The Right To Roam in ENGLAND - The Most Important Video we have made.

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Paul Whitewick

Paul Whitewick

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@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 6 ай бұрын
Please go visit www.righttoroam.org.uk/ You can buy the book mentioned here: uk.bookshop.org/p/books/wild-.... Massive thanks to Jon Moses for his time.
@alanmcnaughton3628
@alanmcnaughton3628 4 ай бұрын
History is the most mysterious and hidden entity in GOD'S world. We know of the entity called the Antichrist. Almost a millennium ago, the monarchy was signed over to (not roam) but the geographic location of the same word. Look up the lecture from Walter Veith called beamable, sustainable princes. The series is restoring the reformation. You will find how the kingdom was, under great sufferance, signed over to roam (wink wink) Proof of the ownership claim of everything as well as everyone can be found in the R.C.Church "cannon Law" 333.3 Interestingly if you double that number you have the number of the Antichrist.
@hikkespett
@hikkespett 6 ай бұрын
While you wait for laws to change in the UK, I'd recommend visiting Norway and enjoy our beautiful nature, and our right to roam.
@richbuilds_com
@richbuilds_com 6 ай бұрын
It's on my todo list
@MrLeighman
@MrLeighman 6 ай бұрын
Yes, I want to move to Norway. Will they let me live there? I am from England.
@MPbmfm
@MPbmfm 6 ай бұрын
As fare as I've been told you can walk into a private garden in Norway if you got to pass though it
@LoremIpsum1970
@LoremIpsum1970 6 ай бұрын
Erm, only 3% of Norway (1 million hectares) is farmland, in England it's 70% (17.0 million hectares).
@dcanmore
@dcanmore 6 ай бұрын
Scotland has Right to Roam laws, this video is for England only.
@GraemeCampbellMusic
@GraemeCampbellMusic 6 ай бұрын
We have much more right to roam here in Scotland thanks to the Land Reform act. It is underpined with responsibility and care of the environment. I hope England gets the same.
@williemacbeth6455
@williemacbeth6455 6 ай бұрын
we have had the right to roam since at least 1320 declaration of Arbroath etc. The land reform act was a labour con. Why should anyone need permission to roam in their own country . The powers that be are quick enough to conscript you to go and fight for the land that you are not allowed to roam on.
@hetrodoxlysonov-wh9oo
@hetrodoxlysonov-wh9oo 6 ай бұрын
Is it that clear cut, you don't have the right to roam on farmland much of the Land in England is farm land.
@RJSRdg
@RJSRdg 6 ай бұрын
@@hetrodoxlysonov-wh9oo And most of Scotland's farmland is pretty poor quality anyway.
@LoremIpsum1970
@LoremIpsum1970 6 ай бұрын
Having the right, doesn't mean many more will exercise that right as this is being sold to the English population. It would be interesting to see just how many more of the Scottish population now venture into the countryside these days and what actual positive effect that has had on mental health and wellbeing in Scotland. Surely there must have been at least one study done on this!
@diesel92kj1
@diesel92kj1 6 ай бұрын
But then it's terrible, only can walk or ride a bloody bike. We want proper public land for recreational activities like is seen in the rest of the world.
@SuperBartet
@SuperBartet 6 ай бұрын
There is a right to roam in my back garden, I have a public foot path about 4 yards from the bottom of it. But due to a secondary 6' fence that's all they can get to. It's a 130 foot section of the path that follows the river Teme. I was out there 2 days ago with the edge trimmer cutting back the brambles and nettles for the walkers, I must get out there again when we next have a dry day because one of the stiles is a bit wobbly so needs to be repaired.
@BrokenBackMountains
@BrokenBackMountains 6 ай бұрын
Well done 👍
@richbuilds_com
@richbuilds_com 6 ай бұрын
Sounds like you have the perfect spot to set up a snack box! They were one of the highlights of the C2C. And a nice little money earner I bet if the route is popular ;-)
@BrokenBackMountains
@BrokenBackMountains 6 ай бұрын
A wee honesty box like they have on the first part of the West Highland way
@matthewbooth9265
@matthewbooth9265 6 ай бұрын
Good of you to do some maintainence because lets be honest, a lot of the paths are in a horrendous state and are often unusable in winter, or summer for over growth or mud "both applicable to both seasons in the uk lol" and frankly given that we have had 30 plus years of government whinging about how fat we are, you'd think they'd make good paths we'd want to walk down without getting covered in shit, injured...or hell, even be able to park somewhere near to actually access them in the first place.
@SuperBartet
@SuperBartet 6 ай бұрын
@@matthewbooth9265 I've reported other paths in the area that need maintenance on the Worcestershire portal. On it you can see all the reports and dates, and they have not done anything about them for years.
@leod-sigefast
@leod-sigefast 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely! Normans out! The right to roam freely in England and Wales is 1000 years overdue.
@todayonthebench
@todayonthebench 6 ай бұрын
As a Swede I come at this whole "right to roam" with different eyes. However, I also think a lot of people have a rather skewed perspective of the right to roam in Scandinavia. Like yes, in general one do have the right to walk almost anywhere. Exceptions being industrial sites, mines, farmed fields, gardens, military areas, railway tracks, motorways and a fair few more places. The core philosophy is to not destroy. So don't break branches on trees and bushes, don't damage vegetation in general or even the geology, don't destroy property, don't leave garbage behind, don't disturb nature as in wild animals and so forth. The most destructive thing one can do is collect 1 handful of hazelnuts a day along one's journey, and set up a tent for 1 night. In general one isn't allowed to tent within proximity to a house, nor in a garden, or within reasonable visible distance. (A distance that depending on the location can be very very far.) And only set up fires in designated fireplaces, anywhere else is generally not legal. And most importantly, don't damage the geology, so no fires on the exposed bedrock or other rocks in general. (also good to check with the authorities regarding the current wildfire risk, since if it is high enough (as it often is) then you can't really have a fire at all. And yes, we are very particular about or granite geology, smoothly ice polished rock doesn't grow on trees.) One can also pick wild berries and mushrooms, but don't arrive with 10+ friends to make a profit on blueberries or such. Even picking for personal use has its legal limitation. Since whatever one does isn't allowed to meaningfully impact other people's ability to enjoy their right to roam as well. Since everyone is allowed to pick berries, then you can't pick so many that there isn't a meaningful amount left for others to enjoy. This general philosophy is more or less the foundation of Allemansrätten or the Scandinavian right to roam, the foundation is simple, "leave nature as close to undisturbed as you can."
@watchmobiletvnow
@watchmobiletvnow 6 ай бұрын
All you said is true except "but don't arrive with 10+ friends to make a profit on blueberries or such. Even picking for personal use has its legal limitation". This is still an issue and has not been proven in court yet. Every year, particularly in the north of Sweden, berry picking companies fly in 5000-6000 pickers from Thailand to pick berries for profit on others peoples land, this I think should be changed in Sweden. But the angry farmers of England is just strange, why be so mad if someone take a stroll across your land. But as someone mentioned, how to treat the land and "freedom to roam/allemansrätten" is taught from a very early age in Sweden.
