Putting Lots Of Fat In The Freeze Dryer. A LOT! -- Responding to Anti Fat Comments

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Scrambled Eggs with Bacon mountainhouse.com/collections/breakfasts/products/scrambled-eggs-with-bacon-pouch Ground Beef mountainhouse.com/collections/freeze-dried-meats/products/ground-beef-10-can Creamy Macaroni & Cheese mountainhouse.com/collections/vegetarian-meals/products/creamy-macaroni-cheese-pouch Veggie Chorizo Breakfast Scramble mountainhouse.com/collections/vegetarian-meals/products/veggie-chorizo-breakfast-scramble-pouch Dried Whole Egg Powder augasonfarms.com/collections/eggs-dairy/products/dried-whole-egg-powder Freeze-Dried Beef (100% Real Meat) augasonfarms.com/collections/meats-proteins/products/freeze-dried-beef-100-real-meat A couple of the Mountain House videos: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hauyp6Z6i7GSh5o kzbin.info/www/bejne/iojQd3aOaZV1h8U There are plenty of scientific and industry papers out there about food rancidity, and I've found them to be very interesting and informative; Chemists define roughly two ways a product can turn rancid: (Super simplified) 1. Oxidative rancidity: Reaction involves oxygen 2. Hydrolytic rancidity: Reaction involves water (The main mechanisms for it to go rancid involve water and/or oxygen, (and light) and we remove them all) Rancidity of Food: Introduction, Types, Factors and Prevention of Rancidity | Food Chemistry | Biotechnology www.biotechnologynotes.com/food-biotechnology/food-chemistry/rancidity-of-food-introduction-types-factors-and-prevention-of-rancidity-food-chemistry-biotechnology/14100 Food spoilage - Rancidity and food chemistry. September 14, 2017 Storing Food - chemical reactions, fats, food enzymes, preservation foodcrumbles.com/food-spoilage-rancidity-and-food-chemistry/ Prevention of Hydrolytic and Oxidative Rancidityand Nutrient Losses in Rice Bran During Storage digitalcommons.lsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=7859&context=gradschool_disstheses Rancidity www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agricultural-and-biological-sciences/rancidity Functions of Rosemary Extract in food and its labeling. www.nutexa.com/en/2017/11/16/functions-rosemary-extract-food-labeling/ Use of rosemary extracts as a food additive efsa.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.2903/j.efsa.2008.721 Water Activity (aw) in Foods safefood360.com/wp-content/uploads/Water_Activity_In_Foods.pdf Moisture Content and Water Activity kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y33MhJSkoMeZic0 Water Activity in Foods kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKLYpYemerqFg80 Water Activity of Foods | Food Technology Lecture kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYvTiZypjqafqrc Books: Freeze-Drying of Pharmaceutical and Food Products ISBN-13 ‏ : ‎ 978-0081014646 (I don't have this one yet - haven't seen a good price yet) Foods and Food Production Encyclopedia ISBN-13 ‏ : ‎ 978-1468485134 (got the paperback for a great price) Here is the list of Freeze dryers I've heard of: (If anyone knows of any others, please add to the list) (as of July 2023) harvestright.com/ (only one I've used) All the others might be great, I've just never tried them. p4lfood.com/ "The Cube" Same machine as the 4Patriots one? (Facebook page only a few months old?) 4patriots.com/products/4patriots-home-freeze-drying-system - Maybe built by Prep4 Life? stayfreshfreezedry.com/ - One person start-up import business? (Judging by the corporation papers listing a home as the Registered Address) www.cuddonfreezedry.com/products/ - Big - Probably not really a home unit. At least 20 times bigger than medium HR wmmachinery.com/products/freeze-dryer-for-home-use - Lower priced. Shipped direct from China? www.labrotovap.com/portfolio-item/large-home-freeze-dryer-lyophilizer-for-sale/ - Knockoff? Even used some of Harvest Right web page photos. www.usalab.com/freeze-dryers/ - Two models? Do they make or rebrand. freezedryco.com/equipment/food-cannabis/ Freeze Dry Company - more commercial www.hudsonvalleylyomac.com/stratus-mp3-series-floor-model.html Hudson Valley Lyomac - not really home size units d-freeze.com/ D-Freeze - Not out yet, being built in Canada www.freezedryfood.de/en/ FreezeDry® German bluealpinefreezedryers.com/ Blue Alpine Freeze Dryers - Idaho - Very new/Start-up - Looks very promising! (If I were buying one today, I'd look into this one) Remember, I'm just another idiot on the internet. Don't listen to me. I could be wrong. Research. The #1 joke at our house is "But, I saw it on the internet!" Consider looking at what commercial companies are doing. That's where I look to for guidance. If they can do it, we probably can too. (with method adjustments)

[@kelly1038]

Because I am here for help, because I have money invested in this machine. I want to do it right. I trust this guy, he is methodical.

[@cheymc237]

One of the MAIN reasons me and my husband love your videos is that you are informative and no nonsense and honestly you are one of the most believable you tubers that we watch. We appreciate your time and things we learn from you!! Keep doing what you do!!! Also, RoseRedHomestead is a lot like you and she teaches a lot of science and facts as she has a science back ground as a professor for the University of Utah. By far you two are the ones we look to for how you two do it!! Thanks again!!

[@robingirven4570]

I couldn’t agree with you more!!!

[@PattyLU2]

I love RoseRed too for the same reasons!

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks a lot!

[@cheymc237]

@@nanmaco I hate that happened but I have watched her for years and she is normally 100% on.

[@thefuzzman9833]

Spot on, I have learned far more here than all the other channels combined, Thanks Dan!

[@betsysmucker3708]

How is this channel not bigger??? It’s sooo informative! Thank you so much for your knowledge and expertise! I hit the like bottom on everyone I watched! I am a loyal fan!

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks a lot for watching and commenting.

[@floridaman9260]

You have delivered a master class on freeze drying from beginning to end and anyone who can't see or appreciate that has way bigger problems than freeze drying. Glad I found you and glad you have maintained your integrity and sincerity instead of selling out and pushing products or click bait for views. Hope you have a great day!

