Q & A on Lodge Park Living. Part 2 out now.

[@outthereactive939]

So very useful - many thanks for making and sharing this !!

[@goberianchloex3646]

Best information iv seen on this subject. Very well done x x

[@KKandEV]

Appreciate your comment. Thanks

[@susanannekyle5953]

Thank Q. Very informative 👍

[@KKandEV]

Part 2 is next week !!!

[@daviddiluvicusor]

Excellent film and interesting information. We are looking to downsize and have some money left over, to spend on "living a retirement". Being in Essex a decent house in a countryside location is 500K. I do maintenance work and a customer bought a old style Mobile home, as an office. I built the base and plumbed it in on his Farm. I also visited the site where it came from, to get some missing connectors. All the old style Mobiles were being replaced with the new type and with piped gas. The 47kg bottles were all going. They look splendid and the location is adjacent to a golf course (Don't play myself) theirs a gym, bar and open space. The buy-in costs start at £195,000, plus estimated 6K a year running costs. Its not cheap, it would be a total change in lifestyle and maybe after years of a high pressure working life. It could be a healthy change. We are both feeling a little burnt out.. It would make a cost effective UK base, to travel from.

[@KKandEV]

GO FOR IT !!!!

[@KKandEV]

PART 2 Question and Answer now on the channel !!!!

[@rodneyallister9877]

This man is bang on Holiday home but there are people that spoil and cheat the law

[@sunflowers2682]

🎉We are currently looking at park homes. Your videos, are good. Regardless of the comments on here it is, all useful chatter and outlines things important to ask, check or, act upon. For us it seems more complex than buying "normal". I've searched online too and it's, hard to find info from residents. You do such a good job at discussing pros, and cons. Thank you

[@KKandEV]

Much appreciated

[@lindafellows8218]

Hi are u thinking about selling your home and buying a lodge

[@lindafellows8218]

YES BUT I NO I WILL NEVER GET BACK WHAT I HAVE BUT ITS TO BIG FOR 2 OFF US AND I STRUGGLING WITH 2 SET'S OF STAIRS IN MY HOME AND STRUGGLING TO KEEP IT CLEAN IM OCD CLEANING ON GETTING ON SO ITS NOW ARE NEVER AM IN SCOTLAND AND I WOULD BE LOOKING IN AYRSHIRE COAST LOOK AT 2 BUT DIDN'T LIKE SO GOING TO SE A NEW ONE NEXT THURSDAY 9TH XX

[@KKandEV]

Go for it 👍🏻👍🏻

[@lindafellows8218]

@KKandEV let u know about the one next week in crosshead caravan pk

[@Umopuns]

Very helpful video, thanks!

[@KKandEV]

Thankyou

[@alantheskinhead]

Good video. We just bought our first holiday home in Leicestershire so we paid less and good value. We live in London and we wanted aa bolt hole that was no longer than two hour drive/100 miles. I lived in Leicester for 30 years so I wanted to come back. We also looked at Barmouth where my dad's family came from but that was a 260 mile/Up to 8 hours drive one way! Plus the fees where nearly £4500.00 compared to £3000.00 we settled on. The caveats are where we bought a lodge is you need a car. It's also clear that most people are living on our site so we must be exception to the rule!

[@KKandEV]

Enjoy it. The biggest issue is that some are buying with one thing in mind and that’s to live in it ALL the time year round with no U.K. Residency / address, that is a concern. 12, 10 or even 8 month Permits are not for permanent living. Councils are coming down on this hard and taking action.

[@alantheskinhead]

@@KKandEV We originally were going to buy a used one but ended up buying a brand new "ex showroom" model with all the furniture, crockery, cutlery and bedding! We only had to a TV or two and the decking. We massively overspent... but it is cheap housing compared to London. My mate's parking space in C.London cost the same price!

