Q and A after the debate, Mawlana Asrar (Sunni) vs Abdur Rahman (Wahabi)

[@ismailsalawu700]

"You alone we worship and you alone we ask for help"- Surah Fathia verse 5

[@qureshib61]

Then why do you go to mechanic to fix your car? Why have a job to earn money? Visit Doctor for medical help? Sit with a teacher for learning? Call ambulance if you think your having a heart attack? Visit Shops for buying food? Whats your response to this???

[@qureshib61]

Then why do you go to mechanic to fix your car? Why have a job to earn money? Visit Doctor for medical help? Sit with a teacher for learning? Call ambulance if you think your having a heart attack? Visit Shops for buying food? Whats your response to this???

[@theindubitable]

Doesn't make sense, why do you ask doctor for help then?

[@amraahadams9898]

​@@qureshib61they aren't DEAD .

[@amraahadams9898]

​@@qureshib61the whole point of the video was to prove that we cannot call upon Dead people for help.

[@AM-ny7rz]

Yea, I made Taubah as well after watching this debate not to call upon anyone but Allah. Make dua for my parents 😢

[@asfmus.07]

It is related from Anas, "If there was a drought, 'Umar ibn al-Khattab would askal-'Abbas ibn 'Abdu'l-Muttalib to do the rain prayer. He would say, 'O Allah we would seek intercession with You by Your Prophet and we would ask you for rain, now we seek intercession with You by the uncle of our Prophet, so give us rain!'" He added, "And they were given rain." (Sahih Bukhari Book:Al istasqa Chapter: Suaal An Nas Al Imam Alistasqa iza Qahatu Page : 245 Hadith number:1010) It was narrated from 'Uthman bin Hunaif that a blind man came to the Prophet (Peace be upon him) and said: "Pray to Allah to heal me." He said: "If you wish to store your reward for the Hereafter, that is better, or if you wish, I will supplicate for you." He said: "Supplicate." So he told him to perform ablution and do it well, to pray two Rak'ah, and to say this supplication: "Allahumma lnni as'aluka wa atawajjahu ilaika bimuhammadin nabiyyir-rahma. Ya Muhammadu inni qad tawajjahtu bika ila rabbi fi hajati hadhihi lituqda. Allahumma fashaffi’hu fiya (O Allah, I ask of You and I turn my face towards You by virtue of the intercession of Muhammad the Prophet of mercy. O Muhammad, I have turned to my Lord by virtue of your intercession concerning this need of mine so that it may be met. O Allah, accept his intercession concerning me)" (Tirmidhī in al-Jami-us-sahīh, book of da‘awat (supplications) ch.119 (5:569#3578) where he declared it "HASAN SAHIH GHARIB") (Ibn Majah transmitted it in his Sunan, book of Iqamat al-salat wa al-sunnat (establishing prayer and its sunnahs)[Page 197, Hadith No#1385) Malik ad-Dar i.e. treasurer of Umar (RA) relates: The people were gripped by famine during the tenure of Umar (Ibn-ul-Khattab). Then a man walked up to the grave of Prophet and said: O Messenger of Allah! ask for rain from Allah for your Ummah who is in dire straits. Then he saw the Prophet (SAW) in dream. The Prophet (SAW) said to him, Go over to Umar, give him my regards and tell him that the rain will come to you. And tell Umar that he should be on his toes, he should be on his toes (he should remain alert). He went over to see Umar and passed on to him the tidings. On hearing this, Umar broke into a spurt of crying. He said, O Allah, I exert myself to the full until I am completely exhausted. References ►Al-Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah Volume 011, Page No. 118, Hadith This Hadith is authenticated as **Sahih** by ►Imam Ibn Kathir in Al Bidayah Wan Nihayah Volume No. 5, Page No. 167 ►Imam Qastallani in al-Mawahib-ul-laduniyyah (4:276) ► Ibn-e-Taymiya in Fi-Iqtida-as-Sirat-il-Mustaqim (Vol.1, Page 373) Abu Nu’aym related to us who said that Sufyan related to us from Abu Ishaq from Abdur Rahman ibn Sa’d, who said Ibn Umar had numbness in his leg, whereupon a man said to him Remember the most beloved of people to you, so he said: “Ya Muhammad” Reference ►Imam Bukhari, Kitab ul Adab ul Mufrad, Page No. 404, Hadith # 964 Mullah Ali Qari رَحِمَهُ الله said: Ibn Umar (رضي الله عنه ) expressed his love in the form of "ISTIGHATHA (SEEKING HELP)" [Mullah Ali Qari: Sharh ash-Shifa (2/41)] Narrated `Umar: The Prophet said: "When Adam committed his mistake he said: O my Lord, I am asking you to forgive me for the sake of Muhammad. Allah said: O Adam, and how do you know about Muhammad whom I have not yet created? Adam replied, O my Lord, after You created me with your hand and breathed into me of Your Spirit, I raised my head and saw written on the heights of the Throne: "LA ILAHA ILLALLAH MUHAMMADUR RASULULLAH" I understood that You would not place next to Your Name but the Most Beloved One of Your creation. Allah said: O Adam, I have forgiven you, and were it not for Muhammad I would not have created you." It was transmitted through many chains and was cited by Bayhaqi (in Dala'il al-nubuwwa), Abu Nu`aym (in Dala'il al-nubuwwa), al-Hakim in al-Mustadrak (2:615), al-Tabarani in his Saghir (2:82, 207) with another chain containing sub-narrators unknown to Haythami as he stated in Majma` al-zawa'id (8:253), and Ibn `Asakir on the authority of `Umar ibn al-Khattab, and most of these narrations were copied in Qastallani's al-Mawahib al-laduniyya (and al-Zarqani's Commentary 2:62). This hadith is declared sound (sahih) by al-Hakim in al-Mustadrak (2:651, Hadith No. 4228)

[@faizahmed8076]

Alhamdulillah

[@spreaderofalhaqq]

if you have a broken arm dont ask anyone for help but ask Allah alone for help and do nothing - salafi logic

[@faizahmed8076]

@@spreaderofalhaqq not differentiating between seeking means and calling out in Dua, which is a form of worship. Not differentiating between telling a live doctor to give u medicines and calling out " Yaa ghouse madad". Not understanding what they recite in surah fatiha in every prayer. "" You Alone we worship and You Alone we ask for help"....... Biddati Barelwi logic.

[@AM-ny7rz]

@@spreaderofalhaqq allahu akbar, are you really that stupid

[@luk1430i]

The Quran clearly showed us how all the prophets called to Allah alone at their times of struggle.

[@alisomalia7246]

Because they were at the time the highest ranked human on earth

[@luk1430i]

+ali Somalia exactly. Then the correct thing to do is follow them. أُولٰئِكَ الَّذينَ هَدَى اللَّهُ ۖ فَبِهُدىٰهُمُ اقتَدِه ۗ قُل لا أَسـَٔلُكُم عَلَيهِ أَجرًا ۖ إِن هُوَ إِلّا ذِكرىٰ لِلعٰلَمينَ These are they whom Allah guided, therefore follow their guidance. Say: I do not ask you for any reward for it; it is nothing but a reminder to the nations.

[@sayedimraanbasha6331]

TELL UR SHAIK ABDUR REHMAN TO FOLLOW THE PROPHETS, COZ HE ACCEPTS ASKING THE PROPHETS HELP IN DUA WHILST THEY ALIVE AS PERMISSABLE. BUT YOU SAY OTHERWISE EH? SILLY WAHABIS.

[@sayedimraanbasha6331]

BUT SALAFI ABDUR REHMAN SAYS YOU CAN CALL ON A PROPHET TO HELP YOU AT THE TIME OF STRUGGLE, ONLY IF THE PROPHET IS ALIVE.YOU NOW HAVE A DEAD SHIRK AND A LIVE SHIRK ! I GUES YOU PREFER NEITHER. PLEASE TALK TO ABDUR REHMAN ABOUT THIS, YOU JUST SENT HIM TO JAHANNUM YOU JAHIL..

[@luk1430i]

+Sayed Imraan Basha No need to right in capital letters Iike u r shouting. Hhhhh Could you refer to parts of Abdulrhahmans speech where he said what u r claiming so I can respond ?

[@rehanzamindar6533]

Are Muslims debating upon permissibility of calling upon any body other than Allah?? May Allah protect.

[@omark7164]

So you have never said “Oh mother, help me with something”?

[@rehanzamindar6533]

@@omark7164 Be mindful of Allah, and He will teach you when and whom to call. May Allah protect and forgive our mothers. Jazakallahu khairan

[@omark7164]

@@rehanzamindar6533 Doesn’t answer my question. If you say that asking someone other than Allah, than by your logic, it is shirk to ask your mother.

[@rehanzamindar6533]

@@omark7164 Are you in doubt that you have only one Creator?

[@omark7164]

@@rehanzamindar6533 No. La ilaha illa Allah. Now answer the question.

[@karimshah8535]

May Allah guide all of us to haqq!

[@Dhikr-Dua-Salawat-Taweez]

Which is the haqq here ?

[@asmatjan.sheena4348]

@@Dhikr-Dua-Salawat-Taweez AUSTAAD ABDUR RAHMAAN.....

[@Dhikr-Dua-Salawat-Taweez]

@@asmatjan.sheena4348 oh he is a deviant Wahaabi guy

[@asmatjan.sheena4348]

@@Dhikr-Dua-Salawat-Taweez what is your problem with him... None your own business....ok

[@lionheart6848]

@@asmatjan.sheena4348 yes he is on the haqq

[@Skengmansej]

The title of this video is incorrect..

