Pushing it!? pulling 20k with a bumper pull trailer Ram 3500 CUMMINS

[@rockingkvideos3160]

That’s a great video Sam, a few of us have that package in mind and this helps understand the real experience of the size, load and views from all angles!Thanks for sharing👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸

[@georgeenriquez612]

Nice setup man but you can’t beat that hoss of a 5500 you got😎 That thing is an absolute true workhorse!

[@ericrobison8591]

Yea, man, that 5500 is sweet!

[@aidanabeln828]

Great vid Sam. Love the towing vids. That bumper tow looks pretty Damn good. Keep up the good work🇺🇸👍

[@geraldkoth654]

I do believe that DEF is not an acronym for Diesel Exhaust Fluid. I think it is just the first part of the word Defeat. Defeating common sense daily. Glad you got the Gooch fixed. You always say it is not just the machine it is the dealer too.

[@haraldweltzin5117]

I used to pick up boats with a 3500 Dodge and a boat trailer. When the boat is properly balanced on the trailer, the trailer could be pulled by just about anything with a sufficient weight rating, however, if the trailer is tail heavy, even a 3500 dually can have a problem with a 4000 lb load.

[@phatboizbackyardkustomz9006]

Talking about fuel burn on the SR71 seen something lately on a old SR driver fuel burn on take off 80,000 gallons per hour cruise 7,000 per Hour. The aircraft held about 80,000

[@timbertom4324]

Anything Ram I like especially my Cummins two 5.9 and one 6.7 💪

[@Andy11B]

Sir. I gotta tell ya, seeing what you and your boys do with these trucks is damn refreshing. I’m about tired of seeing clowns buying trucks like this or new six figure pick ups and destroying them for views. Keep it up sir! One day I’ll work hard enough and get me an old Dodge Ram 12 or 24. 🇨🇱

[@johnhalter7287]

I have pulled over that with my Cummins many time with my 24,000 GVW gooseneck, it has no problem.

[@VBELTandSON]

I have hauled more than 24,000lbs machines on my gooseneck. This video is for bumper pull trailer not gooseneck

[@Luke.B2184]

That's a very nice setup

[@hartsfire5706]

arm chair farmers that think they know every thing. i pull a 20k horse trailer with a f250 HD it is rated for it.. granted i do take my time and i am always aware of my surroundings.

[@jdofmemi]

I like seeing you check hubs and tires when you stop. I like carrying an infrared temp gun and shooting them. It will pick up smaller differences in temp than your hand, so you can catch a bearing heating before it's bad enough to feel by hand. You can also catch a tire that's a little low on air, as it will be a few degrees warmer.

[@Rockjock0336]

So I know this is an older video. I've been watching your channel a lot while away from home. I just snagged a 2018 3500 dually and it's awesome to see one doing work like this. I know you don't use this bumper pull a lot in videos at least that I've seen. Mind doing a little walk around / build talk about it? I'd love to upgrade from my PJ(made in Mexico) and I think Diamond C is the ticket. Especially after seeing one of their fleetneck trailers in person that a friend owned. Also watching your videos has got me really thinking about starting a similar business somewhere post military career.

[@diamond_industries]

Great stuff, love the content. A semi will make a great addition to the fleet.

[@mikestrucks]

I’m jealous ! Such a nice setup 😬💪🏻👍🏻

[@tcgeddes6691]

Hey I heard some colt ford!! Great music, great videos, keep it up!

[@nickisaacs132]

You need to double check your tires on that new trailer. They are not super singles (235/75x17.5) 6k rated, yours are (215/75x17.5) or 4800 lbs rated. It gives me heart burn that Diamond C would down grade a 10k axle with those tires.

[@peewee.3138]

LetsDig18 Chris pulls a TLV12 with a 4 way bucket on a 3 axle bumper pull behind an F-2fiddy Powercroak.

[@richardharvey8939]

Great job Sam. Keyboard geniuses probably never tow anything. I have learned a lot from you and plan on buying diamond c in the future. Lamar brand trailers are also very good at a lower price point. They are several step ups over the Texas Pride entry level trailers.

[@JerichoRally]

I had a 14k Lamar trailer and loved it. It was a very nice, well built trailer.

