The best (and worst) show you haven't seen

[@Pyrocynical]

The response to this video has been amazing thank you all so much. Definitely going to focus on more long form content in the future. I've seen loads of people that actually want to watch the show themselves without my commentary. The show is notoriously hard to get hold of without major cuts and the aspect ratio being messed with. The easiest way is to get season 1 and 2 on amazon video make sure to only click the ones with the channel 4 watermark and blue banner. The britbox version has been heavily censored. This only works for people in the UK. Even a VPN won't work as it'll decline your payment if you try to buy it overseas. For everyone else it's a bit more tricky. It is on amazon but it's been heavily edited, with scenes cut and the aspect ratio messed with so everything looks more zoomed in, going against the entire point of the cinematography. If you have a VPN you can set your region to the UK and then search to buy the channel 4 version of Utopia from the KZbin store. I bought it myself to test it and the aspect ratio is the same and the scenes are uncut. It's the best version you can get outside of the UK legally. The Utopia subreddit has a post explaining how to watch it untampered if you don't live in the UK. I think they're going to be more active again since this video's been released. I'll update this post if I get any more information. www.reddit.com/r/utopiatv/comments/j1efu8/how_to_watch_the_original_show_uncut/ TL;DR UK > US + ratio

[@Ru5tyBlade]

LOVE YOU PYRO Also haha first reply i need to sleep for school but im gonna finish this

[@n5washere236]

Sup

[@charliebanks4135]

Awesome work man.

[@cameraman404]

GREAT VIDEO BRO👌🏾

[@thewhitepicketfence9136]

This vid is godlike, thanks man.

[@hchappy125]

I told my sister that I was watching a show called Utopia and she told me she had seen it. I said I was on season 2 and she didn’t know there was one. Then figured out she had watched the US version. Heartbreaking. Had to put her down.

[@andrepfennig9534]

Keeping the Gene Pool clean, well done.

[@HavingCrumpets]

@@andrepfennig9534 a step closer to Utopia

[@davidnighten5553]

You're doing gods work...

[@pyrofan1178]

There will be no Trace

[@darkfiretomoo]

Man, im sorry for your sister. But you did the right thing, Solider.

[@KilianExperience]

Because of the length you kinda have to watch the whole thing because you gotta know what possesses a man to dedicate his life to 12 episodes of tv

[@deletedaccount6388]

and that is the killian experience

[@El_Jongus]

Killian you are my favorite dark souls lore youtuber

[@RedRakoons]

Make a video where you repeat the word "Nuts" 176 times.

[@Annoyingorangesex]

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[@omarferdous1671]

yeah when he said that his next essay was gonna be 8 hours long I knew I had to watch the entire show the show first which I'm glad I did I just finished season 1 and it did not dissapoint a 10/10 and a great cliffhanger

[@AraiiarA]

The american remake is very deep. US Wilson's lost eye is the opposite one from UK Wilson, this symbolizes how the British drive on the opposite side of the road compared to America.

[@darknezz5000]

Godamn you, made me laugh British jokes are my weakness

[@ZombieMiezz]

Deeper than his eye socket

[@mint6269]

based pfp!

[@joppiejoo77]

Bravo Vince!!

[@NotRllyFunni]

I mean tbf, that bit of analogy probably would’ve needed an entire room full of writers and philosophers because it would require more than 10 brain cells to create any subtlety or hidden meaning.

[@ad-di5qr]

Something I realized about why it's a Chinese sign for "rabbit" in particular. One of the more popular myths about the rabbit in China is related to the moon goddess Chang'e. The rabbit is portrayed within the moon, brewing the elixir of immortality (preservation, human survival). As to how it got there, well, one time during the moon festival celebration all the animals were giving something to the humans and the rabbit, having nothing to offer but its own delicious flesh, threw itself into the fire so the others could eat it. For that, they were placed in the moon, in plain sight, yet always disconnected. Again, being Mr Rabbit won't get you recognition, or fame, and you won't be noted in history - it's just sacrifice after sacrifice, dedicating your entire being to the cause and letting others feed off of it. One more way the network sees itself as martyrs, to bring salvation to the world through the ultimate sacrifice, which they view as noble.

[@JohnMoran]

That's interesting! Thank you.

[@musicvogeladeline]

holy shit touhou

[@ixy9809]

Utopia lore is sick

[@SpellboundSpectre]

@@musicvogeladelinechina is thousands of years older than touhou

[@Geckota7]

@@SpellboundSpectre nuh uh

[@garfeldi8466]

The torture scene with wilson was way worse in the original script. Wilson was strapped down and forced to watch League Of Legends, but this was too violent for British TV, and had been forced to change to something more tame.

[@rat_god883]

Wise words garfeldi

[@misterrrage]

No he has forced to watch the US remake of utopia

[@skunksprayorlicorice7922]

He had to scroll through Twitter politics

[@ovahlord1451]

a fate worse then death

[@Sylvestial]

“OH GOD NOT THE ESPORTS PLEASE” -Wilson Wilson

[@Gromek999]

I did it, I finished the entire video. And somehow i was glued to the screen the entire time. Well fucking done.

[@kenneldbofungus]

Same here

[@dumpsta-divrr365]

Hello mr mordhau guy I hope you're doing well :)

[@floaty7373]

5 hours and 40 min in and im so sad that it ended on a cliffhanger lol

[@antontocool3929]

Same here

[@TheViciousCreation]

fucking same. I started yesterday evening when he just posted it and had to finish it today. Man, I even dreamt about this show without even watching it myself.

[@Huggbees]

I can't wait to add this show to my backlog and then take 8 months to finally watch it.

[@YHK_YT]

Are you going to add the official talk show too

[@Username_ladiesman217]

Same

[@27FUUJIN]

Love u too

[@miraqen7801]

SPHERE GUY

[@SimplesRugs]

Andrew what are you doing here

[@austinwertz7442]

With the UK network, I would be afraid of them breaking into my house I broad daylight, killing me, and making it look like I was suicidal the whole time, leaving without giving it a 2nd thought. With the US network, I’d be afraid of them ratioing me on Twitter.

[@echolight6272]

i feel like getting rationed is almost worse than getting killed tbh

[@sued_]

@@echolight6272 People who don't have Twitter: -What the Fuck is a ratio?

[@theblaze5530]

​@@sued_ the word ratio has bled into almost every other social media. Most people who don't like Twitter's environment tend to avoid it though.

[@jackwilliams7915]

wilson is definitely the most interesting character. how can someone go from a conspiracist hiding in his dads attic, erasing himself from the internet to leading the conspiracy and cutting himself like that, fully sacrificing himself to the cause and becoming a merciless killer?? and then make it COMPLETELY REASONABLE AND UNDERSTANDABLE???? such an interesting development, wish we got to see it in a 3rd season

[@StrikeWarlock]

What's neat is that he is arguably the best possible heir for Mr. Rabbit, since he basically has no identity on the Internet, he essentially doesn't exist.

[@dragondog1017]

@@StrikeWarlock so true! Plus anyone who probably knew him in person is either dead or captured by him. He very much became Mr. Rabbit in the end and I love his character. I wish we got to see how much worse he would have gotten compared to Milner

[@waifupatter4193]

The third season is just real life mate...

[@belisarius6949]

Wilson is scary because he puts his beliefs over his own life and the life of others.

[@Ludwig_Perpenhente]

@@dragondog1017 the only people that know he exists is his dad, and the main group, his dead is dead in the gutter and the group is still under The Network Custody. So yeah, unless Wilson has friends (which I think he doesn't considering he lives in an attic).

[@Balarke]

i think this might be the longest youtube video i have actually ever watched lol

[@iLLntent]

balarke u finna make me act up😍

[@AverageAlobamaEnjoyer]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJ6plWRonbF2q80 this is mine

[@mrp8171]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJiVimiordGaY68&ab_channel=Whitelight This one is pretty close

[@fbi8309]

You haven’t watched what da dog doin 10 hour loop? You are missing out!

[@sawkmicoc4287]

Yeah its wierd man, me from a year ago wouldnt bother

[@KayyVEVO]

"I wanted to let you know you were loved, cuz I wasn't..." God my fucking heart can't take much more of Arby and his loveless life.