[@WiseEyes313]

Defo. Not all Sunnis have his belief. He is a barelvi. Misguided

[@ahmedmahboub2199]

@@WiseEyes313 ashari*

[@IbnSharif]

@@ahmedmahboub2199 It should be Sunni (AbdulRahman) vs Barelvi or Sufi (Asrar)

[@ahmedmahboub2199]

@@IbnSharif ashari*

[@ahmedmahboub2199]

ashari = sunni by the way

[@abdullahibade2464]

The title is misleading, Asrar is a Brelvi Sufi not a Sunni

[@zeeshanalibilgarami2318]

Barelvi sufi is not a sect. Baraily is a place were Sunni imam Ahmad raza is from. It's just that many Asian Sunni called them self barelvy out of their love and respect for the Work Imam Ahmad raza did for the Sunni sect

[@IbnSharif]

A proper title would be Sunni Vs Sufi. This guy lost the debate so bad the only response he has is to keep on spreading the embarrassing lie about an invented sect called “wahabism” to try to use an ad hominem (sad personal attacks because you know you can’t win the debate) to distract people from the truth this brother is speaking. Wahabi is a term Shia, Sufi etc try to use to paint an image in people’s head about a person that’s speaking the pure truth from clear evidences. Not some baseless mumbo jumbo Sufis preach. The prophet (saw) fought and suffered his whole life for La Ilaha Ila Alllah. And today people claim to be “Sunnis” while categorically going against the sunnah subhanAllah. May Allah guide us all 🤲🏾❤️

[@jamesjoe2399]

@@IbnSharif the debate went over your head. Ustad embarrass himself by literally making up a condition which he couldn’t back with the Quran and sunnah. Also he has insulted Allah by his condition because he deems death as the criteria for something to be associated with Allah because he considers this “ shirk” to be ok when the person is alive but it becomes shirk ( associating partners with Allah) when the person is dead. Astagfurllah only the biggest of amongst ignorant would think abdul Rahman won this

[@CEO786]

MashAllah Shaykh Asrar Rashid may he be preserved and be rewarded abundantly.

[@jtb229]

@@IbnSharif The 4 imams all did it, with imam an Nawawi

[@mdrasid007]

I am with Wahabi,ie calling upon Allah alone.

[@Randomhandlename]

*Allahu akbar*

[@sayyeddawood7849]

Really brother... Then on the day of hashr don't take help of Prophet Muhammad salallahu alahi wassalam for jannah

[@mdrasid007]

@@sayyeddawood7849 we ask Allah alone in this dunyaa and we will ask Allah alone on the day of judgment, In sha Allah, may Allah subhanahu wa taa'la protect us from shirk and biddah khurafat.

[@sayyeddawood7849]

@@mdrasid007 if you personally ask me then I just pray to Allah alone ask Allah alone for things but I also take waseela of Prophet.. I guess there's nothing wrong in seeking waseela

[@mdrasid007]

@@sayyeddawood7849 don't guess but be sure and confident.

[@adnanabdull4h]

It is clear that the Asrar Rashid is misguided. You can literally see the doubt on his face. It should be titled Mawlana Asrar (Barelvi) vs Abdur Rahman (Sunni).

[@Sheen023]

Diggers of the blessed grave are not Sunni

[@tayeebhussain5014]

You're just jealous that asrar rashid is very knowledgeable and too make yourself feel better about yourself you're trying to claim shaykh asrar is misguided.

[@abh6968]

@@tayeebhussain5014 lol asrar is a fool .

[@mohammedshuaibiqbal5469]

Then let me ask you a question then. Tell me who created diseases? Now tell me who gives shifa? If your answer is Allah. Then why do you visit doctors for your ailments. You should ask Allah to cure it as he is the creator of diseases and he is the one who gives you shifa from it. You cannot run away. First learn Islam from those who are successful. The best way is to learn from Allah's Friends the ones who are actually his friends. Not your wahan najdi.

[@mohammedhayat8266]

so what if Allah swt made doctors etc and put the knowledge in their heads to administer a cure to disease? Stop with your nonsense. Of course we pray to Allah swt that doesn’t mean ignore the cure or assistance/benefits that’s provided in human form. Next time you’re in pain, don’t take medication. You just pray to Allah yeah? Allah has created all this for you to make use of.

[@arehmansaleem5242]

Sheikh Asrar may Allah bless you with great blessings

[@MrMkn1991]

A tiny minority among Muslims called Wahhabis are trying to win lost debate through keyboard war. It was debate about permissibility of calling Prophet (saww) , Dumb Wahhabis, Non of them said don't ask directly to Allah azzawajal. Doesn't matter how much lowly propaganda you make against Ahlus Sunnah and its beliefs, you will remain a tiny minority, even smaller then Shia Rafidis in numbers.

[@ion5758]

How are you going to call yourself ahlul sunnah when your aqeedah is not built upon the sunnah and Quran

[@bright7913]

@@ion5758 how are you going to call yourself ahlul sunnah when you (and your aqeedah) didnt expist prior 200 years?

[@ion5758]

@@bright7913 Athari aqeedah didn't exist prior to 200 years? You're so lost

[@bright7913]

@@ion5758 ibn qudama was athari, you are not

[@ion5758]

@bright7913 what am I? Wahabbi, salafi, najdi? There's no difference. You people just have a problem with name calling.

[@joshrentos216]

Is the host the guy from the “5 pillars” KZbin channel?

[@alpicwnel]

Abdul Rahman is not wahabi, pls stop labeling each other...

[@jamesjoe2399]

Yes he is. His opinion that asking the dead to make dua for you is like associating them with Allah is a Najidi dawah view point.

[@alpicwnel]

@@jamesjoe2399 it is safer to ask directly to Allah (tawassul by using 99 Allah's name/ asma'ul husna)

[@naved518]

@@alpicwnel Yes, I definitely agreed with you, why should anyone take risk of SHIRK. Always Call ALLAH FOR EVERYTHING. ✔👍

[@al-quran8349]

@@jamesjoe2399 it's not a "najdi" view, it's a view of the Sahaba, the tabieen and taba'tabieen and the 4 imams.

[@greentube1357]

​@@al-quran8349 they did but ur skeik al bani weaken it

[@syedmiah45]

What I don’t understand is that those people who claim to love Prophet saw don’t mention much about Allah sbw and also don’t follow prophet saw in his looks and instead do opposite . If they were deeply in love with a prophet saw then they would have done even the recommended stuff let alone only compulsory acts . Just saying love with mouth don’t probe anything . Actions speak louder than words

[@Cricketers.United]

Syed Miah this is just silly. The one who mentions the prophet sallalahu alaih Wsalam is automatically praising Allah. For he is Allah’s greatest creation. If you are an artist and you have a master piece, then someone comes and tells you, you are a great artist. That’s fine you accept it but it’s not a big deal you already know this... but if someone comes to you and tells you how great your masterpiece is and describes all of its details and beautifies it further, you will automatically take that as ultimate praise. This is the simplest answer to your statements.

[@ubaidshah1910]

Sultan AbdulHamid praising muhammad=\= praising God. Put down the sahih kool aid and use the quran in conjunction with your brain

[@Cricketers.United]

@@ubaidshah1910 how about you use your common sense. i will praise the Prophet Sallalahu Alaihi wasalam day and night whilst you burn over it. Allah swt commands in the Quran to praise the prophet Sallalahu Alaihi Wasalam. so i will do as Allah commands. masalaama.

[@raptorhacker599]

@@Cricketers.United lol grave worshipper thinks worshipping creation is worshipping Allah.

[@WiseEyes313]

Please don’t just label him “Sunni”. Not all Sunnis have his belief. He is a barelvi. Misguided

[@SNIPERS327]

Ustadh Abdul Rehman thank you for representing the real sunnis.

[@yorkshiremotorhouse6945]

You mean wahabis

[@faizahmed8076]

All the prophets came with one Dawah... CALL UPON ALLAH ALONE.. thats TAWHEED.

[@ahmedburhan-mk2lk]

As Simple as abc

[@mehmoodahmed2110]

Problems are created when people put they own word in Quran and hadith

[@nadjiguemarful]

So youre against all tafasirs?

[@youssefm9838]

Al hamdoullilah I found myself a salafi after this debate, baarak Allaah fiek ustaadh abdurrahmaan hassan from Morocco

[@habibiqbal250]

Masha allah long live asrar rashid and his love, respect and honour for Prophet Muhammad SAW

[@josephmiles3077]

Whoever put this is lying not only was asrar absolutely wrong and his aqeeda isnt that of a sunni muslium but the very thing he was trying to justify was already proven incorrect by so many ayaat and the prophet muhammad PBUH. To say otherwise would be lunacy and not of islam

[@hajro2273]

@TheHaroon786786 than you obviously didnt watch the debate because the " wahabi " explained the errors and weaknesses in this narration according to some scholars like ibn hajar al asqalani.

[@ef4768]

Agreed.

[@AA-bh5zg]

Are brelwis in the UK too? I thought they were only in Pakistan and India due to them not being educated.

[@fahadfarooqui2505]

They are not barelwi they are ahle sunnah wal jamah with certain points unclear to both sects , which they are having this debate and i from my side would conclude that this type of debate will work is more unlikely, it should not be in peoples eye because if there are errors the person watching hearing would simply believe that part even if it is wrong and by that time over books of deeds will be marked as fail including the one who made errors and who followed

[@faisaliqbal6322]

They are majority in UK.

[@isrargulzar5069]

The wahabis think barewlis are uneducated becuze their ulema come from Medina university.... AHLE SUNNAH ULEMA COME FROM Damascus and egypt all over. Ahles Sunnah is not only Pakistanis they from all over. We only don't do mawlid in uk and Pakistan. There is Muslims all over the world is doing it. Wahabi salafi Ahle hadith ikwanno wateba u wana call them are very miniority. They have control of two holy mosques it doesn't make them correct.

[@jatt0092pk]

@@isrargulzar5069 your braviley not ahle sunnah keep in mind you are jhail

[@mohdazhar5443]

Sunni Muslim governed makkaha and madina till 19 century, all Turkish people are Sunnis and we are proud to be sunni.

[@Islom-Bu-Hayot]

I don't understand the point of debating between Muslims. What is the point? It's just making Muslims divide. May Allah Guide us to the straight path and make us steadfast in His deen.