[@Eddie-pf1dw]

I live in a park home and the bills are far higher for energy as they are detached and made of wood. Like fridges in winter and greenhouses in summer (holding in the heat). You pay ground rent per month which depends on the size of your home. They are high maintenance too with needing to be painted outside every few years (as per Insurance requirements). On selling the seller has to pay, by law, 10% of the sale value to the Owner which has been debated in Parliament for around 10 years now with trying to abolish this rate. The law is different in Wales to England.

[@KKandEV]

Thanks for the input. A Park Home that’s classed as a Residential home is very different over a Holiday home. The size of a Holiday home is irrelevant on most sites. The single units are the same as Doubles here at £2,500 for everyone. Some are worse than others regarding heating them. A British Standard rated Holiday home is better as they are insulated far more than others. On my site it’s only a 5% fee of sale price. All sales fees are not “by Law” but only applicable if you sign a Contract with the Site owner that states the fees. There is no written Law about fees. It is time for change in the Law for ALL owners of Park Homes and Holiday homes.

[@tonyporter82]

I want to live abroad, but was thinking that owning a static might be a smart move. As I could return and have a base for work or rent out when I'm not in the UK. Would lime to know how much a two bedroom on a holiday park would cost. As well as site fees, and what I could expect from it in terms of rental income?

[@KKandEV]

You would need to purchase on a Full Residential OR 12 month permit site to have any income from it. Done site owners don’t allow Sub letting so that as another question you would need to ask before buying. Holiday Parks are normally a cheaper buy but have more yearly ground rent costs. Some can be £4,000 plus and then Electric and Gas on top. I know a few that are £7,000 a year! Cost of the units are all over the place and Location has a massive input on what you would pay for one. Renting it out with a full time , long term renter could make as much as renting a house can… all dependant on where, how big and other costings.

[@RichieAustinMagician]

a holiday park static van would be anything from £40-200k+ plus year site fees of £5000+ your income from renting would be limited as most parks charge you for this and its only to be done via that company, you would be better off buying a small flat as at the end of your site licence your left with nothing

[@KKandEV]

Site fees where we are have been £2,500 for three years and include limitless water, sewage and community gardens looks after. It’s a 12 month site. We would never had purchased a unit on a 10 month site.

[@KKandEV]

You are left with the Lodge and sites don’t simply come to an end.

[@RichieAustinMagician]

Think your site is an annomoly most sites have a age limit on what is aloud on sites, plus water rates are extra (especially Holiday Parks) after the 10/20 year site licence is up you have to upgrade or sell back to site for next to nothing, I've been around parks for a long long time....

[@KKandEV]

Since the making of this post I can honestly say at the rates of Energy I was paying and if you put in the Ground Rent, Standing charges, yearly loss of value and more it is cheaper to live in a two bedroom house or small Bungalow. Rates plus water costs are normally under £2k for a Terrace or Small Bungalow so that’s a huge saving. Losses of 5% per annum and no chance of Solar or cheap rates of Energy must be considered!

[@edseager8605]

I've always wondered why the guttering water does not seem to go down an actual drain, instead it just seems if the water is just left to drain on the ground below.. This must create a mess of the skirting and also the ground upon which the lodge is situated.

[@KKandEV]

It’s a good point but I’ve not noticed any mess. All Lodges are concrete based and the gutters flow out onto the grass areas making any residual water sink into it. It would be better for some to have a gravel “french drain” if it gets puddled. None of ours on this site have any issues.

[@donaldmcdiarmid8228]

A residential park home licence is in perpituity [ not for 10 or 20 years ] and you are protected under the mobile homes act .You cannot legally live on a Holiday park ie [ 12 month licence ]

[@KKandEV]

I never said it was. I did state the plot was on a 20 year lease.

[@yeboha]

some sites ive seen are 50 weeks of the year, so just take a holiday for the other two weeks lol

[@Akeso_ppp]

and how much u pay park site fee a year at goes up every year?

[@KKandEV]

I pay the same now as I did 2 years ago. £2,500 inc Water and waste.

[@MaleehaAfzal-h2z]

can the lodge owner install solar panels / wind systems?

[@KKandEV]

The Lodge roof may not be strong enough but a call to a manufacturer like Sunseeker might be the way to find out.

