Putting Grasslands to Work - Day 1 - Session 5

savory.global | A Conversation about Soil
- Elaine Ingham
A conversation about the role of science in informing management
- Panel
Closing Words
- Justin Adams
Keynote Address: A conversation about inspiring a new generation of farmers who want to feed the future
- Joel Salatin
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About Savory Institute:
Loss of grasslands leads to climate change, floods, droughts, famine, and worldwide poverty. It’s our mission to promote large-scale restoration of the world’s grasslands through Holistic Management.
Holistic Management is a process of decision-making and planning that gives people the insights and management tools needed to understand nature: resulting in better, more informed decisions that balance key social, environmental, and financial considerations.

[@riceislife4556]

I fell asleep and this is where I woke up

[@stephanieveenstra]

same

[@MrSlasli]

same

[@shaima751]

I had KZbin set to auto-play, Before I fell asleep i was watching something not so relevant to farming and planting, But I'm glad this video cam on during my sleep. I literally got the most educated dream of my life. 50 minutes into the video I had waken up and realized the lecture in the dream was actually this you tube video. I immediately saved this video to watch the rest later. Thanks Eaine Ingham

[@robertharcourt7650]

watching Joel Salatin feels me with joy

[@ahmedsadiq837]

Dr Elaine summaries real soil science in one hour very informative

[@michaelkingsbury4305]

I learned more in 1 hour from her than I did in 4 years studying chemistry at Cal Poly

[@chiledoug]

SALATIN HAS GOT IT THE BEST

[@TS-vr9of]

They really should have let Dr. Elaine speak more, soil life is the key to speed up pasture progression in those first years of Holistic management.

[@TannerisSmol97]

She spoke got long enough

[@TS-vr9of]

@@TannerisSmol97 I guess your right, I assume she goes into much more detail in her online courses, I just wish they weren't so expensive.

[@mumpygumboo8554]

I really love hearing Salatin. Such a great mix of passion and common sense.

[@johnfitbyfaithnet]

Agreed

[@pattieturner9288]

Tremendous infmation..act now ! 😊

[@Jefferdaughter]

Dr. Elain Ingham's presentation begins at 2:20, for those in a hurry. The man giving the introduction made an excellent point- chemical-based farming has worked as well as it has thus far primarily because we were essentially 'mining' the soil nutrients that were already there. This fertility was largely created by the interaction of large herds of hervivores, the plants, and the soil food web she speaks about in more detail.

[@torquewrench1969]

Kinna dry at the start, but has lots of good info on soil chem/biology. Lots more studying to do!

[@panstriato2]

Salatin is such a great comedian.

[@cbdfarmersofamerica2058]

big picture truth and how we blend all the knowledge together. This AGENDA slice has to come to a end, find 0 and go from that

[@kristijantadic8476]

Great

[@andyminniti8563]

This is very informative and mostly over my comprehension ! Only because I’ve seen what grain farming has done to my rock hard fields .

[@lilacDaisy111]

42:20 - Yes! Your soil already has all the minerals the plants need.

[@clarecaldeira8149]

Chad Krueger Washington University. How soil carbon can be measured and predicted . @ 1: 3 ish. remediate climate change

[@wilfredodanielgonzalesguzm7248]

La necesidad de la traducción en spanish, urgente.

[@lilacDaisy111]

56:00 - still no word of HOW. How do we make this certain compost and apply it on 20 acres? I'm sold, but I have NO IDEA how to do this. So ... has this been a waste of time? Seems extremely complicated!!!

[@katiez5660]

Our milk goes sour however I left a piece of bread in a plastic bag. We threw it out after 6 months and was still edible.

[@chiledoug]

O GOD!!! NATURE CONSERVANCY WHAT ARE THE DOING THERE

[@drewblack749]

Poor soil allows valuable rain water to simply wash away. We aim to keep the rain in the soil. Alan Savory has worked for decades to improve soil retention in Africa. His results are remarkable. Water retention follows and as you said, oh, so crucial.

[@C.Hawkshaw]

@@Jj-gi2uv cattle drink a lot of water if they are eating hay in a feed lot, standing on concrete. not so much if they are eating live grasses and forbs in a pasture.