[@mohammedshafiq6480]

YA ALLAH ALONE

[@go10965videos]

Mohammed Shafiq what do you read in tashahud

[@walid-mq6zo]

Narrated Anas: Whenever there was drought, 'Umar bin Al-Khattab used to ask Allah for rain through Al'Abbas bin 'Abdul Muttalib, saying, "O Allah! We used to request our Prophet to ask You for rain, and You would give us. Now we request the uncle of our Prophet to ask You for rain, so give us rain." And they would be given rain."

[@thephantomterence9211]

noahj 457 I read all acts of worships are exclusively for Allah (SWT) Wasalaawaatu - and prayers are for Him Watayyibaatu - which are pure Then ask Allah (SWT) to send His peace upon Rasoolullah SAW And mercy upon him.... and upon the rightly guided servants of Allah (SWT) Etc...

[@go10965videos]

@@thephantomterence9211 Al-Tahiyyaatu Lillaahi wa’l-salawaatu wa’l-tayyibaat. Al-salaamu ‘alayka ayyuha’l-Nabiyyu wa rahmat-Allaahi wa barakaatuhu. Al-salaamu ‘alaynaa wa ‘ala ‘ibaad-illaah il-saaliheen. Ash-hadu an laa ilaaha ill-Allaah wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan ‘abduhu wa rasooluh (All compliments, prayers and pure words are due to Allaah. Peace be upon you, O Prophet, and the mercy of Allaah and His blessings. Peace be upon us and upon the righteous slaves of Allaah. I bear witness that there is no god except Allaah and I bear witness that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger).

[@go10965videos]

@@thephantomterence9211 when we say " Al-salaamu ‘alayka ayyuha’l-Nabiyyu wa rahmat-Allaahi wa barakaatuhu", we are saying "O", O Prophet, meaning Ya Nabi. Muslims read it daily, so is it shirk?

[@haroondabbagh2869]

Don’t let the title mislead you. He’s not wahabi

[@Oooooooo797]

😂 they call every salafi a wahabi every salafi is a Sunni

[@Makachev01]

@@Oooooooo79780% is wahhabi. Real Hanbali scholars live in Egypt most of them

[@Mazehified]

​@@Makachev01 Jij die de term Wahabi gebruikt, duid aan dat jij tegen de Sunnah gaat, want Wahab is een van de namen van Allah (Wahaab) Jij moet Tawbah verrichten en alleen Allah سبحانه وتعالى aanbidden en alleen aan Hem hulp vragen.

[@Makachev01]

@@Mazehified jij hebt er dus geen kaas van gegeten als jij denkt dat ik hier Allah ermee bedoel. Jij bent helemaal niemand om tegen mij te zeggen om Tawba te verrichten. Jij gelooft waarschijnlijk dat Allah ledematen heeft en letterlijk zit op een stoel en heen en weer beweegt. Vrees Allah, aoudhu billah! Muhammad ibn Abdulwahhab wordt niet erkend als geleerde in de Hanbali madhab, heeft alleen maar fitna gezaaid en tig mensen uitgemoord. Heeft een stroming ontwikkeld en de Hanbali madhab gekaapt en de geboorte van de Saudische leer was een feit. Zijn vader heeft hem uit de madrasah gekickt en zelfs zijn eigen broer heeft een boek over hem geschreven! De term Wahhabi wordt gebruikt door hen zelf! Open de geschiedenis boeken, lees het voor je zelf. Dit zijn historische feiten, geen aannames

[@Makachev01]

@@Mazehified Als jij denkt dat ik Allah hiermee bedoel, heb jij er letterlijk geen kaas van gegeten. Jij bent helemaal niemand om tegen mij te zeggen om Tawba te verrichten. Waarschijnlijk geloof jij dat Allah ledematen heeft, letterlijk op een stil zit en heen en weer beweegt. Vrees Allah! Aoudbu bilah! Volg eerst de soennitische leer en de klassieke geleerden voordat je zo’n uitspraak maakt. MIAW is geen geleerde, wordt ook helemaal niet erkend in de Hanbali school. Heeft alleen maar fitna gezaaid, tig mensen uitgemoord en wordt bestempeld als khariji door grote ullema! Zijn eigen vader heeft hem uit de madrasah gekickt en zijn broer heeft een heel boek over hem geschreven! Weet jij wel wie MIAW is en wie de Saudische staat zijn? De Wahhabi movement zijn Khwarij! De “Salafi/Saudische” leer is van uit daar ontstaan! LEES EEN BOEK Dit zijn historische feiten, geen aannames. Sta open om de geschiedenis te lezen zodat Allah je, met zijn Wil zal leiden. Reageer niet op mij want ik ga niet met je discussiëren. Ik zal op je antwoordt niet reageren en ik zal het ook niet lezen. Jij weet niet waar je het over, ook met je “alleen Allah om hulp vragen”. Je hebt geen kennis en bent de moeite niet waard. Ik raad je het boek “Wahhabism: The History of a Militant Islamic Movement van academicus Cole Bunzel aan als je oprecht geïnteresseerd bent en van een onafhankelijke bron wilt lezen.

[@mdrasid007]

I dont find any dua in the Quran and hadees of the prophet pbuh where it ask dua to other than Allah or any persons wasila.If you have any please inform me.

[@mdrasid007]

@TheHaroon786786 if why the prophet never ever took the"wasila" of any other prophets such as Ibrahim AS in making Dua to Allah ?Neither Quran teaches us to supplicate to other than Allah.Why there is no evidence of such kind of supplications in the Quran but the opposite does exists Abunduntly.

[@MrRiz157]

@@mdrasid007 because The Prophet (pbuh) is the closest to Allah. However there is evidence that other Prophets(pbuh) gave the wasila of the Prophet (pbuh).

[@mdrasid007]

@@MrRiz157 can you quote it here, please

[@thirdocean3784]

“it is declared in the 15th âyat of Sûrat al-Qassass: “People of his tribe did istighâtha from him against the enemy.” A hadîth sherîf says: “They will do istighâtha from Âdam ‘’alaihis-salâm’ at the place of the Mahshar.” A hadîth sherîf quoted in al-Hisn al-hasîn, says: “He who needs help should say, ‘O Allâhu ta’âlâ’s slaves! Help me!’ ” This hadîth sherîf commands us to call for help from someone not near us.”(al-Usûl-ul-arba’a fî-terdîd-il-wahhâbiyya)

[@mdrasid007]

@@thirdocean3784 Al Qasas ayat 15:And he entered the city at a time of inattention by its people and found therein two men fighting: one from his faction and one from among his enemy. And the one from his faction called for help to him against the one from his enemy, so Moses struck him and [unintentionally] killed him. [Moses] said, "This is from the work of Satan. Indeed, he is a manifest, misleading enemy." Where did you get the impression that one made dua to Mosses ?Didnt Mosses present at the sopt of the incident?Do you have any intelect?

[@ef4768]

The “wahabbi” Is upon the sunnah and the other is not. The title is misleading.

[@londonitv902]

Narrated Ibn `Umar: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Sham! O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Yemen." The People said, "And also on our Najd." He said, "O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Sham (north)! O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Yemen." The people said, "O Allah's Apostle! And also on our Najd." I think the third time the Prophet (ﷺ) said, "There (in Najd) is the place of earthquakes and afflictions and from there comes out the side of the head of Satan." Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab was a religious leader and theologian from Najd in central arabia who founded the movement now called wahhabism

[@user-gl2wf6ex6k]

Search up “horn of satan” by Abu Mussab. He brings evidences about what this hadith means.

[@londonitv902]

@@user-gl2wf6ex6k abu mussab a pseudo salafi, wahabi nojdi, follower of abdul ibn wahab nojdi satan AKA the muslim killer, like yazid.

[@ibnnader8373]

najd here is referring to iraq, not central arabia 🤦‍♂️watch abu mussabs lecture about this. he brings up evidences

[@nasirabdiwahid2942]

So asking الله سبحانه وتعالى alone makes one Wahhabi. للهl الله أكبر.

[@londonitv902]

@@nasirabdiwahid2942 asking allah alone makes you a muslim. asking a question like that sound a bit like playing the victim card to me. victims are the people abdul wahab nojdi killed.

[@syedshabazs1036]

Love it when Asrar sees the flaw in Abdur Rahman's statements, Eyes that light up.

[@IslamTheRightWay10]

asrar could not mention 1 from the salaf that allowed istighatha from the prophet after he died.

[@noorhassan4361]

IslamTheRightWay10 lol he mentioned loads watch like the last half an hour . The Salafi couldn't and field all he could provide was salafi secondary sources of ibn tayimah

[@thirdocean3784]

“it is declared in the 15th âyat of Sûrat al-Qassass: “People of his tribe did istighâtha from him against the enemy.” A hadîth sherîf says: “They will do istighâtha from Âdam ‘’alaihis-salâm’ at the place of the Mahshar.” A hadîth sherîf quoted in al-Hisn al-hasîn, says: “He who needs help should say, ‘O Allâhu ta’âlâ’s slaves! Help me!’ ” This hadîth sherîf commands us to call for help from someone not near us.”(al-Usûl-ul-arba’a fî-terdîd-il-wahhâbiyya)

[@samsamali2839]

The title of the video is so wrong, on many levels... reverts, or people with no knowledge of this will think the sunnah is the way of the one you described on the video, and wahabi is not a part of the "sunni/sunnah" based on this title... when in all realness abdul wahab preached tawheed/the Oneness of Allah, from the quran and SUNNAH/hadiths. May Allah guide us ameen.

[@europeanguy6516]

Ok, so protecting the sunnah of rasulallah sallallahu alaihi wa sallam and loving the dīn of Allah makes you wahhabi. lol

[@Spottedapnaviral]

What makes u a wahabi is following a ideology from ibn wahab the same man that sold himself to the secret societies he's also from najd

[@innocentfriend]

When you follow mohammad bin abdul wahab. They call you wahabi. Not mohammadi and when they follow ahmad raza khan. They are not raza khani. Theese arrogants are still sunni.

