to be shot at 3200...at night. You've given me the confidence to push it. Thanks.

[@Regsfoto]

Great episode, its why I love this channel. I always learn something and Dan was a very cool guest who brought a lot of interesting insight. Hope to see him again sometime. Keep up the good work!

[@breeluv497]

The quality of all your videos is amazing! I enjoy photography and you guys are the best inspiration

[@SarahFrickArt]

gorgeous pictures

[@RatAndRaven]

You guys were shooting in one of my absolute favourite parts of London to shoot in, a place I discovered entirely by accident. Lovely work guys!

[@coleudall14]

I always look forward to these weekly uploads. I'm really loving these.

[@jenohogan9254]

I love the look of the grain on the night shots. I'm definitely going to be trying night photography with film. Thanks for the inspo.

[@ogunsolah.s.carteriii9353]

Great pics and awesome music to accompany. Just getting back into film and will be trying this with Ilford XP2 Super 400. Thanks.

[@christopherchoi6120]

Quickly becoming my favourite youtube channel. I'm new to film and I'm always hungry for more of these great vids. Keep up the good work :)

[@NegativeFeedback]

Awesome! Thank you

[@hw7165]

great episode, love the HP5 portraits on Oxford street

[@awsoong]

dayummm those shots are fantastic. congrats guys!

[@NegativeFeedback]

Thank you!

[@bigjames6666]

this is my favorite KZbin channel now.

[@kevsster8728]

I have literally seen all your videos in two days. Great channel

[@nerocko1]

your videos are so satisfying to watch, the aesthetics omg

[@ByteReview]

Just found the channel and loving it! The colour grade on this video is lush!

[@2SHEA]

Finally a photography channel that doesn't look like an underbudget website

[@TimPalman]

nah but srsly, love the Dan+George combo, sick stuff!

[@Hanna_C]

love this episode

[@MrIddogoldberg]

This video made me really miss London. Love your content!

[@EmilieB]

Your channel has seriously gotten be back into film photography instead of digital! Thank you!

[@olofljunggren1189]

Great as always. I am myself going to push some HP5 in the near future, and seeing this makes it even harder to wait for it!

[@JustRockFilms]

Great episode! Im glad you guys brought up the hp5 grain at 1600. Thought my eyes were deceiving me! Great! Just ordered some JCH!

[@sunsleep8985]

I like it a lot! great work and photographs

[@blhdjphotography8134]

Great job as always.

[@jrusty]

Amazing content! I love your videos and can't wait to see future productions

[@GodDamnAmazing]

exactly what i was searching for the last couple of days. thank you!

[@studiowelland]

Great video guys!

[@maxie9913]

Another amazing video, keep it up

[@NegativeFeedback]

Thank you!

[@ImWaVeCoop]

in love with these videos, keep rollin

[@ShawnBrezny]

Great video. Ilford HP5 is one of my favorite films. It has a lot of latitude in pushing/pulling/development. As far as the unexpected results at 1600 vs 3200 ISO, there are a few variables that need to be considered. In these comparison tests it may help to use the same camera, same photographer, same location/subject, same (or similar) exposure settings, same dev process, etc. With so many variables it's hard to say, and like Dan said at the end, that he didn't know his camera well and thus who knows what exposure settings were actually used. Cheers!

[@danrubin]

The exposure issue on the Leicaflex SL was only on the Street Pan (I realised something was amiss before finishing that roll). So the HP5+ was shot and metered correctly based on the camera's meter (and knowing what works/doesn't - which also saved most of the shots on the mis-metered roll as I never *entirely* trust an in-camera meter, and have been shooting Sunny 16 for nearly a decade anyway). The day after we filmed the episode, I ran a fresh roll through the Leicaflex SL shooting exactly what the meter measured, to test its accuracy, and the resulting exposures were exactly as they should have been (I didn't have time before we filmed the episode, as I'd literally just bought the lens as we started filming). So, with a potential metering issue out of the picture: both rolls were bought at the same time, stored next to each other, removed from the fridge at the same time, shot in the same light and developed/scanned by the same lab. Even the folks at Bayeux said it's probably just down to the inconsistencies of film… :)

[@melihekinci6317]

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[@aaronlancelopez]

Great vid! Can't wait for the next one!

