Putin’s position weakened by Zelensky’s victory plan

“The key from the Ukrainian point of view is not to let Russia just come back strengthened.”
President Zelensky’s "victory plan" speech at the UN summit in New York will “keep the faith” amongst Western leaders, says journalist and historian Mark Urban.
Join this channel to get access to perks -
/ @listentotimesradio
📻 Listen to Times Radio - www.thetimes.c...
🗞 Subscribe to The Times www.thetimes.c...
📲 Get the free Times Radio app www.thetimes.c...

[@Mr-Science-Stevens]

America and Uk pledged to keep Ukraine safe in the Budapest Memorandum

[@robbiekop7]

They'll certainly be getting the rebuilding contracts when it's time to do so

[@boink800]

Both countries have honored their signature on the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, unlike Russia.

[@micaiahm1]

Misinformation. That was specific to nuclear attack.

[@boink800]

@@micaiahm1 By signing the Budapest Memorandum (5 Dec 1994) Russia agreed to the following: 1. Respect the signatory's independence and sovereignty in the existing borders. 2. Refrain from the threat or the use of force against the signatory. 3. Refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by the signatory of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind. 4. Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to the signatory if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used". 5. Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against the signatory. 6. Consult with one another if questions arise regarding those commitments.

[@boink800]

@@micaiahm1 “No one believes a liar. Even when he's/she's telling the truth.” ― Sara Shepard, Heartless

[@alberthead4806]

putin was happy when ukraine had a poppet government, but when the president was voted out for a democratic ukraine putin didn't like it so attacked them

[@Vickzq]

The same _democratic president_ that cancelled the voting because _meh, Ukraine needs me now?_

[@DK-yz9xk]

Vote? 😂

[@rockbutcher]

@@Vickzq Misinformation. He didn't cancel the voting. The Ukrainian Constitution forbids elections during time of war.

[@rolandnelson6722]

They got guarantees with their nuclear disarmament.

[@Espiritu-o7x]

Except a guarantee protector was Russia itself as well.

[@boink800]

@@Espiritu-o7x Which Russia violated this Memorandum.

[@jean-marcbergevin366]

Congres is not the issue, the majority is for support. With Trump out, aid will continue.

[@bryandimery6509]

No it wont. The grift is over and theyve milked the idiots. Now they will milk you for israel

[@johncarroll7585]

Wasn't the Budapest memorandum supposed to be a 'security guarantee' from the West?

[@eden255]

I think why dogs do funny dances and understanding how Trump thinks have a lot in common. Both are motivated by bribery.

[@Micklemoose]

Valuable lesson here, never give up your nukes. If Ukraine had refused to give up its nukes, this would not be happening.

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

That's why North Korea, Iran and China have them, to protect themselves from America.

[@jefbezoss7638]

Ur a muppet

[@alberthead4806]

never trust anyone, the USA, BRITAIN and RUSSIA signed an agreement to protect ukraine if ever the were attacked in 1991 been let down by all 3

[@dalecrocker3213]

They weren't their nukes. They were the Soviet Union's

[@kevinryder1512]

Moscow had the nuclear codes…they’d never have been able to launch them anyways. So it was essentially a massive pile of unusable silos that would’ve cost billions to maintain. This argument I hear propagated so much is void

[@steve-real]

Large parts of the Republican party has grown insular. Largely based in the old Confederacy.

[@dalecrocker3213]

The Confederacy was Democrat.

[@micaiahm1]

@@steve-real history fail. republicans were the anti confederacy party in the civil war

[@cosmicdragonian]

Only Times Radio can turn a loss into a Victory plan .........its getting silly now.

[@boink800]

Please tell us about that three day victory which Russia 1 tv promised millions of Russians. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha

[@YUDNSAY]

@@boink800 EYup Boinki...what time can you play out 'til?

[@DK-yz9xk]

@@boink800lmao when did Russia ever said that? That was an American general you know 😂

[@Interglacial_optimist]

Western security guarantees are as valuable as the paper they are printed on.

[@boink800]

Are we still trying to make people angry today? Did it work last Friday? No? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha

[@superhumantrueman]

Silly statement when the West has been helping Ukraine make fools of russia for 2 years.

[@Interglacial_optimist]

@@boink800 Do you think the truth makes people angry or sad?