[@pootispiker2866]

RB

[@lamp7587]

Petrie

[@darke1032]

john

[@KayyVEVO]

You're all wankers.

[@Will_left]

RB: refrigerator broke :(

[@Seth-lr9lk]

Something really cool about the show I noticed on my like 5th or 6th watch through, Donaldson does actually do the correct "nice" thing when Becky tries to humanize with him. We see from Mark Carval later that he was faking the thoraxon and really just selling her opioids, so when she asked him to just give her the pills because it was the right person thing to do, he does actually show her his own messed up kindness by throwing the opioids into the river

[@meowertwelve]

Woooooooww. I didn't think of that

[@Nofixdahdress]

Another dumb thing about the US remake: Jessica's tattoos. Every tattoo shop I've ever gone to requires some form of ID. Something Jessica would be waaaaaay to paranoid to have. Not to mention how they would make her much more recognizable, not something you'd want to have if you're trying to stay under the radar of a global conspiracy. Plus, fucking expensive. That's potentially several hundred dollars worth of ink on a woman who, theoretically, has never worked a job, is constantly on the move, and who is so on edge that she forgoes sex in case she has to make a break for it. But we're supposed to believe that she willingly walked into a business (possibly with CCTV,) showed a government issued ID, made an appointment, paid hundreds of dollars from her limited funds, and sat in a chair for several hours to get some leaves on her arm and calf?

[@unus_3882]

Not to mention the constant upkeep you have to do after getting a tattoo to ensure it doesn’t get infected. I doubt she’d have the time to ensure that she puts some antiseptic cream on her arm or calf either. And that’s just a whole other risk for her because it could very easily cos major problems for her if it got infected.

[@aniyilator]

Yes exactly, if they wanted to give her character some physical feature like that then stick and poke tattoos would make much more sense, but like you're saying that would put her at a huge risk for getting sick from infections. All in all story's shit -69/10

[@ReznorQuake]

I'm only an hour into this video so maybe it's brought up in the video but wouldn't tattoos also be a way for people to identify her? Something she absolutely does not want

[@naheemquattlebaum2267]

They gave her tattoos cuz oOoOoOo edgy!

[@Wealiko10]

@@unus_3882 Memento Mori

[@indeimaus]

I'm so fucking happy you managed to get this out without copyright strikes or claims, I'll be watching this over the next few days thank you for the content father

[@Short_Shots]

Yet…

[@Riddlywiddly]

My fav spooktober KZbinr let's go

[@acethemain7776]

download the video just in case

[@faggis5982]

God youre late to this

[@isabellajemica]

Anyone know why there's no ad in this video

[@mariolongford2336]

damn, Pyro really pushing that 10 minutes mark

[@AWildDito]

smh he's really a sellout for that ad revenue

[@Lucid-og8rz]

lol

[@silverreaps6803]

8 minutes now

[@silverreaps6803]

@@ItsRileyYT wasn't that funny relax

[@Nicklovesmw2]

@@ItsRileyYT relax kid go cry

[@fishyboi2174]

I just realised that there is a slight parallel between mythological god, Odin and Wilson. The parallel being that Odin sacrificed his eye for all knowledge while Wilson had his eye taken for knowledge of who truly leads the world

[@cawsomeaolin]

damn

[@DashingSteel]

He had to lose his eye to gain the knowledge that the only way to save humanity is to sterilize it.

[@explicit6400]

Great observation

[@Jabroney]

Me: “I don’t really watch tv, I don’t have the attention span or the free time.” Also me: *watches this entire video”

[@JeremyBX]

Yeah I wonder what the psychology behind that is. Why is it that I can’t get myself to watch critically acclaimed animes like cowboy beepbop yet I will gladly watch Vinesauce’s full lets play on some bootleg PS1 hack

[@EvillNooB]

in one go?

[@synth77]

@@JeremyBX My theory is that: 1. We enjoy learning information because it is useful to our survival, 2. The more information in more compact format the better (hence why TV is more entertaining than books as you are getting audio and visual information), 3. Someone commenting on a show is giving an extra level of information and removes the negative aspects (e.g. tension caused by suspense, disgust at violence)

[@taco3v24]

took me 3 days to watch it. But i did... and it was worth every god damn second

[@lemmeborrowadollar7834]

Cowboy Bepop is great. Watch it when you get around to it. My only complaint is that I need more of it :(

[@sluly3950]

Jessica’s US version really bothers me after seeing the UK version. Beyond just making her less likeable or understandable the performance really misses the mark. In the UK version the actor did an amazing job making her feel like an out of place outcast, she was cold, unpredictable and had this strange alien quality to her speech and movements. Then the US version comes along and just feels like an edgy cool girl that gets added to every other show. Absolutely fantastic.

[@breadbag9487]

I agree, not to mention they are depicted as not like normal, quirky, cool and edgy and it ruins their writing it's disappointing how common this poor writing is in most female American characters to make them "badass". (Hopefully I wrote this whole thing right)

[@hankisgoat]

ikr the american version annoyed me so much

[@joshgroban5291]

Agreed, even if you considered the UK unlikeable, everything she did, she did for a reason and it made sense

[@MeanBeanComedy]

That's American TV for "young adults" in general

[@MeanBeanComedy]

​@@breadbag9487 It's exactly right. It's like it's written by women that have never met another woman.

[@YodaOnABender]

“The best (and worst) show” Me: that doesn’t make sense “There’s a US remake” Me: oh ok now it makes sense

[@riip777]

we suck at tv

[@YodaOnABender]

@@hoplul and the UK version was the best because it knew when to fucking end

[@outsomnia]

saving funniest parts in case i come back trying to find it 1)3:00:49 2)3:04:54 3)4:00:45 4)4:04:26

[@MamadNobari]

I thought he meant the themes of the show and how dark it was until I saw the timestamps for the US versions lol.

[@CbOt7]

Us Americans, ruining art at every turn.

[@staidanom]

...THIS was CANCELLED???? I am so fucking disappointed.

[@cawsomeaolin]

wel fucking come

[@GE0attack]

Well they did same thing with derk gentlys holistic agency it had 2 one of the best seasons but bbc cancelled it low show rating but when it got on Netflix people wanted 3rd season but couldn't since more than 4 years past

[@another7674]

Honestly the season 2 ending was satisfying. Bleak but satisfying. Imo fit the tone of the show really well. Was brutal tho imma need to watch only wholesome shows for the next two weeks to detox

[@BarioIDL]

@@cawsomeaolin any minute now

[@xavierjustice8796]

8 seasons of big mouth, keep that in mind. Edit: OMG 10 LIKES!!!!

[@Tisisrealnow]

Just realized that Mr. Rabbit may be an ironic name as Rabbits are known to, well, reproduce a lot

[@boomrangyt]

Dang never thought of dat

[@matthewbaang8749]

That's actually pretty cool. What does the US remake do? Make literal rabbits the carriers of the virus. I swear they killed off anyone in the set that proposed to be subtle in the show

[@BabyDingo]

Alice in Wonderland imagery

[@Crystal_Dylan]

@@matthewbaang8749 really? fuck those guys rabbits are good pets. also I think it's more that the general audience of America hates subtlety and slower moments. i say this as someone who has lived my entire life in America we don't usually like subtle things in our media and shows that make you think will generally be viewed much less than the "ha ha funny laugh track sitcom" or "humans are trash people let's give these horrible people fame and money for no fucking reason" I apologize on behalf of most americans honestly show writers like Vince Gillam are more an accident than the norm.

[@matthewbaang8749]

@@Crystal_Dylan yeah, if you haven't seen that part of that video, basically the group went to burn down a travelling zoo that was suspicously always there whenever the virus spread in a certain location. they gunned all animals, mostly rabbits to prevent the spread, took one with them for no reason, and made possibly the dumbest plot point in the show, by (spoilers) Jessica being bit by the infected rabbit after sticking her own finger in the cage. i don't know why they chose Jessica Hyde, the only professional in the group to do this. Also, you don't really need to apologize for Americans lacking subtlety, it ain't your fault. The US remake has a lot of faults, even without the hindsight of the UK version there are obviously terrible moments. the not-so-subtle rabbit infection was just one of them

[@ETD]

I feel like I really should pay for this.

[@SiamHossain7]

Patreon bro EDIT: I stand corrected, I forgot Pyro didn't have a Patreon, buy his merch instead!!

[@jamesdaniels6696]

also the full show is legally free on youtube, but I do get you're talking about this video, which is a masterpiece

[@ETD]

@@SiamHossain7 bet! this guy is dope. i just discovered him yesterday lol (edit: i signed up for patreon but it wasn’t him apparently? if there’s a proper link to donate post in the thread)

[@mdviperx]

Buy merch

[@garfieldsspaghetti]

@@ETD bro, i suggested you checking out all his reviews on games and films and stuff along the like. he has got a knack for this, and it's a miracle how he has shrugged off his commentary past.

[@OSM_RL]

I just finished the whole video. I seriously have an immense amount of respect for Pyro as a content creator, like I really hope everyone watching understands the genuine talent needed to be able to do what Pyro has managed to do with this video. I think this might be one of the greatest videos I've ever watched and that's me being 100% genuine. You've smashed it man

[@VskutkuTrigen]

I watch it for third time now :D its great really.... The details on start and the fact that he talks about characters as he did not even know outcome yet...

[@devonesq.7533]

im watching it for the second time starting now, dont worry, i understand its value

[@bosch5303]

Sadly, the American ver is so bad, pyro barely make it interesting for me. But I would rewatch the first 5h non stop if I could

[@Mynemislev]

hello osm

[@facto222]

Skill and brains* not talent

[@morscovium8881]

I am so happy I watched this video. About halfway through, I paused, watch all of utopia seasons 1 and 2, then came back. it truly is the best show I have ever watched, and the soundtrack is amazing

[@ImNotaCasualty]

Pyro is gonna break all records of watch time

[@Pryncypalkii]

true true

[@IOSIRIS]

Hopefully, anyways I’ll take the honors of saying “sup checkmark”

[@orang9134]

@@IOSIRIS They have a name you know

[@BetaBreaking]

Can't believe it's at 2.8 mil and it's for a 7 hour fucking video. I'd love to know the statistics on this vid. Great video essay as always by pyro

[@IOSIRIS]

@@orang9134 I’m just acting like people who go around and only comment “sup checkmark “ just to jest them

[@captainconfused2631]

One thing I noticed about Pietre is that you never see him blink onscreen (maybe I missed a few but as far as I’m aware he doesn’t) showing he’s simply unfazed by literally anything that happens to him. It’s such a small, insignificant detail that adds so much to his character.

[@Crow_Mauler_]

5:36:58

[@Griwhoolda]

One *notable* time when he blinks is Season 2, Episode 2, and it's *hilarious.* The "reunion" of Lee and Arby. They're seated at the table (quinoa, ha ha), and Lee says, "Nothing's over. They're starting up again. And I know things. Example: I know they want *you*"... (Arby blinks twice here)... "for a job." That whole Arby and Lee reunion scene is my favorite scene in the entire series. Brillance from start to finish.

[@fexizp4272]

@@Griwhoolda I guess this kinda shows how through the show he slowly but surely becomes more and more human and "normal"

[@captainconfused2631]

@@Crow_Mauler_ ok but I feel like that could’ve worked as maybe a rebirth for him, with him coming back to life and finally coming to grips with his past, and therefore blinking now too, but we never got a season 3 so who knows?

[@Seetor]

3:37:22

[@eyesan881]

The color palette in the UK version feels so distinct. The deeply saturated colors just gives you the feels and kind of misleading in good way where it seems childish, yet actually violent. It also helps me focus on the characters better for some reason

[@Unreachableparadise]

It makes them stand out doesnt it?

[@meowcow21]

Yes that was specifically said in this video

[@ylondes9927]

Thanks for quoting pyrocynical 👍

[@bobbydonut3260]

I wish pyro would’ve pointed that out.

[@icesoup9836]

Yeah cool nice one quoting something Pyrocynical said in the video.

[@spookidraw2436]

Uk: so this is a thriller dark, creepy, violent mistery about conspiracy and the government, with events based on real life consequences and philosophical horror! Us:... oh so like, a marvel movie, with quirky characters and plot-device villains! UK: n-no, there are no good and bad guys just people who help you and people who do- Us: yeah! like a Marvel movie! with love interest! and shinenigans!

[@Starcatplays]

This is not the petscop 2 we asked for but the one we needed

[@Username_ladiesman217]

Yes

[@splitreality5702]

@ThyPeasantSlayer its already confirmed he WONT do petscop 2 because he feels like it wont live up to the original petscop video

[@darkflightdreamer1698]

Hello Mr. Starcat

[@brandonmorel2658]

So Petscop 2?

[@tinmanakapetscop2guy85]

Petscop 2

[@AleksWorkshop]

Feeling bad for the people that were subjected to watching the amazon US version of the show rn

[@z-chan946]

Literally everybody is watching this video what the hell

[@nilsnamens]

im actually quite glad that i found the US version.. i thought the idea was great but the execution sucked so i searched for videos explaining how shit the US show actually is and i found a comparison video and fell in love instantly with the UK version

[@Dark_Blazin_Wizard]

The original is on Amazon too you just have to have two working neurons to find it

[@voyes]

omg i was trying to watch it and clicked on the US version instead of the UK one for an episode and a half I was so confused why Pyro made an 8 hour video on it

[@dailyderealization120]

Why on earth did they even make a US remake of it? I’ve only seen one or two examples where the US remake was even nearly as good as or better than the original and it’s not like it was 40+ years old or in a foreign language (which I could understand slightly more). The only thing this one accomplished was making me appreciate the original more by contrast.

[@CDTVProductions]

it’s incredible to make a video nearly 8 hours long that millions of people click on to watch, good shit man

[@bootleg_24]

yeah cdtv!

[@goatham92]

Do a drain reaction cdtv

[@mosaicmosaic431]

W been watching you and pyro since 2016

[@Shotgunkjell]

the hacks that make dogshit retrospectives could learn a thing or two here

[@revthadon8868]

Hey I recognize that guy!

[@Castrels]

Darkwood prequel goes crazy

[@sniperplum47i8]

Idk how he does it but the pacing is actually impeccable. I can’t imagine watching a one hour review on anything but there’s something pyrocynical does that makes a 7 3/4 hour review not only bearable but enjoyable

[@theyescapedtheweightofdarkness]

I feel like I was getting a little bored when the American show came around, mostly because it's abysmal and it's not really pyro's fault

[@nawf5ta469]

@@theyescapedtheweightofdarkness yea same that was my stopping point, I just picked it back up today. But I enjoyed the whole 7 hours

[@shahidkarim9910]

@@theyescapedtheweightofdarkness yes I agree after the UK version and the plot twists and everything coming together like making a amazing dish starting with a Mizan plus I just got bored and I’m rewatching also another great thing is that in the UK version it’s one of those rare shows where everything is done well,filmatogrophy,composition,writing and theratical scenery

[@jazzcats4563]

Bang on

[@diaco3798]

the american version was so lame and infuriating i stopped watching the video after pyro explained a bit of it. the original was a dark and depressing show full of plot twists and great characters the american version was like every teenager quirky adventure show. also making like 40% of the white characters black seems like forced wokeness

[@willythetravellingmerchant8562]

Pyro is like every english teacher ever: "Her outfit can be interprated as her personality" "him not being able to close the door shows he has no control over his life" I'm acctually amazed by pyro noticing these little details, it's like art

[@lindylou538]

I hope he does more videos like this as long as he does a couple short videos every few months

[@michaelb4415]

Because movies are art

[@dracopug]

@@michaelb4415 Not a movie

[@FreeTheRats_]

@@michaelb4415 not all movies are art. And this is a series.

[@yoshidaaimi34]

Pyro said that he probably will not do another video as long as this again, he enjoyed the process but it's way too long and it's what kept him from making videos due to his mindset, he made this video in 3 months and that's constant working. Do I hope he makes a video like this again? Fuck yeah, will it happen? We'll never know

[@alexjones4679]

I'm just going to say it. I know you said it would be 8 hours long. And I don't think prior knowledge can quite adequately prepare someone for a video showing up in their subscriptions with 7:41:00 in the bloody timeslot. Incredible man. You've REALLY Mastered the art of stretching a video past the 10 minute point huh? I respect it.

[@nagasimp1855]

curiously, every single franchise that isnt born in USA and gets an USA redo to "appeal better to the public" becomes into an unsufrible mess which only redeeming quality comes from the "comentary" youtubers doing reactions or the "critics" youtubers roasting it to dust

[@supermutantsam1160]

The fact that the US version unironically has the Rabbit say, “We did it! We created a monster!” legitimately sounds like self-parody. Like, holy shit, you might as well have one of the fucking Harvest members tap their fingers together like Mr. Burns and say, “Ah yes, our evil plan is coming together!” That’s so incompetently unsubtle

[@clickbaitrater8945]

Thank you from someone who was sure they had seen this show but was completely confused by the "different cast" lol.

[@bandawin18]

As a US resident, I'm sorry my country fucks up good British shows(especially the inbetweeners)

[@bushiido8494]

that's American tv in a nut shell, everything is spoon fed in a condescending manner like the average person is a dribbling mouth breather.

[@bandawin18]

@@bushiido8494 it's quite insulting too, it's how basically every big budget show or movie is made here though

[@clickbaitrater8945]

@@bandawin18 As an Aussie, this is actually something I've noticed. When you see a good American version of a tv show, you can almost 100% guarantee that you will get a less bloated, more witty, less over-explained version from the Brits.

[@kardmaster77]

This whole video was a masterpiece, but god the American breakdown was hard to watch after being completely enthralled on the UK side for 5 hours.. and the outro montage was an absolute incredible section.

[@Icosiheptagon]

Couldnt help but cringe the whole time, There was no need for a remake.

[@Ehh.....]

@@Icosiheptagon I mostly agree but part of me still thinks about the timeline where David Fincher did work on the reboot. At the bare minimum it wouldnt have been even close to the trashfire we got.

[@pykor9386]

@@Icosiheptagon Americans can't understand British, that's why there was a remake

[@a.b.3455]

I watched the first 5 hours almost in one sitting, but when the american version was discussed I took breaks constantly just not wanting to see any more of...that.

[@martha6563]

Nice profile pic

[@TheMikeGodwin]

The last two hours or so where he's going over the remake fill me with such an intense rage lmao. I've never even heard of Utopia, the original or remake, until watching this and I was legit getting mad at every wrong decision they made creatively for that show lol

[@odnettv4719]

@LowTierFallout especially american ones 🤮

[@oreo5239]

It was so painful watching the last two hours, the us version was so bad

[@leann4265]

So many times Hollywood has taken non-American originals and ruined them

[@heckingbamboozled8097]

@@leann4265 Oldboy... Good god

[@surelylune]

one thing im disappointed that this show doesnt actually (seemingly) interrogate is ecofascism - a very niche environmentalist belief that can perfectly describe the beliefs the network was founded on. ecofascism purely believes that overpopulation is, in and of itself, the issue, and fails to acknowledge global and systemic issues of distribution and wealth. you could say that the network has just enough influence to do what they do in the show, but not enough to actually rework global distribution systems or implement clean energy globally - however, milner has direct access to hundreds of billions in wealth, as shown by the scene where she explains V day to jeff. so a discussion of what kind of person would choose to sterilise a world instead of improving it would be nice. and i do think its more in milners character to choose the former - but a diagetic investigation of that fact would be really engaging, and could maybe open the series up to seeing what kinds of people would CHOOSE the former over the latter as well.

[@andomapletoft6509]

Why would they criticise their current real world process of far left ecofascism 😂 that's like letting the system/network to investigate itself naivety abounds all around me I swear.

[@xXxXcrosbykidXxXx]

The show isn't meant to spoonfeed people sociopolitical philosophies or motives, it's simply showcasing them at an extravagant scale, and letting the viewer come to conclusions about the underlying personalities and philosophies of the different characters. It's literally spoken out loud multiple times within the show "there are no sides, only people who help you, and people who don't". The water is much murkier than political labels. This is the biggest problem with the American adaptation, and most current day hollywood productions in general. They just can't help but treat viewers like thoughtless sheeple, incapable of thinking critically and reading between the lines. They spoonfeed, over explain, and exposition dump every bit of information to make sure even a mosquito could follow along the plot. It's just horrible writing, all with real modern political and racial narratives pumped in and manipulating/altering the intended moral, because if you don't have your ethnic minority and LGBTQ+ and neoliberal socialist virtues front and centre in your project, Hollywood just won't fund or respect you or your work.

[@exotic1405]

I see what you mean, but I don't think that's necessary. Either suspension of belief or people can think about it themselves, the show already leads into that conversation topic

[@cashewABCD]

There is a lot left to explore. Shame UK version stopped. The layers of command and control, pulling the strings. Wilson's arc is fantastic. Refreshing to see long view humanity on the screen.

[@pootispiker2866]

​@@andomapletoft6509Oooooh, the left is a boogeyman because you have zero sense of nuance or critical thinking! Oooooh!

[@SuperWiiBros08]

finally got done watching this whole video, this is legit one of the most amazing tv series, I really wish and also hope that somehow Pyro's video gets a 3rd season to ever happen

[@Sockren]

im honestly surprised you have enough time for 8 hours of video edit: i forgot that people just have more time

[@-insecure]

@@Sockren well it’s been out for 11 days, just watch like 30-45 mins a day

[@Magentamaker]

@@-insecure true I’ve been watching this for one hour throughout the week and this video is really good

[@Kumorini]

@@-insecure The fact that a normal human being couldn't figure that out on their own worries me

[@5regimientodelineadecorona579]

Just done? Km already rewatching it!

[@SonicHaXD]

Congratz on finally getting this out, hopefully it won't get copyrighted the bagillionth time XD

[@morrishellgrn]

*inserting generic reply here*

[@frostyjeff]

Just save it

[@TheFleshRots]

Pyro

[@milktea6676]

Ok

[@Ghostifiez]

@@TheFleshRots u like men also?

[@Terminusberminus320]

my mom actually watched the american remake without knowing it was a remake, when i asked her if she wanted to watch utopia with me she said "that show sucked" so i made her sit down and watch the first episode of the british version and she got hooked, broke my heart to tell her that it got canceled

[@StripeyZebraBoy]

Absolutely amazing to see the extraordinary amount of engagement on this, a 7.5 hour video, so long after the original series was cancelled one season too early. Could this provide a glimmer of hope for a S3 of the UK version?!

[@Max-qo4ye]

Utopia: The Pyro Cut 5/5 Is consistently engaging for a staggering 7 hours, 41 minutes and 9 seconds. Has that impressive length packed with valuable resource, knowledge and humour Explains everything with ease Has clean, smooth, humorous and great editing throughout, better than most youtubers that upload 10 minute videos. Pyro put a lot of effort into this. I appreciate it 🙏 Rotten Tomatoes or IMDB would never. Pyro is a King 👑

[@spimbles]

nah id say it ends at the 5:37:52 mark. thats when the good show ends, and thats where i stopped because of it

[@nonelast4152]

@@spimbles well if you didn't watch the rest of it, how do you know it's not as good? Pyro tearing into shit is just good as him praising it, tho, I do agree that the story itself is better in the first half bc the topic itself is better. But the quality remains

[@Max-qo4ye]

@@nonelast4152 I agree 100% I didn't watch this video for utopia, I watched for Pyro.

[@flaregamer64]

"Insanely long essays that took months to make" are becoming my favourite kind of KZbin video.

[@dbv6282]

Indeed, some of the best vids out therr

[@sneezebiscuits7239]

I love that format, it's basically people spitting all over KZbin's preference for short, shitty, frequent videos and saying "No, screw you, i'm gonna take all the time i need to make this beast as good as i can.".

[@hikari67]

@@sneezebiscuits7239 No, they have patreons, sponsors and china money not talking about their revenues from other videos, projects, merchs, streams or the sex shit for the females. No they're not risking anything bad to their career, they have the money and time to make this. It's far from being a "fuck you youtube"

[@Drakshl]

@@hikari67 not all channels that do this content are as big as this one. Smaller channels without so many resources are really harmed by the algorithm for taking time out to make an extende project

[@BarioIDL]

bald man in stained coat destroying people's reputation is mine

[@imded1934]

can't believe how they absolutely butchered Pietre in the American version, him going from a uncomfortable but efficient killer who doesn't take time in his kills (because why would he) to the exact opposite

[@lorenzooliveira1157]

Bad writer? Bad production overall? Bad acting? All of the above? Who knows!?

[@soberscrim299]

Least he killed an E-Girl in the penthouse

[@theunincredibleplatypus7465]

@im ded what’s the name of the show again?

[@harrisonhaine1199]

Americans

[@barry3351]

*an

[@ArnoldsKtm]

2 years later... It's finally time to watch this. What a brilliant show! Shame it ended like that. As always, ruined by sheer greed.

[@itsnowonder9856]

I love that Mr Rabbit is named after rabbits, animals that are typically associated with mass breeding and large quantities of children, subtle irony like that is why I love this show.

[@t.m.o2897]

HOLY SHIT wow I didn't even notice that

[@TheAstroProblem]

Also the idea of "falling down the rabbit hole"

[@t.m.o2897]

@@TheAstroProblem yeah, damn so many hidden meanings

[@RaxoFilms]

They named it after Rayman raving rabbids the hit video game

[@arxfang3274]

Dam, didn't even fuckin thought about it

[@Gromek999]

the madlad did it, he managed to upload it!

[@Lovicide]

Took him 3 years just to upload lol

[@walterwhynot1690]

Love you gromek

[@murooyundai]

I mean its worth it Looks like a good video for how far I watched

[@mEch-TF2]

yoooo gromek

[@comrade5184]

Play mordhau

[@DJ-xd3dt]

The way Pietre was handled in the US version removed pretty much all threat from his character. The UK character was threatening because of the slow and deliberate way he spoke, and the way he slowly waddles from place to place while still catching up. The US version has pretty much none of this and the tone of his voice makes him sound like a child rather than a threatening killing machine.

[@BillyBlock17]

Nice pfp

[@snifflysara3065]

@@BillyBlock17 nice pfp

[@profanepropane]

all hail the boognish my friend

[@higaiwokeru]

I think what makes me hate him is just how he just lacks subtlety like, let’s say you are making a show and a character is christian or sumn you would think to be subtle like let’s say they are put in a situation where they have to kill or sumn, you would make them pray in silence, ask for God’s forgiveness or just anything subtle. the creator of the US version of Utopia would prob give the character a cross necklace, make them carry a bible everywhere and repeat verses from the bible just so you get it in your head that they are christian

[@matiasescandon6214]

I like if Arby in the US remake was called Peter, like pietre in the UK version, but they called JhOnnnn.

[@Tony-zr8gm]

Can we talk about the fact that Michael in the US version is literally being denied equipment and every thing he has requested but he is able to get the DNA of a dead kid that had a virus and he doesn't question this.

[@mishmash4760]

I love how Pietre just dabs on each of his victims just to flex how alive he is

[@Danariya1]

Based

[@ds1futurehndrxx649]

Imagine if he just started nae nae’ing on the dead bodies

[@Random-hg4nl]

Same

[@thorjacobson8122]

I think he’s just covering his face from getting blood on it lol. I think it’s meant to show how used to killing he is and how depersonalized he’s become from it

[@e4rio]

@@thorjacobson8122 wooosh

[@rewinside]

Totally worth it - Whole video was 10/10.

[@leont837]

Stream mal lieber

[@OggerFN]

Schnauze rewi

[@bloodrayneamir]

i’m almost done

[@felixhaas2381]

True ist aber anders random dich zu sehn wtf

[@emo4eternity.]

was ist eigentlich mit Alphastein passiert

[@juniorbulbul]

Im officially 6 hours and 5 mins in, the fact that there is still solid editing and care put in this far along is just impressive to say the least. I pray this video gains massive traction and the uk utopia gets a part 3 to tie it up. EDIT: just finished the last hour or so. What a masterpiece of a show and video.

[@UltimateAbRod]

It´s already on 1M views so i think its getting lots of attention

[@thewhitetophat8965]

youtube doesnt deserve this level of quality

[@lobotomy1334]

Im watching it on x0.25 speed 😈

[@Kaliskot]

I’m 6 hours and 27 minutes in

[@glyph4359]

@@Kaliskot im waiting till i finish the show before watching this video

[@blackadder5346]

This video needs to be shown to the Channel 4 higher ups that cancelled this show, an 8 hour video essay with currently 13 million views, that doesn't happen often on youtube. I think it definitely goes to show the interest people have for Utopia still.

[@Crow7eathers]

I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but the conflict of Wilson has been hinted at since the beginning. He's spent the last five years erasing himself from anything. The internet, banking records, licenses. He wasn't just invisible but he was an empty glass jar. His character was someone who will be heavily influenced by the course of the show. Being lied to by his friends, tortured by Lee and Arby, the death of his Father and Letts explaining what Corvadt's main goals are filled that jar. THis transformation into the antagonist at the end of the first season is sad to see, but it's 100% justified when it does happen.

[@mihneabac]

ye

[@matteofaccin6636]

The jar was filled?😳

[@thepeanutprism]

and that was the moment Wilson became Heisenberg

[@kulfoa_1328]

@@matteofaccin6636 *_no_*

[@magnushinge2358]

ngl I wouldn't call him an antagonist, sure we are meant to see the network as bad but are they really tho? cause in this universe, maybe the network is needed, they are selfless they do not care if they die, they just wanna have the plan go down and save humanity, after all isn't doing things even if they are bad with good intention what makes a person good? idk just food for thought

[@Diego-wi8rc]

I feel like pyro just has hundreds of random clips of games he’s played and is desperately trying to find a place to put them

[@smol4107]

definitely

[@StrikeWarlock]

Pretty much me with my lame ass drone videos

[@walledsand]

Honestly probably

[@RainyBat]

@@StrikeWarlock that's not gonna make people watch, I hope

[@DylanCooper.]

100%

[@Kore_YT]

Finally finished this video, not much I can say that hasn't been said but good job, love these long form videos of yours!~

[@americankid7782]

I'm only 1 hour in. Is it good to the end?

[@pants7214]

@@americankid7782 yes absolutely

[@sanddebil]

2 hours in, I think I'm gonna make it

[@YvenvH]

@@americankid7782 i'm in 40 minutes

[@adr4122]

@@americankid7782 yes it's a good essay

[@Local_Lad]

I love the fact the villains are understandable, we are running out of resources and if it's just sterilizing people then... nobody dies, just children who wouldn't end up born, and would never have the chance to care that they never happened. It's strange to think that I do slightly agree with the bad guys here, if nobody ends up dead then who cares? also somebody uploaded the entire series on you tube, the current leading theory for why this was allowed is that the people who actually made utopia were so unbelievable pissed at amazon's catastrophic failure at making utopia again.

[@cowboy_kitty777]

It would be so funny if the theory was true lol

[@MrTriple3D]

you do realise how miserable the last old people on earth will be? and what happens when they realise they've all been steralized. what happens to the infrastructure that was once maintained by those people. it's just not a very well thought out plan, that is unless ofcourse AI was involved to replace the manwork.

[@BlisaBLisa]

its a dumb idea lol, there is no plan for what would happen after and by looking at the history of eugenics u can kinda predict this wouldnt end well. if we lose THAT much of the population we will struggle to survive and it will just cause suffering. there will not be enough people to maintain the systems we depend on, and why would we think we wouldnt go right back to making the same bad choices that got us here in the first place? you have to fix the systems causing this, or people will just continue to live unsustainably. the fear of overpopulation is not well founded and kind of outdated, we dont have a food shortage we have surplus food that doesnt get to everyone for political and transportation reasons. if you want to do climate stalinism this is not the way to go about it lmao this is just regular eugenics

[@Sm0k3turt]

Going from the UK version to the US version is actually one of the most Jarring experiences I’ve had with a piece of art. How can the same story be told so well and then so terribly.

[@ShitpostShuster]

US media that's how

[@jarlsterra]

@@ShitpostShuster The US has produced some of the greatest films and television series of all time though, that most certainly isn't the reason. You'd think the problem is Amazon then, but then they have shows like The Boys and Invincible which perfectly emulate the source material. The Boys even being better than the source material; elevating it beyond the superhero hate porn written by the author. I think this is more of a problem with the people directly involved with writing and producing the show, they messed up.

[@AfferbeckBeats]

I remember getting a Twitch ad for the US version and I was watching it thinking... hang on... this is ripping off Utopia! Then it hits me with the title card. I was disgusted. Fucking US remakes man.

[@kahlebhowarth-jennings9688]

@@jarlsterra American recreations of English TV more often than not go VERY wrong, there’s obviously outliers to that such as the office, but generally our subtle humour and nuanced way of conveying information doesn’t appeal to the American way of making the point very obvious which completely betrays most of the source material

[@John-sz9tg]

Go watch the English dub for squid game and you'll understand

[@thaitoan4760]

I love that while changing his type of content, his “bullying” personallities stay the same

[@ayyyayay]

his content isnt changing, he just makes analysis videos on top of the usual commentary videos

[@Patchess]

@@ayyyayay homie he hasnt made a commentary video in so fucking long

[@ayyyayay]

@@Patchess 3/5 of his latest videos are videos similar to the 2018/2019 content he makes dhar mann, arcade craniacs, and big ed..

[@ayyyayay]

@@Patchess i count most of his videos commentary but in a different sub genre commentary vids u reffering to are like from cody/danny while these videos like petsop, far cry etc. are like TRO

[@Patchess]

@@ayyyayay 2018 isnt commentary dude we talkin 2016

[@The42Horsepower]

A lot of the fear in the original comes from ambiguity. The fear of having a man you don't know ask questions about a woman you don't know, slowly and painfully. We don't get that as the audience in the US remake. We know who Jessica Hide is, and so there's no fear there. In addition, I think that the US version lacks a lot of the sophistication that the villains have. Lee and Pietre are so frightening because they are cold, emotionless, and methodical. Always very calm and clean. US Rod and Arby are nothing like this.

[@agoodplayer6745]

I return to this video every 6 months after randomly remembering it exists and binge it all in one sitting for no reason. 10/10 video.

[@flaredend6145]

I don’t know what possessed me to sit down and watch a 7 hour and 40 minute analysis of a TV show I’ve never heard of, but I’m very glad I did. This was super entertaining and thought provoking from start to finish!

[@undatedpeak1829]

loved it as well

[@aSmallGreenDot]

watch the show

[@peepeepoopoo4386]

Yes

[@he212ro8]

I just realised that its 7houry long sth lol

[@sniperplum47i8]

Idk how he does it but the pacing is actually impeccable. I can’t imagine watching a one hour review on anything but there’s something pyrocynical does that makes a 7 3/4 hour review not only bearable but enjoyable

[@arlindk._]

I love how pyro went from mlg parodies and commentary videos to making 8 hours analysis. He is one of the few youtubers who's content actually changed for the better through out time.

[@nifty1972]

I agree, like most youtubers go from doing nice little charming content to, DSMP IMPOSTER DREAM 500IQ SQUID GAME. But pyrocynical actually got better over time.

[@noxturne16]

truly great character development, i legit enjoyed this whole thing

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

It’s a good character arc for the youtuber anime.

[@DepartedMurphy]

I kinda feel like most youtubers advance to something better or different, it’s subjective really

[@glacier8678]

Makes me sad about what happened to prestonplayz…

[@logandillon4095]

Wilson's shift from a conspiracy theorist to head of the conspiracy is such a great and original curveball for character development. It's a shame that everyone was robbed of a 3rd season. I'd love to see Wilson's wrath against the main group fully realized

[@richardsainz4762]

is the series a cliffhanger? or is it finished

[@logandillon4095]

@@richardsainz4762 it was cancelled. Pyro talks about it in the video

[@crispyhundos]

I also love how perfectly set up his transformation was. He's the perfect person to be Mr. Rabbit, since he's already deleted any trace of himself from the world. He already doesn't exist

[@logandillon4095]

@@crispyhundos I never thought of that

[@billjacobs521]

The genophage was a good thing to bring up, because the writers of Mass Effect actually wrestle with this concept better. Like Janus, the genophage was designed to maintain a stable population--just keep living like normal, trying to have kids like normal, and enough children will be born to keep everything steady. But that's not what happened--removing the ability to have kids from most krogan robbed their lives of meaning. So many of them no longer cared, went off to live lives entirely based around gratification, with absolutely no concern for survival. On the other hand, some clans did try to cope with it, by treating women like baby factories, hoarding them to try and grow armies to use against the other clans. The result was immense societal breakdown; even their own, few sacred traditions were cast aside by a race now bitter and fatalistic. Of course, this was done in self-defense, against an aggressor that was killing millions, by a bunch of other races, so the situation is not exactly the same. But the idea that you could neuter 90-95% of the human race and expect things to continue on as normal, for some kind of gradual reduction in population to a more sustainable level, is crazy, for all the same reasons they give for why a lack of resources will lead to violence. If you think fighting for limited supplies of oil and copper would be brutal, imagine the fighting over fertile women, over the ability of groups to maintain their existence or even thrive, at least relative to their neighbors. The whole planet would erupt in violence, as groups (nations, religions, whatever) fought for what they believe to be their very survival. Those able to have kids would be sequestered in bunkers, churning out children--those who can't would likely find themselves essentially enslaved, unless they were lucky enough to get into a position of power. If nukes start flying, well, there goes the whole "It's for the planet" excuse. Not to mention, what if it works TOO well? What if EVERYONE is infertile, or such a massive percentage that the human race can't survive? Whoops!

[@theblaze5530]

This comment deserves more likes.

[@weeb_dweeb]

Holy shit this comment is good.

[@Settledrs]

Masterpiece. Tears running down my face during the outro montage, you have truly outdone yourself Pyro, new favorite video on the platform.

[@yes_lad]

@Mcfch he gets over 100k a video, what's your point

[@Not-Skuxx]

TOB KC: 0

[@vangoghsseveredear]

@Mcfch oof

[@throwaway8632]

@@yes_lad preach!

[@epicparade1]

@Mcfch Why do you choose to be this way?

[@pizzabagel]

** MAJOR SPOILER ** Just finished watching this again after watching the show and I realised something. Wilson in the beginning tells the group about wiping every bit of info about him on the web, making him "invisible". I take this as foreshadowing him becoming Mr Rabbit since Milner did the same thing by killing all those people who had seen her.

[@youraveragecommentor1212]

If so that would be amazing

[@Molten546]

Holy shit

[@Rabbit-the-One]

I wish this comment wasn't so high up. I was only an hour in when I saw it, and it spoiled the next 6 hours for me. It's fine to post, just very unfortunate placement in the comments section.

[@maylabrown4584]

@@Rabbit-the-One Don't go into the comment section before finishing the video then brainlet.

[@maylabrown4584]

@@kakophonien6514 No, shut up.

[@tf2engineer260]

Jessica is the original: an emotionally conflicted, broken person who tries to fit in with the group Jessica in the remake: haha hostage taking go bang bang

[@tachap6306]

Shoot

[@sthundergod]

Patrolling the mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

[@BruhMoment-cs6tj]

I mean... American 'junk-food' movie

[@not_thomas8249]

Adeel Ahktar? more like Ideal Actor

[@jon7980]

I basically just watched this whole show, and I didn't even pay a tellie license

[@bencolley909]

@@cjlister8508 you still need a TV licence, even on All 4 it asks you to declare you have a TV licence which tbh most people just say yeah lol without even reading it but by law you're still supposed to.

[@Grelpo-gen]

A tchellie loicense ol’ chap??

[@spike5499]

@@Grelpo-gen LMAO

[@CRT_YT]

i cant believe you've done this

[@darkflame1254]

simple as

[@WadZee]

you could say Wilson Wilson is played by the ideal actor

[@inviotb]

Oh shit didn’t expect to see you here

[@jrgenaas-tynning7514]

Oink

[@yourmomgeiyes3832]

3 comments only?

[@how0110]

good comment 👍

[@labrik0937]

Hello there

[@IsaacClodfelter]

Show cancellations are generally the most frustrating and baseless stifling of art we are privy to in the modern world. We get to see on the low end millions of dollars thrown into a project to see an idea come to life, an entire season at the least of story being established, then because sales figures are a percent lower than investors were hoping for they cancel it, leaving the story in limbo entirely by choice and abandoning the IP because if something doesn't make fast money then it is scary and might not ever make money and we all know art is no place for risks.

[@harrisonhaine1199]

and then they spend hundreds of millions on superhero trash

[@MidlifeCrisisJoe]

Yeah, no, that's idiotic. There are tons of awful, just, completely awful pieces of trash that no one watches because they are bad and which get rightfully canceled because no one watches them. Pretending every cancellation is some razor thin margin where it was only 1% lower than a suit's expected profit margin and some unjust "stifling of art" is hyperbolic rhetoric of the most hysterical kind. 90% of all "art" produced is crap. Most of it should be canceled after episode 1, the first draft, or while it's still stuck in the no-talent hack who's going to splurt it onto the world's head. Acting like audience reactions (which ARE the market solution known as ratings) are bad is elevating far too many pieces of tripe for the sake of a much, much smaller amount of decent art that goes unrecognized.

[@glass7923]

why isn't this the top comment yet?

[@ahh952]

@@MidlifeCrisisJoe Yeah, but then you have stuff like Infinity Train that is really good and has a big enough following, but it still gets cancelled for no real reason and there's no way to keep the story going because the copyright holders are CN.

[@lampad4549]

@@ahh952 there is a real reason otherwise it would not have been cancelled.

[@CMDR_Verm]

I'm a bit late to the party as usual. A couple of years ago (this is August 2024) Utopia came to my attention and I was so blown away I bought both series in a boxed set from Amazon. No cuts, proper ration, extras etc. I watch it at least twice a year as I never tire of it. I was so interested in the major theme I went and learnt about the Malthusian Disaster. Co-incidentally, I had re-watched both series just before I found this video. I even tried episode 1 of the USA version and you are quite correct - there is no comparison, I really enjoyed your take on Utopia. I will give you the highest compliment I can..........the British version brought me to tears several times, so did your video, for all the right reasons. The problem with a series as sublimely brilliant as Utopia is that nothing else comes close. I am doomed to watch mediocrity. But thank you for your hard work, it took me two nights but there was no way I wasn't going see it to the end, Cheers Sir!

[@alexathecoolperson]

fun fact; the reason British child actors are so good at acting in drama is because they have experience from being British their whole lives

[@TheRealRusDaddy]

Their so good at it because its all theyve ever known lol

[@User-1939t9]

top 10 times actors weren't acting

[@ryanelcock948]

Hahaha omg you're so funny

[@alexanderthegreat-mx5zu]

​@@ryanelcock948Yes,he is.

[@aw2584]

Ah yes the horrors of living in the 1st world country, and one of the richest at that Just joking lmao UK is a shithole n fkin sucks balls

[@decim0]

Honestly the greatest series analysis I’ve ever watched. Didn’t get bored at any moment listening to this. Pyro you’re an absolute legend, you did a phenomenal job on this project.

[@cate01a]

(or perhaps the show did a phenomnal job of being engaging)

[@yasin_GD]

how were you able to watch it tho? This comment is only 2 hours old

[@decim0]

@@yasin_GD I commented after I finished the video lmao

[@okayokayokay8]

I agree

[@leonsonny]

bro I'm 5 hours in

[@dysnomiaalvey]

Holy shit, trying to watch the American Utopia after seeing the original is so excruciating. Like the show would have been an unpleasant watch without knowing the source material, but knowing the source material makes me feel like my intelligence is not just being insulted, but rather relentlessly mocked.

[@hughjanus8673]

Perfectly worded

[@BreMofo]

That's how I feel about so many UK originals with a US version. Like Ghosts, I like the UK one, US one is steaming hot garbage.

[@juk1779]

Omg seriously I am actually having to pause every few seconds to talk to my gf about how bs the American version is…

[@juk1779]

@SpicyGraye Well I mean, the US did a good job with The office and Shameless… so not all bad but this one is very US

[@heckingbamboozled8097]

@@juk1779 The Office up until like Season 5-6 ish, really. Still a lot of mileage to get from a show that was originally like 12 episodes

[@repetitiveDebug]

just realised the cruelty squad ost is used in this video, foreshadowing at its finest, bravo vince

[@cawsomeaolin]

yes!!

[@nickstanley5064]

After watching him analyse the UK version, I can't really take the US portion of the video very seriously. Overall, great video, 10/10. Give us Petscop 2 already.

[@Womble3rd]

Really??? You can't take the US version seriously? I wonder why

[@johnroach9026]

@@Womble3rd Frankly, I haven't watched the US portion of this review since I don't want to spoil my views on this perfect show

[@Womble3rd]

@@johnroach9026 dw, just watch it, it's so far removed from the actual utopia show, it may as well be a kids show, it won't tarnish your opinion, it's amazing and if anything it will make you appreciate utopia even more

[@Sergeant_DC]

Im gonna spare the time of making my own comment saying this lol

[@forsakejake1119]

it’s a struggle to watch the us counterpart part

[@falkor9268]

holy shit that was a ride. the pacing was perfect, and i never imagined i could watch a nearly 8 hour review of a show, and still want to watch the entire show on my own.

[@DedRucktheDuck]

should’ve watched the show beforehand

[@leeshapon]

u can, someone uploaded the whole uk show on youtube

[@falkor9268]

@@leeshapon damn fr? I’ll have to look it up

[@magnushinge2358]

amen brother imma get this on dvd if possible

[@tassiegamer4516]

Pyro: “I just love this comic by the way,” Becky: “It’s a graphic nooovel!”

[@andrefilipe9042]

In the words of Alan Moore "Graphic novels are just more expensive comics"

[@VegaIllusion]

The series seems quite good but their plan for controlling the population seems kinda odd. If you think about it outside the West people do birth many children but child mortality is high and the average age is low. The West, as we all know, is the opposite. We have an absurd amount of elderly whilst having a rather low birth rate which is often boosted by non-Western immigrants. If you wanted to control the population by focusing on the West you’d need to start by culling the old, kinda like the vikings did. We are already doing it in a way with medication. Given how the elderly tend to have various health issues at once the different medications can pretty much kill them. Not to mention that there are many situations that prolong life at the expense of quality, all while putting a tremendous burden on the economy and young generations. Point is that culling the elderly is actually quite necessary if we are talking about population control. Now we have two options. Either we don’t employ any other policies and just keeping controlling the elder population since their lives have been devalued due to old age, or we take the chance to start controlling birth rates so that we don’t have to be killing the elderly. Controlling birth rates would be much more humane and it wouldn’t require sterilization. All this could be employed in a long-term plan where it could happen at a rather natural rate (just accelerated), thus making it a bit more ethical than it actually is (refer to the whole culling the elderly thing). I personally don’t think that over population is as problematic as people think. Without enough resources a species starts dying until their population reaches a sustainable number. With more people in the West we would have more people studying and developing more efficient technology (would be nice to also motivate the population to actually study useful degrees too). The non-Wester countries will self-regulate due to their own lack of a safe environment so them having more children isn’t an actual threat if they are kept underdeveloped (which most likely will happen).

[@JeremyMidlam]

Love how the villains in this aren’t some over the top evil/black and white. There is some logic that they could actually be the good guys, and that’s the most dangerous thing about people in real life who think this way. This is something Hollywood always gets wrong.

[@highjumpstudios2384]

Yeah, anything other than a strict black and white moral binary is hard.

[@nman551]

Yeah it’s interesting

[@merlenclownshuffles]

Its not dangerous, if were only trying to save you and ur a danger to your self.

[@maddiesmenagerie8853]

We stan these bad guys. They are well written and they spittin straight facts and people cant stop having 4 kids for no reason even though they live in a first world country and are plenty well off. Even close family members of my own have done it. Im almost done with his season one analysis on this video but damn so far im almost with the bad guys. I wouldn’t bring this situation about myself but I wouldn’t fight it either. Its a thing I’ve been concerned about along with most scientists, especially as one in a mentally unwell state in general. The way they go about it isn’t okay but if something like this naturally occurred without shooting hundreds of random people for no reason and possibly a genetic mutation or something we cant even really be mad at that point. Edit: nvm the whole nazi shit is wack definitely don’t stan HOW/WHAT they’re saying/doing for these things… if you’re going to prevent humans from breeding you shouldn’t be able to select WHO does get to reproduce. It’s still 500mil ppl. Even if some bad diseases get left in the genome thats NATURE. Granted, you want to make sure all 500mil don’t ALL have crippling genetic problems but otherwise it needs to be almost if not entirely pure random.