[@mannysafdar]

@@Spottedapnaviral and i suppose you have evidence of Muhammed ibn Abdul Wahhaab selling himself to "secret societies"? Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhaab was both a fellow human being and a fellow Muslim. As such, he has the right to be studied in an impartial and objective manner. That is, he has the right to a “fair trial.” No matter how much one may oppose his teachings, one does not have the right to wrong him. Indeed, the Prophet (PBUH) has warned, “Wrongdoing [shall be] darkness on the Day of Resurrection.” (Recorded by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) When speaking about another person, such as ibn Abdul Wahhaab or his followers, one should remember the Prophet’s teaching, “All of a Muslim is inviolable to every other Muslim, with respect to his blood, wealth and honor.” (Recorded by Muslim.) One must also be cautious of the Prophet’s warning, “Beware of the supplication of the wronged for between him and Allah there is no barrier.” (Recorded by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) Even if one wants to argue that ibn Abdul Wahhaab and his followers are not to be considered Muslims, one should be wary of speaking untruths about them, so it is upto you who has made this claim of him being sold to secret societies to prove it with evidence. May Allah protect anf guide us all to the straight path...Ameen

[@Basit7729]

@@Spottedapnaviral we only follow quran and sunnah.. U barelvis are more close to shias than sunnis

[@Basit7729]

@TheHaroon786786 nice joke...stop doing biddat then

[@faizahmed8076]

"And they worship besides Allah things that hurt them not, nor profit them, and they say: "These are our intercessors with Allah.' Say: 'Do you inform Allah of that which He knows not in the heavens and on the earth?' Glorified and Exalted be He above all that which they associate as partners with Him! Mankind were but one community (i.e. on one religion - Islamic Monotheism), then they differed (later), and had not it been for a Word that went forth before from your Lord, it would have been settled between them regarding what they differed" [Yoonus 10:18, 19] More than one of the scholars has clearly stated that what some of the ignorant Muslims do of focusing their devotion on graves is the essence of what the earlier mushrikeen used to do. Ar-Raazi (may Allah have mercy on him) said in his commentary on the verse from Soorat Yoonus quoted above, explaining the explanations that the mushrikeen gave for their worship of idols: And other scholars of salaf also said that they made these idols and statues in the image of their Prophets and great men, and claimed that if they devoted themselves to worshipping these statues, those great men would be intercessors for them with Allah, may He be exalted. The equivalent to that in our own times is the devotion of many people to venerating the graves of great men, in the belief that if they venerate their graves, they will intercede for them with Allah. Taken from mafateeh al ghaib. Allah knows best.

[@WiseEyes313]

Please don’t just label him “Sunni”. Not all Sunnis have his belief. He is a barelvi.

[@WiseEyes313]

@Qasim Mughal - huh? they’ve labelled the barelvi guy as Sunni. Sunni is a broad term and not all Sunnis hold these barelvis beliefs

[@akpsmaths5929]

@@WiseEyes313 Barelvi is mainstream sunni Islam aka Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaat. The enemies of Imam Ahmed Rida Khan Rahimahullah spread lies about 'Barelvis'. Besides, Shaykh Asrar is not barelvi, he studied in Syria. He sits in gatherings of Barelvis sometimes because they are Sunni, and he defends Sunni beliefs, which are the same as Barelvi beliefs.

[@faizahmed8076]

"And those who take Auliya (protectors and helpers) besides Him (say): "We worship them only that they may bring us near to Allah." Verily, Allah will judge between them concerning that wherein they differ. Truly, Allah guides not him who is a liar, and a disbeliever." [az-Zumar 39:3] "And they worship besides Allah things that hurt them not, nor profit them, and they say: 'These are our intercessors with Allah.' Say: 'Do you inform Allah of that which He knows not in the heavens and on the earth?' Glorified and Exalted be He above all that which they associate as partners with Him! Mankind were but one community (i.e. on one religion - Islamic Monotheism), then they differed (later), and had not it been for a Word that went forth before from your Lord, it would have been settled between them regarding what they differed" [Yoonus 10:18, 19]

[@mominmuslim9106]

No, title is wrong . Sufi mushrik vs sunni muslim .

[@zahinelahi2655]

Change your name from momin muslim to momin mujassim

[@recklessroyals]

Asrar Rashid is clearly misguided and trying to add 'Shirq' in Aqidah. To established his intention he is using prophet Muhammad SW's name! Alhamdulillah, in this debate he failed miserably. And thanks to brother Abdur Rahman for his deep knowledge and logic. Alhamdulillah.

[@ahmedmahboub2199]

وَمَا أَرْسَلْنَا مِن رَّسُولٍ إِلَّا لِيُطَاعَ بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ ۚ وَلَوْ أَنَّهُمْ إِذ ظَّلَمُوا أَنفُسَهُمْ جَاءُوكَ فَاسْتَغْفَرُوا اللَّهَ وَاسْتَغْفَرَ لَهُمُ الرَّسُولُ لَوَجَدُوا اللَّهَ تَوَّابًا رَّحِيمًا (64 تعالى : ( وما أرسلنا من رسول إلا ليطاع ) أي : فرضت طاعته على من أرسله إليهم وقوله : ( بإذن الله ) قال مجاهد : أي لا يطيع أحد إلا بإذني . يعني : لا يطيعهم إلا من وفقته لذلك ، كقوله : ( ولقد صدقكم الله وعده إذ تحسونهم بإذنه ) [ آل عمران : 52 ] أي : عن أمره وقدره ومشيئته ، وتسليطه إياكم عليهم . وقوله : ( ولو أنهم إذ ظلموا أنفسهم جاؤوك فاستغفروا الله واستغفر لهم الرسول لوجدوا الله توابا رحيما ) يرشد تعالى العصاة والمذنبين إذا وقع منهم الخطأ والعصيان أن يأتوا إلى الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم فيستغفروا الله عنده ، ويسألوه أن يستغفر لهم ، فإنهم إذا فعلوا ذلك تاب الله عليهم ورحمهم وغفر لهم ، ولهذا قال : ( لوجدوا الله توابا رحيما ) وقد ذكر جماعة منهم : الشيخ أبو نصر بن الصباغ في كتابه " الشامل " الحكاية المشهورة عن العتبي ، قال : كنت جالسا عند قبر النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم ، فجاء أعرابي فقال : السلام عليك يا رسول الله ، سمعت الله يقول : ( ولو أنهم إذ ظلموا أنفسهم جاؤوك فاستغفروا الله واستغفر لهم الرسول لوجدوا الله توابا رحيما ) وقد جئتك مستغفرا لذنبي مستشفعا بك إلى ربي ثم أنشأ يقول : يا خير من دفنت بالقاع أعظمه فطاب من طيبهن القاع والأكم نفسي الفداء لقبر أنت ساكنه فيه العفاف وفيه الجود والكرم ثم انصرف الأعرابي فغلبتني عيني ، فرأيت النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم في النوم فقال : يا عتبي ، الحق الأعرابي فبشره أن الله قد غفر له . The Almighty: (And we did not send a messenger except to obey) that is, his obedience was imposed on those who sent him to them and his saying: (God willing) Mujahid said: That is, no one obeys except with my permission. Meaning: He does not obey them except by those who have complied with it, such as his saying: (And God has believed and promised you when you feel for them with his permission) [Al-Imran: 52] That is, about his command, his destiny, and his will, and his authority over them. And his saying: (And if they had wronged themselves, they came to you, and sought forgiveness from God and the Messenger of forgiveness for them, they would have found God to be merciful.) May God have mercy on them and forgive them. That is why he said: (Let us find God merciful and repentant) A group of them mentioned: Sheikh Abu Nasr bin Al-Sabbagh in his book "Al-Shamil" the famous story on the authority of Al-Atabi. He said: I was sitting at the grave of the Prophet, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, and an Arab came and said: Peace be upon you, O Messenger of God. They wronged themselves, they came to you, so seek forgiveness from God and ask forgiveness for them, the Messenger, to find God a merciful repentance. O the best of those who are buried in the bottom, the greatest is the best of their goodness, and the best is the redemption for the grave you inhabit The chastity and the generosity and kindness Then the Bedouin turned away and my eyes overtook me, and I saw the Prophet, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, in sleep. He said: O my thine, the Arab truth, so give him good tidings that God has forgiven him.

[@CEO786]

Long live Shaykh Asrar Rashid and his students, family and followers. Ameen

[@hajro2273]

@TheHaroon786786 narration with some weaknesses

[@foolishworld5917]

What i understand from this debate is somali guy is correct in his own way bcse he tried his best to b safe from committing shirk and asrar rashid also correct bcse he didnt have any intention to call Rasool Allah as equal to Allah.As we know the most beloved to Allah is our Rasool Allah asrar saying out of love for Rasool Allah we can take waseela to ask from Allah..thr is very thin line exists between this normal people cant understand this depth . Even if some Muslim in pain or problem out of love call Rasool Allah we should not label him as kufr bcse his niyyat or intention of calling is out love not same as calling Allah.Till a person say openly Rasool Allah is equal to Allah till thn we should not give judgement on tht particular person as kufr ..even khalid bin waleed Razi Allah anhu used to keep the hair of Prophey under his hat out of love thr r many examples normal mind like us cant understand the depth of it

[@Haris-Siddiqui]

These issues were not even issues during first 3 Generations, but the people of innovation brought such issues in the deen. Always make dua to Allah.

[@Syed_abdurrab]

Lies

[@Syed_abdurrab]

You're Simply ignorant

[@lukashradecky5492]

All this talk about the 3 generations yet you dont know the names of their works or the fact Imam Ahmad (rahmatullah alaih) did things you modernists will accuse of "shirk" or "bid'ah"

[@absayyid]

Asrar's explanations seems clear and authentic. Rahman's explanation also authentic but some times he seems to be having issues.

[@AB-th2td]

Did you watched The four hours debat? I advise you to do that. Explantion of Ustadh Hassan is only talking from The two sources. The Quran and Sunnah. The Haqq! May Allah May reward him in This Dunya and akhiera.