[@garyyencich4511]

If not for the help of the West, Ukraine would be gone already. It’s the Russian security guarantees that aren’t worth anything.

[@boink800]

@@Interglacial_optimist Did we ask our friend "Dale" about that?

[@johncromwell2529]

Thx great work

[@elaineburnett5230]

Victory plan get Russia out of Ukraine.

[@JohnTCowie]

😂

[@cjhards]

😂

[@BoustineSoosai]

STrump always trumpetting as if he is a great problem solver.

[@haroldcall2441]

Trumo Is a problem solver. He proved that, you're just too dumb to see it.

[@Vickzq]

And all others never do that...

[@kevinbritvec3292]

The United States already gave Ukraine security guarantees when they gave up their nuclear weapons in exchange for them. No new guarantees are needed or warranted.

[@Ondakatt]

The Russian bots really come out in numbers for these types of videos.

[@daisydaisy...4562]

I suppose they might be primed by the gammon bots on camera....

[@JohnTCowie]

No. What the Times are trying to push is so ridiculous and divorced from reality it's tragic

[@YUDNSAY]

'Putin’s position weakened by Zelensky’s victory plan' no. Not at all.

[@geofflewis8599]

..it's not the Stormshadows, its the targeting information provided by US satellites..

[@russellspeed1693]

It is interesting to see TR ramping up the silliness, especially at this time.

[@JoewthMatthews-kp2vl]

Can that plan end Museveni of Uganda too he is killer like Museveni of Uganda yet he is from Rwanda

[@RobertJackson437]

You have been saying the same thing for almost 3 year's 🙃🙃🙃 don't you have any other propaganda?

[@Evan490BC]

What's the word for "propaganda" in ruᛋᛋian, Роберт? You seem to be an expert in that.

[@MartinLundström-l4v]

America influence MUST be reduced. Eliminating De-Escalation. America is Europs greatest treat!

[@slavenaljinovic1162]

What Russia weakened. Defeated😂😂😂😂😂

[@hannah5245]

I hope the plan succeeds !

[@JohnTCowie]

😂

[@MartinHugo]

Ukraine had security guarantees when it gave up its nukes, one signatory has since attacked it and the others did not say what they pledged to do.

[@BoustineSoosai]

Budapest memorandum is the 6:24 clinching factor in favor of Ukraine.

[@FelixWilson-w9g]

Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 ♥️ ❤️

[@petruflorintofoleanu5865]

SLAVA RATS 🐀

[@DacianRider]

@@petruflorintofoleanu5865 those are your parents. we don't care about them.

[@petruflorintofoleanu5865]

@@DacianRider I DON'T CARE ABOUT NEO GENERATION OF ADOLF MARIONETA ZELENSKYY AND HIS DOGS 🐕 GLORY TO RUSSIA 🇷🇺

[@sTraYa249]

​@@petruflorintofoleanu5865 Wow, anyone would think you put putin before humanity 😮

[@petruflorintofoleanu5865]

@@sTraYa249 ASK NATO ABOUT HUMANITY ABOUT WAR CRIMES AND GENOCIDE WITH TAXPAYERS MONEY 💰

[@M0RGENDUGG]

Sad to hear people making excuses for Trumps statements. It is really ignorant 😮

[@daisydaisy...4562]

Imagine if trump wasn't talking complete drivel.... These apologists must be broken heated now that the orange one has lost his marbles

[@Shining237]

Fantasy Propaganda

[@petersmith-yg7me]

Obviously a joke article.

[@stephenpounds8360]

Slava Ukraine

[@user-ts9ko1zf4y]

Zelensky bloody 🤡💊

[@tosspot1305]

Victory plan..... Sure

[@alangaillard2988]

Nay way, Jose.

[@chrism4948]

Vlad, the self-impaler.

[@larrywongthupeng201]

Magical thinking and delusional at best.

[@boink800]

Like that taking Kyiv in three day claim from Russia 1 tv? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha

[@hymns4ever197]

Elements of the GOP had been pushing for this as a condition for continued funding. He is doing it to try to have his bases covered.

[@larrywongthupeng201]

@@boink800 Apparently , you are not aware or in denial mode that this 3 days western narrative was mooted by ex Pentagon chief General Miley soon after the conflict started in Feb 2022. Dont embarrass yourself further than you need too !