[@natem3152]

I agree Florida Man! I'm an engineering student and love freely available information. I'm tired of proprietary and secret info people push. Dan is our man. I appreciate you putting time on these videos for the next generation to benefit from! Love you brotha!

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks!

[@RightOnTarget1]

Retired Professional Chemical Engineer here. I like your style and value your content. Thanks for the information on fat. I think the key is to make sure our food is truly dry. The technique of continuing to dry until weight change is undetectable at 1 gm per tray resolution is very valuable. It takes much longer ( typically ~50 hours/batch) than the machine indicates, but I’m not in a rush.

[@SchoolReports]

Yes. Freeze drying is science, not microwave cooking.

[@laurenreis3488]

I agree completely about the weighing to determine being dry. If you are in a rush buy the freeze dried food. Also the moisture meters that I've seen used are designed for wood moisture and hardly reliable.

[@jeannettelavoie9829]

Can you please take the time to do a video on weighing your trees before they go in and knowing from that when your food is properly dried?

[@SchoolReports]

@@jeannettelavoie9829 I'm sorry, somehow I missed seeing your comment. (sometimes YT doesn't notify me of new comments) I show doing the _Dry Check_ weighing process in many of the videos, but I can try to do a video just showing the process. (added to my video list - thanks!) Mixed Vegetables - Every Little Detail - kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqHEZJeYasafaJIsi=IIcsuCGTtEG2aOQb

[@docspaugh]

You’ve opened up a new world to me after being terrified the past two years of FD fattier beef. Sent you a week of coffee. Thank you!

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks for watching and commenting! (And thanks so much for the coffee!)😁 This was one of the easier videos to make - Read the package labels and then say - Hey everybody! Look! There is fat in these! These are 20% fat by weight _before_ freeze drying and they have held up great so far. Rehydrating 4 1/2 Year Old, Freeze Dried, Raw Hamburger Patties - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nX3Cl4iwlsSqnKssi=A12jYZydxbYwAEua I've always thought it odd that there is such a fear of fats in the freeze dried food. The commercial stuff has plenty of fat and I'd been using it for 45+ years with no ill effects! The funny thing is that I get lots of comments about fat for every food I do that has any _visible/known_ fat in it, but not when I do ice cream or cheese or eggs! (or other foods with _lots_ of hidden fats) Eggs have a lot of fat! I only have 6 years of personal experience with OUR freeze dried items, so I only KNOW it's good for about 6 years. I assume that some foods will have a shorter shelf life; Mountain House only gives their ice cream bars a 3 year life span, and by way of comparison, has freeze dried ground beef that's good for 30 years. I assume (without proof, because I only have 6+ years of data) that we should be able to get a similar shelf life for similar products. If we could get 50% of that I'd be happy. However, we probably don't have the exact same product, I'm sure they have spent a LOT of time and money to perfect their recipes, ingredients, and processes. I'm a big advocate of rotating and monitoring my pantry of stored foods, so I might never have any that gets even 15 or 20 years old. I've heard from a couple of viewers that said they were kicked out of freeze dryer groups for saying that some commercial freeze dried foods have fat, or that maybe they should check to make sure it's dry before bagging. (I think they said Face Book groups? I don't do those things) I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, I'm just trying to show what I do and why, and show resources when I can. 🤣 I have to apologize for many of my older videos. Even I hate to look at them! They may be okay if you already know about freeze drying. In my focus to keep them very short, most of my older, shorter videos are almost devoid of information! I tried hard to keep the videos down to less then 10 or 15 minutes, no matter what I had to cut out! (Like information!) Remember, I'm just another idiot on the internet. I could be wrong. The #1 joke at our house is "But, I saw it on the internet!" Consider looking at what commercial companies are doing. That's where I look to for guidance. If they can do it, we probably can too. (with method adjustments)

[@docspaugh]

Up until now I’ve limited my proteins to turkey/chicken breast and planned on adding fat later from canned Wagyu beef tallow. Tomorrow I freeze dry raw fatty hamburgers! Thank you 🎉

[@SchoolReports]

@@docspaugh Freeze dried, raw, preformed burger patties are surprising how dry and _non_ oily they feel. They feel like cardboard. I would suggest turning the tray temperature down to 120ºf or even 115º Freeze Drying Hamburger Patties - Raw kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJCmiJ2Ia5Z2mposi=mKTUzKJHdu2XaOMl Spiral sliced ham is awesome for sandwiches! (True of most thin sliced meats) Ham on the go - kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2KqlpRul7uNa5Isi=5DXjrl3hfrbO8D9v

[@kayemoore]

I love all the science evidence based education you bring us - and with just the right amount of entertainment (tshirts, dad jokes). I encourage everyone to weight check for dryness. YOU’RE ENTIRELY AWESOME!

[@photofreak21]

That’s exactly what I like about you! I’m not here to be entertained but to get the facts! You are one of my favorites, for everything Freeze Drying. I know I can trust you because you are very methodical and are not afraid to admit when you aren’t sure about something but just that it has worked well for you. I am happy for you doing this video because I am one of those who, early on, have asked about the safety of freeze drying food with fat in it. There is a lot out there about it, and I’m pretty new at FD’ing! I wouldn’t bother with meat that I have to rinse all the fat and flavor, as well as nutrients out, with boiling water. Thank you, thank you ! Can’t wait to watch the rest of your video! Keep doing what you’re doing, we love you! ❤

[@donnarodriguez4755]

You are NOT an idiot. We appreciate your intelligence, hard work, and research. You are our go to site for freeze drying. And we do find you entertaining.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks!

[@DawnaRo]

WOW WOW WOW! Thank you so much! I have been concerned about the fat in my freeze dried meats going rancid because of people saying it would. YOU have done the research and bring proof to the table. I'm very grateful. Now I will FD meat without rinsing all the flavor out. Wish I had seen this sooner.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks for watching and commenting! To be fair, most of the research on this one was reading the labels on commercial freeze dried food bags and reading a few papers about food rancidity. (And testing my own 6 year old FD food) I've always thought it odd that there is such a fear of fats in the freeze dried food. The commercial stuff has plenty of fat and I'd been using it for 45+ years with no ill effects! Remember, I'm just another idiot on the internet. I could be wrong. The #1 joke at our house is "But, I saw it on the internet!" I look at what commercial companies are doing. If they can do it, we probably can too. (with method adjustments)

[@PHExpatPrepper]

Love the no nonsense, and you have such a large amount of experience, I would trust your advice. Been watching for a long time.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks! I'll have to go get caught up with yours, I hadn't checked since you first got your large up and running with the giant UPS.