@todayonthebench
@todayonthebench 6 ай бұрын
@@watchmobiletvnow It is true that it hasn't really been legally established where the line in the sand is. But the foundation of the law is still that one can't meaningfully impact the environment. Large scale berry picking is debatable how much it meaningfully impacts the environment. Now, if one sweeps through an area picking every single berry in the process, then that obviously meaningfully impacts other people's ability to pick berries in that area. Ie, breaking this law. (one can't argue that "people can go elsewhere." since that is a meaningful impact to have to go somewhere else.) But what if one picks half the berries? There is still half left for other people. Except, if others also picks half, it won't take particularly long before practically all berries are gone. So half is likely still a noticeable impact. If one only picks a few in each square meter, then it likely isn't particularly noticeable that one even were there. It is simply debatable. However, a lot of people use tools to pick berries, especially those doing it as a profession, greatly speeding up the process. Is this acceptable by law? Hand picking berries is fairly slow and easy to argue that it doesn't impact other people's ability to also pick berries. (I can pick a kg of blueberries in around 2-3 hours with this process, more than I personally need.) While anyone using the "proper" tool can completely empty a sizable area in an hour. (Then here is me being annoyed... And reading various articles on the subject makes me ponder if people at large are already not following allemansrätten. Since everyone seems to only talk about how to most efficiently pick every single berry and quickly remove any leafs and stems that got torn along for the ride. Btw, isn't the foundation of the law "inte bryta grenar", surely that also applies to berry bushes? If one needs to filter these out after picking, then one hasn't really followed Allemansrätten to start with in my opinion. And picking all berries is obviously having a meaningful impact for other people so that too isn't in accordance to the law in my opinion.) In the end. I see it as somewhat logical to draw the line at the tool as a simple solution. Want to use a berry picker then you need the landowner's permission to use it. Otherwise pick by hand. And I know a lot of Swedes will consider my conclusion as ridiculously harsh. But read what I have written and ponder, is it okay to pick all the berries? Does it matter if it is you who do it, your friend, neighbor, or someone from Thiland? I say no, picking the majority of the berries is picking too many berries. And stop ripping apart the bushes... (I also think this comment has gotten needlessly long. But apparently berry picking is a highly debatable subject.)
@watchmobiletvnow
@watchmobiletvnow 6 ай бұрын
@@todayonthebench I would have no problem if they picked berries for profit on state owned land, like SCA, Svea Skog, but picking berries for profit (companies hiring 1000s of people) on non state landowner land without consent is kind of weird. This was never a problem before, the industry has grown a lot in a few years, I think it a 2-3 billion SEK industry in the consumer end of things. Before people picked berries for personal use and to sell to get some extra money during summer. Now it an industry. On my 100 hektar almost all blueberries got picked by companies in a few days, kind of sucks. If they asked for consent I would not even mind having pickers on the land but picking "my" berries before me and my family have picked anything is plain wrong. But I think this will change...
@todayonthebench
@todayonthebench 6 ай бұрын
@@watchmobiletvnow I personally have just as much of a problem with industrial scale picking on state owned land. (Mainly since I live nearby such a forest) But the core philosophy of the law is still "No major impact on the environment." and clean picking the forests is a major impact on the environment and therefore isn't legal. Now, the law is hard to enforce in practice. And landowners have a hard time going after the pickers and the companies behind them. (since the law requires one to be more specific than "berry pickers took everything.") But regardless. If you have issues with berry pickers on your land to the point that you and your family can't pick any berries growing on your property, then the ones picking aren't following the law and you do have grounds to take legal action.
@m__r1100
@m__r1100 6 ай бұрын
Exactly. It's not a Right to Roam. In Scotland we have a Right to Responsible Access. It's really bad marketing and 'ask' to keep calling it a Right to Roam
@bruno-id1wh
@bruno-id1wh 6 ай бұрын
I trespass fairly regularly, although a lot of the landowners round here don't mind if you stick to the edges of fields. We never break anything to enter, never damage crops, never disturb livestock and never leave litter. And mostly we're sitting photographing wildlife under a camouflage net so you'd probably never even see us. Once got found by an estate manager while we were in private woods photographing fly agaric mushrooms. He'd seen our cars nearby and thought we might be poachers. Had a lovely chat and he gave me his phone number to let him know when we wanted to come back. It doesn't always have to end in confrontation.
@jm0sesrtr
@jm0sesrtr 6 ай бұрын
Agree. We always tell people to be polite and look for the most positive outcome in any confrontation. Some landowners / estate managers / farmers take an enlightened view and you can have interesting and productive conversations. I've had several thoughtful conversations with gamekeepers once we've gotten over the initial disagreement.
@bruno-id1wh
@bruno-id1wh 6 ай бұрын
@@jm0sesrtr we were parked up on a public road once when a gamekeeper drove up and asked what we were doing. We had every right do be there and didn't need to answer him, but we showed him our camera gear and explained we were photographing the local wildlife. He then told us where we might spot a goshalk, which was awesome, particularly because gamekeepers are often tarred with the brush of being anti bird of prey. 🙂
@joostvanlinge263
@joostvanlinge263 6 ай бұрын
To us from the Netherlands, the UK's public footpaths are one major asset. We wouldn't dream of doing anything but walk along.
@timpea9766
@timpea9766 6 ай бұрын
An unpretentious man who talks a whole load of common sense. How refreshing 🙂
@wout123100
@wout123100 5 ай бұрын
now if we had such a one as president......wont ever happen i am afraid.
@alanmcnaughton3628
@alanmcnaughton3628 4 ай бұрын
You should rejoice ​@wout123100 That exalting one man above another is not something any of us should do. Furthermore it's actually sin to do so. Bible. Romans 2:1,11 [1]Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. [11]For there is no respect of persons with God. Bible. Ephesians 6:9 [9]And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him. Bible. Colossians 3:25 [25]But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons. Bible. James 2:1,8-9 [1]My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. [8]If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: [9]But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are ( reproved see Definition) of the law as transgressors. Merriam-Webster's definition of "reprove": www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reprove
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx 4 ай бұрын
@@wout123100 Makes no difference in the USA who occupies the Oval Office. The imperialist state continues regardless.
@PaulTimlett
@PaulTimlett 6 ай бұрын
Well done Paul. Excellent video which needed making. There’s so much nonsense talked about the right to roam, often by landowners implacably opposed to it. Jon Moses is a great communicator and puts the case in an empathetic and reasoned way. I thought I knew a lot about the CROW Act 2000 but he taught me something today.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 6 ай бұрын
Cheers Paul. And... he said all that with every clip... "one take"
@TheLaughingcrow
@TheLaughingcrow 6 ай бұрын
Meanwhile, in northern Ireland there is basically zero access to the countryside. Since moving here from England Ive come to regard the countryside as something people drive past as they travel from town to town. Visible only from a window.
@DeclanMBrennan
@DeclanMBrennan 6 ай бұрын
I feel your frustration, having moved back to southern Ireland from England myself. That said, the Mourne mountain's loop is very enjoyable.
@JD-yz9kr
@JD-yz9kr 6 ай бұрын
The Ulster Way Footpath.
@mowvu
@mowvu 6 ай бұрын
my friend moved from england to kilkenny. he says he misses the walks and miles of accessible countryside. ireland is all locked up
@irishmiddle
@irishmiddle 6 ай бұрын
That’s a really odd situation in Ireland. By the way the most Northerly point of "Southern Ireland" is further north than Northern Ireland. Please call it Ireland or the Republic of Ireland.
@TheLaughingcrow
@TheLaughingcrow 6 ай бұрын
@@JD-yz9kr Yes I'm aware of this footpath and a few others. Either you've never lived in england and don't understand the sheer number of footpaths in comparison to NI... ....or you live outside NI and don't understand the situation in NI.
@Anarchy4Angels
@Anarchy4Angels 6 ай бұрын
I would argue that an access island creates a implied right of access across surrounding land. As long as you follow the rules about using gates, not causing damage etc I'd say you were fine.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 6 ай бұрын
It's a grey area for sure.
@Jacob-W-5570
@Jacob-W-5570 6 ай бұрын
@@pwhitewick Seemed to be pretty green to me, is my monitor setting wrong? :P
@jimroberts3009
@jimroberts3009 6 ай бұрын
Ho ho ho!
@stephennutkin2477
@stephennutkin2477 6 ай бұрын
Always take an OS map with you where you can validate a PF . Keep dogs on a lead in sensitive areas and where there is live stock, keep calm if a landowner approach’s you . Remember if the police are called the chances are they will not know the law or rights but having a map showing clearly where you are and why you have justification to walk/ access a certain area and show that you haven’t done anything to damage land or wildlife. Unfortunately there are just as many irresponsible members of the public accessing land as there are responsible members of the public.
@wessexdruid7598
@wessexdruid7598 6 ай бұрын
@@stephennutkin2477 The police can only be called for criminal damage - not trespass to land. They won't attend, otherwise.