[@nadjiguemarful]

Indeed. The only thing is I think he takes some institutional stuff too seriously thats why the first debate was unnecessarily muddled and not straight to the point. That is coupled with a lot of "Sufis" (claiments to tasuwuf which is a part of Islam).. they start by taking their saints and shouyoukh too important and it comes with this institutionalized methodology which the yehud and nasara were criticized for in the Quran

[@HaqqDaily4]

Asrars famous words: " Ibn taymiyyah was the first person to divide tawhid into 3" 😂LOL Abu Hanifa who was before Ibn Taymiyyah said it. Rather if you open Tafsir Tabari Surah Al Fatiha you will find it there. 😂

[@abdalaliydesert5576]

Wahabi? Vs Sunni. What a doltish title. Arent salafis anything but ahl ul sunnah

[@thewolf1801]

no they are ahlul bidah and kufr

[@saarudon213]

No they are not, they are ahle khabees

[@frontlinedefence5262]

wahhabis are ahlu tashbeeh wa tajseem wa ahlu takfir anything but ahlu sunnah

[@ProudMuslim7747]

Wahabi and Salafi r not from Ahlul Sunnah wal Jammah they r Ahle Khabees, they r just misinterpretating the Hadeeth of Prophet Muhammad PBUH and mislead the innocent people .

[@Drsuleimankeilani]

This issue doesn't need arguments. Asrar is on falsehood may Allah guide him.

[@walid-mq6zo]

Narrated Anas: Whenever there was drought, 'Umar bin Al-Khattab used to ask Allah for rain through Al'Abbas bin 'Abdul Muttalib, saying, "O Allah! We used to request our Prophet to ask You for rain, and You would give us. Now we request the uncle of our Prophet to ask You for rain, so give us rain." And they would be given rain."

[@innocentfriend]

This hadith is mentioned by many who go to graves for waseela. Indeed this hadith itself is an evidence that asking dead for waseela is haram. Why Umar(ra) used to go to Alabbas. And what he used to say.?? If waseela through graves is ok then why did they asked Alabbas while there is no better grave on earth then the grave of Mohammad(saw) which was right before their eyes.

[@v114OG]

stranger 12 Umar used to go to The Messenger ﷺ The arabic is اللهم إنا نتوسل اليك بنبيّنا Oh Allah we used to seek nearness to you with your Prophet ﷺ. Umar then said: إنا نتوسل اليك بعمّ نبينا We seek nearness to you with the uncle of the Prophet ﷺ. The context of tawassul in this hadeeth was seeking nearness to Allah through the du’a of someone, how do we know this? Because Al-Abbaas made du’a and it rained :)

[@innocentfriend]

@@v114OG seeking nearness throgh a pious living person is not a matter of conflict according to any muslim.seeking tawasul through the deceased is conflicting.

[@Harun-cd6jz]

@@v114OG The Prophet saws was alive when they used to ask him to make dua for rain. That's the entire point of the 3 conditions: Alive, present, and able. When Umar ra asked Abbas ra to make dua to Allah swt for rain this was after the Prophet's saws death.

[@mohammedjunaid1012]

And it showed the importance of ahlul bayt aswell!!

[@VivoPhone-ok8lj]

Upload the reply too .how he refuted those claims .i just finished whole video of 4 hrs 54minutes

[@JulaGnieber]

the "sunni" is not sunni

[@dtrep6216]

The way this video is titled goes against the parameters established before the debate.

[@puteratrust913]

To me,sheikh Asrar Rashid has won this debate.. good debate Adab by sheikh Asrar Rashid.. May Allah granted him Firdaus a'la.. Amin ya rabbal alamin..

[@mohamedfaadielwilliams6699]

I call on ALLAH alone. La illah ha illallah ❤❤❤❤

[@omarthearab81]

As a Liberial Muslim I'd Call the AA, Allah knows what people do-,“Unquestionably, to Allah belongs whatever is in the heavens and earth. Already He knows that upon which you [stand] and [knows] the Day when they will be returned to Him and He will inform them of what they have done. And Allah is Knowing of all things.” Quran (Surah Nur, 64), why do these people get aggressive and shout like arrogant preachers, totally out dated Islam needs to come up to 21st century standards not complete following of 1400 years ago and people putting their own spins to sell out Mosques, Maajid Nawaz says it correct "Islam like any other Religion can and has to be scrutinised", the sooner all Muslim except this and recognise this concept we can all live in peace.

[@kbayli.jsk1256]

shutup

[@AscendedBeyond]

A liberal Muslim is a contradiction. "O you who have believed, enter into Islam completely [and perfectly] and do not follow the footsteps of Satan. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy." 2:208 "It is not for a believing man or woman-when Allah and His Messenger decree a matter-to have any other choice in that matter.1 Indeed, whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has clearly gone ˹far˺ astray."33:36 Allah and his Messenger define what is permissible and impermissible. We understand how the best of generations understood the Salaf.

[@hassanleghari11]

Shaykh asrar ❤️

[@sagormazumder5339]

Dear Asrar Rashid, May Allah subhanawatala guide me & guide you to the straight path , I was amazed how you stick to your misguidance , after all the proof has given to you from Quran & Sunnah of my Habib .Fear Allah akhi , fear Allah .

[@pkasb90]

Ambiguous or uncertain or grey areas are best to be avoided. Calling "Ya Rasulullah" is just to be avoided. Just call "Ya Allah Help me in my situation of need"

[@danwilliams911]

It's not ambiguous though. It is only ambiguous for someone who is ignorant of the facts.

[@ISHsClips]

This shaykhs style of delivering his lectures is awesome. He does his homework beforehand before talking to people from different walks of life. I just love watching his videos and especially the debates where he clearly exposes the jahils Adrenalin levels with his calm way. May Allah preserve you shaykh Asrar.. Αмєєи اي ولله IYI

[@JM-pr5rb]

Ameen

[@hararehaile2813]

Please watch the 4 hour debate Dont embarrass yourself as blind followers

[@ShafiAshari]

@@hararehaile2813 I did really watch it. We know that your ustad abdurrahman avoiding or even misunderstanding questions made by the shaykh.

[@ANK51]

why is ustad Abdul rahman tense his legs shaking

[@harunyahyadotorg]

A Caan what does that have to do with the debate you ignorant

[@alishariff8657]

A K ha ha ha he is shivering

[@Ss-er5qd]

If you watch ustadh abdurahman videos he always shakes his legs

[@thewolf1801]

He is nervous

[@saleemmemon3133]

May he wants to kick the ignorant "Ustad"

[@ShhhutUp]

Let's be straight ad honest. Abdur Rahman WON and mopped the floor with Asrar.

[@JohnSmith-vt3rn]

No. No he didn't. Let's leave it at that

[@sulemanfarasi9639]

Are you saying abdur rehman is a cleaner who carries a mop and had come to clean the room ? please explain

[@mohamedfarah1658]

Suleman Farasi akhe fear Allah and speak an upright & just word or remain silent.

[@sulemanfarasi9639]

@@mohamedfarah1658 before you comment on what I said read the comment of the person I was replying to

[@mohammedsabeel50]

Which debate was you watching clearly not this one

[@shaikhmudassar25]

i had been waiting for the proofs from shaikh Abdur rehman on his claims of 3 conditions(alive, present & ability) for istgatha from the earliest 3 generations. But he failed to give it till the end. Since all his debate was based on this 3 points, i would appreciate if could still give a try a prove everyone that his claims were not false.jazzakhallah

[@saj3002]

Agree with you apart from where you said he failed to give it till the end, I don't recall him giving the source for the 3 conditions at all.

[@luk1430i]

conditions(alive, present & ability) for istgatha وَدَخَلَ الْمَدِينَةَ عَلَىٰ حِينِ غَفْلَةٍ مِّنْ أَهْلِهَا فَوَجَدَ فِيهَا رَجُلَيْنِ يَقْتَتِلَانِ هَٰذَا مِن شِيعَتِهِ وَهَٰذَا مِنْ عَدُوِّهِ ۖ فَاسْتَغَاثَهُ الَّذِي مِن شِيعَتِهِ عَلَى الَّذِي مِنْ عَدُوِّهِ فَوَكَزَهُ مُوسَىٰ فَقَضَىٰ عَلَيْهِ ۖ قَالَ هَٰذَا مِنْ عَمَلِ الشَّيْطَانِ ۖ إِنَّهُ عَدُوٌّ مُّضِلٌّ مُّبِينٌ And he entered the city at a time of inattention by its people and found therein two men fighting: one from his faction and one from among his enemy. And the one from his faction called for help to him against the one from his enemy, so Moses struck him and [unintentionally] killed him. [Moses] said, "This is from the work of Satan. Indeed, he is a manifest, misleading enemy."

[@saj3002]

+luk1430i ?? That's the evidence for the 3 conditions ???

[@ReulMcGillolane]

What?

[@Harun-cd6jz]

@@saj3002 Yes, because Musa was alive, present, and able to aid the man who asked for help. There is also a narration from Anas ra when during the reign of Umar ra there was a drought so Umar ra asked Al-Abbas ra to make dua to Allah swt for rain. Umar ra specifically mentioned that "we USED to ask the Proohet saws to make dua" because the Prophet saws was deceased at this point. Al-Abbas ra was alive, present, and able so the 3 conditions were met. If it were permissible to make istighatha to the Prophet saws after death it would make no sense to skip over the Prophet saws and ask Abbas ra to make dua.

[@truthoverhappiness7338]

Why did the wobblers cut off this

[@truthoverhappiness7338]

+Alex Gemi someone who follows ibn Abdul wahab najdi

[@responenone6568]

What do you have to say about this qursn verse? Hadiths don't come over the quran verses. You must admit after reading this quran verse & see salaf explanation that wasela and dua to other than creator is shirk. Quran 10:106 - And invoke not besides Allah, any that will neither profit you, nor hurt you, but if (in case) you did so, you shall certainly be one of the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers).