[@richardharvey8939]

I have 14k 24ft lowdeck gooseneck. I love it too. I was looking for new and guy was trading in year old trailer for larger one. He had custom ordered it with features they won’t do anymore. Got it close to half price of new one. I have towed it from Texas to Knoxville and all around this state been great so far. Best trailer I have ever owned.

[@bobbytuckett6143]

@V-BELT and SON Hey Sam, I just bought the exact same trailer but 24ft and max ramps. I have a 2020 3500 just like the charcoal one in the beginning of this video. Truck is a beast and so is the trailer. Only issue I have is towing it empty, it causes my truck to bounce/buck real bad... I think it’s just the extra weight of the max ramps on the back and the light weight of the trailer combined with the length of the truck and trailer, causing a see-saw type motion pivoting at the hitch. If I carry my 800 lb grapple bucket towards the front of the trailer, it’s smooth. So I’m gonna play with different weights either in the front box or close to the hitch, to find the unloaded towing sweet spot. Just curious if your towing the LPX with the 3500 is bouncy too?

[@thomasyerbey337]

Great video Sam 🇺🇲

[@5150cash]

I saw my mail box 😎

[@dylanbutler7804]

enjoy the videos keep up the good work

[@skoleelektro]

Will you do a video about Electric trailer breakes?

[@lyndonhamby7432]

Nice units Sam 👍👍

[@michaelmeyers1827]

Very nice I have a white dodge dually too a 2017

[@sprucegoose1016]

Great video bud 👍

[@timchaffin5663]

Been debating the trailer thing, now leaning bumper pull. 2018 dually High Country 445 hp

[@codyg7936]

Don’t buy a bumper pull for this kinda weight if you plan on going up hilly gravel roads, you get off the pavement with this much dragging behind you and idk what you have 4wd or not unless it’s a loaded dump truck you’re not getting up a steep gravel hill, learned the hard way, I wish I had got a gooseneck dump trailer 16k bumper tow dump loaded down with 5-6tons of gravel behind a 4wd f450 and my driveway is steep, I can make it 75% of the time, buyers remorse even though realistically 95% of the places I got it’s fine

[@timchaffin5663]

@@codyg7936 Thanks, good to know. Makes sense getting weight over drive wheels.

[@codyg7936]

@@timchaffin5663 yeah man, plus you get much more dispersed in the middle of the frame and some on the front axles and a gooseneck setup tows better and brakes better, we used to pull our 18k fifth wheel up our driveway no problem regularly

[@michaelweatherhead9470]

Awesome Sam

[@erikkekkonen2941]

It's amazing how haters will always hate !!! There's no changing them !!! (there probably democrats ) lol lol !!!

[@joeychuo]

are those valcrum hubcaps on the trailer?? more deets!! still wanting pops silver 2 door 2nd gen dually!!

[@chadw3370]

When you going to test a DMax? Really like the informative towing and equipment videos. Keep it up!

[@patrickdavis9796]

I alway did 59 mph and then set the cruise control even though here in Washington state it is 60 mph. That his pretty good for going up that hill with 20k on the back, I had 2012 GMC Denali 1 ton single rear wheel rated at 24k combined and I pulled a 16k fifth wheel toy hauler and never had any problems going over any mountains I was pretty impressed with that it had 394 horsepower and 750 LBS of torque and man that thing could go anywhere. What is the combined rating on that 3500 ram you have there?

[@JerichoRally]

Your comment is very helpful to me. Thank you.

[@firefighter1107]

Great setup my only recommendation is add a water/methanol setup, and if money is there plenty of extra goodies can be added

[@rickbentley59]

A stock truck doesn’t need that

[@firefighter1107]

@@rickbentley59 Need it no, does it help absolutely, my 15 ram 3500 srw has improved fuel mileage and cooler temps , so with a load its a benefit, without a load guess what its a benefit.

[@VBELTandSON]

I plan on leaving this truck for awhile. I have plenty of other rigs to throw money at lol

[@jkgeeper]

I’ve got a 2020 Ram 3500 standard output Cummins Aisin cab & chassis and the transmission is horrendous. I came from a 2020 GMC 3500 with the 10 speed Allison which probably spoiled me. My Ram Aisin slams into gear at times, falls on it’s face in 1-2 & 2-3 shifts, shudders while shifting periodically and the dealer says it’s normal for an HD truck. Definitely a huge disappointment for such high expectations. I should’ve found a nice 2018 before Ram decided to screw up the Cummins with the cp4 pump and obvious transmission issues I guess. The only true bright spot is the awesome exhaust brake!