@weebolddavy
@weebolddavy 29 күн бұрын
I moved to Wales from Scotland with my Welsh wife to look after her mother 22 years ago. As a mad keen photographer, angler and hill walker I felt almost immediately the restrictions of not being free to roam where and when I pleased. Until you've had that freedom which is as natural as breathing, you've never lived. In my 46 years living in Scotland I've rarely had to think twice about crossing a piece of land to get to the perfect place to get that shot. Something I really miss.
@A.R.O.T.A.
@A.R.O.T.A. 6 ай бұрын
If they called it "The right to Responsible Access" rather than "The Right To Roam" I think there would be more farmers willing to go along with it however the term "Responsible Access" would need to be spelled out in the law!
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 6 ай бұрын
Yup, I don't disagree. I think the Roam word has come from 300 years of history though.
@jm0sesrtr
@jm0sesrtr 6 ай бұрын
It's a fair point but right to roam is the colloquial expression we've used for hundreds of years and realistically it's how it gets discussed in the media etc. What we're calling for is, in fact, a right of responsible access - as per Scotland.
@benhall8172
@benhall8172 6 ай бұрын
@@pwhitewick The term "right" is the problem. It's from entirely different (combative) legal system (like USA) which grants absolute legal rights instead of UK's typical legal framework which grants freedom to e.g. trespass conditional on meeting terms that do not violate another's "rights". Nobody has any 'rights' without their respective 'responsibilities'. Nobody has the right to roam regardless of making it legal you immediately take away someone else's rights under false pretences. Like other sports and recreational activities people will have to be licenced, pay access fees and fines etc and access rights legally bought and paid for.
@auser8374
@auser8374 6 ай бұрын
In Scotland it is called that and the rules are very clear. This is still not enough, however, for some visitors who seem to think that they can go wherever they want.
@jobbingactor
@jobbingactor 6 ай бұрын
Large swathes of the British public are unfortunately not responsible enough to leave an area as they found it. This aggravates me deeply because if they were, the landed gentry sat in the house of lords might be more open to change. Litter dropping needs tackling first. Then land access.
@revieboy
@revieboy 5 ай бұрын
Back in the 90s we once camped in some woodlands on the edge of Coniston. There was a large model railway line running in the woods and we fly camped next to a rushing stream. Anyway, the owners son turned up and said to us to go and see his father who lived in a huge house with greyhounds and I remember the massive armchairs. The older gentleman was very amicable and said it was fine to camp there and we were welcome to come again as long as we told him we had arrived. We went back the next year. If you camp, leave no trace
@b0bb0btheb0b
@b0bb0btheb0b 6 ай бұрын
Moving to Scotland was a breath of fresh air in terms of access rights and I frequently feel hemmed in when I visit English countryside. That said, the population pressures are very different. Even in the more densely populated central belt we have significant amounts of countryside locally and huge swathes to explore to our north and south. My main hobby is natural history. Watching wildlife and observing and recording species as I find them. I'm not talking about the showy well-known mammals and birds that tend to draw nature lovers but vascular plants, mosses, insects and other invertebrates. The right to roam allows me to gingerly hop field fences (helps to be lanky) and delve into deans and gullies and other remote corners few ever visit. Often I will find something unusual and unnoticed living in these places. Sometimes what I find turns out to be the most northerly record for it and in that sense expands our knowledge of what that organism can endure (or perhaps how much climate change has affected things). I couldn't do this in England and that's a shame. Designated footpaths are probably enough for most but I'm glad of the right to roam allowing me to truly explore.
@vermeerofdelftscotlandwalk3294
@vermeerofdelftscotlandwalk3294 6 ай бұрын
I'm in Scotland and there are new paths being built where I am. The Crieff - Muthill cycle path is a three mile path that will soon link the two places. It uses a farm track, a new path using the fenced off edge of a field that grows crops, and stretches of a minor road. Together with the Crieff - Comrie path (7 miles) and the Loch Earn Railway Path this will create about 25 miles of an almost car free cycle path, linking Lochearnhead to Muthill. More paths could be made in lots of other places by using the fenced off edges of fields, as the farmer would only lose a small percentage of the total area of each field. All at the right price to the farmer, of course!
@NiallWardrop
@NiallWardrop 5 ай бұрын
Bike racetracks are not paths. All the money is going into converting paths into bike racetracks, none into actual paths so there is a net loss. Who wants to walk with the continual "ting ting" which whatever they say really means "get out of my way". One of the good aspects of the current English legislation is they are not allowed on many paths, make sure any new right to roam doesn't erode this.
@davidberlanny3308
@davidberlanny3308 6 ай бұрын
Hi Paul, What an excellent video, very well presented. Jon made the case for right to roam very well, it really is absurd to have these islands. I note from one of the other comments that each clip was done in one take, he must have been a joy to interview All the best!!
@tomholroyd7519
@tomholroyd7519 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. Rights and Responsibilities are inextricably linked. They are the same concept. Can't have one without the other.
@mattyp80
@mattyp80 6 ай бұрын
A classic example is Salisbury plain and similar where the military play war games constantly but the wildlife in these places thrive!!
@Jason-ke2nj
@Jason-ke2nj 6 ай бұрын
I stealth camp in Bulford, Tidworth and other places...
@nickcaunt1769
@nickcaunt1769 6 ай бұрын
That final point is spot on. It is/was under serious threat from the current Government who want to criminalise simple non intrusion, not threatening trespass.
@jassin1
@jassin1 6 ай бұрын
A very interesting interview loved it, this should be taught in schools for kids to explore and land owners to teach to the schools around the countries about responsibilites. It helps growth and understanding of nature. Some kids do not even know how an apple grows other than it comes from Marks and Sparks. Well done Paul for bringing the Right to roam Video to our attention.
@carbonmalibuLA
@carbonmalibuLA 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant and vital video. Thanks Paul! And thanks to Jon Moses. Everything is just beautifully and clearly explained.
@malcolmrichardson3881
@malcolmrichardson3881 6 ай бұрын
Thank you and Jon for a very well argued and informative video.
@leewiltshire354
@leewiltshire354 6 ай бұрын
Can I roam in your back garden
@Balkongodlaren
@Balkongodlaren 6 ай бұрын
With the right to roam always comes responsibility. Respect for nature and wildlife, farming, forestry and privacy included. It works perfectly well here in Scandinavia and people tend to be more prone to taking care of their environment in general when they're allowed to take part of it.
@LoremIpsum1970
@LoremIpsum1970 6 ай бұрын
Yes, but the English are not the Swedish. Our rural histories are different. Agricultural land in Sweden is just over 7% (2.7 million hectares), in England it's 70% (17.0 million hectares).
@Balkongodlaren
@Balkongodlaren 6 ай бұрын
@@LoremIpsum1970 Yes, and forestry covers 70% of Sweden, that's 22.5 million hectares compared to 0.25 million hectares in England... However, the responsibilities that comes with the right to roam includes that you don't trample around in fields and destroy the crops as well as not destroying the forest, so your comparison is pretty irrelevant.
@LoremIpsum1970
@LoremIpsum1970 6 ай бұрын
@@Balkongodlaren Not irrelevant at all, just how many Swedes spend time in your agricultural areas? I don't think I've ever seen a video showing anyone enjoying the right to roam in Swedish farmland. Is that a destination for many? Or do most go to the islands and forests where there's a much smaller population? Look forward to your answers. One thing you have to realise is we haven't got a generation that's been exposed to the countryside, or taught how to conduct themselves when they are there.
@ashwilliams4959
@ashwilliams4959 6 ай бұрын
Yep because we're not allowed in these places, when we find ourselves there, the rebel is already active. I remember as a teen roaming and we'd cause trouble cause we knew we weren't meant to be there. Maybe treat people with more respect and they'll be more respectful
@markwilkie3677
@markwilkie3677 6 ай бұрын
It also works well here in Scotland.
@Bobrogers99
@Bobrogers99 6 ай бұрын
In my US state (NH) there is a presumed right to pass over unimproved land that is not fenced or legally posted every 300 feet around its perimeter. This has sometimes been called the "inherent right of trespass". My land is just under 50 acres, and although it does have a conservation easement that limits motorized vehicles I have no objection to people walking through my woods or following the brook. It is not posted.