[@chiledoug]

3 SISTERS MECHANIZED POSSIBLE

[@chiledoug]

HAS NOT COST THEM WELL IT WILL

[@Jefferdaughter]

9:00 - Exudate. Is it really that strange a word? We deeply admire Dr. Ingham, but the word did not seem to us the be that unusual, however... When it come to Latin or 'Latinization' of scientific terms, though sometime Greek is also used, the idea was that scientists all over the world would share a 'common language' of science. This is particularly useful for things that cannot be reduced to mathematics, like taxonomy. In the USA, Latin medical terms have largely been abandoned, because terms that were easy enough for prior generations of physicians and nurses to learn have apparently become too difficult to remember, leading to errors. Maybe the students needed more grassfed beef and pastured eggs and other foods grown in healthy, living soils to support their brain development and maintenance.

[@philippkukla2844]

Incredible thrilling talk about soilfoodweb. Puts all those things effectively into context, if you you're able to follow! That's neat!

[@LordLarryWho]

Might be better if she didn't get nitrate and nitrite reversed.

[@SavoryInstitute]

We're all human.

[@Digithaiz]

We really should have listened better - 8 years ago and look at the mess we are in

[@hikerJohn]

In this video Elaine says you can IDENTIFY microbes which we all know to be false and she states that you can predict crop health by that identification. The evidence of the healthy soil is not in identifying microbes, all you have to do is condition the soil so that the life that's in it can blossom. Put a herd of cows on it for a day or three or else put compost on it and God will give the increase. You do not need the microscope except for the fun of looking at microbes if you enjoy that sort of thing and have time for it (let your kids do that). If the soil is healthy you will get worms eating the excess microbes. Manure is your inoculate - a MOB of cattle is where you get it or else you buy it from someone that does not use antibiotics and/or dewormers. It does no good to extract microbes that you cannot identify and put them on sterile soil that cannot feed them. If the soil is not sterile (and no soil is) then just feed them. You feed the microbes and the microbes will feed the plants.

[@maracohen5930]

But you have to have the science to overturn the standard grazing patterns that are creating deserts, and you need to be able to explain these while you teach.

[@davidsawyer1599]

Okay Sir all well and good for a narrow parameter. So your view is that microbes do not exist? Then you state that they do! Just put compost on the land! Not all compostables are equal. One needs the proper combination. No doubt God does provide. He provided humans with the ability to think. To make critical decisions based on evidence. Good and bad. The assumption presented to us is all viewers live in a rural setting. That acquisition of holistically managed manure is all thats needed. That there is a mechanism that can recreate exactly the impact that ruminants provide. Say one would choose these practices in a urban or suburban setting? Last I looked no land managers or owners are allowing manure to leave the property. Why would they? How foolish that action would be. What governing body is going to allow livestock where it is not allowed? It's as though only those that live off the land would have an interest in these methodologies. Granted that most of those that dwell in urban or suburban environments interest in these topics is non existent. A very very few are however very interested in these topics. These folks want to try and implement these practices on their properties. Or properties that they manage. Neighborhood food plots. Many that view these videos want to transition to a rural environment. They are making every effort to learn before that move. There are vast majority of rural land owners/managers that do not subscribe to holistic practices. Frankly they don't care. For roughly three years I have been drilling down on essentially a better vegetable garden. I had no idea that the journey would lead me to this point.

[@waveoflight]

Sad that this turned into a racist and sexist conversation because there's some good information in here. So much for moving forward.

[@drewblack749]

Know what you mean. Soil is by its nature sexist. Not sure about the racist part, though. Soil is indifferent to skin color.

[@C.Hawkshaw]

One way to move forward is to not demand, even in your own head, that everything be perfect before beginning or continuing.

[@pmmac2382]

You lost me at the man bashing by the interviewer. Sooooo tiring!

[@naphackDT]

Didn't see much man bashing there. They probably could have phrased it better and there is a crucial observation they were missing, which I will lay out here to explain the data points they were observing: Young, unmarried men usually take huge risks. If there is something that can establish them, give them a purpose, or just eek out an advantage over competitors, they will do it. But as soon as they have established themselves, especially if they have married, they will now try to make everything as predictable as possible and keep any changes to a minimum. On the contrary, women, when they are young and unmarried, generally tend to be very risk averse concerning long-term changes, but once they are married, they will be the ones to experiment and try out new things. And from the perspective of evolutionary psychology, this kind of arrangement makes sense. Young males need to prove themselves, but once they have a partner, their role becomes that of a provider. Females, on the other hand, have the flip side of the dynamic. I wouldn't be surprised if a similar dynamic can be observed in various primates.

[@waveoflight]

@@naphackDT If you changed the words he/him to she/her you certainly would have seen woman bashing. Not to mention the racism and ageism.

[@catmovies1476]

social worker talks too much and sure does take a lot of trips on her gov grant money

[@torquewrench1969]

Kinna dry at the start, but has lots of good info on soil chem/biology. Lots more studying to do!