[@larrywongthupeng201]

@@boink800 And you are dumb enough to believe that , knowing that this Western narrative was first mooted by ex Pentagon Chief General Miley no less than 48hrs after the conflict stated in Feb 2022.

[@imaginemetoo]

Slava Ukraini 🔱🇺🇦✌🏻🇬🇧

[@imaginemetoo]

HEROYAM SLAVA 🇺🇦🔱💪🏻✌🏻🇬🇧

[@Infopirates]

Charles the twelfth of Sweden, Napoleon and Adolf had victory plans in Russia too 🤓🤓🤓🤓

[@terahndlovu6571]

Its a plane n its already weakened putin??😅 ...you guys are a joke

[@RecycledBikes-jj]

Very, very childish analysis. Is this the best you can do? I'm afraid it might be...

[@loucaribou7765]

Add this one to the highlight reel of trump doubters. There are so many videos of people doubting Trump and then the next cut is Trump actually accomplishing what these fools are doubting him for😂

[@jesan733]

He's not serious. He can't stop the war in a day, and his plan is clearly to force Ukraine to yield, which is both immoral and geopolitically disastrous. If he wants less doubt, he should explain his intent in more detail.

[@stevemarshall4822]

Ah the regular Times 'Putin is finished' video.

[@joelturley4847]

He is 😂

[@boink800]

Why didn't Russia take Kyiv in just three days then? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha

[@garymck5181]

Probably because they didnt actually try to? 🤷‍♂️​@boink800

[@boink800]

@@garymck5181 Russia 1 tv promised all of Russia that Russia could easily take Kyiv in just three days.

[@garymck5181]

@@boink800 🤣 they barely sent enough troops to 'take over' a town the size of Preston ffs. They quite obviously weren't intending to 'take over' Kyiv.

[@R.EGrantham]

Lucky for London, according to SKY News' Major-General Michael Clarke (of MI6 armed and dangerous media wing) Russia has consistently run out of missiles every week since the beginning of the war.

[@joelturley4847]

Here's 50 cents wumao 😂

[@boink800]

Can we prove that, botski? No? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha

[@todd1770]

😅😅😅😅😅😅 and don't forget the shovels 😅😅😅

[@todd1770]

And Putin has cancer for 10 years now 😅😅😅😅😅

[@boink800]

@@todd1770 Provide us a link where Professor Clarke claimed that.

[@ThisHandleWasTheOnly1Available]

"Victory plan" 😂😂😂😂

[@joelturley4847]

ruSSia ❄️ has been a punchline for 3 years 😂

[@todd1770]

😅😅😅😅😅I know right 😅😅😅

[@todd1770]

Zelensky victory plan: give me!! give me!! give me !!!!!😅😅😅😅

[@boink800]

Do we remember the Russia 1 tv "victory plan" ... taking Kyiv in just three days? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha

[@todd1770]

@boink800 it was along 3 days but victory is Russia's.

[@AirB-101]

“(...) victory is about justice. A just victory is one whose outcome satisfies all - those who respect international law, those who live in Ukraine, those who lost their loved ones and relatives. For them the price is high. For them there will never be an excuse for what Putin and his Army have done”. V. Zelenskyy, Sep 22nd 2024 Interview.

[@ГеннадийСеднев-м3щ]

Какая нам разница. Мы забираем своё

[@AirB-101]

​@@ГеннадийСеднев-м3щ Qustion: Tu sais ce qu'est le Droit International? Et mon doigt international, tu le capte?

[@dalecrocker3213]

Zelensky's "victory plan" appears simply to take down everyone with him.

[@meh9356]

😂😂😂

[@GeorgePrice003]

Zelnesky doesn't care if he starts WW3....He's a nut.

[@Darkangel-A-c8z]

I hate him for this 😡😡😡

[@boink800]

@@GeorgePrice003 Blaming Ukraine for World War 3 ... that is today's botski line. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha

[@jefbezoss7638]

👻💩

[@StephenSmall-sf5um]

Zelensky is deluded if he thinks he is going to defeat putin

[@Donchampignon]

Reporting from fairyland where president Putin has been eaten by the tooth fairy and Saint Zelensky has married Snow White

[@marcellogenesi6390]

People see to have forgotten the western media news that said that Putin was so ill that was about to die, back in the spring.