[@truthoverhappiness7338]

Respone None look at the Ayat in Arabic brother. correct translation of (Tad'Uw) is Worship not invoke. Yunus 10:106] "And other than Allah, do not worship that which cannot benefit you nor cause you harm; then if you do so, you would be of the unjust." (* Some things like the sun, stars, trees are useful but they too are created by Allah. Their worship will not benefit - in fact it is harmful.)

[@waseem3967]

I think you made a mistake in the title. Asrar Rashid is not a Sunni, at least he doesn't follow it. And the term 'Wahabi' is bad to use, as you are making fun of Allah's name, Antal Wahab! Why not call them Abdul-Wahabis? Or Muhammadins? Hmm? Jazak'Allah

[@waseem3967]

mohammed ali Jazak'Allah for that. May Allah guide you and straighten your affairs, Insha'Allah. Sheikh Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahab was not my "grandad", I don't know where you possibly got that from. Anyways, I have learnt about him and Insha'Allah will continue to do so more. Read one of his books, Kitab at Tawheed, amazing read! Don't worry, you can download it for free on the Play store and don't be scared lol😂

[@abbaji4045]

without any disrespect asrar rashid is ashari school of thought I can't understand why u say he is not sunni,I've studied his lineage something things differently from the other brothers but not major things in aqida.

[@samir2319]

Just like Hanbalis are called Hanbalis and not Ibn Hanbalis. The truth is in history the wahhabis called themselves wahhabis.

[@gangsta123100]

Wrong on both accounts. 1 shaykh Asrar Rashid is sunni. 2 There is nothing wrong with calling them wahabi because in the Arabic language the "yaa" is added at the end to make a nisbat (link) of one thing to another. like Makka become Makki i.e the one of makkah (meaning resident of makkah) And many pther exaples. its basic Arabic grammer.

[@Sameeralik1]

Masha Allah majority of the muslims in this comment has supported to call only Allah and rejected the others who called dead people or awliyas for help

[@dr.asif0777]

To Allah alone we ask for help. That's what Prophets did. Barelvism has adopted the doctrine of intercession from Indian culture and practices.

[@adilaziz7205]

Asif Ghani on the day of qiyammat will not go to the prophet to save you from hell

[@adilaziz7205]

Or will u go alone to Allah s.w.t

[@S3ven4]

This is deep ignorance, because what you're saying is that tawassul and intercession are adopted from the Indian culture, yet in North Africa and elsewhere the sunnis also hold this opinion. So what are you talking about?

[@Basit7729]

@@S3ven4 mostly suffis/barelvis have this aqeeda... Ahle sunnah seek help from Allah

[@S3ven4]

@@Basit7729 You're wrong because throughout Islamic history the encouragement of tawassul and intercession through the Prophets and the Saints of Allah is encouraged. It is not sufi or barelvis specific. It's only the modernists who see it as shirk/bid'ah due to deep ignorance and obliviousness of Classical Islamic Law.

[@muhamedgreatman]

brevlis and shia share alot of things

[@jamalrizwana]

Like ravafiz and wahabi

[@thirdocean3784]

Like khawarij and wahhabi

[@khadradaud6822]

Well I believe sufis and shis hold a lot of things together but wahabis ain't that bad like the first generation of wahabis was a little extreme but the third generation is fine, but me personally I'm a salafi ( sunnii), saying that khawarjs and wahabis are the same is outrageous claim!

[@MohammedAli-di4ke]

If he's a wahaabi..then ur bravehearts

[@bikerider9938]

people who come to comments box just to know who is won the debate ! So Answer is here : Shaykh Asrar Rashid (Ahlussunnah) Won the Debate.

[@pkasb90]

Why on earth would anyone go into committing all these? Go direct to Allah is more than enough. Absolutely unnecessary thing to ask from the dead. Whether it's permissible or otherwise it's just unnecessary.

[@5heeshi]

No one is saying you can't go direct but what has a higher chance of success your dua or the Prophet pbuh? On the day of judgement who do you ask to stop judgement day. Allah st? No we ask the Prophets and eventually the Prophet pbuh for help. But I'm sure our wahabbi brothers will ask Allah st direct and get a response, while all of humanity runs to the prophets.

[@SNIPERS327]

@@5heeshi . That's for only day of Judgement!

[@TheR3negadeMaster]

1. We are forbidden to call upon anything other than Allah ALONE. 2. If you want the prophet Muhammad saws to intercede for you on Qiyamah, you need to follow his sunnah by committing certain good deeds such as fasting for the sake of Allah etc. NOT BY CALLING UPON HIM. 3. Please NEVER brand anybody who doesn’t adhere to a sect as a Wahabi. There was only 1 sect at the time of the prophet saws. We run to Allah, not the prophets like the Christians who worship ISA a.s. We don’t follow Saudi government but Makkah and Madinah are our holy lands. The house of Allah is in Makkah.

[@JokerGotNoRules]

Sunni: we do not say YAA MUHAMMAD to a point that if there is a sticker or a written statement we have been asked to remove it because of the Barelwi contradiction Barelwai:YAA MUHAMMAD is the belief of Barelwi plz do not put them on Sunni shoulders.

[@abdulbashid686]

why you put sunni and wahabi at first place ,everyone are ahle sunna .dont label people you be caught beforw Allah

[@isrargulzar5069]

Brother they are wahabi and they should be called that. They are not from Ahle Sunnah Wal Jammat.

[@fencalmari5609]

Nothing wrong with saying "Ya Muhammad", directly addressing him. Ibn Qudamah even instructs you to do this in a time of need in his "A Word of Advice". You even address the Prophet ﷺ directly in your prayers: “al-salaamu ‘alayka ayyhu’l-nabiyyu.

[@samisakhai]

You not asking the prophet for anything in time of prayer. Listen to the whole debate

[@rehanzamindar6533]

Love prophet , adore him , follow him but don't make him more than a prophet . Like the Christians did.

[@noproblem451]

@@rehanzamindar6533 It’s not directly, because Salah is a worship of Allah. And your asking with the permission of Allah , for him to recieve your Salam.

[@noproblem451]

Tagged wrong.

[@lukashradecky5492]

​@@rehanzamindar6533We aren't? That is just a warning against the deification of Rasulullah ﷺ

[@abdulali4231]

I wish ustad abdur rahman and shirkh asrar are an stay friends. They have a good and funny chemistry

[@learningzone674]

You are shirk

[@denibr2636]

Whoever calls upon the Prophet after his death, or Angels or Dead sahabah instead of Allah The Most High, is a mushrik without a doubt.

[@maherabumosameh5826]

His name is Mohamed Abdel wahab not wahab. Alwahab in Arabic is one of the names of Allah almighty which means who gives with generosity. Second Mohamed Abdel wahab he didn't create a new way "mathhab" he only was against shirk and if you want to know him read his books and then u can see clearly he was only following Sunna. Advise read before u judge May Allah bless you

[@abu_ubaydah]

You are speaking the haqq akhi. Muhammad ibn abd al Wahab (rah) never made the sect wahabi. He never made it. There is literally no Muslim that calls himself wahabi. i've never seen one muslim, when someone asks that muslim: what religion are you i've never heard them say im wahabi muslim

[@L1MAR]

Dua is Ibadad, Doing Dua to Allah Is Ibadad. Doing Dua To Prophet(s.a.w) Is Shirk. Very Simple.

[@go10965videos]

umar farooq so asking help is making dua?

[@L1MAR]

noahj 457 Asking help from someone who has no connection with you is Shirk. The one who cant hear u. Cant reply you.

[@go10965videos]

umar farooq what do you mean has no connection with you, and in what category of shirk is it, 1)divine essence 2)worship 3)attributes

[@L1MAR]

noahj 457 All

[@go10965videos]

umar farooq then could you explain in each one

[@SUFINAQSHBANDILARVI]

Shaykh Asrar Is With Ahlus sunnah wal jamaah ..May Allah Bless him More Knowledge and Made him the defender of Ahlesunnah wal jamaah !

[@RashidpakAlb2]

The wahabi name gives ignorant people to salaf or ahle sunnat, this name not exist in Islam for ahle sunna.

[@asifmahmood5942]

يا رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم کا نعرہ لگاتے جائیں گے اور حاسدوں کے دل جلاتے جائیں گے

[@shaguftabright]

Bus naaray lagatay jaai gay . Un ko follow ni karay gay aap log

[@Basit7729]

Barelvi bs nary lagaye gy...shia barelvi bhai bhai

[@Basit7729]

Sirf Ya Allah baki sub shirk

[@muhammadumairtariq4709]

@@Basit7729 bhai ager shahba ya roosal madad boly tu per plz reply

[@muhammadumairtariq4709]

@@Basit7729 bhai ager shahba ya roosal madad boly tu per shahba bi mushrik ho gay plz reply

[@tawwabali4419]

Al-Kahf 18:110 قُلْ إِنَّمَآ أَنَا۠ بَشَرٌ مِّثْلُكُمْ يُوحَىٰٓ إِلَىَّ أَنَّمَآ إِلَٰهُكُمْ إِلَٰهٌ وَٰحِدٌۖ فَمَن كَانَ يَرْجُوا۟ لِقَآءَ رَبِّهِۦ فَلْيَعْمَلْ عَمَلًا صَٰلِحًا وَلَا يُشْرِكْ بِعِبَادَةِ رَبِّهِۦٓ أَحَدًۢا Say, "I am only a man like you, to whom has been revealed that your god is one God. So whoever would hope for the meeting with his Lord - let him do righteous work and not associate in the worship of his Lord anyone."

[@harunyahyadotorg]

Abdur Rahman is right, Shaik ISRAR didn’t answer the (chairs) question, but only responded to his comment.

[@mdarr786]

The neo salafi is a typical preacher, he doesn't present his arguments as a submission, he just preaches. His mooting skills are very poor.

[@halifaxpakistanis]

Brother Dilly 👏🏽

[@soban1981]

Will i be commited to hell if i only call upon Allah in time of need?

