Pvt Video-Sutherland & Kraus bring the house down in Final scene of Lucrezia Borgia-1989

[@arnaudkientz1571]

Merci merci merci !!!!! Ça fait partie des plus grands souvenirs de ma vie. Le privilège absolu d’avoir été là ce soir là. Merci pour ton travail !

[@MrStpendouslvforjo]

My God, I LOVED that!! I’ve been waiting YEARS to see this video! What a wonderful Christmas present this was! Thank you so much for posting this!! 💚

[@Classicvideofan]

Thk you for your comment ... it makes me very hapy : merry Christmas then :))

[@magicmonkichi]

Well now....that's how it is done! Two of the greatest singers in (For me) their greatest roles. The maturity in their voices only enhance the emotions of the scene. Many thanks for sharing.

[@chrisfinlay3274]

OMG can't believe it's actually available to see. Thank You so much!!

[@nwdixieboy]

She looks marvelous. That final D at 62 was unreal!!!

[@Classicvideofan]

Is'nt it transposed ?

[@PeteBMan]

​@Classicvideofan it is supposed to be an Eb but heck, I'll take it

[@ym2775]

It is Des‘‘‘, full tone transposed.

[@michaelpapadopoulos5450]

Even with cabaletta cut in half and transposed, still a goddess after all these years ❤❤!

[@joshuamcpherson007]

OMG. Thank you so much for up-loading this scene! What a treasure for Kraus and Sutherland fans...and they both sound wonderful.

[@DanielSutin-yz6fd]

They do not have singers like this anymore!

[@steffeng40]

singers are original creatures, so they did not have them earlier either.

[@mikedowning4869]

What a complete pair is stars. I saw Sutherland and Kraus several times and they were always superb. Sutherland's top.notes set your head ringing even at the back of Covent Garden and Kraus was a perfect tenor and actor on stage. His performance of 'Salut demeure chaste et pure ' from Faust moved me to tears 😊😊😊

[@katimwong2623]

Just amazing. At 62, she's still better than most of sopranos At 26 nowadays!

[@cadoh8143]

Muito agradecido. Um belo presente de Natal. Merci Beaucoup!!!! saudações do sul do Brasil, de Blumenau.

[@ktrewin23]

A wonderful and long-awaited Christmas present. Thank you so much for your efforts in posting this. Kraus and Sutherland are my dream team. ❤

[@crisha721]

Wow!! Their dramatic involvement in the duet was amazing, but she really cleaaared the house with that huge high note ending. Amazing!!!

[@AkaiGX]

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@user-highbaritone]

Thank you again.

[@miguelsalinas4143]

Increible!!!!!❤❤❤

[@chrisfinlay3274]

They don't have ovations like that anymore.

[@NemesisTheInevitable]

They don't sing like that anymore as well.

[@barahona68]

​@@NemesisTheInevitableTotally true, despite being 2 singers at the end of their careers!

[@lamiremilamila]

Sublime 🎉

[@nwdixieboy]

It is unbelievable that she can still sing like this at 63!!!! That high D was still simply amazing. She could go higher but D was always her best note. Only Callas for a few years was able to sing notes like that above the staff besides her with that much volume.

[@piruja1965-mf6sw]

You probably reversed the names, Callas had a normal voice, Sutherland had a bigger voice than Callas. And then about the high notes: Callas high notes were strident, ugly. Sutherland's high notes were beautiful

[@wotan10950]

I saw at the Met together in Lucia di Lammermoor and Daughter of the Regiment.

[@Classicvideofan]

What is your memory of these performances ?

[@wotan10950]

@ First, it was nearly impossible to snag a Lucia ticket. I had to sign up for a college class on opera appreciation, simply because the tuition included a ticket. I had seen Sutherland many times before she was “fired” by the Met. And she was getting on in years. But her voice sounded as full, resonant, and brilliant as ever. For those who never heard her in a theater, it was a physical experience - the higher she went, the more brilliant she sounded, and the tone would ricochet through the theater. Kraus, as always, was thoroughly dependable, with ease throughout his range, and popped out high notes with seemingly no effort. I didn’t find his actual tone ingratiating though, a little too nasal. They were again in fine form for Daughter of the Regiment, having quite a romp, although the opera isn’t a favorite of mine.