[@garyyencich4511]

Putin will be eaten by someone. Everyone is a strongman right up until they aren’t. Ukraine now controls part of Russia. Putin’s chef made it halfway to Moscow shooting down a Russian helicopter on the way. Not a very good look for Putin. His time is coming.

[@jesan733]

@@marcellogenesi6390 they forgot it because it didn't happen.

[@Jimmy-ye3wg]

Zelenskys Victory plan is somewhat of a running joke, as Ukrainian forces currently fail on almost all fronts including Kursk. In reality its another begging letter before the onset of winter conditions on the majority of the Ukrainian population without electricity or gas heating.

[@eccIefechan]

Sure, Ivan.

[@Espiritu-o7x]

@Jimmy-ye3wg Reality matters. Maybe Putler can not fail to rescue Kursk in 3 days.

[@Clarence_Top_G]

Russ-bot copium Stronk!

[@UK_Sgt_7094]

@@eccIefechan unfortunately he is right, Ivan bot or not :(

[@ГеннадийСеднев-м3щ]

Верно

[@ShadowMoses-lz2ei]

Imagine losing a war on the battlefield and trying to win it in the after the fact negotiations. Thats "Western Stupidom".

[@boink800]

Imagine your most watched tv network claiming that Russia could easily win in just three days. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha

[@ShadowMoses-lz2ei]

@boink800 imagine getting your county destroyed for a NATO membership.

[@ShadowMoses-lz2ei]

@boink800 imagine saying the kursk offensive has slowed down the Russians in the Donbass because they had to redeploy 60K men to Kursk but we see Russian advance in Donbass speed up.

[@jesan733]

@@ShadowMoses-lz2ei imagine rooting for Russia while living in the west. That's the true "Western Stupidom".

[@ShadowMoses-lz2ei]

@boink800 imagine claiming Russia is running out of men just to turn around and cry about being outnumbered and out gunned lol I mean which one is it?

[@worldwide8587]

🤡 radio…..😂

[@boink800]

Do we prefer our cartoons instead?

[@clairebaldwin8733]

Why does the US have to provide their permission for Ukraine to use our (UK) long range weapons? Or was that a miss-speak? Genuine question🤔🙄😐

[@UK_Sgt_7094]

because if Ukraine do this and Russia respond by hitting a NATO country then it starts WWIII due to Article 50

[@ГеннадийСеднев-м3щ]

Военные США программируют ракеты и это означает нападение на Россию. Мы будем стрелять по США

[@nigel8892]

I think its because US have the last word on NATO decisions.

[@elysiumfields]

Because they are in charge of NATO. Can't have members preform rogue actions to get whole of NATO into a war.

[@michaelstamper5604]

Because our missiles (or some of them, at least) include American components, and in the event of Russia collecting debris or wreckage after the missiles have been used, they don't want Russia to be able to discover any military or tech secrets.

[@Interglacial_optimist]

The fact is he is not safe inside ukraine and probably will remain out of the country as much as possible.

[@boink800]

Did your friend "Dale" claim that?

[@DAVIDEMARTELLO]

Slava ukraini 💛🟡🔵💙

[@jspy8138]

The majority in the UK di not back prolonging this conflict. They do not consent to tax money being funnelled into it. They will not be conscripted into serving. The military and pro-war politicians are few.

[@boink800]

What majority? The majority of those BNP members who support Russia?

[@jesan733]

I think you're quite wrong. The support for Ukraine remains strong.

[@boink800]

@@jesan733 He means in his very little BNP world.

[@YUDNSAY]

@@boink800 Your Mum must look down at you, and realise 'I can't fix him...'

[@Interglacial_optimist]

A victory plan on tour like he were a stand up comedian.

[@boink800]

Are we making those "Dale" like comments again?

[@jspy8138]

When was Zel ...sky due to run an election due to his official tenure being up? Is he legit then?

[@APW-ry2ok]

Marshall law comrade. When Russia goes home, then elections will take place.

[@donkmeister]

The Ukrainian election would have been around the time Navalny accidentally ended up dying in totally non-murderous circumstances, and Nadezhdin was barred from standing because of reasons that totally weren't fabricated. Unfortunately someone who had absolutely nothing to do with the above, honest, had declared a SMO on Ukraine so their hands are a bit full. Now, Russia hasn't had an election (that wasn't condemned internationally for corruption and duress) since 1996... Would you say they're due one now?

