"I push TriX to 3200 to give my photos a crude feeling of realism and to show the brutality of the scenes I documented". Kawaii beta male Magnum war photographer from the '60s. "Yeah, I could shoot a rock concert with PanF if I had to, I guess". Attic Darkroom, probably.
@lindsaymobil223 жыл бұрын
Gotta say I'm amazed by your results here! I've long been curious about Pan F's limits for pushing, and the forums are always like NOOO DON'T PUSH IT YOU'LL CAUSE A RUPTURE IN SPACETIME and show all these doom and gloom results of what happens if you even dare to try a 1 stop push. Meanwhile you've said screw you to spacetime and went for it, and I now need to try Pan F at 400. It looks stunning!
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
To hell with your spacetime. I make slow film go fast.
@cwill404 Жыл бұрын
Haha slow film go vroom
@tonyzhu4033 жыл бұрын
Ilford gives a terribly narrow official dev chart for Pan F. It is interesting to see it pushed to above and beyond.
@lordsenneian3 жыл бұрын
I love that this channel is growing. Happy to see you start to get recognized for the great content you make!
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot man, growth like this doesn't happen without long time viewers like yourself.
@jakoon_the_manic3 жыл бұрын
Dude just to let you know I found your channel a few days ago and it's gold, it's not hipster squarespace bait and that already makes it special. thanks for the videos man even though you are doing a sort of niche please continue doing these kind of niche videos they are very creative!!! cheers mate
@arachnenet22442 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm definitely going to try PanF at 800 for some really contrasty Black Metal album cover type stuff. Great video, both informative and entertaining!
@quasarcreator3 жыл бұрын
Was just wondering the other day when we'd be blessed with another upload and, here we are. Wild to see the results of pushing Pan F so far, you're a maniac. Keep it coming :)
@stephensmith15093 жыл бұрын
You've very much sold me on Pan-f at 100 or 200, those shots looked dope
@rubendebaecke45153 жыл бұрын
this has quickly become my favourite channel! keep going bro!
@deeranfoxworthy60693 жыл бұрын
I have a bulk roll of this stuff that's well and truly expired, but it's developed fine at box speed and pulling it to 25. I've been curious about pushing it to 3200. Thanks for doing a test! I actually really like the 1600 results you got. And thanks for posting the dev times!
@sallua29013 жыл бұрын
How can I support your mad science experiments? Love this Chanel and all the questions you have pioneered answers for
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
Just keep enjoying the videos, that's all I can ask for. Thanks!
@fionngijsemans44753 жыл бұрын
I will forever love you for just sacrificing your own time and film in the persuit of knowledge and tonezz
@zouteharing0073 жыл бұрын
You give some film stocks an extra push. I love that!
@itsr1p3 жыл бұрын
Interesting experiment you got going on here, crazy film man.
@franzjosefstakes2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see this guy is doing what my intrusive thoughts always tell me - so I don't have to.
@aristoioannidis74903 жыл бұрын
A channel that is borderline insane. I love it! New Sub.
@ahoyhere81133 жыл бұрын
i unironically love the garage shots! graphic art
@ThMehringer3 жыл бұрын
You changed my attitude towards extrem pushing! I‘ll try it. Maybe „pre-flashing“ of the film would help 🤷🏻♂️ Keep it in, your doing a great job 🤌🏽
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
I've been meaning to try pre-flashing, but I've never tried it before and I hate change. One day.
@kchalmers53893 жыл бұрын
I just randomly went on your channel thinking, hey, maybe he uploaded a new video that I missed and here I am, 6 minutes after the video was posted 🤭
@pieterzegers77883 жыл бұрын
Your channel is the best, thanks for these mad videos!
@jessebeecherphoto3 жыл бұрын
just recently binge watched almost every video on your channel, was very hyped to see another pop up in my feed :)
@Hesmond3 жыл бұрын
I love drinking fixer with a bit of beef jerky.
@fireballninja013 жыл бұрын
just discovered you and i’m so glad i did, i already feel like i’ve learned a lot!
@barqbros3 жыл бұрын
the madman-menace posts again
@MichaelXX22 жыл бұрын
Pan F is my favorite landscape film. For mountains, bodies of water, and rocks, it has a deep, chocolatey rich contrast that I don't see as much in other films. It breaks my heart that it's not available in 4x5. FP4 is the only one that comes close.
@inkysnail3 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always
@tobiasx83123 жыл бұрын
Next video I pull pan f 6 stops. Keep up the good work, always great to watch.
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
10 hour exposures sounds like a load of fun.
