Pwnage Ultra Custom Symm Teardown and Kailh 8.0 Mod!!

Today we will be tearing down the Pwnage Ultra Custom Symm that I looked at last week. In addition we will be talking out the *Omron 50m* from this mouse and replacing them with Kailh GM 8.0 microswitches. This is my first soldering endeavor give me some helpful advice for soldering in the future down in the comments below! Thanks for watching dont forget to like and subscribe!
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[@kafkalul]

Just got mine today and was curious if someone had uploaded a teardown, thinking about swapping in red 4.0s. Thanks for the video

[@joer1502]

Thanks for the support, it was actually a lot of fun to do it, highly recommend

[@juanpablotan3889]

Thanks! Never thought that a teardown for this existed. Can't wait to do this on a Rakk Talan!

[@volteriaa3672]

thanks for this ^~^ i plan on modding mine pretty soon. good to see someone make a video about this!!

[@joer1502]

Awesome, keep me updated

[@ooharloo]

Thanks for this video! I hope the ergo is similar to this teardown. My mouse 2 switch broke so it’s a good time to swap mouse 1 & 2 switches to some Kailh 8.0 as well. And a good time to learn soldering too.

[@joer1502]

Yeah no problem! I would think the ergo is probably somewhat similar

[@Azi_Oce]

Next time you de-solder make sure to add some fresh solder to the pins before attempting; also the iron tip should make contact with the pad & the pin, hard to achieve with a conical tip.

[@karminipal4700]

A good idea is to use flux on the solder so the board can cool down after desoldering and soldering. if you have a solder cleaning sponge, you should wipe the excess solder off the tip so you can have a perfect clean operation on the switches. Other than that this was a nice kalih 5.0 to 8.0 mod. I am getting my xenic titan gx air soon so I can mod off the scroll wheel with another one and mod out both the Omron switches, I have planned to get pwnage but due to restocking, I canceled the order. if you ever want to do a scroll wheel mod the size for a silicon rubber band is 9 - 10 (19.75mm)

[@joer1502]

Thanks for the info! Good luck with your titan project!

[@karminipal4700]

@@joer1502 Thanks, be sure to update you on it, if you like I can talk to you on twitter. How are corepads on the Pwnage? feel nice even though the size doesn't fit all the way for the mouse.

[@joer1502]

@@karminipal4700 i havent actually used them, at the time of making this video lethalgaminggear had sent me the ergo ones on accident, so i just used the stock thicker skates, which I find quite nice, yeah you can hit me up on twitter if you want to

[@karminipal4700]

Nice, Yeah When I do mod the stuff out I am going to need backup feets, Should I go for the corepads even though they are small for the size or should I get like those PUC Ergo 4 piece sized feet on the mouse?

[@joer1502]

@@karminipal4700 i have heard that even though the corepads are small there is no scratching

[@TlBubba]

Some soldering tips make sure your soldering iron is "wet" meaning it has extra solder it should look shiny and smooth. then ditch the fancy solder applicator it's much easier to simply bend the solder into a straight line. When you are ready to solder just place the soldering iron on the pin and pad and push the solder into the iron touching the pad at the same time stop pushing solder when you get a nice cone shape around the pin. It is best to try it out and get some practice in.

[@joer1502]

Thanks for the tips

[@DDD-ed6if]

thanks a lot for the video! now i can change my Daxa air II switch into ttc gold :)

[@themouselady275]

whoa Joe i never knew you did a video like this!

[@joer1502]

Yeah one of my first videos 🧐

[@sijapong]

very nice

[@joer1502]

Thanks

[@primarkbargainbin9847]

oh wow this mouse is literally just rexus daxa air

[@xisackx]

My dpi is changing on its own and I'm not sure if its software or a bad switch, do you know exactly what dimension micro switch it takes for the dpi button? Is it just a long pin switch?

[@cliche_AF]

The updated symm 1 gen 2 comes 8.0 now doesn't it ?

[@jannclaudebinoya]

Did you remove the heavy magnets on the battery

[@joer1502]

I didn’t notice any magnets, maybe I’ll have to take another look

[@karminipal4700]

theres no heavy magnets on the battery, there's a Xenics GX wired that contains weights to add grams to the mouse but other than that there's no magnets in/on the battery

[@prithvib8662]

Nice vid! Is it possible to take out the side mouse buttons or are they soldered in? I'd really like to take take out the side buttons and paint them black (I have the white version of the mouse)

[@joer1502]

I believe the side buttons are removable by some screws

[@sheikhtashdeedahmed2740]

what side buttons switches are used in this mouse?