[@DavidLoesch-mz5uo]

Me too!

[@gildamaini1799]

Qui c’è poco da descrivere perché non esistono aggettivi per qualificarLi !!!!!! Grazie grazie grazie

[@tamerlan2677]

The best singers ever!

[@lamiremilamila]

Sublime🎉

[@massimopasticci1761]

Troppo brava la N 1 in Lucrezia

[@jaguilos2345]

Así es. La mejor Lucrezia que se haya escuchado.....

[@miguelsalinas4143]

Que Maravilla!!!!

[@asdfopera5210]

So amazing to see this. ❤

[@clefnoteproductions6695]

63 and still sounding pretty descent. Granted, it wasn't the easy production of a decade or three ago but not bad at all. Kraus too very care of his voice and knew his limits

[@steffeng40]

but the next generation has been able to preserve their voices to an even later date, in some cases into their seventies. But there will never be another Sutherland.

[@YvanLachurie]

Joansutherland est la plus grande soprano colorature de l histoire de l opera une voix fantastique aucune ne chante comme elle même en fin de carrière et l autre plus grande colorature était mado robin dans un autre registre leur secrets travail technique et souffle aucun chanteur d aujourd'hui leur arrivent à la cheville.

[@Classicvideofan]

Je pense que Dessay et Gruberova sont aussi parmi les 'plus grandes' non ? personnellement je ne suis pas fan de Mado Robin dont le timbre m'est assez désagréable .... mais toutes ces artistes ont d'immenses qualités non ? après c'est affaire de goût je pense ;)

[@ritawing1064]

Liceu Barcelona orchestra and chorus?

[@Classicvideofan]

I don't think so but I am not sure and can't find the info in archives ...

[@ritawing1064]

@Classicvideofan thanks: we (the Liceu) did a concert performance in Paris with just these 3: I can't remember the year and can't make out familiar faces in the orchestra..

[@ritawing1064]

@@Classicvideofan apparently it is, I just checked.

[@enriquesanchez2001]

Théâtre des Champs-Elysées

[@Classicvideofan]

Bingo :)

[@XPRT10R]

Lei canta in moldavo?

[@massimoturrini9146]

ahahahahahahahahasha in effetti era in suo tallone d'achille l'avere una dizione ORRIBILE ma supportata da una voce davvero di livello

[@yurorega1548]

Arabo...😂😂😂😂😂

[@XPRT10R]

@@massimoturrini9146 solo in acuti. Perché nei centri e ancor più nei gravi, solo aria calda

[@massimoturrini9146]

@@XPRT10R no dai! non essere ingiusto....nei centri era buona, ed anche nei gravi non era cosi malaccio, stiamo parlando di un lirico ok non di un drammatico spinto.....certo non era la tebaldi ma ha fatto cose davvero notevoli

[@YortOK]

Si, in Vero!

[@richardduployen6429]

Thanks. They haven't aged much! However I didn't enjoy "Anna Bolena" at the Royal Opera House very much. Was that later? "la Fille du Régiment" there was splendid. Sutherland's entrance over the hill playing the drum. The colours of the old production (new so-called production boring, modern army khaki).

[@Classicvideofan]

I think Bolena was later, I traveled to London for the occasion and she was in very bad shape ....

[@cadoh8143]

@@Classicvideofan I think, my dear, Bolena was in 1988, at Covent Garden. This Lucrezia, Paris, was in 1989.

[@joaquinus]

Her Covent Grden farewell was Bolena in June 1988

[@BangkokVoiceCoach]

Neither of those singers move me in any way. I have tried but they just leave me cold.