[@PHExpatPrepper]

@@SchoolReports Yeah, that UPS is a life saver, additional costs but sure is needed out here. Thanks again for the fact based info on fat. It will help me change up my thinking.

[@SchoolReports]

This was kind of an easy one - Read the package labels and then say - Hey everybody! Look! There is fat in these! I was looking at getting a 30 amp UPS. They do not just give those away. 🤣 But if you need one like you do, it would be worth it.

[@Luv_2_Watch]

I JUST started researching freeze drying food at home. I haven't even bought anything yet. So, of course I took to YT. I've watched the channel you are referencing and heard them say you have to remove ALL fat to freeze dry. I asked myself, "Why can't I freeze dry fat???? I've been eating backpacking freeze dried food with fat in them for decades!" I noticed that channel just looked at the food and said, "It's dry so it's done". There must be some scientific way that will tell me besides just eye balling it! Soooooooo glad I kept looking and found this channel confirming I can!! TY😊

[@SchoolReports]

Yep! If you're not checking , you're just guessing! Thanks so much for watching and commenting.

[@patricianelson7911]

I am so glad you have taken the time to tell the rest of us the facts. I really enjoy watching your videos. You are so clear in making points and demonstrating how to do each thing. Thank you so much!

[@dianeivanoff6312]

AMEN!!!!! I have been saying this same things for months and months. I have no problem with fats within reason. Thank you for posting this info!

[@alison8186]

The Bob Ross of freeze drying x I think your both blooming wonderful x thank you kindly x

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks! And over here we'll have some happy little burger patties. . . . 🤣

[@abudhabig0ld]

My freeze dryer is still on lay-a-way but I've been watching and learning from you and I've collected the pans,, the thermometers, the parchment paper already. I have gotten so many ideas from watching you and I can't thank you enough for sharing what you have learned. down below (a while ago) I asked if I could freeze Italian sausage, and I now realize I can and I already have started freezing my leftovers rather than feeding the chickens and the dog (but lets not tell them). Keep up the videos, I love watching and learning, Thanks again for sharing.

[@ladyfritz8r]

Thank you sir. I'm less than a minute in to this first video I've ever seen from your collection and you've made me happy. I believe fat needs to stay attached to the meat we eat and I've been searching for answers on how to preserve it in the face of all the naysayers in the canning and freeze drying groups. I'm so new to freeze drying it hasn't been plugged in yet.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks for checking out our video and leaving a comment! I don't know what it is about people home freeze drying and fat; it never made sense to me. Commercial companies make freeze dried food with fat in them and it doesn't magically change because we're doing it a home. It's still the same process! Rehydrating 4 1/2 Year Old, Freeze Dried, Raw Hamburger Patties kzbin.info/www/bejne/nX3Cl4iwlsSqnKssi=rvD_5RDCNoRUfv2W I've heard from a couple of viewers that said they were kicked out of freeze dryer groups for saying that some commercial freeze dried foods have fat, or that maybe they should check (by doing a _Dry Check_ ) to make sure it's dry before bagging. (I think they said Face Book groups? I don't do those things) I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, I'm just trying to show what I do and why, and show resources when I can.

[@lisaclark4724]

Love your videos. Facts will every time.

[@mamie57]

I am trying to learn as much as I can. I like your honesty, science, and straight forward teaching. No need, or time, for gimmicks!

[@PattyLU2]

Oh man, I am so glad for this video. I love your videos (you replied on one of my comments I made about your repetitiveness on certain things and I appreciate why you repeat things! :) ) because of all the great technical info you provide. I learned about weighing my trays from you and have led others to your channel as well because of it! I will definitely stick around all the way to the end and likely comment again! LOL!

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks!

[@d-not-u]

Appreciate the information shared

[@BBLUVStheSky]

I've wondered and been so confused about this because of the fact that you can freeze dry cheese, heavy cream, ice cream, nuts etc... all have a lot of fat. I will not rinse my meat! That is absurd. Thank you for this. 👍

[@SchoolReports]

Exactly! Sometimes a person will say, in the _same comment,_ how the 5% fat meat needs to be washed, and then say how they freeze dry eggs, which are 50% fat! If they're going to wash the life out of it, they might as well use tofu. (and I'm not sure that's food)🤣 And, as always, remember, I'm just another idiot on the internet. I could be wrong. The #1 joke at our house is "But, I saw it on the internet!" Consider looking at what commercial companies are doing. That's where I look to for guidance. If they can do it, we probably can too. (with method adjustments)

[@cherri_p]

I for one really appreciate your approach. No nonsense, just the need to know information. I have learned so much from watching you.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks, I appreciate your comments. This video kind of took care of itself :) - Read the package labels and then say - Hey everybody! Look! There is fat in these! But "They" keep saying that there can be no fat in freeze drying! (And then "they" do cheese, eggs, and ice cream!)

[@jeffbryant545]

This is why I enjoy your channel. Very informative, educational, and not a lot of fluff for viewership. Keep it up the good work.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks for watching and for commenting!

[@thomasreddick5908]

SchoolReports, thank you for the education on this matter, I have been made to believe and I never did the research myself. You have changed my mind for sure. thank you, sir.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks! To be fair, most of the research on this one was reading the labels of the Mountain House freeze dried food bags that I've been using for almost 50 years! (And checking my own 6 year old FD food) This video kind of took care of itself :) - Read the package labels and then say - Hey everybody! Look! There is fat in these! But "They" keep saying that there can be no fat in freeze drying! (And then "they" do cheese, eggs, and ice cream!) Remember, I'm just another idiot on the internet. I could be wrong. The #1 joke at our house is "But, I saw it on the internet!" I look at what commercial companies are doing. If they can do it, we probably can too. (with method adjustments)

[@thomasreddick5908]

@@SchoolReports I agree with you I just never read the labels and took them for their word. Now I know. thank you again,.