[@Idea789]

I first tried with the ergo shape one, and the pcb conductor wire came out together with the switch pin when i pull it🙃 dang, i hope the pcb of this ambi shape get better

[@joer1502]

Yeah I had no isses

[@eldrie-31]

may I ask something?, can I remove the battery so I can reduce the weight? will it work with wired?

[@joer1502]

Im unsure, battery is fairly easy to remove so I suppose you could give it a try

[@eldrie-31]

@@joer1502 I already try it and it worked :D anyway thanks for the video tho, It really help me a lot when disassembly it

[@christopherbeltran5020]

go to ents youtube channel and one of his videos he shows an extremely easy solder method i did and it literally takes 10 seconds to pull out a switch

[@joer1502]

Will do, could use the help lol

[@jetgadz]

Do u think it can be modded to be more lightweight? Like tearing down some internals or removing some of it?

[@joer1502]

Yeah probably, i did not check specifically, but if you notice the battery has like a little stand in the mouse, you could probably remove that and save a few grams if you could figure uot somewhere to stick the battery. There really isn’t that much internally that you coule get rid of though, maybe drilling holes in the bottom.

[@SenpaiRov]

@@joer1502 rrplacing the battery with a smaller capacity 3.7v would do the trick, it could go as low as 60g I think.

[@BigAirr.]

did you have to get new feet?

[@joer1502]

Yes

[@FranMarquezDj]

that switch doesn't double click you? In my superlight it started to do it from the first moment I installed them, however I changed them back to the gm 4.0 and without double-click problems now :)

[@joer1502]

Not for me, might have just been some defective switches

[@FranMarquezDj]

@@joer1502 Maybe, but just in case I won't buy that switch anymore. Comparing it to the gm 4.0 there is not much difference in the force of action, at least in my perception. Also 4.0 are more famous.

[@joer1502]

They dont feel too much different, but they sound very different IMO, 4.0 are somewhat louder, i do think the 4.0 are a bit more tactile

[@FranMarquezDj]

@@joer1502 Yes, on that I totally agree with you. I really do not care about the sound, I pay more attention to how they feel when clicking, and above all not to double click

[@joer1502]

Yeah, double click is probably very frustrating

[@tomwoo1161]

Does your pwnage symm only charge to 90%? When I fully charge mine the software shows 100% but soon as I unplug the charging cable the software shows the charge drops to 90% within a few secs.

[@joer1502]

Yeah I did notice it like stuck to 90 for a while, but after just letting it charge for longer mine went up to 100

[@tomwoo1161]

@@joer1502 Ah that worked, I left it charging all night and it now shows 100%. Sweet, thanks man!

[@joer1502]

@@tomwoo1161 yeah im thinking it may just be a software glitch, mahbe has issues communicating with the battery

[@meraphanida]

do you think this would work on the ergo wireless version?

[@joer1502]

Absolutely, taking it apart might be slightly different, but the soldering should be essentially the same

[@meraphanida]

@@joer1502 thank you for the help!

[@joer1502]

No problem

[@JumpscareSpen]

Can pwnage side shell mod into titan gx air wireless

[@joer1502]

Not sure, I think they are 1:1 clones so maybe

[@theoagung276]

Is it just me the solder is kinda hard to melt

[@theoagung276]

I mean on these mouse , my g305 is melt easy

[@joer1502]

It was a bit challenging

[@EnnTomi1]

do you know if there is a way to turn the PCB into a hot-swappable one? i have so many different switch i want to test, but i dont want to solder. (bad solder job can damage the pcb, and one of my ZA12 pcb's m1 has one of its contact broke due to solder too many times xD). also takes too much time as i would like to test them back to back

[@joer1502]

There is a video on escaldi gaming’s channel on how to use mill-max sockets to turn a g pro wireless into a hotswap, I’d imagine the process is similar there

[@EnnTomi1]

www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/hyft9j/hotswap_millmax_modded_my_mouse/ i saw this

[@EnnTomi1]

@@joer1502 thanks !

[@EnnTomi1]

@@joer1502 does it work on mice pcb?

[@joer1502]

@@EnnTomi1 it should if done correctly.