@brettmeikle
@brettmeikle 6 ай бұрын
Good to hear Bob. I moved to Tasmania from Scotland and the biggest issue is the access I lost. It's sunnier though!
@Ludd439
@Ludd439 6 ай бұрын
Typical America, it's all down to your individual rights? So paths can appear and disappear depending on who owns it and their whims? The truth is no one should own land, it's totally mental that we allow it at all.
@brettmeikle
@brettmeikle 6 ай бұрын
@@Ludd439 you rip it violently from the hands of those you exterminate, you keep every bugger off it thereafter. Like you say, totally mental.
@shyft09
@shyft09 6 ай бұрын
As someone who only hears about the US on telly, I'd be worried about accidentally trespassing and getting shot (I'm not black though so maybe I'd be fine in that case). Or perhaps that's just Florida 🤷
@Bobrogers99
@Bobrogers99 6 ай бұрын
@@shyft09 There are far more guns than people in the US. In some states no permit is required to carry one, either openly or concealed. In some states even the mentally unstable can own or purchase a gun. However, if you stay off improved or posted land (obviously trespassing) and avoid unruly gatherings, that would improve the odds to avoid being shot by an armed crazy. Oh, and stay out of the woods during deer hunting season!
@peterweeks2066
@peterweeks2066 6 ай бұрын
As a farmer my objection to a general right to roam in densely populated England is partly due to the disturbance caused to wildlife by dogs running free in particular. I've experienced it on areas I've set aside for wildlife. So pleased to see that tackled in the video. The other thing is that the land I farm is my 'factory' floor, with machinery moving around and cattle grazing. I don't want to have to be watching for random people when I'm working, other than on the already clear and established footpaths. Don't dare sue me when you get injured!
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 6 ай бұрын
Yup, all for points and all covered by Jon.
@MrLeighman
@MrLeighman 6 ай бұрын
No one I know has ever said the "general" right to roam. We are talking about access to centuries old paths and reasonable access. Something some land owners unlawfully restrict.
@MrLeighman
@MrLeighman 6 ай бұрын
Do Farmers ever try to connect with the public? I mean you are human like us, the last time I checked.
@LoremIpsum1970
@LoremIpsum1970 6 ай бұрын
How was the unleashed dog issue "tackled in the video"? As a farmer, can you tell me how farmers are compensated for loss of livestock, such as lambs and sheep? We've had the Country(side) Code since 1951, key message No3 "Keep dogs under proper control ", the Code is not legally enforceable (though parts fall under other laws). Wilful anti-social or illegal behaviour are not covered by the Code - do you think this should be revised, given the current 'wellness' and 'diversity' push to get urban people out into the countryside? Growing up in a village in the 70s we had plenty of instruction and warning over playing with tractors, don't go near the PTO, near silage pits, etc. are all these people going to get the same instruction? [and I didn't even mention wild camping...]
@watcher24601
@watcher24601 6 ай бұрын
I don't own a dog and never intend to, as a keen walker with an ecology degree, it is sad that I can't access nature due to unregulated dog ownership. Also had to clamber over fences in the past to avoid an angry bull protecting his herd in the field with the footpath. The actions of some farmers just prove why alternative routes are essential.
@buckieloon
@buckieloon 6 ай бұрын
Great video Paul, ‘Right to roam’ works fine up here & elsewhere too 😃 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 6 ай бұрын
Yes it does!
@Dan_Gyros
@Dan_Gyros 6 ай бұрын
Right to Roam is one of those things I've always been jealous of Europe for, its such a fantastic idea. Sure its nice having neatly manicured local, state, and national parks, but theres so much more out there to experience
@fullmetaljackalope8408
@fullmetaljackalope8408 6 ай бұрын
I live in Texas so idk how I got recommended this but it is super interesting. Thank you. ❤
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 6 ай бұрын
Welcome!
@gerrimilner9448
@gerrimilner9448 6 ай бұрын
i have seen people extending their gardens over a few foot paths, one was on the most recent map, printed that year, it was an area with many paths, but the one i needed was the one newly fenced. i was very pregnant and i could not manage the extra 6miles to walk around, as i would have missed the bus home, so i climbed the fence and broke it
@sureshot8399
@sureshot8399 3 ай бұрын
What an excellent guest speaker. A contentious issue for sure and one that fully requires both sides to respect the views of the other......a situation sadly becoming rarer these days rather than more common.
@richieixtar5849
@richieixtar5849 6 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation!
@peterwoolliams1283
@peterwoolliams1283 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. Scotland has shown what works, let’s learn from it and come up with a sensible way forward that provides rights, but also expects responsibilities!
@NiallWardrop
@NiallWardrop 5 ай бұрын
Scotland doesn't work, it's all theoretical but has no teeth, landowners by and large do what they like. Recently "rewilding" has resulted in huge areas of land blocked off by high fences with very occasional gates which could be locked at any time.
@GeorgeGeorgeOnly
@GeorgeGeorgeOnly 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, Paul & Rebecca. This is a very important, useful and necessary info-vid. Love your work.
@davehumpleby3440
@davehumpleby3440 6 ай бұрын
What a breath of fresh air this video is, and what a great ambassador for access Jon Moses appears to be. Mutual respect between land owners and access users, and a mutual respect for our countryside. It all makes perfect sense. It just a shame our laws are still medieval in their application and interpretation. Hopefully, with people like Mr Moses heading up the right to roam campaign, common sense will prevail and England will join the modern era of access like Scotland has, along with myriad other countries.
@joseph-ur2ks
@joseph-ur2ks 6 ай бұрын
as a small farm owner i work eally hard to keep crops growing well. they dont grow well when people walk across them. my farm is inbetween 2 villages and has 2 footpath on eather side that do join up in about a mile walk from whee they last joined. people often walk up our field to get from 1 path to another and have dogs running loos at same time. i put polite sighns telling people to plese keep to the foot paths and keep dogs on leads but people have riped them out. the fields are my garden that i take time and spend money on looking after and it is really annoying when people walk across it for no readon. also other farmers can have wiled cattle that they keep in a field away from foot paths but if people go there cos of the ""right to roam" they could let dangerous cattle out or get killed them. farmes alleady get prosecuted for having dangeous cattle where there are footpaths
@Bikeadelic
@Bikeadelic 6 ай бұрын
I know how you feel, we have a track which goes to fields and our back entrance to the property. Farm vehicles are always damaging Hedges, fencing etc. We even caught the farmer cutting down protected trees on our land which is actually illegal. In Essex the farmers are 99% entitled wankers.
@Macbobob
@Macbobob 6 ай бұрын
I'm curious about this bit - "farmes alleady get prosecuted for having dangeous cattle where there are footpaths". Is it correct, do you know of any cases or have sources? I've come across plenty of cattle in my walks, although I don't know if they were considered dangerous cattle. I thought that the walker has to avoid harm to the livestock or crops in the field, not the other way round.
@joseph-ur2ks
@joseph-ur2ks 6 ай бұрын
@@Macbobob i know of farmes getting fined for having bulls in field without a sighn and farmers that have had cows and calves in fields that have chased people in the field potecting thee calves. also farmers been told by councils they have to repair gates and stiles. anothe thing i have come across is farmers been told they cant have stiles and needs kissing gates in to fields but with cattle kissing gates get damaged and pushed ove from cattle rubing against them making it easy for them to escape then the farme getting fined by the council when the cattle escape on to a main road evan tho its because of the kissing gate failing
@stephenholmes1036
@stephenholmes1036 3 ай бұрын
​typical move to the countryside but don't want farming
@stephenholmes1036
@stephenholmes1036 3 ай бұрын
​@@Macbobobno you don't
@lakelady57
@lakelady57 6 ай бұрын
I was watching a Wildlife rehab video, releasing raptors (falcons etc that have been rescued and then rehab are now able to be released back to the wild). A good point was the gentleman who runs this encourages volunteers to assist in the running of the organisation but then when a release is to occur they have a chance to do the actual release under supervision. He encourages the people to be there so that they are now aware and feel involved - thus becoming more emotive about these birds and their welfare.