[@sweetcraftything117]

I appreciate your content and find your channel to be straightforward and informative. This is refreshing for someone who is looking for reliable sources of information. A freeze dryer is a significant purchase, and I am still on the fence. In my research, I have found much value in your videos. I prefer the "just the facts" style videos. So thank you for that.😊

[@moniquekilmer7618]

I appreciate it too!

[@eileenniehaus5368]

Yes! The Facebook groups are full of so much crazy misinformation- this is the best source I’ve found and the only one I pretty much watch every video.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks so much for watching and commenting! I don't want to dissuaded anyone from buying a freeze dryer, but I'd say don't get one if you're not really sure.

[@TxCrudeHauler]

I wanted to say thank you for the information you provide, you do a great job. I have been looking at freeze dryers and your video's are very informative and you document you sources!

[@SchoolReports]

🤣 Thanks! And thanks for watching and commenting. To be fair most of the research on this one was reading the labels on Mountain House freeze dried food bags. (And testing my own 5 year old FD food) Remember, I'm just another idiot on the internet. I could be wrong. The #1 joke at our house is "But, I saw it on the internet!" I look at what commercial companies are doing. If they can do it, we probably can too. (with method adjustments)

[@TxCrudeHauler]

@@SchoolReports Yeah we have the same joke in my house....

[@iselasmith4526]

Amen Brother! Push back with both hands and put your back into it.

[@SchoolReports]

🤣 Lift with your legs - Push with your back 🤣

[@rtucker0458]

Thanks for your no nonsense explanations and backing it up with factual information. In this day and age, it's hard to just get definitive information. So again.. Thanks.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks! I don't know if mine makes it to the level of definitive information, but I can read a package label! 🤣

[@CHEFTECH86]

This is one of the best, most educational videos you have done, EVER! All you videos are a joy to watch and I’m always learning, even at 58 yrs old. I just had to replace my relay board, (under warranty barely) and the new software update looks to have addressed some of the old issues. But I will forever do the weight test on every batch! Thank you for your work. MT.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks so much for that. This one kind of took care of itself :) - Read the package labels and then say - Hey everybody! Look! There is fat in these! But _"They"_ keep saying that there can be no fat in freeze drying! (And then "they" do cheese, eggs, and ice cream!) So far my machine has been relatively trouble free, though we did have a melted power wire early on. I sure would love to know the percentage of machines that end up with issues. 🤔 I assume it's actually a low percentage, but I have no way of knowing. And when it's your machine, its a 100% fail!

[@kimberlyblake1786]

Thank you! I am relieved there can be fat in freeze dried meats.

[@SchoolReports]

Just some examples of commercial companies are doing it; if they can we probably can too. (with method adjustments)

[@baldeagle242]

Your intro to this video earned you a subscriber! I love to see real people doing real things without all the fluff.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks!

[@littlebird3022]

I’ve had my HarvestRight for about year now and have learned a lot from utubers but you by far are my most trusted source. Thank you for easing my mind about fat in the food and the method for weighting the trays to insure maximum drying.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks for watching and commenting! To be fair most of the research on this one was reading the labels on Mountain House freeze dried food bags. (And testing my own 5 year old FD food) I've always thought it odd that there is such a fear of fats in the freeze dried food. The commercial stuff has plenty of fat and I'd been using it for 45+ years with no ill effects! Remember, I'm just another idiot on the internet. I could be wrong. The #1 joke at our house is "But, I saw it on the internet!" I look at what commercial companies are doing. If they can do it, we probably can too. (with method adjustments)

[@makosandburger8668]

I watched your burger video earlier this week and YT recommended this video. I wanted to let you know that I VERY much appreciate your videos and you've another subscriber to your channel. Thank you for questioning what the rest of the herd is blaaaathering.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks so much for watching and commenting! (and subscribing) I've always thought it odd that there is such a fear of fats in the freeze dried food. The commercial stuff has plenty of fat and I'd been using it for 45+ years with no ill effects! Remember, I'm just another idiot on the internet. I could be wrong. The #1 joke at our house is "But, I saw it on the internet!" Consider looking at what commercial companies are doing. That's where I look to for guidance. If they can do it, we probably can too. (with method adjustments)

[@patwinkeller9254]

After watching your videos, I started feeling much more comfortable with the process of freeze drying my food. I learned from you how important it is to weigh my food before and when it is supposedly dry, then put it back in until it it is no longer losing weight. Now I feel like my food is properly freeze dried. Thank you for your videos!

[@SchoolReports]

I've been surprised again and again about the amount of water in "dry" things. Like the "dry" Minute rice that we did; that was a surprising amount of water.

[@isa30001]

Thank you for not doing the click bait thumbnails! I'm a fan of longer videos as long as they're informative ❤

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks so much for watching and for commenting!

[@derf_the_mule1405]

I appreciate you addressing this issue. I am looking into freeze drying, and this was a question I have had. I stopped buying Mountain House when they changed some recopies to gluten free and kept the names. They are terrible now and I lost all confidence in Oregon Freeze Dry. May they rest in pieces...

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks for watching and for commenting. That's too bad to hear that Mountain House has done that. I haven't had any of those, as far as I know, but I haven't had to buy any for years. I do like all my own recipes better than theirs anyway:) I wonder when the gluten free fad will end. Did you see my homemade vs Mountain House beef stew video? kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZDTZp1rpN6La68si=MOvQoDGWPTzC-rEg

[@derf_the_mule1405]

@@SchoolReports The change was around Mar 2020. Try the new gluten free Breakfast Skillet. It is terrible and the reviews since reflect that.

[@SchoolReports]

@@derf_the_mule1405 Thanks for the heads-up! I think I'll try to avoid the new ones. (Unless I need to for a comparison with my own versions)

[@kpowers9002]

i love the details and watching your videos. I trust your knowledge and so i learn so much from you. i got my dryer working right now.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks! 👍Very glad to hear yours is working; What ended up being the issue?

[@WinkTartanBelle]

Finally! Some small bit of sanity in my day. Thank you for this.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks! I feel like it's almost cheating - I'm just reading food package labels on video!