[@BrothersInHumanity1]

Wahabi? Did the Abdurrahman Hassan call asrar any name in their video? How stupid. Either way Abdurrahman won.

[@Rogue_Console]

How does one look young and look to be seeking status?

[@786AbdulSalamKhan]

Najrilla 28 Seeking help from the Prophet (SAW) is shirk? So why did the sahaba seek his help prior to his death and why will his help be sought on the day of ressurection? Are those all shirk too? The fact of the matter is: Whether Allah (SWT) can grant one of his servants a certain authority or virtue to any of his creatures is an Aqeedah issue. And the answer is that Allah can do so. Whether the Prophets and other righteous servants of Allah have been granted a special life after their deaths is also an Aqeedah issue. And the answer is that they have been granted this special life. In light of the above, asking the Prophet (SAW) for help after his death but prior to the day of ressurection, is *not* an Aqeedah issue but a *Fiqh* issue. And the scholars of Fiqh have long said that istighatha is mustahab. Fiqh is superior to hadith. For example, Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal in response to a questioner said that in order for one to be a scholar of Fiqh one would have to memorise a minimum of 400,000 Hadith (along with their chain and authenticity). This is why it is necessary to do Taqleed today, who today has memorised even 10,000 Hadith let alone 400,000?

[@imaginx806]

Salam Khan You mentioned yourself “prior to his death”

[@shamsviews]

Abdur Rahman should dare to Refute Al-Amn wal oola presented to him by shaykh Asrar..

[@zerochance7708]

I am inbetween. Istighatha can be permissible or shirk akbar, depending on the definition you use. Tawassul might be permissible but it is not Sunnah and it is not bid'a. Although I respect the view that one views it as bid'a but I don't see it as bid'a. I myself won't do Tawassul because the Hadith is weak but if someone takes it as evidence that the Hadith is ok and acts upon it then I don't condemn him Wallahu a'lam

[@TheGEOPOLITICIANGUY]

agreed - I would not do tawassul simply because it DONT FEEL RIGHT - and we can NEVER GO WRONG if we JUST call on to Allah - because in case its forbidden if we just call to Allah we would never have to worry about answering this to Allah on yawm al-qiyamah butttt I also agree this is not Bid’ah by the definition that Muhammad gave in bukhari and muttawatir reports - “any new thing” …”which is that OF the religion” - it may be wrong, it may okay to do every once in a while - but there is not one thing of SOLID proof to say that anything other than salem to the prophet (saw) after his death is permissible - so unless its proven otherwise, I would not touch it with a 10 foot pole but you may disagree with me here but the Ash’arites are imo way more overall sensible and knowledgeable when it comes to areas such as kalam and so forth - without ever going over the top …. BUT this is the ONE THING I just dont understand why 1/2 the ash’aris find “100%” permissible

[@theindubitable]

@@TheGEOPOLITICIANGUY You can never go wrong if your aqeedah is straight. La hawla wa laa quaata ila billahi. This is the right aqeedah. If you, have other aqeedah the you can be scared of shirk and so on. We rely upon a dead asprin when we have a headache right, it is much bigger chance that you go wrong there than Tawassul with right aqeedah. So I have head this typwnof thinking but it doesn't make sense.

[@abcdzxcd]

Though the channel admin tried hard to win the debate with title, the video clearly shows the mushrik and muwahhid and comment sections too shows how many guys did tawba and came back to Islam

[@basheerahmadkakarr6825]

I was a salafi, Alhamdulilah Ya Rabb for showing me the haqq. Sunni, Hanafi, Ashari. Alhamdulilah.

[@SeNniN06]

Wahabi are sitting there going no you shouldn't ask Muhammad (sws). While Muhammad (sws) was alive he told Ali r.a and I'm not certain but Umar r.a was with him as well. They were told by Muhammad (sws) to go ask for a certain person to pray because this individual prayer is always accepted. The two best people in all humanity are asked by the most beloved him self to go seek help of a someone else. This individual was given this status from Allah because of his love and devotion to his sick mother. That shows there are people more beloved, that you can seek help from, as long as you have the intention of just this individual to pray to Allah for you and that Allah is ultimately the one that gives us everything. We all know the status of our beloved Muhammad (sws). how dare you think or even say, that we cannot ask our beloved prophet Muhammad (sws), Allah doesn't even listen to your prayers until you have sent your durood sharif to Muhammad (sws).

[@ridwanismailkathrada1347]

SeNniN They were told to ask Uwais Qarani to make dua for them because Allah will always answer his duas. We all should make dua for each other, the angels say Ameen and same for you to Duas that you make for other people. This has absolutely nothing to do with asking from Allah through someone else. And sending blessings upon our beloved prophet sallallahu allayhi wassallam has nothing to do with asking from Allah through him sallallahu allayhi wassallam. It’s asking Allah Azza Wajal to send peace and blessings upon Muhammad sallallahu allayhi wassallam and his family. You are distorting hadeeth and this beautiful religion. May Allah guide us to the truth. And May Allah make this Ummah 1 Ummah.

[@owaispatel3159]

Masha Allah, Sheikh Asrar Rashid

[@iliyassheikh5625]

Ahle Sunnah Ya Allah 🌹 Ya Rasolallah صل الله عليه وسلم

[@jamalatmaca8071]

Framing the title ha

[@luk1430i]

The interceding and benefit of the prophet is clearly stated in the hadith that he replies back to whom gives prayer to him. If this so, then claiming that interceding or benefiting in any other way requires a specific evidence proving that type of benefit.

[@29-yasirkhan11]

The title should be mawlana asrar(ahlul biddah) vs Abdur Rahman (ahlus sunnah)

[@Imran1291984]

Dawah Man argued 4 hrs denying Istigasa and was drowned in 5 minutes Q & A sessions ......

[@devonmitchell9181]

Is there a Hadith where the Prophet (S.A.W) said that it was ever permissable to upon him while he (S.A.W) was in his (S.A.W.) grave?

[@whussaina]

quite funny how asrar rashid always seems to have something sick in his throat when is his time to speak... probably his pride and arrogance! the 3 conditions that abdul rehman was talking about are common sense for the person that thinks with logic.

[@idriss.3725]

Hm logic... and i thought the proof must be from the two sources not by logical arguments. especially in such a most important matter. the truth is these 3 "conditions" cannot be found anywhere as direct instructions connected to this topic. search all your life, its an innovation.

[@whussaina]

+Idris S. brother where can you find the other side of the argument? where does allah swt or the messenger of allah pbuh or the first 3 generations of islam teach you the practices these guys are pushing today??????

[@idris7162]

+Waqas Hussain did you even watch the debate or listen to what asrar rashid said? didnt abdur Rahman even adress those proofs? i just cant understand how you close yours ears and eyes when proof is presented and then of course the Authenticity of it being established . ( no the opposition did not respond to the authentification ) are you just playing like you didnt hear?

[@idris7162]

+Idris7 and next thing is abdur Rahman didnt cite the source of his claims . merely names of scholars who he claims have made such statements. the level of argumentation here is clearly different also the use of methods and proof. while one side only quotes names and accusations to weaken the arguments of the other ( which is in no way a reply to a question or a refutation of an argument, you have to adress what is said) and then quotes verses and sayings to make his statements without quoting their scholarly exegesis and explanation. to conclude abdur Rahman mostly made claims while asrar rashid supported his statements with proof. there was sadly not much focus on one single point because either of the parties jumped back and forth on topics thus urging the other to respond. wish they wouldve just chosen 1 topic, then present their respective proofs and then presenting refutation of those mentioned proofs.

[@abdulmoizansari7486]

Sahaba called Ya Muhammad sallalaho alaihi wasallam in the battle of Yamama at the time of Khilafah of Abu Bakr RA. Anyone who thinks this is an innovation, he is misguided.

[@mkude]

Maashaallah Salafiiyah..

[@ik.8093]

abdur Rahman was asked a simple question by sheikh Asrar rashid is that, when prophet ﷺ ascended on the sixth heaven and met Musa (as.) he interceded on the behalf of this nation prayers should be brought to 50 to 5 times a day and prophet ﷺ went back to Allah and then established the 5 times prayer. Did Musa (as.) benefited this Ummah? As Abdur rahmans belief the prophets cant help after their death. He got caught in 4K 😂 He was questioning himself.

[@palebluedot8733]

I did watch the full debate and Sheikh Asrar Rashid won the debate clearly.

[@mohamedissa1729]

ahsan majeed clearly u were watching a different debate

[@ctraltdel3558]

Actually, the points Abdur Rahman brings are really strong. Asrar brings stroies alongnwith the ahadith.

[@abdulatiifi5522]

lol no way I think you watched different debate

[@Champagnep4kki]

this asrar is lost fuck him he has no knowledge

[@brothersman524]

No I do think Shaykh Abdur-rahman was far more clearer with the evidences in my opinion but in the end of the day we need to look at ourselves regarding prayers, fasting, backbiting, name-calling, swearing, akhlaaq, ikhlaas and many other things. I watched the debate quite a few times now as a neutral as well. What I hate the most is the name-calling Wobblers, Najdi, Dirty salafi etc from one side and then Brelwi, Biddati etc on the other side - the people who do these things are seriously not on the haqq - they are the ones who lack understanding - I respect both Shaykhs though. In the end of the day, put the these differences aside and unite together - there are major problems around the world with our brothers and sisters being tortured and humiliated by the oppressors and we are too busy fighting each other over certain issues that should be put aside

[@Ahmadashshafiyy]

Uhmar ibn al kitab did it with the dry river bed and he would ask through the prophets uncle during droughts May Allah be pleased with them all and raise the rank of our messenger Salallahu alayhi wa salaam

[@kullukhayr7497]

From history we can conclude that not all actions are absolute shirk by itself in all times. For example, Sajdah was ordered by Allah Ta'ala for Adam (as) and we find Prophet Yousef's (as) bothers and parents giving him Sajdah out of respect. But this Sajdah of respect was later abrogated and Allah Ta'ala the Legislator made it absolute Shirk. Likewise ruling re istigatha may not be absolute, i.e. allowed when a person is alive and is able to help while shrik when he is dead.