@paprycjusz73 жыл бұрын
@@atticdarkroom Don't forget to do it on 35mm so you have more samples to prove your point. And just imagine how much time would you save on development times.
@VictorBezrukov Жыл бұрын
it's a very interesting experiment and I love the results you got even with 1600. Thank you for posting here your developing info. Not much information about this film and pushing even on the Massive Chart site there is nothing more than 100 only for the Xtol.
@cesaralpuche74223 жыл бұрын
Please keep these coming lmaoo
@janMelantu3 жыл бұрын
The mad lad with a darkroom did it. Nothing can stop them
@studiosnchАй бұрын
search entries: > terminal velocity of a squirrel > deep fried twinkies > how to feel human emotions > that song that goes do do do… > can dolphins read minds? > drinking fixer > beef jerky > what is that weird smell?
@paprycjusz73 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, I see you like challenges and I have a challenge for you. Try pushing CMS 20 to anything above ISO 20
@aestheral3 жыл бұрын
very good and interesting content, even I don't touch the chemical part, it's very cool to see these processes and results
@pps67 Жыл бұрын
If you want to tame Pan F contrast try Rodinal 1:100 semi-stand development with 30 seconds agitation at the start, 3 inversions at 30 minute mark and 3 inversions at the end of the hour... or go 1:200 for 2 hours with 30 sec at the start, 3 inversions every 1/2 hour. I have never pushed Pan F, and shoot at an ei of 32 ASA and use it frequently for portraits where I want a slow enough shutter speed wide open to sync with my fill flash. Of course with my Mamiya I only need to slow it down to 1/500 to sync with the leaf shutter. I just wish Pan F were available in sheet film formats
@duncanpugh32153 жыл бұрын
I love these videos mate, keep have you thought of doing any more colour film stuff? (not necessarily turning B/W film into colour tho lol)
@jkmoore11203 жыл бұрын
The old Ansel Adams rule is to meter/shoot for shadows and develop for highlights. It looks like you did something like average metering and then exposing. So the shadows are multiple stops underexposed and just go to pure black.
@erikmathy42112 жыл бұрын
This is super intersecting. I've pushed Pan F to 800 via Gavin Lyons video. His development was like yours: DDX 1:4, 68f/20c, but for 18:00 vs your 20:00. They came out pretty well. What was your agitation cadence, if I could ask? Like a doofus I grabbed a roll last weekend, midshoot, and it was Pan F instead of HP5. Exposure? 1600asa. At least there is one person, you, who has tried that so I've got a little bit of hope to pull it off!
@atticdarkroom2 жыл бұрын
I did inversions for the first 30 seconds and then 4 inversions at the top of every minute. If I were to try this again I would probably stand develop it. It might do a better job.
@possessedllama3 жыл бұрын
Re not being able to see with the ND filter on: I recently bought a "rapid nd filter mount bracket" from Ulanzi (it seems to be available from many different manufacturers though) which acts like flip up sunglasses for your camera. I have the issue that sometimes 400 ISO film doesn't let me get the backgrounds I want so I use an ND filter, but then I can't see clearly enough to focus with the split prism. This seemed to be the perfect solution: focus, flip the filter down, take the shot.
@jakewestbrook32143 жыл бұрын
from the few pan f rolls I've shot, I'd say it's really not that much different from delta 100. also... you'd probably have a blast with rollei rpx 25...
@spyratekodaks74943 жыл бұрын
Pan f is quite nice at 100!! I think I might start shooting more B&W!! Also what 6x6 camera did you use for these shots?
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
I shot these with a Hasselblad 500C/M
@martinnitram44553 ай бұрын
Which camera did you use? Thx!
@oceangrunge71392 жыл бұрын
so what is the terminal velocity of a squirrel?
@gusatvoschiavon3 жыл бұрын
The 400 would be nice in a movie
@ChannelRejss3 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, what do you scan with?
@cathattan3 жыл бұрын
3:42 this should be a fine art print
@joeltunnah3 жыл бұрын
I was going to suggest stand development. With Rodinal 1+100, for an hour with no agitation, you can get nice results at ISO 400 easy.
@_MattyG_11 ай бұрын
Are you still developing at box speed or adjusting?
@lilkngstr3 жыл бұрын
How about doing what you do with those cheap Amazon color filter sets i.e. octo-chrome with violet and fuchsia channels?
@SamCyanide2 жыл бұрын
Panf looks so good at box too
@martinnitram44553 ай бұрын
Which camera did he use? Thank you! :-)
@iNerdier3 жыл бұрын
I would be interested to see, though I think I know what would happen, if you developed some pushed Pan F in something like adox's developer for CMSII. Meant to turn line films into something traditionally usable, it might just pull a tad more mid-tones out of this at higher speeds.