[@WinkTartanBelle]

@@SchoolReports Well you see, that's sort of the point. You are actually *reading the labels*. Like I said, sanity. Again, thank you.

[@katana600dee]

@@SchoolReportsit's only cheating if you read the package and pretend you have some exclusive equipment you used to measure it yourself. Your forthright way of teaching is encouraging us to think for ourselves.

[@rebeccastruwin2369]

Thank you for sharing this info with everyone!

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks for watching and commenting! To be fair most of the research on this one was reading the labels on Mountain House freeze dried food bags.

[@John-el7pr]

You re a true educator, you teach. I don’t even freeze dry yet but before I start I would like to know something about it, that’s why I’m watching this.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@JB-tp9we]

The rocks in the water, great picture, its on the Oregon coast if not mistaken, I have taken similar shots of them. I really appreciate your videos with all the good information. I just got the Stay Fresh FD and like it. I follow your protocol for making shure my food is dry. So far it has not been dry when the FD thinks it is. Thanks again!

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks. Yes. it's The Three Graces north of Tillamook.

[@theresamcpherson7352]

Thank you for this, the voice of reason and logic! This is why I watch your channel.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks for watching and for commenting! It turns out that my big skill is reading commercial freeze dried food labels. 🤣😁

[@kathrynyateman7419]

Yes would love a live stream any info. On freeze drying fatty type meat!

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks. I'm still trying to get caught up on things. When we do our meats we do trim off any loose fat. (But this is mostly because we don't like the fat on our meat and would have trimmed it for any storage method) We don't really worry about little bits of fat and it has done perfectly for over 5 years now.

[@cdanielh128]

Thanks for this video. I have looked at a couple of videos and after seeing this one clear up so much confusion in a respectful manner and with the research to back it up! I have subscribed. I will share with the wife as we get started on our Freeze Drying Journey. Thank you for all you do here.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks for watching and commenting. Do you already have a freeze dryer? (I have a list in the pinned comment:) Remember, I'm just another idiot on the internet. I could be wrong. The #1 joke at our house is "But, I saw it on the internet!" Consider looking at what commercial companies are doing. That's where I look to for guidance. If they can do it, we probably can too. (with method adjustments) Commercial freeze drying companies have to get it right every time or they don't become an old company! Mountain House has been doing this for more than 50 years. (I've been eating their stuff for more than 45 years!)

[@lindabaca1850]

Excellent class and info! Thank you

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks for watching and commenting! To be fair most of the research on this one was reading the labels on Mountain House freeze dried food bags. (And checking my own 6 year old FD food) Remember, I'm just another idiot on the internet. I could be wrong. The #1 joke at our house is "But, I saw it on the internet!" I look at what commercial companies are doing. If they can do it, we probably can too. (with method adjustments)

[@ish_runs_feral]

I just got into your channel. I just got into freeze drying. I appreciate what you do, its extremely informative, easy to follow with. I like your format. Keep doing what you are doing and I'll keep watching and sharing your videos with my mutual assistant group!

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks for watching and for commenting! Remember, I'm just another idiot on the internet. I could be wrong. The #1 joke at our house is "But, I saw it on the internet!" I look at what commercial companies are doing. If they can do it, we probably can too. (with method adjustments) "If you read it on the Internet, it's absolutely true!" - Abraham Lincoln

[@kamenet]

Appreciate the focus on the practical detail. Much better for troubleshooting.

[@ruthannwatson8848]

Thank you for all the great reliable information. You have taught me a lot. Who cares if you are entertaining or not. You are one of the most knowledgeable freeze dry experts out there.

[@janaeheadley6602]

I appreciate all your videos and always look forward to them! Both long and short! 😂 You deserve way more subscribers than you have! Thanks for being so informative, and keep those videos comimg! Oh and by the way....... I got my shrimp when it was on sale...thanks to you... and its all freeze dried. Yay!! 😊 and I can't thank you enough for NOT making all those silly faces people do for their thumbnails. I have actually quit watching some channels because of that.

[@kmartin2988]

I am late to the party, but really grateful for this video as fat has been a concern for me for long-term storage. i haven't even done any prepared meals in the fder for this reason! You have opened a whole new world for me. Thank you.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks for watching and for commenting! I thought it so very odd, since before we even got our freeze dryer, that home freeze drying people seemed to live in constant fear of anything with fats. Yet the commercial stuff has plenty of fat and I'd been using it for 45+ years with no ill effects! The funny thing is that I get lots of comments about fat for every food I do that has ANY visible/known fat in it, except when I do ice cream or cheese or eggs! (or other foods with lots of hidden fats) It's like they can't read a label.

[@urbanpreppingwithpam916]

I watch you because you DON,T do all that stupid stuff! I love your “just the facts” non-nonsense videos. You are the best! Thank you for such an informative channel.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks so much for the kind words! Just remember, I'm just another idiot on the internet. I could be wrong. (But I do try to test and show my work) The #1 joke at our house is "But, I saw it on the internet!" I look at what commercial companies are doing. If they can do it, we probably can too. (with method adjustments) "If you read it on the Internet, it's absolutely true!" - Abraham Lincoln

[@kellemontgomery5996]

Lol to the thumbnail comment as they drive me nuts.Love your channel as well and I've learned a lot.

[@alisamuir9864]

❤❤ don’t stop giving us all your inspiration and excellent info.

[@SquishyTheSlime]

Thank you for this! I love your videos. Just like I love Rose Red Homestead too because of all the real science and information. Sure, the videos can get long but they are full of so much information! I wish Harvest Right used your info instead of that other (LLS) guy. I can't take his videos at all! Keep doing what you do! So many of us that are serious about this are learning so much from you. Thank you for sharing with us!

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks you for continuing to watch and comment! I'm 6 years in and I'm still learning. I'll always look to what the 50 year old freeze drying commercial companies are doing. They HAVE TO get it right every time or they don't become an old company! (Next I'm going to add nitrogen)

[@alisamuir9864]

I also enjoy watching Phil at 4800.

[@steelhorses2004]

BTW we just finished batch # 50 yesterday! Woohoo! Little over 300lbs of food. Thanks for the inspiration.

[@SchoolReports]

Congratulation!