[@joshlower1]

Get a ford, never worry about anything again.

[@623hgh]

Factory Air Bags?

[@jaysonjones5527]

Question for ya, cat 109 or 113 for light trees with a grape sheer 10% slops, trees into burn pile. Willing to consider other manufacturer, but only other deelers within 150 miles are are case and john deere and jcb.

[@VBELTandSON]

I find a Takeuchi dealer even if it’s a good drive. Mine isn’t super close. But we’ll worth it.

[@codyg7936]

Bought a 20k curt hitch for my 2012 f350 srw a while back, with proper weight distribution/trailer w/good brakes I’m confident I could tow that no problem, and I’ve got the 6.2l gas engine, I’ve towed 16k regularly on the “bumper” hitch no problems, the stock hitch was down rated for 12,500 which was maxed out with my car trailer and a truck on it 🙄 but yet the 5th wheel hitch was rated for 20k? 7,500lb tongue weight? I think not, not on this truck, I think manufactures stick stickers on their for liability reasons, just be smart and drive responsibly....

[@Grggeorge]

Yeah I see these stickers I mean thought of adding steel and drilling a 2nd pin hole for the 16-20,000 pound tongue pull on the 450 gas, I still can’t believe how they rate things why don’t they make things three times the size to make sure it will do a 20 ton pull without failure

[@sblsbl7600]

Bumper pull is a misleading term. As you know you are actually towing with a hitch attached to the frame. Older generation trucks had 3 holes in the bumper in front of the license plate where you could attach trailer balls. It was for very light trailers. A lot of bumpers were bent this way. It wasn't safe.

[@vtx2005retro]

Do you always drive on the pedal? Have you ever taken a run up and down your roads with the on cruise control?

[@IManOPERATOR]

i have with my Ram going up grades pulling this weight. surprisingly enough its done an amazing job evert time knows when to start getting on the fuel and holding that gear

[@AllAccessConstruction]

💯💯💯

[@anakingallacher1097]

Everything being done here is safe. Class A CDL experienced driver / owner op , new power unit, new trailer. All cargo weighs under manufactured limits. The only issue you will get hammered for is the lack of weight fees. Default pickup weight rating with PTI (Perminant Trailer Identification) trailer license plates only cover up to 10K lbs. More than 10K GVW the trailer needs to be registered annually to cover weight, or pay for an adequate CVRA sticker for the 3500 that will cover the combined max GCVWR of both Truck and Trailer. 54K sticker is most common because more than that requires the extra highway vehicle use tax as well.

[@joshuawhitford5036]

So, you pretty much know your shit. I asked the local commercial salesman, who said per the engineering department, that the tow rating for the big trucks (5500) is the same for gooseneck or bumper pull if you upgrade with a proper rated hitch. What are your thoughts on this? I’m currently in a friendly argument with my boss about this. I don’t know if it’s the same for his beloved Fords or not. Just curious about your opinion.

[@davez2989]

Factory hitch receiver will eventually start to bend down with pin weight north of 1,200lbs. ... from my experience at about 30kmiles towing as I recall. Ended up with a super hitch, that adds on to the factory to give you a double shank, no issues at 100k ish Just keep an eye on it, but otherwise stay safe enjoy.

[@VBELTandSON]

Can you send me a link to what you got

[@davez2989]

@@VBELTandSON I don't sell them or anything but I own one. torkliftcentral.com/trailer-hitches/rear-mounted-receiver-hitches/superhitch-outlaw-series

[@VBELTandSON]

Awesome thank you I had been look for a solid hitch. I’ll talk to these guys thanks

[@joshlower1]

He's not running a factory hitch.

[@thomashannahjr1983]

iLuvYu Sam #V-BeltandSon

[@snyderkurtis]

Woaaah man don’t be calling me out lol, but really I think at least I hope majority just don’t wanna see the 12 and little buddy on the side of the road if it pulled the hitch off the truck

[@farmertoby47]

What's the name of the song from the intro? Super catchy.

[@BattleBornCowboy]

I got pulled over the other day by NHP DOT for the same reason. Was hauling some farm equipment from the shop in Reno back to cowboy country and he decided to check my license because of the equipment. Showed him my CDL and MEC . He explained that they are being more prudent with checking because some hotshot was rolling through and had a permit for CDL and was over weight. I can understand the need to check more with hot shot now a thing lol.