@jm0sesrtr
@jm0sesrtr 6 ай бұрын
Yes I think this is exactly the right attitude: bring people in, make them part of the solution rather than a "problem" to be managed. That's very much what Wild Service is about.
@icewizzard666
@icewizzard666 6 ай бұрын
Great Vid and Damn right, it shouldn't be confrontational from the off, granted sometimes things are taken advantage of but god we're human, just bloody talk and be responsible and keep your dogs on a lead where needed and show damn respect - too many people, thinking they've got the right to rule everything!! Not in my world you don't!
@davem3894
@davem3894 4 ай бұрын
We used to have 'access to the land' until The Enclosures of Common Land predominantly in the 18th & 19th Centuries. Perhaps we could start with reversing some of that?
@dahemac
@dahemac 6 ай бұрын
At 7:38 and 8:40 you somewhat dodged the question of livestock. In order to be taken seriously, it is important for right-to-roam advocates to actively take a stand that protects the farm animals. Letting a dog loose in a field with sheep or cows, lambs or calfs, or bothering such animals in a way that gets you, or them, injured, should be treated as serious property crimes.
@LoremIpsum1970
@LoremIpsum1970 6 ай бұрын
It's middle-class, eco-loon policy masquerading as a wellness campaign, I was half expecting to see Chris Packham at some point. You need to read what's on their website. We've had the Countr(side) Code since 1951, item 3 of 10 "Keep dogs under proper control", if that hasn't worked in all those years since, I don't believe the assurances given here. You're not going to educate all the masses of people they want in the countryside and a lot of bad things will happen. Last thing you need is even more townies...yes, I was brought up in a country village 🤣
@Oppurtunafish
@Oppurtunafish 6 ай бұрын
Well yeah, obviously. That's why they're called livestock. Why wouldn't they be protected under property laws?
@Oppurtunafish
@Oppurtunafish 6 ай бұрын
Sheep worrying is already considered a criminal offence in the UK
@LoremIpsum1970
@LoremIpsum1970 6 ай бұрын
@@Oppurtunafish you'd have to catch the dog in the act, so, CCTV on every gatepost? This will work out well...🤔👎
@Tom_Quixote
@Tom_Quixote 2 ай бұрын
The problem here is not the right to walk across a field, but dogs. Any right to roam should exclude dogs, as they cause enormous harm to nature, wildlife, and livestock. Try looking up the number of sheep and cows killed by dogs every year.
@seantaylor9758
@seantaylor9758 6 ай бұрын
I don't think it's as easy as just allowing right to roam. I bought my farm 20 years ago and will be still paying for it for many years to come. My experience of the public just using a footpath on my land is regular left with litter, dog excrement and damaged fences and gates left open. Keeping stock and growing has enormous investment and this is where is goes wrong. I have had animals abort by being chased by dogs, another animal eating rubbish left and vets required and gates left open with animals getting onto the road. My farm is my livelihood and business but making it public has enormous consequences. Hay making last year could have ended in tragedy where a couple were picnicking in the field and had air pods on and didn't hear my tractor/grass cutter. We do have organised visits to the farm but people freely entering would be difficult and would also be a security risk where we have extensive machines and valuable products on site. I think the ability to walk the country is very idyllic and I'm sure lots of people will do that with respect. We do use guns to control vermin and that bothers me enormously if a mistake occurred.
@MrLeighman
@MrLeighman 6 ай бұрын
Not all the public act like you say. You can not restrict access because of a few bad apples. Please try not to be too selfish, it is not just about how much profit you make. It is about enjoyment of the land. The last time I checked, most famers had nice big houses and expensive land rovers. You are not getting my sympathy.
@bobroberts6155
@bobroberts6155 6 ай бұрын
As someone fortunate enough to have been brought up in a rural area the idea of leaving gates ajar, breaking fences, damaging crops and letting the dogs run wild (especially in Spring) just never occurs to me.
@fickyrisher
@fickyrisher 6 ай бұрын
I understand your point of view, and I respect what you say, but when you look at just how much of the country is inaccessible to the people it is upsetting and ultimately unhealthy for body and mind, it feels like a wealth inequality, only those that are more affluent get the opportunity to experience nature, it creates anger. I don't have a solution, but I would suggest that a destination is made between working farms and land that is owned by the 8% that simply cut off because their family own it and they don't like peasants.
@kieranb7047
@kieranb7047 6 ай бұрын
​​​@@MrLeighmanit's people like you and your ignorant attitude that makes farmers keep people off the land. Majority of farmers don't own their houses as they are a part of the farm tenancy they pay silly amounts of rent for. It's also the farmers who spend hundreds of hours working the land so it's actually accessible. It only takes 1 bad apple with a dog and a farmer can lose thousands of £ worth of lambs in 10 minutes and any profit for the year. You can't just simply re grow a lamb in 5 minutes. You lose a lamb then that's months of work lost. You don't have to give farmers your sympathy but don't cry and moan when farmers and landowners don't have sympathy for you either when you have nowhere to walk in the countryside because we don't want you and your ignorant city mind. And everyone knows your attitude would be the complete opposite if it was your garden that people are throwing little in, leaving dog poo in and letting their dogs run wild while they attack your family pets and kill them. You would lose your mind.
@janebaker966
@janebaker966 6 ай бұрын
I read a book written by a man who walked the English coastline from somewhere down in Essex up to near Hull. It was a sort spiritual pilgrimage for him. The only part of his coastline walk that was cut off by stout strong wire fences and big signs saying "No entry - Private Property " was a stretch of land in Essex that was the private estate of that great Socialist and Man of the People MP Tony Benn. Our walking guy had to do a long inland journey around it. Definitely No Access there.
@raythirkettle4155
@raythirkettle4155 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Paul and Jon
@billybobbassman
@billybobbassman 6 ай бұрын
Great video Paul, I have to admit you answered some of my questions. Hopefully it will appease some of those who have been less than polite in recent years.
@bearcubdaycare
@bearcubdaycare 6 ай бұрын
I liked the ground nesting birds' eye view.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 6 ай бұрын
AT LAST. Someone noticed.
@johnfletcher9907
@johnfletcher9907 3 ай бұрын
Paul - any chance you can make a video about accessing rivers in Eng and wales pls? Context is that as somebody who lives very close the river Wye on the Welsh border I’m confused by what I can and can’t do. On one hand all the official literature says to only use a small number of set launching points to access. However, logically there are many more points where footpaths either go to, or handrail the river. There are even one or two points where footpaths appear to cross the river in what I presume were historic fords, and then of course there are a handful of points where access land borders the river. On the basis that the river can be got to via a right of way, and the banks of the river below the highest point are crown land (as I understand it), then there is nothing legally preventing me from launching from any point where a footpath meets a river bank. The problem of course is I can’t find this written anywhere and the absence of any confirmation makes me think it could be more nuanced and therefore maybe not legal? What I need is some Paul Whitwick light thrown on this subject to clear it up once and for all!
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 ай бұрын
I think we did around a year ago. Have a look on our "Campaign" playlist. 🙂
@BrokenBackMountains
@BrokenBackMountains 6 ай бұрын
I have liability insurance as a member of the Irish mountaineering club and also have it when in the UK.
@Juniper-d5b
@Juniper-d5b 6 ай бұрын
Remarkably on point and inciteful, thank you 🙏
@DeneF
@DeneF 6 ай бұрын
I live in Edale, Peak District. We had the big infamous mass trespass in the 30's that is considered the moment the public sympathy changed to start supporting the right to roam.
@crazyferret9409
@crazyferret9409 6 ай бұрын
Yep. And the gamekeepers came out in force. Sadly, most of the people who go in private land have no idea about conservation.
@nickcaunt1769
@nickcaunt1769 6 ай бұрын
@@crazyferret9409 Please provide your evidence.
@RaglansElectricBaboon
@RaglansElectricBaboon 6 ай бұрын
Lucky person!