[@SusanWBeauty]

You are a blessing to the YT community!

[@michellearmstrong8322]

People have been saying that the commercial companies are using (nitrogen?) as well during packaging, and that is why their meat products could be lasting longer. I have no idea if that is true, have you heard of that?

[@SchoolReports]

A lot of commercially packaged foods are nitrogen flushed before sealing the bag. (e.g. Potato chips) Most of the time it"s done instead of oxygen absorbers. The goal is the same as oxygen absorbers - to remove the oxygen and only leave the nitrogen.

[@jlhiegert901]

Excellent information! We do truly appreciate your very science and fact based videos! Your precise way of showing us how to freeze dry has been extremely helpful as we venture into freeze drying foods. Thank you for the time you take to demonstrate and explain how and why you do the things you do! It is very rare that I comment on anything online, but want you to know we see the value in what you do!⭐️

[@SchoolReports]

Thank you!

[@Pitman556]

Just found your channel and followed for the information. Appreciate these types of videos. I want to see some freeze dried coffee recipes in the future or maybe you already did one?

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks for watching and commenting! Coffee? Kind of. 🤣 I did freeze dry some Dutch Bros Coffee drinks for my sister. They were shorter videos and don't show every step, like the Dry Check. Freeze Drying Dutch Bros Coffee: Dutch Freeze drinks - kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZoTMoqN6lNihmLc Freeze Drying Dutch Bros Coffee - Had a Power Outage - kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZfZmo2woad6a7s Coffee was one of the first freeze-dried products to be marketed on a large scale. It's so cheap and good that I don't make my own. This is by far my most hated video I've made (and my personal favorite video - it was fun to make:) Apparently some people can't take a joke; maybe they don't notice the video was put up on April 1st? - How We Do Freeze Dried Coffee - You can't do it better than commercial (or cheaper) - Why Try? kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXS1mK1vidCno68 I also tried freeze drying a sample of freshly ground coffee. It made the Worst. Coffee. Ever. (My son works roasting and grinding coffee - we always have very freshly roasted coffee) Maybe I'll read up on how the big companies make it work and try again someday. I know they extract the coffee as a very, very thick liquid before freezing.

[@vahobbygal]

Thank you so much for doing this video! I do mostly "meal in a bag" freeze drying and I've been so worried because most of the meals use ground beef (economical, versatile, rehydrates easily). I also do a lot of scrambled eggs and sausage. All the other KZbinrs constantly warn about the fat so I've avoided numerous meals or casseroles I've wanted to fd because of the fat content. I really appreciate your candidness and personality, but most of all your fact based guidance. This video makes me feel so much better!

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks so much for watching and commenting. I'm really hopeful that we can get more people to simply start reading the labels of commercially made freeze dried foods and wonder why they are being told that they can't have any food with any fat in it. I get asked about fat in freeze drying when I add 8 tablespoons of butter to 14 lbs of mashed potatoes, but not when I FD ice cream or cheese or eggs. Of course it is very important to make sure it's dry, use good bags, and good oxygen absorbers.

[@diversparadise7058]

Interesting, thanks for sharing and your patience

[@janb8015]

You are one of my most favorite KZbinrs because I trust you, you give facts, and you explain. Also, don't sell yourself short... you can be very humorous but it's a dry sense of humor =)

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks. 😊

[@joshporksandwich]

Thanks for what you do. I watch your videos all the time because of the amount of information you provide. Keep up the good work.

[@alanavillanueva1899]

I appreciate everything you do to help us.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks for watching and for commenting!

[@williamgras5598]

Excellent video, I was suspicious of fat myself but I knew somehow it was unfounded. Good research!

[@bonniemitchell6048]

Thanks!

[@SchoolReports]

Wow! Thanks!

[@NinaClark-rg7zz]

Thanks for all the hard work you do on this channel You always use common sense!! And you always back it up with facts 😊

[@eileenniehaus5368]

This is why we can trust him more too, and why I keep telling the Facebook folks to check him out. This is my favorite KZbin on any topic. 😁

[@strugglebus5665]

I laughed so hard at the figurative thumbnail picture! I loved that! My children heard me laugh and came to see what was soooo funny! 🤣Now to finish watching the rest of the video.

[@SchoolReports]

Yes, if I EVER use one of those thumbnail with the "You Won't Believe What Happened!" titles, you will want to watch that one! Even I can't imagine what it would be.

[@eileenniehaus5368]

Yes! Those are always the worst and I scroll by. Love your channel!

[@beatriceannbaker3350]

I’m so thankful for all of your videos! When I asked about the tuna salad and using Miracle Whip instead of mayo and commenting that you figured out the work around cause everyone was saying you can’t FD mayo. You took the time to explain it all to me and now I have beef fajita meat with some fat in the FD. I did some cheesy potatoes as well since our potatoes from the garden were ready. I absolutely love all of your videos. Everyone has a FD nugget of information!! 😊

[@SchoolReports]

🤣 Thanks! To be fair, most of the research on this one was reading the labels on Mountain House freeze dried food bags. (And testing my own 5 year old FD food) I've always thought it odd that there is such a fear of fats in the freeze dried food. The commercial stuff has plenty of fat and I'd been using it for 45+ years with no ill effects! Once again, remember, I'm just another idiot on the internet. I could be wrong. The #1 joke at our house is "But, I saw it on the internet!" I look at what commercial companies are doing. If they can do it, we probably can too. (with method adjustments)

[@bc24roxy4]

You referred this me to this link after i just watched you rehydrate 2018 tri ti. I have been wondering about those companies that sell bacon, steaks with obvious fat in them and i have been avoiding meats with fat since i got my freeze drier and i think of all the money i could've saved!! Thanks again for sharing your knowledge Looking for meat sale now.😮

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks for letting me know that you made it over here to this video! (This video _may_ have been made after reading one too many anti fat comment saying that I couldn't do what _I had just shown me doing!_ I'm just finishing making the next video showing rehydrating more raw beef from 2018 and some cooked beef from 2022. 👍 We just bought lbs of Tri Tip ($4.09/lb) and we're going to check tomorrow to see if they have more. Our personal preference (and always has been) is for the lower fat cuts of meat, like the trimmed Tri Tip, but we don't mind a bit of marbling. So many foods that the anti fat people are freeze drying have a lot of fat, but the fat fearful seem to ignore it and focus on _any visible_ fat. (Or they don't know) Cheese, ice cream, and eggs, all can have more fat than beef.