[@Classicvideofan]

I understand, I used to feel this way for years ...

[@robertmcnamara5407]

If you had known her and worked with her you may have a different perspective. She was the product of her husband and her mother - a Voice and that was pretty much it. There are some well known interviews with Zefferelli and others including Richard who make a lot of somewhat disparaging remarks relating to her size. I understand what you say but I have seen some amazing performances that leave one breathless- Lucrezia Borgia being one and Adriana Lecouvrer being another. Krauss I have very little knowledge of so no comment.

[@Wotan123456789]

@@robertmcnamara5407 Are you saying that Sutherland was 'a voice and that was pretty much it'?

[@armandogabba2769]

I don’t understand a word she sings but the voice is ok

[@asdfopera5210]

But why do I? 😊

[@chrisfinlay3274]

yawn

[@armandogabba2769]

@@asdfopera5210 good for you

[@massimoturrini9146]

You are absolutely right, unfortunately the biggest flaw that Sutherland had was her terrible diction.and it's a real shame because his voice was truly remarkable

[@rose-marietrembloy243]

HER Voice

[@clefnoteproductions6695]

Unfortunately, being close in age, they didn't exactly give the mother son picture

[@joaquinus]

Who cares

[@cadoh8143]

This was a Concert performance, right? And even in theatre who cares about that? Sutherland and Kraus were astonishing.

[@Wotan123456789]

Unfortunately, there are trolls like you, who never been to an opera house, and can only make ignorant comments.

[@Classicvideofan]

Please keep civil and polite .;) .. I have seen all sorts of opinions, and VERY diverse ones, in the opera arena during all these years ... every opinion is legitimate even though we do not agree with them ;)

[@Wotan123456789]

@@Classicvideofan There is one thing on not agreeing, there is something different spending your whole day criticising everything for the sake of wanting to 'look clever'', without the capacity of saying anything positive. Don't you agree? I wasn't unpolite at all, if anyone looks up for the definition of troll....

[@massimoturrini9146]

la sutherland l'ho sempre ammirata per la sua vocalità ma purtroppo la sua ORRIBILE dizione me ne impedisce l'ascolto ( l'opera non è un insieme di meri suoni buttati là, LA PAROLA dev'essere al primo posto, prima della musica e tutto il resto, altrimenti ascoltiamo musica sinfonica) KRAUS ......KRAUS ERA IL PARIDISO un tenore vero !

[@Classicvideofan]

Well it is true and notorious that spelling was not her best achievement, but many other immense singers are in the same position ... at some point of vocal genius, I am lowering my expectations about perfect language ... so that I can really appreciate it anyway ... I think there might be different angles for apreciation ... and as a french person, believe me, I could barely apreciate anybody if I was too strict on pronunciation skills (with some exceptions) :)))

[@Classicvideofan]

Generally speaking, I feel more happy focussing on the positive aspect of things instead of searching for the - inevitable - flaws of what is presented to me ... but of course I see your point and respect your point of view ... ;)

[@massimoturrini9146]

@@Classicvideofan well! I too, try to respect all points of view, of course but, you grow, in life, having a pragmatic approach not ideological, I understand that it is convenient to "take refuge" in the subjective but, in life there is above all the "objectivity of things", right? I find that your reasoning, very respectable, inevitably leads to the decadence to which we now witness (in all areas) especially in the lyrical one.....of course, as you say, many are the singers who have had and have the problem that Joan Sutherland had, some even Italian.....but if in the past there were the greatest and most acclaimed singers in the world it is precisely because a primary aspect was not neglected. if the aforementioned singers had sung at the time of Giuseppe Verdi he would have thrown them out of the theatre in 2 seconds because "THE WORD FIRST OF ALL" as Beppino used to say... this is also to remember that the first thing to come is RESPECT for the author... to me, honestly, hearing a singer who emits sounds without understanding, forgive me, but after a while my ear gets tired