[@joshlower1]

Tyrants

[@vcummins]

the title tricked me Into thinking you were gonna pull 20k with grandmas truck.

[@evanrodgers2705]

grandma's is a 2500

[@vcummins]

it was a 2500 but he upgraded the truck to a one ton.

[@groundupexcavation]

@@vcummins just cause you put duals on a truck doesn’t automatically make it a one ton. There’s much more than that to make a truck a one ton.

[@vcummins]

yes you have to upgrade the driveline and other things. I’m calling it a one ton because sam has 3500 badging on the doors. it’s not a complete one ton but close.

[@richardbrowne1679]

Sam: What air bag system do you use?

[@nieldcreek2098]

20k👍

[@Drew6709]

Sam, do you worry about damage to the deflated air bags? I have an '08 3500 (single) with air bags (with on-board pump) and have a minimum of 10 psi. I have heard about damage to deflated air bags. Your opinion? Awesome vids Sam! Drew

[@VBELTandSON]

Ran my 04 for years without ever using the air bags. Finally added on board air and the bags were perfectly fine

[@aaronhelmer24]

What kind of trailer is that? I like the diamond plate past the wood. Who did you order the trailer from?

[@VBELTandSON]

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[@griffinmead934]

Do you know what AFB? Im getting stationed at Travis AFB in may/june

[@therealOlexandrUA]

Greetings from Ukraine

[@ericrobison8591]

I'm looking at getting an equipment trailer for track loaders/mini excavators, that sort of thing. Needing max payload of 11500 - 12000# or so. Truck is a '16 Ram 2500 with Cummins 6.7 with GCWR of just over 17K (like 17.2k I believe). You guys think bumper pull or GN?

[@upon1gsxr600]

I’m literally trying to decide the same right now.

[@ericrobison8591]

@@upon1gsxr600 I'm leaning towards the gooseneck rn, but we'll see. I'm fickle, lol.

[@VBELTandSON]

Little gooseneck would be better for your truck. Get some more weight on front end

[@ericrobison8591]

@@VBELTandSON thanks, man! That's kinda what I'm thinking.

[@randyvanetta5197]

Wondering what your EGT’s were pulling that hill?

[@VBELTandSON]

Stock life. No idea. And not worried lol

[@DCFoley322]

Can the 3500 be upgraded to the 4500 brakes. Im looking at getting a dually in the next year leaning towards the 4500 mostly because of braking but also turning radious.

[@motorman2013]

the main difference between the 3500 and the 4500 is the 3500 has 16inch wheels with a 8 lug bolt pattern and a lighter frame . the 4500 has 19.5 wheels with a 10 lug bolt pattern meaning they can fit bigger brakes the wide track front axle and a stronger frame. you would pretty much have to change axles over to put 4500 brakes on a 3500.

[@stephenbrown571]

Which truck rides better loaded. The 5500 or the 3500.

[@IManOPERATOR]

3500

[@kevinwatt5629]

22ft? Is that just the wood section or does that include the small dove tail?

[@VBELTandSON]

20+2ft dove

[@ThrivingEarthFarm]

I cant for the life of me get a solid answer from the ram dealership as to what the rear receiver is rated to on the truck. One person at the dealer says 16k, one said 18k, one said 20k, and one said 22k. And it seems they cant even look it up. Does anyone know?

[@VBELTandSON]

Idk what year truck. But get an aftermarket One then you will know

[@ThrivingEarthFarm]

@@VBELTandSON 2024. What aftermarket one would you get?

[@VBELTandSON]

@@ThrivingEarthFarm draw tite

[@ThrivingEarthFarm]

@@VBELTandSON Looks like with the draw tite, if you're over 20k you also need to have that Everest Weight Distribution System in addition to their rear receiver.

[@jeffthomas6158]

would the 5500 maintain speed limit with same load and trailer up that hill?

[@IManOPERATOR]

No drops to about the same speed.

[@shanelilman3780]

#V-beltAndSon is it always good run 15w-40 oil in all weather conditions for this?? Whats you opinion... 👀🤔

[@VBELTandSON]

That’s all I’ve ever run

[@davez2989]

what other option is there? all that's ever been in my truck 130k runs good

[@HellcatMedia]

Will you start back pulling with the 2nd gen?