[@adsrentals]

I started to watch your channel before purchasing my freeze dryers, your information has been a great resource. I don't seek "entertainment" in my food preservation, good information and equipment leads to success! I love my Costco FD chicken, even as a snack by itself. I prefer my FD free range raw eggs to cook with over the fresh!

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks so much for watching and commenting!

[@dmerth]

WHO KNEW! Thanks

[@SchoolReports]

Label readers! 🤣

[@PattyLU2]

aaannnddd BOOM! Excellent information. THANK YOU!! And a live-stream sounds fun!

[@urbanpreppingwithpam916]

When I was a kid, there was a show called Dragnet where Sgt Friday would tell the rambling witnesses, “Just the facts, Ma’am, just the facts”. I love your videos because you don’t ramble and give us “just the facts”. You give so much good information and I really appreciate it. Thank you for these great videos.

[@SchoolReports]

😁 Thanks! Oh, I ramble, a lot. I sometimes go on 10 minute tangents, I just try to cut most of it out. 😇 Jack Webb and Harry Morgan - Good show. I'm pretty sure I watched them all. The second series, '67 - '70, first came out when I was in 2nd or 3rd grade, but we didn't have a TV until I was in about 5th grade. Thank goodness for reruns back then. (and only 2 channels)

[@caribecastaway6447]

I wish more you tubers would delete the hype and get to the facts. You are the go to source for freeze drying facts, what works and what doesn't. Thanks for your videos. Freeze drying beef stew and chicken stew are some of my favorites, chili too . I find them so much more forgiving to rehydrate plus I can store them in bulk packages.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks. If they would read the labels on commercial packages, they could learn a lot. I agree that stews and chili dishes are very forgiving when rehydrating! (and so good!) Too thick and you have a dip, too thin and you have a soup - no problems! And they tend to rehydrate quickly.

[@Jlr677]

You don't have to be an entertainer, however, you did well with the faces made in your introduction:). My freeze dryer is arriving tomorrow. I like watching your channel because of the detail put into the weights and measures. I think it adds a level of assurance going forward in the storage. I am going to try and pattern my freeze dried packing and storage organization after the type that you presented in your videos. Keep up the good work!

[@kathygarner419]

Spam: Canned pork shoulder, Hawaiian's love the stuff. It 's a kind of compressed meat in a can. I detest the stuff, because we ate a lot of similar meat byproduct when I was a kid.

[@SchoolReports]

😁 Yes, we (my sister) have freeze dried Spam. Batch 574 - Sister's Turkey Spam & Canned Ham Slices - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pouVemSAqadpoZYsi=3n7TGcHJisP5Uc8R The one commenter I was referring to in the video said that Spam "broke their machine." My question was - How did Spam break a freeze dryer? 🤣 I never found out.

[@kennethgren8549]

Thank you so much sir, I'll be watching all your videos!

[@Deedle-xh5ue]

Thank you. I’ve been doing raw meat just fine. Beef, venison, chicken… I hated hearing to rinse the ground beef. I did not want to do this. I appreciate you making me feel better about what I’m doing.

[@SchoolReports]

This was kind of an easy one - Read the package labels and then say - Hey everybody! Look! There is fat in these! I've always thought it odd that there is such a fear of fats in the freeze dried food. The commercial stuff has plenty of fat and I'd been using it for 45+ years with no ill effects! Remember, I'm just another idiot on the internet. I could be wrong. The #1 joke at our house is "But, I saw it on the internet!" Consider looking at what commercial companies are doing. That's where I look to for guidance. If they can do it, we probably can too. (with method adjustments)

[@mujeresconstructivas4219]

Thank you for your great information ❤

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@gotchageek6293]

I have found your content to be my go to for learning how to better my freeze dry journey. Thank you!

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@debbiedesigns]

I truly appreciate FACTS more than I value entertainment. You're awesome--thanks for taking the time to inform. (I can do without funny-face click bait!)

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks for watching and commenting, I appreciate that!

[@SandyVos2012]

Oh, I’m so happy to be watching this video. The fat carries so much of the flavor! Thank you for the level of research you put into your videos.

[@SchoolReports]

🤣 Thanks! To be fair most of the research on this one was reading the labels on Mountain House freeze dried food bags. (And testing my own 5 year old FD food) Remember, I'm just another idiot on the internet. I could be wrong. The #1 joke at our house is "But, I saw it on the internet!" I look at what commercial companies are doing. If they can do it, we probably can too. (with method adjustments)

[@carrierichardson6619]

Not only does fat carry the flavor it brings vital nutrition & energy as well!

[@lawlorerin]

Thank you! I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and experiences. You’ve been such an inspiration. Your 80/20 ground beef video made me comfortable freeze drying hamburger. And I believe the fat content will be essential if we get to food shortages IMO. My take away from this video is to consider freeze drying more raw meat too.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks! I just really want people to remember to look at want the commercial companies are doing and realize that they have fat in their foods.

[@danhandke5012]

Love your videos. Learned more from you than any other channel.❤❤❤❤

[@kathrynyateman7419]

Thank You for this!!!! I don’t want to wash my hamburger!

[@dustinbrady8900]

I think you may be the greatest man who ever lived. I've been wondering this as well and will finally try freeze drying my ground beef

[@SchoolReports]

🤣 I don't know about that, but I can read a freeze dried food label!