[@Classicvideofan]

I speak 4 languages plus 2 of which I have some notions. Nevertheless I am unable to understand the words when I listen to ANY singer with very few exceptions. Unless I know the words from memory or read the libretto while listening. Plus I love Russian opera, Tcheque opera, which are languages I have no clue at all. So, objectively I feel quite unable to judge the "perfect" pronounciation of a singer in 95% of the cases. Verdi was an italian speaking about italian singers singing for italian audiences. Things have changed in every aspects in the operatic scene. As far as I am concerned prononciation is a rarely a show stopper in my apreciation of an opera singer. Unless it is obviously hurting my ears ... I mean maybe I am lucky not to be german or italian. BUt as an example, I adore John Vickers, even though I know some German critics recurrently mentioned his faulty spelling ... In french, I know very very few singers without faulty prononciation (except AlagnaCrespin or Thill Dessay ... and some other french singers) but I know almost no other 'foreign' singer witthout flaws in their prononciation (best are maybe Ramey Schicoff Renée Gedda Kaufmann ...) nevetheless I tink Domingo was a great Don Jose Verret was a great Dalila ... words are one aspect in my apreciation for my native language ... but I feel incompetent to assess definitive jugements for any other language ....

[@sutherlandfan64]

Strano… io la capisco… quasimente tutte le parole.

[@davidstahl5707]

Kraus was, in my opinion, the WORST tenor of the era. He is un listenable, even next to the great Sutherland.

[@Classicvideofan]

All sorts of opinions are equaly legitimate ... I heard so much totally opposed opinions about the same artists that I totally lost any sense of right or wrong ... the way we receive art is so individual ... I listened to Kraus many times in live performances. His timber of voice was not very flattering to say the least, but his singng style technic and projection was remarquable ... and I learned to appreciate it quite a lot ... I believe there might be different reasons why we are touched by opera singers .. some for the utter beauty of the sound (Pavarotti, Ghiaurov, Price, Caballe) ... some for their style/musicianship (Kraus, Bergonzi, Scotto) some for their dramatic power (Rysanek, Scotto, ...) some for thier instrumental qualities/power (Sutherland, Bartoli, Horne ...) but every individual can be more or less touched/interested/sensible by some of these 'angles/aspects' ... and the stage live experience is also quite different than recordings, especially for some singers ... and in my experience, my appreciation of many singers has changed a great deal along with my experiences ... so ... no truth no wrong no right ... art is not about that ... and every experience and feeling is as valuable as any other ... :))

[@xiaomiredmi468]

Это ваша Сазерленд жутко пела широко и не красиво, а Краус это точность,интонация,тембристсть,яркость!!!

[@joshuamcpherson007]

@@Classicvideofan All singers, even the greatest, have their fans and detractors. The color and timbre of the voice isn't within the control of a singer, and people have varying tastes. As a singer, I understand these things, but always find things to appreciate and admire. I can say this about Kraus, after watching him closely in performance, he has taught me a great deal about legato...by example.

[@davidmolina7543]

Not so!😎

[@niconico7281]

Dime alguien mejor que Kraus en Bel Canto?

[@JamesMertins-t5l]

At their age it's very good,pity about the awful Bonygne

[@steinway1901]

Mo Bonygne I believe is terribly unappreciated. I find him very supportive of singers, and an energetic conductor. His recording of the Messiah is very forward looking in use of ornaments. I did encounter an underrehearsed Don Giovanni with Sutherland at the Met on Sirius radio, but everything else has been very good. He has had a wonderful career.

[@massimoturrini9146]

@@steinway1901 I totally agree with you, in many works he is better than much more famous masters

[@YortOK]

Bonynge is one of the last great connoisseurs of the 20th century female voice. He heard Flagstad in all her great roles, he's one of the last people around who can testify to Callas' greatness pre 1955 and he played a very big part in the A list career of Dame Joan. He's also one of the last great ballet conductors