Thank you for all your videos, I learn a lot ! I've started B&W film for a month now, and I love it. I feel like a child because I've so much to learn, compare to digital photography, and it's funny and super exciting 😄 good job !!

[@billpickle2875]

Cool video. Really enjoying this series. 3200 looked so nice.

[@Grrubb]

Watching this one indoors made me feel proper cosy

[@mclovincm]

Great job, really liked this episode!

[@markharris5771]

You two and a guy called Steve O'Nions (Landscape photographer with a fairly new channel) have inspired me to go out and buy a SLR and to shoot some black and white. I've got a Canon EOS 5 off eBay as it's the close to modern day digital, but in time I'm hoping to get more of a classic. However I have heck of a lot to learn, but thank you for your videos and your photos are amazing.

[@playerderrius]

You all are amazing photographers. The photos are ridiculous

[@dangerpowers123]

what a great channel for photogrpahy, keep up the great work

[@withloveelissa]

So great! thank you for inspiring us!

[@chroma.clouds]

Thanks for featuring the jch film. I just bought a roll and I'm excited to shoot it!I was told that if I put a red filter over the lens it would create a unique effect with the sky and the shadows of people. It'll be interesting to see how the shots turn out with the red filter compared to yours without

[@ksubyslowed]

Where did you buy a roll from

[@chroma.clouds]

Crimx from a camera shop a few blocks away from where i live! they're the only store in the us to carry it

[@ksubyslowed]

Ugh... I hate my living grounds , I found it though, I am assuming you live in Oregon ?

[@ljw129]

Love what you do!

[@AdhitiaSofyan]

Hi George, with all those pushing and pulling, did you just follow the light meter reading on the M6 as the camera reads it?

[@NegativeFeedback]

I did! As long as you change the iso on the camera to what you want to push it to it works great

[@AdhitiaSofyan]

Thanks!

[@NewellGuitars]

what if you are using an external light meter due to a non-functional light meter in the camera itself? would you then meter to the box rate or the desired iso?

[@madtonesbr]

Desired ISO, so that you're underexposing (then will make up for it in processing)

[@ClassiKSouL]

Great video

[@sarahgray1088]

The HP5 @ 3200 shots look incredible.

[@JaysonOertel]

I love your content, guys! I'm so glad Matt Day let me know about your channel.

[@gking3551]

These vids are next level!

[@romeoviray9487]

really love this one! would love to see more night street photography :)

[@kpotato6080]

Your videos are always the best!! 😱😍 I love how it was well made. 😊😄

[@NegativeFeedback]

Thank you so much! very kind

[@mefrankchoe]

gr8 films and works

[@jonathanabramovich]

Great job as always! When will you guys do some behind the scenes of your process of developing/scanning your film? Dan was a great addition! Keep it up!

[@danrubin]

Jonathan Abramovich George and I talked about this, I think it would be great for him to do an episode showing how Bayeux works behind the scenes (the lab he uses), maybe comparing it to developing and scanning at home.

[@greatwanna]

I like Dan's works

[@jealousofmypuddin]

God I love your channel. ❤️

[@isabelleseah7711]

please do a photo exhibitions displaying all your b&w film!!! they look SO good.

[@ShootStreetTV]

been watching your channel for awhile and I just noticed now that you're left eye dominant. great video as always. i wish i can shoot as much as you guys do, keep up the great work!

[@FilzSkillz]

HP5 looks amazing even at 3200. Wonder what speed/aperture it was during the night-time shots.

[@CelineNguyenIAM]

Yaaas Dan Rubin

[@danrubin]

👋🏼

[@jakerocks8136]

Hanging on to Dans every word because he is a very experienced photographer NOT because he looks like Guy Pierce. That's just a plus.

[@paulthelast3rd574]

I totally agree that the underexposed at 500 were really cool... I'm going to have to find some JCH and give it a try. And HP5+, what an amazing film eh? There's an article at emulsive.org where they experiment all the way to 25600. Thanks again guys!

[@efk6956]

awesome!