[@boink800]

Why don't we study the Ukrainian Constitution before making a judgement like that?

[@APW-ry2ok]

@@jspy8138 At least in Ukraine when they have elections the opposition don’t end up either dead or in jail eh….

[@celestinebossoma2991]

Liar

[@stewmaker3983]

'Victory plan', big joke, LOL

[@firstsecond-ft1qg]

Please explain.

[@user-rv8wb1nl1b]

SLAVA UKRAINE

[@Mitch-l5u]

Why?you live in Ukraine?

[@user-rv8wb1nl1b]

@@Mitch-l5u i live in a DEMOCRACY komrade .

[@MoustaphaCamara-bl4uw]

Definitely joke of the century

[@jamyla9812]

I don't wanna die for a comedian.

[@jesan733]

This war has personal roots only on the Russian side. On the Ukrainian side, the people fight for independence and existence.

[@boink800]

Then don't join the Russian army.

[@boink800]

@@jesan733 The USSR is dead ... since 1990

[@jesan733]

@@boink800 tell Putler.

[@GeorgePrice003]

Zelnesky doesn't care if he starts WW3....He's a nut.

[@boink800]

Just how will Ukraine start WW3? Please tell us.

[@lizjones9086]

He has been sniffing to much of the white stuff he has bought with UK US EU & many other countries taxes money...Still giving us a good laugh I see 😂😂😂😂😂

[@CountDuckEgg]

His 'plan' is simply to beg for more money. That's it.

[@boink800]

While Russia goes to North Korea to beg for more weapons. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha

[@kderules]

War is losted. He is essentially admitting it.

[@boink800]

Poor Russia. War is losted. Russia is losted.

[@jesan733]

You're losting it.

[@s0ycapitan]

As I understand it, Zelensky's "victory plan" is essentially WW3.

[@apollointhedark5758]

How he survives after the war considering the usa is full of kgb and Russian mafia. That's his victory plan.

[@boink800]

Is that your Russian internet conspiracy theory for today?

[@jesan733]

Bring it on, Ivan.

[@paulpaisley5291]

😂😂😂😂😂😂. Russia is winning. Russia is winning. ❤❤Russia from the 🇬🇧.

[@superhumantrueman]

Still not moved to russia then "Paul"?

[@paulpaisley5291]

@superhumantrueman have I hurt your feelings. You know its true.

[@nigelmorley5414]

you are stretching the meaning of winning somewhat I think !

[@superhumantrueman]

@@paulpaisley5291 lol, pretending to have offended someone is the weakest response.

[@joelturley4847]

Here's 50 cents wumao 😂

[@MoustaphaCamara-bl4uw]

Funny mad man Zelenky what victory when half of Ukraine is under fire and control by Russia , the Kurks incursion has failed

[@joelturley4847]

Zelensky is the comedian 😅 Putler is the joke 😂

[@boink800]

Funny Russia 1 tv ... how they claimed that Russia could easily win in just three days. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha

[@Espiritu-o7x]

@MoustaphaCamara-bl4uw Half of Ukraine is not under control by Russia professor.

[@DorothyReich]

Lol

[@FollowThePurpleBrickRoad]

Trust in the LORD forever; for in the LORD, the LORD, is an everlasting Rock. ISAIAH 26:4

[@JohnTCowie]

The Desperate Times flailing around grasping at straws. Hilarious if it wasn't so tragic

[@saffaiyubah2078]

Victory on what???😂😂😂while Russia is advancing😂😂😂😂😂

[@bostonbikebits6539]

tell that to the residents of Kursk.

[@DacianRider]

advancing into oblivion. lol

[@robertwoodhouse-bm7kt]

Russia counter attack stalled in Kursk, l,ots of ammo and missiles got boomed, Russia relies on artillery to move forward, the US can easily feed A1M1 Abrams, Bradleys and MWRAPS to keep this war running for 2 more years, by then Russia running out of refurbished old Armour. If Ukraine jet drone actually working they won´t need US permission.

[@Hamish-f4b]

Mania can be treated. Just an fyi.

[@boink800]

Russia is advancing ... backwards in Kursk, Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha