Q&A: Geography of Sarasvati & Aryavrata in The Epoch of Vedic Ritualistic Manuals

[@bhatiavinod294]

Eye & Mind Opener!! His explanation PUNCHED me like 1000TON of Hammer!! Innovative, knowledgeable.

[@rameshmuttur1236]

Such an important discussion is attended by such a small gathering! This shows our attitude to our own history. Unfortunately, I live in Mysore and feel secluded from these activities. My Pranams to Guruji for his depth of knowledge. I wish such events are highly advertised and made known to many people well in advance, so that, large number people attend and take home the true history of our Bharat

[@shashanktripathi3398]

Ramesh Muttur bro he is not Salman Khan, he talks sense which people don't like in this country.

[@rajshekhar1147]

We have become stupid can't understand complex things which is told in more than 10-15 minutes.

[@k.bhatta4257]

Well said. The wisdom embedded in the vedas, upanishads, and the epics The Ramayana and Mahabharata, and the puranas, is absolutely stupendous and unparalelled; the more you read the more you discover. Eg. cf. The Bhagavadgita is a repository of Pure Science by Dr Kamalakara Sharma (PGuru's Channel).

[@Educan_is_Key_To_Achievement]

When people were unable to understand Vedic literature that's why converted to Jains and Buddhists

[@sanny2k2]

So profound! That is why Vedas were/are meant to be studied by only eligible persons.

[@k.bhatta4257]

And it has been presented by BI forces as Brahminical hegemony and domination over others!

[@paharipant2]

The breakdown of the Rig Vedic verse was fascinating....also humbling.

[@RakeshYadav-mr7yb]

original work. never heard something like this before

[@saiecorp5646]

Great theory. Great personality, very humble and knowledgeable.

[@shobhitsah9411]

Great discourse on ancient Indian history and civilization 👍🙏🏻

[@AnandRajappan]

Wonderful and very convincing talk - that proves that all vedas are indeed connected and of same time and nothing to prove that it was written during different time periods, as the westerners speculate. And Sri. Mrugendra Vinod ji proves without doubt that Vedic period is pre-Harappa / Indus Valley / Indo sarasvathi valley civilization in this speech. It is such a delight to learn the truth and to see such humble and exalted person like Sri. Mrugendra Vinod ji deliver his lecture. Danya hey ham. Pranams to Sri. Mrugendra Vinod ji and wish he and his team cont. such research more and more.

[@rajeshkumarjain263]

It my innermost soul states that your logic will be upheld. Really wonderful Sir.

[@nags7329]

Saashtaang Namaskaar to this great person's knowledge and clarity.

[@achatterjee9159]

Amazing knowledge. Hope his work gets the appreciation and support it deserves. 🙏🙏

[@thegreattitan132]

Truth comes above all, Excellent work 👍👍👍in just spec in time, future world will have to accept

[@anupamjain8140]

Amazing revelations of Vedic texts

[@utubetruthteller]

What you assumed in the beginning you will prove at the end . So true of Western science.

[@rajshekhar1147]

Great thought of linking Veda to Geography to archeology. If this is debated and accepted by academics then a big change happens in understanding Indian ancient history. All the present academics say that Aryans came from outside, brought Sanskrit from outside, Vedas were written out side of India. Now, if Mrigendra Sir's argument accepted then everything were created here and there was no fight between Aryans and Dravidas.

[@jyotivyas9286]

Shri Mrugendra Gurujee is A Diamond Thunderbolt.. Very Dangerous Rebellious.. Simple Authentic... A Diamond Sword... Which Cuts the Untruth so 💓 HeartWarmingly🤺🤺🤺✈️✈️✈️Udharvgaman kee Mahayatra.. Ho Rahee hai aapke Jaise Mahaan Rishi ke Saath🙏🙏🙏✊✊✊💐🌻💐🌻🌾🌻🌼🏵️🌼🍀🙏🍀🙏🙏🌼🏵️🙏🌼🏵️🌻🌸🌻🌸🌻💐🌻🌼🏵️🙏🌻🌼🙏🏵️🌻🌼🏵️🌻🌼🌻🏵️🏵️🏵️🏵️🏵️🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🏵️🌻🏵️🌻🏵️🌻🌻🌻🌻🌼🌼🌼🌼🌻🌼🏵️🌼🏵️🌻🌼🏵️🌻

[@vipulchaturvedi7390]

What is also most illuminating is your reference of Arrata in your text , a place I was trying to fix location of.

[@jyotivyas9286]

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[@nakulgote]

I listened to Robert Reich the geneticist studying ancient DNA, on a podcast. He too was supporting the AIT and was trying to imply that Aryans from Eurasia replaced hominids and other Homo sapiens violently, although this appeared to be based on speculation (he was quick to discard the possibility of a volcanic event in Italy causing mass extinction). These guys are good orators and know how to win the audience and sell an idea to them subconsciously.

[@tejasvi18joshi]

These white people want keep live and impose this AIT fake theory because by doing so they want fake proud that white have always been intelligent and advance people.

[@nakulgote]

@@tejasvi18joshi Robert Reich is an Ashkenazi Jew, so he doesn't want to prove AIT because of his white pride. Anything else but that. One could imagine though, that he is interested in proving that we all are descendants of people who committed genocide and conquered others' lands, so there should be no pride in ancestry or culture and no borders, etc. But that's all speculation. Let's rather talk about his research and his speculations.

[@tejasvi18joshi]

@@nakulgotethese world citizen proponent people are unconsciously propagating abrahmic communist ideology. What they basically preaching is that destroy your identity, culture, traditions etc. These people are anti diversity.

[@samarthbarshi1916]

Aryan Invasion Theory is BULLSHIT just like you 😉

[@sauravsouravi5590]

Robert Reich is a known forger. He has baseless study which got questioned by many. There was a Out of India migration into europe.

[@sa123in]

What a clarity of thought and being able to stick to it adamantly to put your point that changes the course of our textbooks.

[@kkagrawal5583]

Dear Prof. Raj Vedam, What a profound lecture deliberations on an equally profound subject. Prof. I am an old Civil Engineer graduate of 1963 from IIT-KGP. However, your video lectures are so interesting that I feel, I have deprived myself of a very very important subject that you have deliberated herein. Sir, I feel so grateful to you and your wonderful communication. I am really impressed. God Bless you. Love. KKAGRAWAL

[@akshatadarsh8204]

His words were rude but so much eye opening....He is literally focused towards his work, word and approach....🙏

[@theritualist5175]

Tears in my eyes

[@TrekkinTales]

A refreshing approach to solving this age-old problem! Such research needs to be made more visible!

[@rajshekhar1147]

We Hindus use words symbolically, like we say our stomach is the place of fire, our body has elements of Earth, fire, space, air, etc. And our scripts also use these symbolic linking . So for an outsider it looks absurd and he interprets these as incoherent writings. But only an Indian with knowledge of Veda s can truly interpret Veda and give proper perspective to it. Mrugendra Sir had done a fantastic work.

[@unscriptedrides]

Maverick! Very Original work...

[@devpadmashali1265]

Sir, you are the best....you didn't give a chance to poke... Thank for explaining... All the best...

[@rex007king]

Eyeopening presentation

[@KiranKiran-yp1vl]

Thank you. No other words remained. More vedadyayi required to conquer Dogmatic argument. Our heritage of alankara is out of outsiders imaginative power. Every where outsiders claim our people work.😇

[@sauravsouravi5590]

Mesmerizing in the last 10 min.

[@dineshsharma6125]

Thanks for pointing out.

[@venkatragavanrangachari3480]

The issue is how people try to fit every evidence in the existing models of AIT-OIT assuming Aryan-Dravidian hypothesis. This leads to a lot of contradictions on both sides. We need to have 3 points in mind and then try to fit all the evidences we get based on those- 1. There are two main language families (not excluding the other 4 major ones) South Indian (Dravidian) and North Indian (Gauda). Gauda and Dravida means north and south. Both languages are very much Indian. One evolved in North India (Sanskrit related) and the other in South India (Tamil related). 2. Rig Vedas and other Vedas have been written and compiled over thousands of years. Which means different verses can describe events thousands of years apart. Since they have been compiled multiple times, just because two verses are next to one another it may not always mean they were composed together at the same time. Saraswati River did exist, it had a time when it was flowing mighty and there was a time when the rain fall reduced and geological activities which led to reduction in water flow. Overtime the physically thebriver and it’s flow changed. 3. Genetic factors - Genes do not tell what language someone spoke. Languages do not give any indication about genes. So there is not point trying to extract result from it as the main or sole source. There were no genetic mixing in the Indus- Saraswati River civilization before 5000 years and around 4500 years ago, there was some admixture with a group carrying European genes. My inference from all the research is ISVC is definitely post - Vedic. The reduction in rainfall and geological activity caused River Saraswati to go from being Mighty to totally dry now. Also Saraswati region must have had multiples spates of dry and wet centuries. Similar fate also affected regions in Iran and Afghanistan. The early sister civilizations of early Vedic civilization I.e. Zoroastrians has already mixed much with European populations. They moved back into India at a later time which is what we see in the genetic evidence. Sanskrit related language had already spread from areas near Punjab and Kashmir to the west-NW over several millennia ago. Vedas also mention non-Aryan kingdoms such as Bahlika, Parshava, Pakhta etc. they are Balkans, Persian and Pakhtuns. Similar groups who migrated out of the area after dasarajna battle and expanded north and NW of their kingdom, they carried different dialects of their precursor languages which gave rise to the different Indo-European languages we have today.

[@xeonquantum3966]

We also have found settlement evidence of proto-indo-european who migrated to India from Central Asia/south Russian. All the settlement were dated and match with rig Vedic culture, which is also contemporary to Indus valley civilzation. And the hypothesis is clearly matches with kurgen culture. Vedic Sanskrit is only indo-european language which has little retroflex sound . If Aryan moved outside from india, these Retroflex sound have must have found in other indo-european language. But it's totally absent. On other hand these Retroflex sound found among dravidan groups at very high especially tulu than Tamil.

[@venkatragavanrangachari3480]

XEON Quantum please watch the talk by Shri Shrikant Talageri and you will find answers to your question. Vedic Aryans did not move out of India to Central Russia during that timeline but their sister civilizations who spoke similar languages moved out. Kurgan is the place from which the people living to the NW of India (tribes who are related to Vedic Aryans not Aryans themselves) moved out from. Vedas record this. And several centuries after some of them moved back (mixed with European native genes). Vedas also record some of these events. Of all the sister civilizations, two were very close Avestan and Vedic. Avestan is a lost Vedic civilization which also worships Fire but is monotheistic. However Vedic is polytheistic but gives great importance to Fire as well. This difference is what made Vedic people call themselves Aryan and others Non-Aryan. Vedas have a mention of Aratta kingdom and this has been found now and this was extinct long before the current timeline of when Western indologists say Vedas were written. Rig Veda has 10 books of which the 5 old books (family books) and 5 newer books. Many mentioned of spoked wheels are in the new portions of RV. And along with mentioned of other things the later portions or RV composition can be dated to early late 3rd millennium and this means all old books were older than that which would mean Kurgan and Early RV period could have been concurrent.

[@naveenchandra672]

There were no two language branches. Tamil was not an independent branch. It has 26 or so letters. it does not have all the sounds required for a phonetic language. Look Telugu has 56 letters. It has both ta and da. Tamil does not have ta.Tamil people keep pushing this untenable idea of being equal to Sanskritam. No way. Tamil has more than 43% Sanskritam words. Sanskritam doe snot have a word of Tamil. Sanskritam produced writers like Valmeeki, Vyass, Kalidas, Bharavi, Bhartruhari, Bhaasa and many more. Neither in quality nor in quantity, can Tamil literature compete with Sanskritam. It is so pitiable looking at the limited sounds in Tamil. Of course you will invoke idiots like Karuna Nidhi whose both names are Sanskrit words. Why did not he have two Tamil words? How come 90% of the Tamil names have Sanskritam words? But you don't see Tamil words not even in Telugu not to speak of Bengali. It is irritating and frustrating to read the outlandish claims of Tamil people.

[@venkatragavanrangachari3480]

Naveen Chandra How much do you know about Tamil literature? Have you heard of Thiruvalluvar, Nakkerar, Auvayyar, Ottakoothar, pulavar pugazhandhi and many such great writers and poets? It is funny how people start taking about Tamil language with minimal knowledge. Tamil history talks about Tamil Sangams and loss of land to tsunami, flood and rising of sea level. The reason for Tamil having Sanskrit and Sanskrit having Tamil is due to thousands of years of interaction. Both languages can exist free of each other because they existed in much more primitive form before the interaction began. Agathiyam one of the lost work about Tamil grammar was the first book to talk about how to use Sanskrit in Tamil, this is because - Tamil existed without Sanskrit then and because Sanskrit was being increasingly used in Tamil kingdoms. Later Tamil grammar book Tolkappiyam (which survives till this day) says that It is based off of Agathiyam also has these section.

[@venkatragavanrangachari3480]

Naveen Chandra When it comes to words and alphabets, just because a language has less alphabets does not disprove the claim of its antiquity. And when it comes to names and Hinduism, manny features of Hinduism comes from Tamil culture and even to this day there are so many Tamil names which are without Any Sanskrit in them. Karunanidhi is a hypocrite and just because he is an idiot, you cannot say Tamil is not old.

[@jagdishramanathan4620]

very happy to listen

[@rkr1831]

Excellent...

[@tusharmaithilee]

🙏

[@goognamgoognw6637]

I love his show, i like watching him talk, it gives me good mood.

[@ishantsharma7647]

Sangam talks, please tell me how to attend these beautiful lectures

[@vishalahir1458]

Love❤ talks

[@rangilabetichodhapsipigemb6745]

Save the land of dharma aryavart which was extended to Iran to Iraq the great vedic culture🙏🙏🙏

[@Devendrakumar-qc5dc]

Saraswati maa Ko fir se jeevant krke or vedo mai btaye Gye yug se moksa prapt kr skte hai ???...iska MATLAB to kuch ESA he lag rha h

[@jyotivyas9286]

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[@naveenchandra672]

Krishna comes to meet Arjun when he was coming from his pilgrimage at a teertham called Prabhasa on the river Sarswati. This was suppposed to be the confluence of the river. How do you explain this? This story occurs in Adi Parvam of Mahabharata, after Draupadi swayamvaram and before Rajasooya Yagam..Or are we talking about a story that happened before the time of Bharata?

[@Wisdom-i1v]

Mahabharata is much later than the vedas

[@naveenchandra672]

Yes Of course. I did not say Vedas are after Mahabharata. We are talking about date of Mahabharata. What I am saying is River Saraswati had confluence in the sea at the time of Mahabharata. I gave one story from Adi Parvam referring to Subhadra Parinayam. Later, in Shalya Parvam Balaram undertakes a pilgrimage along Saraswati from Kurukshetra and ends up in Prabhasa teertham, on the sea. Again my point is River Saraswarthi had confluence in sea during the time the story of Mahabharata takes place, if we believe in the text referring to Subhadra Parinayam and Bakaram teerthayatra, both occurring in two different times separated by around 30 years. So Saraswati did not dry during this period. Thank you.

[@kapildeoprasaddubey2337]

Please forward slok form of Saraswati River importance in Rigveda

[@vipulchaturvedi7390]

Your identification of Saraswati as a special non glatial fed river also supports a tradition in India, whereby all water founts are revered as places of holy pilgrimage like significance. And for that matter even origins of glatial rivers like gangotri yamunotri mansarovar etc are also held as holy places. Now what requires to be established is that in kurukshetra the centre of civilization Saraswati was only such river that originated from a fount. Also is there a mention of sapt Sindhu in the texts thatt you are quoting as your base source?

[@bhavanavejandla6919]

1 Yojana is it 8 km or 8 miles sir?

[@ashokgadhvi4470]

I like apni galimai. To kutabhi Sher ho ta hai to ye to ved hai 🙏🙏🙏

[@shekharb2981]

The title AryaVrata,itself is appeared to be wrongly spelled,instead correct it as AryaVarta.Thank you.

[@sadenb]

So saraswati is as wide as brahmaputra?

[@AnandRajappan]

It is not necessary and not relevant to this context as Sri. Mrugendra Vinod ji explains.

[@pratham5719]

Sometimes this guy becomes clueless about what he is talking how many of u would be interested to know that we have an internal evidence in mahabharat shalya parva gaddaar yuddha adhyae that saraswati flowed till the sea in middle it got lost at vinashna and then again it continued till plaksha praksharvana. I don't know what he thinks about the statement in rigveda which describes saraswati as "ati gribhyat a samudrat' that is starting from the mountains flowing into samudra Or ocean which was in fact a reality sometimes befre 9000 years to 15000 years when saraswati was in its grandest stage Naditame Ambitame Devitame Saraswati.

[@MunaLife]

I do not understand - if Sarasvati was not really a huge river during the Vedic period, and if the Vedic period predates or overlaps with Indus civilization which means both Vedic and Indus are actually the same civilization, then why are most settlements of Indus valley civilizations have been discovered along the Sarasvati river basin? In those days settlements should naturally have occurred along a flowing river to make communication and trade possible and not along hrada or lake like waterbed. Therefore, indus settlements must have occurred along a well watered flowing actual Sarasvati river. Won't this mean that the Harappan civilization happened prior to the epoch of Vedic ritual manuals?

[@aamipankaj]

According to hydrological evidence presented by Nilesh Oak saraswati river was 8 km wide till 20000BCE but after that it strated shrinking. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaXWqq2oecxlpJY

[@kishanky1352]

55:42 Humans did evolve in Africa though

[@dineshsharma6125]

Humans started from there and kept evolving from then onwards

[@krantifortruth4580]

He is like baba Ramdev

[@nir2661]

ISRO SAYS OTHERWISE.

[@sadenb]

Not going into the other field of thought limits your corroboratios

[@AnandRajappan]

@sanch Sanchayan: not really, unless the other field is trustworthy (as explained by Sri. Mrugendra Vinod ji that when you go into the western scholar basic premises, assumptions, we may find so many flaws filed with speculations) and those fields may be counter productive to establish the truth end up diluting our strong case of establishing the truth.