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
I think I have a bottle of Adotech somewhere. That might be worth trying out. Thanks for the suggestion!
@fandyus41253 жыл бұрын
You should do a video where you stand develop ADOX CMS 20 II to see if you can make it less contrasty.
@Jaledx3 жыл бұрын
awesome
@alexcavalco28153 жыл бұрын
You should try a speed increasing developer--something like Ilford Microphen. It's designed for pushing films
@MrRom92DAW3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never shot Pan F - and I think I’d like to! I honestly prefer slower films (I consider 100 to be “fast”) but Pan F supposedly has pretty poor image latency and knowing the rate I go through film, where I may leave a roll in the camera for months at a time if life is *that* uneventful… (most of the last 2 years, fwiw) I think it would go pretty poorly for me. Maybe sometime there’ll be an appropriately sunny event where I know I can blow through a roll in a day and I’ll finally get to try this out.
@benasmik11983 жыл бұрын
have you ever tried expired russian film svema??
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
No, but I do have a roll laying around somewhere.
@LearnFilmPhotography3 жыл бұрын
What would happen if you developed B&W film in color chems with a bleach bypass? Would you get results?
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
That's something I've been meaning to try. I'm actually doing a run of bleach bypass in a week or so, and I'll definitely be trying it out.
@iNerdier Жыл бұрын
Blank roll.
@LearnFilmPhotography Жыл бұрын
@@iNerdier if there's bleach, for sure. But without bleach (as in bleach bypass) you should get b&w negs.
@SuperIrish3 жыл бұрын
Nice to know I can get a cheaper Kodak Tri-X alternative in the UK since it's shot up in price. It might become my new default! Tri-X 400, 35mm: £9 (?!) Tri-X 400, 120: £9.50 (!!) PanF @200 or 400, 35mm: £6 (The old Tri-X price, like, 6 years ago) PanF " ", 120: £5 (The old HP5 price in shops 6 years ago) Now, everyone *shhh*, or Big Ilford will catch on.
@BarbasMinecraft3 жыл бұрын
What developer did you use?
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
Ilford DD-X. I used Rodinal for the stand development. If you're interested in the details it's in the video description.
@BarbasMinecraft3 жыл бұрын
@@atticdarkroom Thank you!!
@gusatvoschiavon2 жыл бұрын
can you do the 3200 again but using with a flash
@atticdarkroom2 жыл бұрын
Thats a good idea. If I ever get around to it again I'll definitely try flash.
@spieler440 Жыл бұрын
I used shoot street photography with kodachrome 64, and now i use velvia 50. How are your shutter speeds so low at iso 50? lol
@peinmilan3 жыл бұрын
There are two films I can live with forever, the Pan F and the HP5. Pan F for fine work and HP5 general purpose any speed. I would never need anything else.
@BHuij19923 жыл бұрын
I almost never shoot anything in B&W besides FP4+ and HP5+, but have loved the results from PanF+ when I have shot it.
@MichaelLloyd3 жыл бұрын
I love Pan F at 50 :)
@SD_Alias3 жыл бұрын
already at 400 iso the shadows in the negatives look much too open. I would have stopped the experiment here at the latest.
@ivan90663 жыл бұрын
Idk bout you, but up to 800 still looks great to me. High contrast makes everything doomy, gloomy, moody.
@BriManeely3 жыл бұрын
Oh shit.. guess I gotta shoot pan f now 🙄
@AustenGoldsmithPhotography3 жыл бұрын
I stuck a knife in my hand to see if it would bleed , it did
@pedrofilipeqo2 жыл бұрын
oh yeah! here we have a proper review. showing the film at box speed is a useless review. well done is showing the limits and exposing the whole "truth" about what we are studying/testing.
@senbilverglate96383 жыл бұрын
Shit o actually really like how this stock looks, ill have to shoot it
@Al_Bx3 жыл бұрын
Oh and our man here uses Rachel K. Collier's music! Could you be any cooler!!?
@BobOgden13 жыл бұрын
Well now you know what you can do if you are caught short without some ortho 😏
@oackgourmandi60613 жыл бұрын
imagine pulling to is 0.006
@风小小-n2p Жыл бұрын
I thought the topic was clickbait...
@deadleads2 ай бұрын
PULL DELTA.
@emulsion_2 жыл бұрын
Pan f is my favorite filmstock. You lovingly butchered it. I feel conflicting feelings.
@randallstewart1753 жыл бұрын
I was going to watch this to see if it was serious or just a poor joke. Then, I decided my time is more valuable than to be wasted like this.