[@blundering.]

I also love how the "good" guys also do stuff that, when seen from a different angle, can make them the bad guys

[@memeyartist5591]

Holy shit I fucking love Pietre, the writers for this show are immensely talented. I can't believe I love a remorseless, heartless character so much that it brings a legit smile to my face to see him happy with a family :D

[@ThBlueSalamander]

cultured

[@Akunai_]

“I like cartoons” -Pietre

[@Adam-hv3kc]

It’s literally so funny how I can absolutely love a character that I literally saw gun down children, it just shows how talented the writers are

[@maximvsdread1610]

Did anyone else get the joke...Pietre...as in 'Petri Dish' because he was an experiment?

[@g0dzilla_au]

Truly one of the best scenes

[@hypnoxxcat]

The entirety of my past two days have been waking up, going to work, coming home and watching four hours of this video, then falling asleep. One of the most amazing, in-depth videos ever made. I just hope this spreads enough awareness about Utopia to get a season three made. One can only dream...

[@davidbanan.]

Used Tenticle lash on magister knight

[@hypnoxxcat]

@@davidbanan. Keepin' it together, Bree?

[@kratt6599]

Hear ye, hear ye, queen justinia

[@hubbug6847]

I hope they don’t make a season 3 actually.

[@hypnoxxcat]

@@kratt6599 EXECUTES TWO DOZEN NOBLEMEN FOR INSUBORDINAAAAAAAASHUNNN

[@allibaba711]

I actually watched the Amazon Utopia and thought it was trash. Especially as it seemed to be an interesting idea. Thanks for introducing me to the OG, I had no idea

[@JeanMarceaux]

Do you think the casting for Wilson went like "We need an ideal actor for this" and then Adeel Acktar just gives them a call and says "lads you're not gonna believe it"?

[@Lia-td17]

RIGHT, i was listening to this video as background sound and didn't notice that pyro said his actual name and not "ideal actor" and occasionally went "wow he really likes this actor huh" but i mean, either way, both names refer to him

[@wadejg_blaze0n213]

Wilson Wilson was really played by the ideal actor

[@CasperTheRamKnight]

lol

[@Pengd]

I've never loved and hated a fictional character more than Jessica. The UK's version is so endearing and memorable, and then the US version is literally the most obnoxious, detestable and irredeemable character.

[@wolfofverdun9084]

That's because the UK Jessica is a broken, damaged individual who still desperately tries in certain ways to cling to what's left of herself and her humanity. Whereas the US version is just "le crazy asshole """badass""" "

[@sars910]

The US version is a walking cringe factory who wouldn't know nuance and subtlety if it hit her on the highway travelling 100 miles an hour.

[@stepladder7245]

the only difference you need to know about the 2 characters is that uk jessica buys drugs as painkillers for wilson while us jessica refuses to change the bandages because "women have problem"

[@memeyartist5591]

part of it is also the difference between a well written "strong female character" that isn't there just for show, and a garbage written "strong female character" that's just there to be a token

[@yousef858]

Average “strong women” in American writing has to be the worst character with no redeeming characteristics

[@paulturner6834]

The us version lacks any and all subtlety and is a complete insult to the original. It’s amazing how spectacularly they miss what made the original great. Excellent video btw.

[@andrewrobertson3894]

Hmm ...where have I heard that before 🤔

[@OsnoloVrach]

@@andrewrobertson3894 Y'know its really bad if everyone is talking about how bad it is

[@andrewrobertson3894]

@@OsnoloVrach I was referring to the "us version lacks any and all subtlety" line. Time and again, it's so absolutely true.

[@acatfrompoland5230]

There are still people leaving 1 start reviews on the UK version saying the US one is better lol....

[@CrimesForDimes]

@@acatfrompoland5230 Probably 13-16 year olds, Im sorry that my country has to act stupid sometimes.

[@MrCruuush]

I think Milner expected a very different answer to this question in 3:15:33 and her gestures show that. Like if Wilson had said that he sees a harmless middle aged woman or literally any other response than calling her a murderer she would segue into appearances being deceiving. Except Wilson is not blind to the damage she has done, he is just turning a blind eye to it (ha ha get it?) and is fixated on that aspect of the network’s methods, after all he lost his eye, father and sense of normalcy to these same methods. And you can see Milner’s disposition switch from being comforting and reassuring to being cold and defensive.

[@sharksblades7118]

lets pay some respect to pyro RAM for rendering 8 hours material. he is the real hero behind the process.

[@valeria.living]

or maybe sony vegas for somehow not fucking exploding

[@bedstal]

He has an editor now

[@ylondes9927]

@@bedstal No, this was his passionproject he made himself.

[@nzamr]

@@ylondes9927 no he literally said he worked on it with his two editors on stream

[@friendhaus1858]

um its kind of problematic to give masculine pronouns to good things because of the history of what men have done to women and indigenous people................

[@dj-y7018]

Original Utopia was fucking incredible I was so heartbroken than when they stopped making it. The music is one of the best things about it I still listen to those soundtracks on Spotify all the time. I completely blame channel 4 for us losing such an incredible show. EDIT: should have mentioned the guy who made the soundtrack is Cristobal Taipa deveer (I think I spelt that right maybe), incredibly talented if you're in to atmospheric soundtracks he is one of the best

[@bingbangbong497]

on the cliffhanger aswell

[@Lazy_ness]

bruh i was so fucking hyped by the ending, only to be immediately depressed

[@peepeepoopoo4386]

Same

[@Skullcandy5282]

Imagine watching it as it came out, I was crushed in my teens when the show was cancelled, it was something really special similar to other UK shows that aired at the time and in the years to come like the inbetweeners, skins, this is england and misfits but on a whole new level. Personally for me it was the first show that really fully captivated me, even the advertising for utopia was exceptional, its heartbreaking to know we'll never have a third season, I always wanted a real conclusion to the show.

[@1010AAG]

"I think a child needs love" from Pietre gets me every single time :(

[@sintua]

1:43:00 I think R.B.'s "don't look" shooting style may have actually evolved out of that. The actor tries the firearm out and flinches, and thinks of how *a child* would deal with the stimuli shock, let alone the horror of looking at someone you are killing. He's been doing this since he was a kid, his whole *assassination style* is something a kid would need to do: walk right up to someone unsuspecting, get up close and turn away from the loud bang, then leave the area --and suppress that trauma!-- Doesn't need to suppress it since he's numb to it... though they establish the character didn't really *like* doing it, and had a constant inner struggle over it. "Turning a blind eye" to the murders he commits, literally, seems pretty fitting.

[@solderfumes]

He didn’t need to suppress the trauma, his dad made him have no emotion in the first place.

[@sintua]

@@solderfumes true! He wouldn't need to suppress it since he's numb to it... though they establish the character didn't really *like* doing it, and had a constant inner struggle over it. "Turning a blind eye" to the murders he commits, literally, seems pretty fitting.

[@Gromek999]

41:19 dude Mandalore had fucking JCS - Criminal Psychology cameo as well recently lmao, this is hilarious

[@pingasbungus4517]

4 dimensional crossover 4th wall removal

[@lemur_HD]

Thisnis wird seeing you hear

[@zombieford]

GROMEK LETS GOOO

[@griper00]

yo robocraft ?

[@0uttaS1TE]

"Smoothie tiiiiiime"

[@Skelloter]

I got too hyped for the show by the 10 minute mark, imagine my disappointment when I watched it all AND IT WAS CANCELLED AFTER THE SECOND SEASON. Great show, left my balls very blue. Now I revisit this.

[@trosanlosan8803]

same

[@Bartmanny]

Same

[@Sputterbug]

seems like every really really good show that becomes a cult classic gets cancelled

[@LukasQueen]

The worst part is how set up a 3rd season was. So many questions created at the end, even teased the season colour being red

[@squidito2534]

I agree but having said that, it could just be left how it was with those questions. I guest the point is it just carry’s on with a new leader