[@VBELTandSON]

Naw

[@peep39]

I know in my gas truck, up a hill with a heavy trailer it does very little to go from say 1/3rd throttle to full throttle, unless it is for the kick down. Does a turbo diesel act the same way, or does more pedal get you more boost?

[@VBELTandSON]

Normally in my 5500 I only go 80% throttle. Anymore it will heat up the egts to much

[@MrFredboy]

Little different with a diesel, but that isn't so much building boost as it is just the fact Cummins have all of their torque super low in the power band being a big bored inline 6 so you'll feel more power in a gear, especially overdriven gears. But EGTs can become an issue on a diesel holding a high gear at high throttle with lower RPM

[@gusthebus2542]

Down shift and red line that cummins all day, low egts and pulls like a horse

[@codyg7936]

Well you know the lagging feeling you’re talking about, more throttle results in a little bit more torque, when you’ve got a diesel due to the nature of design/fuel consumption you’ll be able to feel more lag, you can give it more throttle and feel a little more performance, add a turbo and you can add more throttle and gain even more performance, you get into loading up a 15l semi and you can feel the engine mounts progressively torque as you add throttle and load up the turbo, especially with Cummins engines they’re designed to run lower oil pressure and peak torque is much lower rpms than comparable V block designs, keep in mind lower rpms means lower oil pressure, more blow-by and higher oil temp and the exhaust gas lingers longer heating up the engine coupled with unburnt fuel and you can achieve damaging egts in under a minute with a good size load, especially if it’s trying to regen, every turbo diesel truck should have a pyro gauge IMO for the exhaust manifold not the exhaust gases themselves that way you can see exactly what the engine is seeing, having it inside the manifold won’t tell you much because gases can easily reach 1,600F temporarily and having it on the turbo isn’t accurate since the exhaust has had time to cool a little

[@BGCONTRACTINGLLC]

That trailer has 10k axles?!?!?

[@VBELTandSON]

Yeah

[@kccreations5945]

Man my tundra has Lower Gears (4.30) and the same horsepower as your 3500. Does that mean I can two 20K too?!? Lol JK!

[@JerichoRally]

Hey man... the tundra towed the space shuttle! You can tow anything you want!!!! :D

[@codyg7936]

I’ve seen a 5th wheel setup with a 16k trailer and a tundra, they said they’d never had any problems....I think the transmission would suffer first before any suspension issues especially if you got a bag setup

[@kccreations5945]

@@codyg7936 Yeah it may work but man I would never do it. In the wind that would be like the tail wagging the dog! lol

[@hunterhendricks9074]

I probably know the answer but did you have tow-haul on

[@VBELTandSON]

Dually always in tow mode

[@hunterhendricks9074]

@@VBELTandSON had a feeling

[@VBELTandSON]

Yeah gotta have tow haul on truck shifts way to soon in regular

[@hunterhendricks9074]

I know. You didn’t say anything about it so it was just out of curiosity

[@crdjeep123]

We know you got your class cdl a license. Lol

[@tyrrellroach5872]

I would say ur getting crap because the trailer looks like a 14 k trailer not a 20 k trailer. With the trailers I have looked at when you go over 14 k on the trailer on of two things happen that are very obvious 1 you get a third axle or two the axle goes to a duel tire set up with 4 tires per axle. And if you don’t have one of those two things it appears you are over loaded with what you got going there

[@retard_chaser5109]

Look up súper single wheels🤦‍♂️ then come back to edit or remove your comment

[@davez2989]

looks by counting tires and rims or by the way the tire and rim looks. 2 different classes of tires in a 16 vs 17.5 tire rim packages. even the lug nuts.

[@floridafenceland1137]

How much does it cost to breathe in commifornia??

[@VBELTandSON]

Cheaper here than other states.

[@floridafenceland1137]

@@VBELTandSON the 55mph thing really got me, we’re in Florida so we don’t really have any restrictions

[@VBELTandSON]

Haha yeah Florida is legit af. We need to model after Florida.

[@floridafenceland1137]

@@VBELTandSON yeah we got it made down here!

[@burkelatimer1845]

What gear ratio you tuning in your 3500?

[@VBELTandSON]

I say in the video

[@burkelatimer1845]

@@VBELTandSON I’ll I’ll Watch again, I missed that part. Thanks!

[@logahnsmith2450]

Second