[@kathyduncan6227]

I really enjoy your videos. They are so informative and I don’t know a lot of the scientific things that you talk about. I’m so glad you made this video. I have rinsed all my hamburger but now I will follow your video. Thanks for all the work and information you provide.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks for watching and commenting. I've thought it so odd since before we even got our freeze dryer, that home freeze drying people seemed to live in constant fear of anything with fats. The funny thing is that I get lots of comments about fat for every food I do that has ANY visible/known fat in it, except when I do ice cream or cheese! (and I don't wash my ice cream either) Eggs are about 50% fat when dried and it seems no one has an issue with those! I only have about 6 years of personal experience with OUR freeze dried items, so I only KNOW it's good for about 5 1/2 years. 😁 It turns out that my big skill is the ability to read freeze dried food bag labels! 🤣 Remember, I'm just another idiot on the internet. I could be wrong. Research. The #1 joke at our house is "But, I saw it on the internet!" Consider looking at what commercial companies are doing. That's where I look to for guidance. If they can do it, we probably can too (with method adjustments), and they have meats with 40% fat by weight, dry, and guaranteed for 30 years!. Commercial freeze drying companies HAVE TO get it right every time or they don't become an old company! Mountain House has been doing this for more than 50 years.

[@IvesHives1]

Great info. thank you very much.

[@shockmarkets7384]

Thank you. This was exactly the information I was looking for.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks for watching and commenting! It turns out that my big video making skill is the ability to read freeze dried food bag labels! I only have about 6 years of personal experience with _our_ freeze dried items, so I only *know* it's good for about that long. I left links in the pinned comments to a bunch of research items to consider. Remember, I'm just another idiot on the internet. I could be wrong. Research. The #1 joke at our house is "But, I saw it on the internet!" Consider looking at what commercial companies are doing. That's where I look to for guidance. If they can do it, we probably can too (with method adjustments), and they have meats with 40% fat by weight, dry, and guaranteed for 30 years!. Commercial freeze drying companies *_have to_* get it right every time or they don't become an old company! Mountain House has been doing this for more than 50 years.

[@hiflyer747]

Would really love to see you put together a manual/book with all your freeze drying experience & knowledge

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks so much for the kind words again! (And of course, thanks for watching and for commenting!) I would love to have the ability to write something, but I can barely manage to write captions in the videos or answer comments. Maybe I could do something in the style of a question and answer page. (FAQ?) I do try to answer any question anyone asks in the comments, either in the comments and/or in a video, if visuals are needed.

[@BullShite-et2hf]

WEll, it's difficult to get people to understand facts. Great Vid thanks

[@panpiper]

Thank you. This is exactly what I needed to hear.

[@martharayon7194]

You are an amazing trainer and educator, I have learned so so much from you!

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks so much! 😁 It turns out that my big video making skill is the ability to read freeze dried food bag labels! 🤣 I only have about 6 years of personal experience with OUR freeze dried items, so I only KNOW it's good for about 5 1/2 years. Remember, I'm just another idiot on the internet. I could be wrong. Research. The #1 joke at our house is "But, I saw it on the internet!" Consider looking at what commercial companies are doing. That's where I look to for guidance. If they can do it, we probably can too (with method adjustments), and they have meats with 40% fat by weight, dry, and guaranteed for 30 years!. Commercial freeze drying companies HAVE TO get it right every time or they don't become an old company! Mountain House has been doing this for more than 50 years.

[@dorawhisman515]

Thank You!! The fat is esp important when food is scarce. Health wise our bodies need some fats. You are refreshing.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks so much for watching and commenting. To be fair most of the research on this one was reading the labels on Mountain House freeze dried food bags. Remember, I'm just another idiot on the internet. I could be wrong. The #1 joke at our house is "But, I saw it on the internet!" I look at what commercial companies are doing. If they can do it, we probably can too. (with method adjustments)

[@steelhorses2004]

I freeze dried some precooked breakfast sausage patties recently. The patties came out wonderful hard and dry but the tray had lots of grease and oil in it. I decided to just put those patties in the freezer believing the old legend that you couldn't freeze dry fatty foods like that. I should try them again and line and cover the patties with paper towels to catch all the grease. Thanks for this video. It really helps.

[@SchoolReports]

Definitely worth the paper towels any time there might be fats, it also helps keep the chamber clean. You could do some long term testing with the ones you put in the freezer. Perhaps bag some of them with just 1 or 2 patties per bag (maybe a dozen bags), shelve them, and then open and test one bag every 6 months or so. You could leave the rest in the freezer for piece of mind, KNOWING that they will always be good for uses where you know they will be used in a short time frame.

[@terryeabbott7554]

Thank you for this video. You videos are my go to for freeze drying education. I really don't enjoy watching the "cute" FDing videos ....I always want to say to them, " but you don't know that is really dry!" Keep up the great work, we really do appreciate it.

[@SchoolReports]

Thank you for watching and commenting! That one of the reasons I don't watch them. It just makes me sad to think that they are bagging without "knowing" the food is dry. Might as well guess, and they are.

[@silverchickadee4130]

What is the “You Tube Face”? 😂 Thank you for doing this. I appreciate your methodical and thorough approaches to finding answers to questions. I have about 100 lbs of ground beef I need to freeze dry so this was timely. I also pressure can browned ground beef, and I have seen canners recommend rinsing their ground beef and it drives me nuts! Worse yet, they rinse it directly down their drain. Argh.

[@SchoolReports]

🤣The open mouth shocked reaction face thumbnail. kzbin.info/www/bejne/amTMlnyiaKp1bs0 Thanks for watching and commenting! www.howtogeek.com/fyi/why-everyone-makes-dumb-faces-in-youtube-thumbnails/

[@GradeBmoviefan]

This is a terrific video! It brings a lot of comfort to me also. Thank you so much for making this. I know a lot of thought went into this. ~Sharon from Florida

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks. If nothing else, maybe a few more people will start reading the labels on commercially made freeze dried food and wonder.

[@MrKang0329]

I've wondered about it because raw eggs are half fat as you mentioned. I was in long range reconnaissance in Vietnam where I consumed many freeze dried meals, known as LRRP rations. One in particular, spaghetti with meat sauce, was often full of fat. I remember it clearly because we didn't have access to hot water on reconnaissance missions, so we had to rehydrate the meals with cold water. Cold greasy fat was the result. Obviously they didn't have a problem with the fat content. Thanks for the information.

[@SchoolReports]

Thanks so much for your comment! As you've said, there is plenty of fat in lots of things we've had over the years. I really don't understand the almost panic level of fear of fat in our home freeze drying, while at the same time ignoring the fat in eggs, ice cream, shredded cheese, etc. Your right; when rehydrating foods with fats, hot water sure helps - *a lot!* 😁