@oldfart6318
@oldfart6318 6 ай бұрын
An excellent explanation of the problems and their solutions.
@richbuilds_com
@richbuilds_com 6 ай бұрын
What a fantastic communicator for the right to roam. Long may he continue. Get out there and trespass!
@fugoogle9757
@fugoogle9757 6 ай бұрын
can i come n trespass accross ur garden..? or is it only country lands that one can trespass on. there shd be a 'right to roam' accross the gardens in a city/town... fairs fair n all...
@DraftingandCrafting
@DraftingandCrafting 6 ай бұрын
@@fugoogle9757 I live in a mid terrace, my neighbours and anyone they invite over are allowed across my garden, as are any delivery people.
@fugoogle9757
@fugoogle9757 6 ай бұрын
@@DraftingandCrafting i live in the country n my land is private.. i don't want strangers wandering over my land or peering in my windows or looking in my sheds! i'm all for wild camping, but theres plenty of commanage about without the need t be traipsing accross my land. when people do, i tell them theyve no right of way and point them t my gate, all very politely mind, cos manners cost nothing. i bet if you found some strangers camping in ur back garden you'd likely call the fuzz...
@thecardboardsword
@thecardboardsword 6 ай бұрын
@@fugoogle9757 life is much better when you aren't scared of your own shadow
@oliverghunter
@oliverghunter 6 ай бұрын
Great film, thanks Paul! Jon Moses for PM!!! Or at least official advisor to/enforcer of County Rights of Way Officers...
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 6 ай бұрын
All of those things!!
@mvmhughes
@mvmhughes 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video, Paul.
@li2uo
@li2uo 6 ай бұрын
Great vid, as is all of your content. I've found problems even with the green lines on OS, most recently the Dog Rose Ramble in west London where it goes over West London Golf Centre.
@Strykehjerne
@Strykehjerne 6 ай бұрын
Just a thought... The entire premise of the Norwegian right to roam system is kind of based on the acknowledgement that using your right entails accepting responsibility... You get the right once you can show personal understanding of the responsibilities. . So you also accept the possibility of punishment such as a fine or the likes. All these freedoms are basically the ability to accept responsibility for your actions..
@christopher9727
@christopher9727 6 ай бұрын
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@imogenradford9869
@imogenradford9869 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video, counters all the concerns really well and explains why we need the Right to Roam responsibly. One small inaccuracy from the presenter - trespass is not illegal, and you are not breaking the law to get to an Access Island or if you step off the path. In fact trespass is a civil matter, not illegal, not a matter for the police.
@sianwarwick633
@sianwarwick633 6 ай бұрын
I am going to refer to this video when people have questions, occurrences within, and want to talk about: Right to Roam
@shanewallace1126
@shanewallace1126 6 ай бұрын
Coherent, ta. Ease up on the three camera cuts eh? Cloudy and raining here, very similar sky today.🙃
@mrhis2ry
@mrhis2ry 6 ай бұрын
Things are very different in the US. Private property ownership trumps everything thing.
@tomholroyd7519
@tomholroyd7519 6 ай бұрын
your Freudian slip Trumps your argument
@brettmeikle
@brettmeikle 6 ай бұрын
@mrhis2ry And do you prefer it that way? Or would a Scottish/Scandinavian model be preferable to you?
@mrhis2ry
@mrhis2ry 6 ай бұрын
@@brettmeikle That is a very good question. In the US we don't have all the great old Roman roads or numerous canals or other historic routes to hike on. We do have some a few old rail lines to hike and bike on as well as a few canals, but most reverted back to private ownership. But it would be nice to have access to the historic sites we do that are on private property.
@grimaffiliations3671
@grimaffiliations3671 6 ай бұрын
And yet those same land owners will call it theft when you ask them to pay taxes in return for exclusive use of that land
@CristiNeagu
@CristiNeagu 6 ай бұрын
Even so, the US has a lot more public land than the UK. Only 8% of the UK's surface is publicly accessible, while in the US that figure is 28%. Granted, a lot of it is in the Rockies, but that still counts.
@simonf8370
@simonf8370 6 ай бұрын
Great vidéo Paul and big thanks to Jon for explaining his viewpoint so well. I'm not an avid walker or rambler, but I do not see the problem of responsible people being bal eto walk where the land isn't really being used. And as a dog owner, that's where us humans probably need to take some responsibility so that, as a collective, we call all exist on this rock whizzing round the Sun.
@TheStoneTapeSimulacrum
@TheStoneTapeSimulacrum 6 ай бұрын
Brilliant interview
@chrismadden5563
@chrismadden5563 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for that video. Really good.
@Jack-xi8ji
@Jack-xi8ji 6 ай бұрын
I think that dogs (or more accurately, dog owners) are a big problem. I'm been hiking the length and breath of the South Downs for decades, but when walking along the SDW you know when you're coming close to a car park because of the increase in dog poo left on the path (despite the bins). Sheep-worrying is also a big issue. Also littering, and increasingly the lighting of fires. People are very often, I'm very sad to say, destructive, unthinking, and selfish. For example, damage was caused to land at the Devil's Dyke by an illegal rave that will take years and millions of pounds to recover. There's a lot that can be done to vastly improve Britain's natural environment: less intensive farming; rewilding; stopping sewage entering rivers; and so on - but a 'right to roam', in my opinion, would be another backward step. No matter how well intentioned, you just can't trust people to be responsible. I would say that the rights of flora and fauna to exist trump any perceived rights of people to disturb their environments. After all, there are already 140,000 miles of footpaths in the UK - that's more than five-and-a-half times the length of the equator. If you have a specific want or need to go somewhere out of bounds please just politely talk to the landowner and ask permission. You'll be surprised how understanding they can be. And before anyone asks; I am not a land owner myself, or associated with anyone who is. I'm just someone who is genuinely worried about nature, and what we collectively are doing to it.
@JaneAustenAteMyCat
@JaneAustenAteMyCat 6 ай бұрын
Rambling, with respect for nature, is one thing. Being wilfully negligent or destructive (including leaving dogs mess lying around) is quite another.
@robinbennett3531
@robinbennett3531 6 ай бұрын
stop pushing ravers onto nature reserves
@RotGoblin
@RotGoblin 6 ай бұрын
Dog ownership needs to change, full stop. But the right to roam works here in Scotland. Last year a local ranger told us they went out with an army of litter pickers to a frequented wild camping spot around a loch. They spent the entire day at it, and what did they find? A single, one, plastic bag that had blown on to the central island in the loch that they needed a kayak to retrieve. Here in Scotland, the right to roam is respected, and because of that, the majority of people respect the land in kind. The problem here is tourists not respecting the land, probably because they come from regions that don't educate on how to respect it, and irresponsible dog owners. Lets change dog ownership laws.
@michaelmcnally1242
@michaelmcnally1242 6 ай бұрын
This is fantastic, thank you.
@StephenDavenport-zqz2ub
@StephenDavenport-zqz2ub 6 ай бұрын
An interesting video and it would be interesting to get the other side of the debate on roaming rights from the NFU. What does the NFU think about the fox hunting ban. The countryside is where we grow our food and food security comes first in my view.
@daveswhite90
@daveswhite90 6 ай бұрын
Curious as what fox hunting, which is an archaic barbaric, cruel, and illegal activity, has to do with rights of way? It’s also worth noting that we grow less and less of our own food and import more and more, although food and biosecurity and animal welfare are key issues. We’ve all met the ‘get off my land’ brigade, enclosures act when they stole away common land from the common man.
@StephenDavenport-zqz2ub
@StephenDavenport-zqz2ub 6 ай бұрын
@@daveswhite90 Do farmers need to keep fox numbers down and is fox hunting the way to do it? I would think that fox hunting must damage hedges and growing crops. It would be interesting to hear what the NFU has to say about all of this.
@bigantplowright5711
@bigantplowright5711 6 ай бұрын
Been roaming for 60 years, not stopping now.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 6 ай бұрын
👍
@richardwebb5317
@richardwebb5317 6 ай бұрын
+1 when visiting England or Wales.