[@nicoleisheretolearn]

Great video! Really interesting and informative.

[@jorgegordillosantos5362]

what´s the name of the first song? fcking awesome!

[@oxaxap]

Awesome work you guys are doing. Maybe you should try another lab or something because that hp5 looks too grainy even for 1600 or 3200. Do you guys know what developer they use in the lab? I've used xtol and tmax Dev for hp5 and never got that much grain.

[@PlatypusxOuroboros]

Very nice contrasy results. Do you think it's the way your lab develops your film that makes the shots lack 'flat grays'? I've seen a lot of black and white stuff come back from developing very grayish and bland.

[@shinbak1987]

The film grains on 3200 is amazing

[@theoldfelix]

soooo if im getting it right if you push 400 iso to 500 iso it gets a little underexposed ? do you develop it as if it's 400 or 500 ? im still new at the technical side of photography n im just trying to understand this so i can use it !

[@MLGmountainjew]

felix mostert pretty sure you tell the lab to push it by one stop? I think lol

[@luizaleman485]

You should do a video talking about your tattoos

[@alanjackson4067]

I realize this was posted 2 years ago but hope you still respond to more recent comments/questions...? I'm curious about the JCH Street Pan you shot at 200 ASA. When developing was it pushed...or was it developed at box speed so that each exposure was essentially overexposed one stop? I love the way it turned out and have just loaded my first roll of this film.

[@joyfulcolouring7372]

The JCH at 500 is very smooth, can you purchase this in the UK ?.

[@averyscottt]

awesome vid as always. thanks :)

[@jiahuanli7457]

Can anyone else feel the "chemistry" between Dan and George? from another video as well.

[@lucab1733]

Do you alter developing after in any way?

[@Maj275]

Maybe, the HP5 on ISO 3200 was developed more gently, than the roll shot at ISO 1600. I heared, the more the film is moved in the developer the grain increases.

[@mongovision5124]

Wonderful video, keep up guys you earned my sub

[@matchat86]

I'm impressed with the results of JCH when shot at 200. Until now I have seen examples of it shot at box speed and it has always looked a bit too dark with little shadow detail. Shot at 200 you have shown some lovely examples and I think that I would now like to shoot some myself. Did you pull process when developing or just develop as normal?

[@Sunlight.23]

Are you editing your photos or do they just come out so awesome. like look at the details in shadows and contrast 😄

[@danrubin]

The shots were essentially straight out of the scanner - minor edits for dust/straightening, and in a few cases some adjustments to account for the grading of the video, but that's it.

[@english_self_taught]

What is the meaning of "push black and white, ?

[@hairgamejesus4027]

could you do a video on studio setup?

[@RosyjskiCzogista]

What about some new digital lenses (like really new, Sigma Art series or something) mounted on an analog SLR?

[@ShauryeChakravarty]

Love the way George and Dan look at each other :') You two should be together.

[@ignitethosebeats]

what kind of gimbal is louie using?

[@bedevere007]

Did you guys shoot JCL 400 the whole time?

[@justinsubadya5556]

Great as always! Was the film developed at a lab? Do you know what developer and times were used on the HP5? Thanks so much!

[@dinkoivojevic7145]

Pretty sure this would be developed in XTOL based on how it looked.

[@justinsubadya5556]

+Dinko Ivojevic thanks!

[@danrubin]

Justin Subadya Don't have the details from the lab but have mentioned this to George for future episodes (all the film was developed at Bayuex in London).

[@justinsubadya5556]

+Dan Rubin thanks for the reply!

[@Andrew_cenci]

Awesome!! When Pushing the hp5, did you have it developed normally?

[@OldCameras]

They'd have to tell the lab they've pushed the film, otherwise it would be too dark.

[@danrubin]

The lab developed each roll according to the number of stops pushed - pushing just means you're treating the film in all ways (metering and developing) as if it were a higher ISO than rated.

[@Andrew_cenci]

Thanks guys!

[@Danica.Jaclyn]

Dan Rubin did you guys shoot each roll at a different iso setting and have it developed at box speed ? Or was each roll shot at the same iso setting and it was developed at that?