[@RogerConnett]

I'm selling my park home but when I pay my yearly fees I've been told that when the new owner takes over they will have to pay thefull will have to pay the full fees again and mine will be scrubbed

[@KKandEV]

Then only pay for the time you are going to be there. That’s what we did when we sold. We paid per month.

[@Susan-c1q]

Hi. There, great informative video, we are looking to buy a mobile home. But worried which site to choose. We are over 55 , so we want a quiet place. Any suggestions would help us a lot thankyou.

[@KKandEV]

Thanks for the input Susan. Full Residential will cost you more in the long term with Council Rates AND Ground Rents together stacking up to large amounts per year. A 12 month permit site is cheaper but the grey area of not being able to officially stay there as you r full U.K. residency might be a put off. Just make sure you have a full UK address if you go for the 12 months site.

[@KKandEV]

Also.. get some idea of what the site owner is like from others already on there and go for the longest Ground contract you get find in years. A 20 is better than a 10 but again it’s all dictated on where in the Country you choose to buy and live.

[@Susan-c1q]

Hi again, tha you for the info. We keep doing our homework. A bit difficult as we are living in Bulgaria for the last 13 years, but we will keep plodding on.

[@peelyreg5005]

Hi, and thanks for your vids, I've watched everyone with great interest, but I'm in need of some advice please .......... I've just agreed to purchase a twin 'Holiday' lodge on a gorgeous site with outstanding views. It's a 10yr old unit which I'm purchasing from the owner, but. I was handed the site owners licence agreement, or lease agreement, and was surprised to find that it is only for 15yrs and runs out in 2039 ie15yrs time. I have spoken to the P.O. who explains, "Yes you wouldn't be allowed to sell it after that date!" The lodge has cost me nearly £200k and I'm very sceptical if the 2039 time could ever be extended, and at what cost? Sorry for the long question, but it will be decision time in the next week or so, and I'm now panicking a little! 🤔 Any advice would be very welcome.......

[@KKandEV]

Firstly the unit is yours once purchased so you can sell it “OFF SITE”. The issue being 25 year old units with no pitch are / will be pennies and a hard sell. If you are not buying the unit and it comes as a deal with the lease of the site pitch then yes..it’s not yours to sell as it will the site owners after your lease ends..CHECK WHAT IS ACTUALLY YOURS!!

[@peelyreg5005]

Yes I am purchasing direct from the current owner, the PO is obviously taking 10% commission, it's just the lease aspect and what happens in 15yrs time, do I just kiss goodbye to my £200k?@@KKandEV

[@KKandEV]

No… the unit in 15 years time may have lost two thirds of its value. No Lodges hold values over that amount of time as they age and become aged looking in comparison to new. I guess it’s down to your age and where you will be in 15 years?

[@dxkl410]

I have been looking into and researching buying a lodge and cannot understand why you would spend a high amount of money when after 20 years you have to replace it due to site demands . The guy on the video states the BS standard lodges last up to 50 years . I don’t think I’d be prepared to sacrifice up to and over 100 k only to be told you have to replace after 20 years . Maybe buy a cheap one . The whole industry needs regulating properly . Site owners have all the control . My advice to you is pull out whilst you can and go back to the drawing board .

[@KKandEV]

Not all Park owners will need or want you to replace the Lodge so that may not be something to worry about. If you are of a “certain age”, let’s say 65 plus , a 20 year ground lease with a newish unit will see you well into your 80’s if you are lucky to be alive and at around that age it’s not going to be much of a thing to worry about.

[@cyborgclarke]

I am moving back from the US after a divorce and was extremely happy about thinking I could buy a park home (2nd hand) for 30 or 40k however, with no permanent UK address or family now left in the UK sounds like it would be impossible for me to do this due to what was said about UK legal living whereas you must have another home to do so.

[@KKandEV]

Yes… the law is an Ass. A friend with a U.K. address could do it and then it becomes your main address. The site owner will definitely want one if only to cover his obligations of sale. It needs changing!!