[@The-Monotheist]

Shaykh asrar proved that all religions are right.

[@thirdocean3784]

Some notes about Wahhabism: • Muhammad ibn ’Abd al-Wahhâb belonged to the Banî Tamîm tribe. He was born in Uyaina village near the town of Huraimila in the Najd Desert in 1111 A.H. (1699) and died in 1206 (1792). Formerly, with the idea of trading, he went to Basra, Baghdad, Iran, India and Damascus, where he won the name “Shaikh an- Najdî” due to his clever and aggressive attitude. He saw and learnt a great deal at these places and set his heart on the idea of becoming a chief. In 1125 (1713 A.D.), he met Hempher, a British spy, in Basra, who understood that this inexperienced young person (ibn 'Abd al-Wahhâb) has a desire to be a chief by way of revolution, established a long-term friendship with him. He inspired him the tricks and lies that he had learned from the British Ministry of the Commonwealth. Seeing that Muhammad enjoys these inspirations, he proposed him to establish a new religion. So, the spy and Muhammad ibn 'Abd al-Wahhab got what they were looking for. He had thought it proper to found a new tarîqa to reach his goal, and, in preparation for this goal, attended the lectures of the Hanbalî ’ulamâ’ in the blessed city of Medina and later in Damascus for some time. When he went back to the Najd, he wrote pamphlets on religious subjects for villagers.(for the most part, from Ayyûb Sabri Pasha’s Turkish work Mir’ât al-Haramain; 5 volumes, Matba’a-i Bahriye, Istanbul, 1301-1306 A.H.) • ’Abd al-’Azîz ibn Muhammad, who believed in the Wahhabîs, declared war for the first time in 1205 A.H. (1791) against the amîr of Mecca, Sharîf Ghâlib Effendi. They had disseminated Wahhâbism secretly till then. They had killed and tortured many Muslims, enslaved their women and children and usurped their possessions.(Ibid) • As-Sayyid Ahmad ibn Zainî Dahlân (rahmat-Allâhi ’alaihi), Muftî of the blessed city of Mecca, described under the topic “Al- fitnat al-Wahhâbiyya” the tenets of Wahhâbism and the tortures the Wahhâbis inflicted upon Muslims?(Al-futûhât al-Islâmiyya, second volume, page 228, Cairo, 1387 (1968); photo-offset reproduction of a comparable part, Istanbul, 1395 (1975).) He wrote: “To deceive the ’ulamâ’ of Ahl as-Sunna in Mecca and Medina, they sent their men to these cities, but these men could not answer the questions of the Muslim ’ulamâ’. It became evident that they were ignorant heretics. A verdict declaring them disbelievers was written and distributed everywhere. Sharîf Mas’ûd ibn Sa’îd, Amîr of Mecca, ordered that the Wahhâbîs should be imprisoned. Some Wahhâbîs fled to Dar’iyya and recounted what had happened to them.”(Ibid, p. 234.) • ‘Abd al-Wahhab(the Father of Muhammad ibn abdul Wahhab) was a righteous man who foresaw rebellion in his son since his boyhood, bore dislike for him, and used to say: “He will cause great corruption.”(Narrated in al-Suhub al-Wabila fi Tarajim al-Hanabila.) • Wahhabis, since their formation, have repeatedly accused Muslims of shirk: “His ultimate confusion is his imputation of dis- belief to all those who do not follow him. Upon this lying imputation he built his innovation and heresy and all his foul errors, claiming they over- venerated the graves of Prophets - upon them blessings and peace - and those of the Friends of Allah - may He benefit us through them - “to the point that they would ask from them what Allah alone is able to bestow.”(Habib ‘Alawi ibn Ahmad al-Haddad, Refutation of the Innovator of Najd, Translation & Notes G.F. Haddad Damascus 1420/1999) • Muhammad bin Hamid Al-Najdi, from his chapter on Shaykh Abdul Wahhab, the father of Mohammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab: "He is the father of the Wahhabbi da'wah founder; Mohammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab, whose controversy spread to many places. Even though Mohammad did not publicly preach his ideas and teachings until after his fathers death, I was told by some scholars on the authority of the scholars who lived during Ibn Abdul Wahhabs lifetime, that his father (Abdul Wahhab) was extremely angry with him for not learning fiqh from the shaikhs and scholars of Najd, and that Shaykh Abdul Wahhab predicted his son would be the cause of unrest. Shaykh Abdul Wahhab would say to people: 'You will witness evil from Mohammad'. The Shaykh's son Sulaiman; brother of Mohammad, was also against the teachings of Mohammad and refuted them with Quranic verses and hadiths, because Mohammad would not accept anything else as evidence. He refused all the opinions and rulings of the Imams of Ahlus-Sunnah except those of Ibn Taymiyyah and his student Ibnul Qayyim, he considered their works almost sacred and infallible. He used the words of Ibn Taymiyyah and Ibnul Qayyim to argue with people, even if their words were not to be understood in the way Mohammad understood them." [Ibn Hamid Al-Najdi, Al-Suhub Al-Wabila ala Dara'ih Al-Hanabila", 2/680.] • Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab(LA) claimed no one knew Tawhid or the meaning of Islam before him: “I will tell you about myself. By God, apart from Whom there is no god, I sought learning (talabtu l-‘ilm), and those who knew me believed that I had some; yet at that time I did not know the meaning of « there is no god but God », nor did I know the religion of Islam, before this blessing (khayr) which God vouchsafed to me. Likewise not one among my teachers knew it; if any of the scholars of the Arid claims that he knew the meaning of Islam, before this time, or maintains that any of his teachers knew it, he lies, fabricates, leads people astray, and falsely praises himself”(Cook mentions that he found it in Ibn Ghannam Rawdat al-Afkar, Bombay, 1337 (AH ), i, p.189.12. I did find this edition but I found the letter in two different editions Husayn Ibn Ghannam, Tarikh Najd, harrarahu wa haqqaqahu Nasir al-din al-Asad (Cairo: Matba'a al-Madani, 1961), p.341-42 and Husayn Ibn Ghannam, Tarikh Najd, harrarahu wa haqqaqahu Nasir al-din al-Asad, 2nd ed. (Beirut Dar al- Shuruq, 1985), p.309-10. It has also been included in the collection of letters by Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al- Wahhab:Muhammad Ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhab, Mu’allafat al-shaykh al-imam Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al- Wahhab 12 vols. (Riyad: Jami‘a al-Imam Muhammad ibn Sa‘ud al-islamiyya, 1981), vol.5, p.186-87.) • Margoliouth describes the Najdi creed as follows: “They regard the Deity as having bodily form, with face, hands, etc”(D. S. Margoliouth, ‘Wahhabism,’ in Encyclopaedia of religion and ethics, ed. James Hastings and John A. Selbie (Edinburgh : : T. & T. Clark, 1913), p.660.) • Some Meccan Wahhâbîs went to ’Abd al-’Azîz, the ruler in Dar’iyya, and told him that the representatives could not refute the Meccan ’ulamâ’ and that a declaration stating that their system of beliefs was hostility against Islam was sent to every country. ’Abd al-’Azîz ibn Muhammad ibn Sa’ûd and his followers bitterly resented the Ahl as-Sunna and attacked Mecca in 1215. The Amîr of Mecca, Sharîf Ghâlib ibn Musâ’id ibn Sa’îd Effendi, resisted them. Much blood was shed on both sides. Sharîf Ghâlib Effendi did not allow them to enter Mecca, but the Arab tribes around Mecca accepted Wahhâbism. Between the two ’îds of the same year, Sa’ûd sent an army to the town of Tâ’if. They oppressed and massacred Tâ’ifian Muslim women and children(For the details of this oppression and massacre which is unbearable to the heart, see Ahmad ibn Zainî Dahlân’s Khulâsat al-kalâm (reprint, Istanbul, 1395/1975) and Ayyûb Sabri Pasha’s Târîkh-i Wahhâbiyyân, Istanbul, 1296 A.H. (1879).) • Allama Ahmed bin Ali Basri states:“From amongst the things he (Abdul Wahab Najdi) mentioned one thing which he actually said is that, ‘If I get the opportunity, I will break down the Rauda of Rasoolullah .’” [Faslul Khitaab Fi Rad-di Dalalati Ibn Abdil Wahab] • The same Allama Basri also states that, “Breaking down the blessed graves of the Shuhada amongst the Sahaba e Kiraam(RA) simply because of the domes, is a harsh evil, and deviancy of this Najdi (Abdul Wahab Najdi).” [Faslul Khitaab Fi Rad-di Dalalati Ibn Abdil Wahab] May Allah Guide the Wahhabis back to the Orthodoxy of Ahlul Sunnah W’al Jammah, and May Allah Curse Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab al-Najdi

[@abuyaqubbeneficialplaylist6623]

There is a Hadīth in Musnad Imām Ahmad which states that whomsoever attributes to a Muslim that which is not found within him, will be tormented by the sweat of the People of the Fire. I request to implement this Hadīth by investigating both the sides, asking Allāh for His Help, and to come to the right conclusion to the best of your ability. By Allāh we have statements of ibn 'Abdil Wahhāb that he is free from what is attributed unto him and he only strove to spread Tawhīd and to defeat Shirk.

[@whatsinaname1305]

@@abuyaqubbeneficialplaylist6623 you are a brave man brother. Imagine if MIAW was guilty of crimes and you were raised up with him, for your stance?

[@abuyaqubbeneficialplaylist6623]

@@whatsinaname1305 May Allāh Bless you and Raise your ranks. What if he is not guilty for these crimes and I defended his honour, that I'll be Rewarded by Allāh as mentioned in the Hadīth? That being said, I only know good of him with evidences so even if I would be wrong, which I'm not, I will not be held accountable for lying or deceiving because I'm conveying from clear evidences.

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@@abuyaqubbeneficialplaylist6623 so, you've not come across statements, in books like Durar as Suniyah, of blanket and chain takfeer?

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