@Sim0nTrains
@Sim0nTrains 6 ай бұрын
Nice interview and notice Rebecca making a little appearance
@stevebrighton42
@stevebrighton42 6 ай бұрын
Brilliant, thanks Paul and Jon.
@jackstedham7127
@jackstedham7127 6 ай бұрын
A lot of landowners seem to think that someone out for a nice walk is somehow going to steal their land off them. Hence the endlsss private property, trespassers will be prosecuted etc signs. This is probably because they're aware on some level that the only reason they have a huge tract of land in the first place is that somewhere back in time someone really did steal it. Real justice would be stealing it all back, a mere right to roam is pretty mild by comparison. But those with more than their share will always take violent exception to even a 1% shift back towards fairness.
@alphatoomegabeyondthematri5166
@alphatoomegabeyondthematri5166 6 ай бұрын
Perhaps we could start a land owners members group to allow more access. I have 5 acres of land without any public right of way. I was on my own land 1 night only to have a council enforcement officer pop around the next day to say I cannot live on the land. 28 days a year is impossible to look after land and farm it with a organic forest system or maintain proper paths. I wonder if we could all work together to mutually support all parties. I feel the whole system needs to change. It's taken me 3 years now to try to find a house in the area to finally be able to manage my land. Cross fingers I might just be at the point of buying a house.
@HighWealder
@HighWealder 6 ай бұрын
Time to finally lift the Norman yoke.
@Corialtavi
@Corialtavi 6 ай бұрын
And the enclosure act, so much public land stolen.
@LoremIpsum1970
@LoremIpsum1970 6 ай бұрын
@@Corialtavi Dream on. We don't need common land as much anymore since a lot of us moved left the countryside, unless you have some livestock needing to graze. Any change to the law regarding land ownership will affect us plebs as well.
@Corialtavi
@Corialtavi 6 ай бұрын
@@LoremIpsum1970 I'd love some geese 🙂
@gh8447
@gh8447 6 ай бұрын
Oh puh-leeze. You sound like a Marxist.
@Andy_ATB
@Andy_ATB 6 ай бұрын
Yes, the Normans have a lot to answer for.......In fact, I detest the celebration of them by many historians.
@antonylawrence7266
@antonylawrence7266 6 ай бұрын
I had a visit to Scotland, could not believe the lack of fences.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 6 ай бұрын
Good innit
@653j521
@653j521 15 күн бұрын
@@pwhitewick So how do you handle security for the landowner's property and the landowner, or cases of livestock epidemic?
@michaelmalone9062
@michaelmalone9062 6 ай бұрын
When I was 10 years old in Ohio USA, I accidentally trespassed on an old lady's property. She detained me with her shotgun and said she was going to call the police. I talked her out of it and promised I'd never be in her property again. There is hardly any property, other than state and federal land where one can walk. The dog issue is important. I'm tired of stepping on dog manure in my garden. As people become less responsible, it's a big issue. Thanks for an interesting video.
@autisticdrone.
@autisticdrone. 6 ай бұрын
Luckily in England, no old Granny will be able to threaten anyone with a shotgun. I wonder if she had actually shot you, could she have claimed self defence? 🇬🇧🇺🇸👍
@GuyChapman
@GuyChapman 6 ай бұрын
@@autisticdrone.you’re wrong. Shotguns are common in all four countries of the United Kingdom. I’ve been threatened with a shotgun in Wales.
@DeclanMBrennan
@DeclanMBrennan 6 ай бұрын
I find it amazing that in the land of the free, there is so little freedom when it comes to access and the large majority of the vast US is completely barred.
@CristiNeagu
@CristiNeagu 6 ай бұрын
The US has a lot more public accessible land than people realize.
@CristiNeagu
@CristiNeagu 6 ай бұрын
@@autisticdrone. It's relatively easy to get a shotgun licence in the UK, especially as a farmer.
@bluedeskfan2754
@bluedeskfan2754 5 ай бұрын
I heard once that the origin of 'right to roam' in England was for Christians to get to Church in the days before cars. Which sounds good to me. I'm always happy to include a Church visit in any country walk I do.
@GrahamWalters
@GrahamWalters 6 ай бұрын
Don't we have the Countryside Code to tell people how to behave when out walking? Is this reluctance for the right to roam across all land owners, or is it just a few ? A great video btw, highlighting the issues in the difference in Scottish law and English law.
@martinmarsola6477
@martinmarsola6477 6 ай бұрын
An intellectual conversation with the land owner. A statement after a view from the lawyers, should drawn by the owners, lawyers, and the acceptance of the probable land entered. A fee probably would have to be made to the owners. Hello to Rebecca, and glad to see again, Paul. Enjoy the week ahead, and hopefully see you on the next. Cheers Paul! 🇬🇧🙏🏻👍🇺🇸
@philiptaylor7902
@philiptaylor7902 6 ай бұрын
Timely video Paul. Any party proposing a Scottish style right to roam in England and Wales would get my vote.
@palmertrees
@palmertrees 6 ай бұрын
Brilliant Insightful video
@TheSadButMadLad
@TheSadButMadLad 6 ай бұрын
3:35 It's not just 1% of the population owning more than 50% of the land. There are businesses and organisations that own a huge amount of land too.
@shirleylynch7529
@shirleylynch7529 6 ай бұрын
Excellent interview. Clearly problem in England. Hopefully things change for better very soon.
@eb4661
@eb4661 6 ай бұрын
The UK have cultured plastering signs. The architectural damage is 100% with regards to buildings of public access - a total mess. The people even relates to any sign as laws. (In other forums I would argue why the UK is a Police State.) However, it is very refreshing witnessing Jon Moses in the battlefields of the rights of the people. As a Norwegian, hearing him argue of the more than a thousand years old Nordic rules of freedoms is refreshing. (Your battle is lost when seeing a sign in the fields stating “dis da private”.)
@eartheclipse9623
@eartheclipse9623 Ай бұрын
I'm in Scotland where we do have the right to roam & I take that responsibility seriously, i.e. leave no trace. I am also a dog owner of a dog with prey drive (he's been trained both with positive reinforcement and e-collar - which was trained with Jamie Penrith) - no a leash is not reliable because it can be pulled out of your hand! the dog needs to avoid wanting to chase that animal in the first place. No, not all dogs need an e-collar, my last dog did not, however it is still my responsibility as an owner. I know my dog very well, I can tell when he's found a scent and is tracking it, so I can call him off it before he find whatever it is. It would be incredibly useful to know when & where ground nesting birds are, so we can be aware of them and keep him closer though. Thankfully my dog sticks largely to a path, however, not everywhere is pathed so to speak i.e. moorland or the hills and glens, which can also mean leash usage is dangerous in some places i.e. if the dog jumps down a step and pulls you over, even by accident, it can cause a whole host of accident recover issues, also we should have a way to carry our dogs off the hills if they get injured such as a fido lift. Accident wise its unreasonable to expect others to constantly look out for where you put yourself and to mitigate risk for you, look where you are going, watch where you put your feet and be aware of your surrounding and look at the weather prior, wearing appropriate gear, basic first aid etc.
@Madonsteamrailways
@Madonsteamrailways 6 ай бұрын
Another thing is that I went to boarding school just outside Wincanton, Somerset, so I saw fox hunting in the distance.
@jimferry6539
@jimferry6539 6 ай бұрын
It’s like this channel was made for me lol that’s my two main interests, the right the roam and it’s history and Roman roads. There’s a great smallish channel on here called Malc Cowle, he also wrote the book “Trespassers! A tribute to Benny Rothman and all the fighters for the freedom to roam” Malc may have passed now but he worked on this topic more than anyone else I know
@maverickdisco4036
@maverickdisco4036 6 ай бұрын
This is so so right. Write to your MP’s, let’s get our access back. The book is pretty good , half way through it.
@LoremIpsum1970
@LoremIpsum1970 6 ай бұрын
Get our access back to what exactly? Restore the commons? Have you got iivestock that needs grazing? Crops to grow?
@watcher24601
@watcher24601 6 ай бұрын
​@@LoremIpsum1970that's also a very good argument for 'why do people need to keep a dog or cat' if not hunting, pest control, herding lifestock or looking for drugs?