[@cyborgclarke]

@@KKandEV Actually have a cunning plan. Perhaps 6 months before deciding to move back home rent one of those virtually UK addresses you can collect mail and use that as a UK address for the purpose of buying one of those homes. They be none the wiser I am sure.

[@GeriBrown-w9t]

All you need is someone friend/family member who will let you use there address. I know of a lot of people who live on a park who just do it this way. Also you will need to consider post, some parks won’t let you receive any so you would need an address for post to go to. Good luck.

[@annebm0692]

im thinking about this, so i can save money, is there any closer to London?

[@KKandEV]

I’m sure there would be. Don’t forget that price can be dictated by Location. Hope you find one.

[@BIG-NEB]

So why have you now sold and moved out? Also seems you sold another one recently?

[@KKandEV]

The latest post is my old neighbour’s unit who has decided to sell. Ours went Friday and Part 1 of why we sold should be up tomorrow on here👍🏻

[@KKandEV]

To add to my answer… the Council had come down on 3/4 owners who did not give or have a U.K. address of their own so letters were sent out and now they wait for what could be possible eviction or a change in Permit licence for them. The end of it all could be next month or even years away but as things are it just added to the ongoing worries of losing money as others started to sell up. Prices will go down super fast if the worst happens on sites.

[@BIG-NEB]

@@KKandEV I would like to speak to you about this. My mum is selling her house because she is losing so much money off the value due to equity release and she wants to move into a site that sounds EXACTLY like the issue you talk about. I will be moving onto same site too . Owners are fine with it but obviously we won't have another address either

[@plok1986]

Do you need to pay tv licence fee and how’s the internet in them .

[@KKandEV]

If you have another U.K. address and the Lodge is in your name then no. As we have my son as our main U.K. address we did just to cover the grey area.

[@KKandEV]

Internet is done by data sim.

[@markturner6755]

The ironic thing is the housing shortage in the UK. Allowing people to stay in these homes for 12 months would potentially free up a lot of the UK housing stock.

[@dawn5428]

Hi! Can I ask whether you need to be a uk citizen to buy one of these beautiful and peaceful park homes? Also, do you really need a UK address? Can it be a PO Box address?

[@KKandEV]

You do not have to be a U.K. Citizen to own / buy one as being from overseas you will not require a U.K. address. We as Citizens are not allowed to use a PO Box as it would be seen as trying to cheat the Tax system. It’s a ridiculous “grey” area which needs to be addressed by our Politicians with change.

[@donaldmcdiarmid8228]

If its a legal parkhome site it must be your main or only Address thats the law in the UK.

[@dawn5428]

@@KKandEVthank god for that, and I agree that they need to change laws the P.O. Box for citizens, as some people may have to sell their home, so where does that leave them? I have seen some homes like park homes, but with a permanent foundation. Those look like cottages but are called leisure homes. It’s much more affordable and better to live in one of those than in an actual brick&mortar home.

[@KKandEV]

@user-bellwilltryit I wouldn’t say it’s that harsh. Thousands of owners live in these for years with no question.

[@HonKarmanRebecca]

They didn’t have property deed ?

[@KKandEV]

You don’t get property deeds with Park homes.

[@nousername454]

ADVICE with a ‘c’

[@KKandEV]

Hey… sometimes I rush!!👍🏻

[@karensteele278]

Don't pay council tax. 😀 You pay more from the ground rent. Extortionate.😂

[@KKandEV]

Some do, some don’t. The Ground Rent here is £2,500 a year that includes all Water ( that averages £600 a year in a house). Also a supply of a Skip for ANY trash / rubbish , CCTV Security and communal grounds being tendered.

[@darrendurkin9308]

Seems like a nice bloke but should make sure he knows what he is talking about before posting.

[@KKandEV]

What did I miss out?

[@ROAR-le1bt]

Im 17 and because of the price of living going up Ive been looking at staying in a park instead of getting an apartment but im not sure if its a good idea🥲

[@KKandEV]

On your own at 17 it will not be any cheaper and less secure than a proper Landlord. If you were sharing with 2/3 others then maybe.