@LoremIpsum1970
@LoremIpsum1970 6 ай бұрын
@@watcher24601 the latter is true for many places, as in many countries people don't keep them as pets. In fact it would be interesting to know just how long it's been since we thought that way ourselves. Maybe blame the anomaly that are the middle classes...
@janTasita
@janTasita 6 ай бұрын
It's obviously very useful to hear Jon's answer to these questions, but it's worth noting that the majority of people who say things like "everyone wants the right to roam until people want to roam in your garden" are not uninformed people who just don't understand what is being proposed, but instead are trolls engaging in bad faith whose "concerns" are only important to them for as long as they help uphold the status quo.
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree. This is why we wanted Jon on to explain
@paulkench4812
@paulkench4812 6 ай бұрын
Ive been on 2 walks to access land with a right to roam group , had no problem to get to them but the group on the last walk got chased by quads and shotguns firing in the air ,and drive all over the nest areas , , crazy
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 6 ай бұрын
Yup. Not the first I've heard of it.
@davie941
@davie941 6 ай бұрын
hello again Paul, another cool interesting video, really well done and thank you 😊
@dareekie2074
@dareekie2074 6 ай бұрын
Every non landowner likes the idea of right to roam but in my experience hardly anyone wants to go off the established paths unless lost. Off path walking is tough because of bogs, streams and undergrowth. Striding freely over the land is a lovely egalitarian dream but in practice very few will want to do it.
@jamesthomas4841
@jamesthomas4841 6 ай бұрын
....which is why there is no reason not to permit it.
@jm0sesrtr
@jm0sesrtr 6 ай бұрын
If that's the case, why worry about it? I agree that many people use paths in practice. But default rights of access provide a statutory basis which helps support the path network: it removes the incentive to 'disappear' or obstruct paths, because they become a means of access management, it encourages the creation of new paths, it helps make the path network more connected, and it frees people to go off-path where it's appropriate and they have their own reasons for doing so. It's also worth noting that access reform is also about things like e.g. the ability to swim in reservoirs and rivers, or stopping very wealthy landowners removing people's rights to wild camp on Dartmoor, or aristocrats to take away a whole town's most important green space at a whim...
@dareekie2074
@dareekie2074 6 ай бұрын
Perhaps the time, effort and money would be better spent protecting, improving and extending the existing path network, and creating new routes. This would benefit far more people than the tiny number who would want to struggle through brambles, waist high heather and gorse.
@kieranb7047
@kieranb7047 6 ай бұрын
​@@jamesthomas4841spread of diseases like foot and mouth is a very good reason. Along with every soft city dweller who twists their ankle and wants to take the landowner to court because they haven't smoothed the ground for them.
@jamesthomas4841
@jamesthomas4841 6 ай бұрын
@kieranb7047 Curently Foot and Mouth outbreaks leads to the temporay closure of rights of way the same would apply to any extended right of access. As for the risk of being sued for a twisted ankle I suggest you watch the video a bit more carefully 😉
@al_humphreys
@al_humphreys 6 ай бұрын
A really great summary
@stuartbridger5177
@stuartbridger5177 6 ай бұрын
The problem with "responsible access" is the lack of respect by many people using existing rights of way. Great example is on the Thames Path in my part of Oxfordshire. Local farmer is doing a great job of restoring traditional watermeadows viac reintroducing wild flowers, encouraging ground nesting birds, etc. Every summer he is battling litter, disposable bbq's burning holes in the turf, out of control dogs, poo bags, etc. I am commenting as a keen walker with a farming background so I can see both sides of the argument. I don't see generic right to roam as a solution. We have a massive mileage of PROW, more than enough for everyone to enjoy. The issue of open access islands should be resolvable via local negotiation.
@saxon-mt5by
@saxon-mt5by 6 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more. When the general public shows respect for those areas that they can legally access, then maybe 'right to roam' can be considered. But as of now the disrespect shown via litter, uncontrolled dogs and children, etc cannot support any campaign to widen the general public's access to our countryside.
@lykkeligal
@lykkeligal 6 ай бұрын
Well said
@jm0sesrtr
@jm0sesrtr 6 ай бұрын
Well, that's not responsible access by definition. The question is how you create a wider culture of responsibility: giving people a sense of belonging to their environment is crucial for that. And if we have a more legitimate system that's not founded on arbitrary exclusion we can more readily introduce exclusion where it's justified.
@TheFarmingEngineerUK
@TheFarmingEngineerUK 6 ай бұрын
This video would benefit from additional viewpoints rather than only from right to roam. Also, it should be recognised that (aside from the islands and dead end paths), England & Wales have a path network which is far more widespread than found in most other countries and almost always guarantees access despite farming and development, whereas if we moved to right to roam, those paths could be legitimately blocked for agricultural and industrial purposes. Reform of the CROW Act - ensuring routes to open access islands, making it easier to rationalise and create new paths would be more beneficial. It would keep the historic nature of the path network and ensure access through agricultural areas. Moving to a right to roam system would potentially block off large swathes of lowland England which have a high percentage of arable use. I am also unconvinced that Councils would continue to fund footpath bridges and path clearance if there is a right to roam.
@georgeyoung8887
@georgeyoung8887 6 ай бұрын
The fact people in England even contest this sort of basic right makes me so glad I live in Scotland with the rights we have here.
@bigbadthesailor5173
@bigbadthesailor5173 6 ай бұрын
The releif - having moved from England - of just having to keep that basic question in my mind: "am I taking the piss here?", rather than continuously worrying, "am I sucessfully following a designated footpath or am I an accidental criminal?". There have been walks where we've got into a spot of bother - mainly due to the lack of marking of footpaths on the OS - where we've simply been able to 'do something reasonable' to get to our destination. Fandabidozi!
@georgeyoung8887
@georgeyoung8887 6 ай бұрын
The only downside I’ve found is that the fact that you don’t have to rely on designated rights of way can make navigation trickier - especially with OS maps, because many of the routes on the ground aren’t mapped as official paths.
@jonasfermefors
@jonasfermefors 6 ай бұрын
In Sweden we are taught about the right to roam in school and it's something that most people do respect. I have seen people (usually people who haven't been much outside cities) who misbehave but they are rare and most people do feel a responsibility for nature, so they are usually told off if anyone sees them.
@kingloser4198
@kingloser4198 6 ай бұрын
6:10 stream water's nice and clean. Now that's responsible...
@ArcAudios77
@ArcAudios77 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Paul, appreciated.
@TheFunkadelicFan
@TheFunkadelicFan 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Please get Jon back on the show, sometime, he's great.
@alexleeman8277
@alexleeman8277 6 ай бұрын
Great video 🎬
@adifferentwayuk3335
@adifferentwayuk3335 6 ай бұрын
I own a tiny piece of land by a river. Never minded people using it. But last month someone came on picked all the bluebells and stole my kayak . Don't want to fence it but........
@Beanboiwolf
@Beanboiwolf 6 ай бұрын
Yeah no this is the thing is that it's unfair to expect everyone to be completely fine with this tbh
@EStewart573
@EStewart573 6 ай бұрын
Mhm, the scottish Land Reform Act 2003 explicitly only allows you to roam as long as you follow its rules of respect. Disrupting the environment isn't permitted. The asshole who tore up all your bluebells would still be committing a crime under right to roam.
@adifferentwayuk3335
@adifferentwayuk3335 6 ай бұрын
@EStewart573 wish I could pick and choose who came by but..... I won't fence it off as its a lovely little secret place I dreamed about finding when I had young children.
@petdoiseauR.H.
@petdoiseauR.H. 6 ай бұрын
react @ 1.02: ( that view at the beginning :O :O) And Jon M. : "(...) pretty much a full time Access campaigner now" Ahaha Good one Moses. xD Looking forward to learn and discover a lot in this already visibly precious share of your time, great work! thank you! 💚 @6.02: +/- "(..) Bring back the human to Nature so it can (re?) become Its Protector. (..)" LOVE. 💚
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