Qatar A350 has DISTURBING PASSENGER | Returns to the Gate

[@AlwaysExtraCrispy]

Perfect example of how you should give taxi instructions without sounding like you're a mumble rapper who has to say everything in 2 seconds.

[@JoshRapture]

I think a medium somewhere the two is probably preferable. The tower controller was probably just going extra slow, due to a possible language barrier and also knowing it was a situation that may be reviewed later. Realistically it would be impossible to speak that slowly on ground control during a genuine departure/arrival push.

[@mandywalkden-brown7250]

@@JoshRapture - yet the Australia controllers still manage to be easily understood when speaking faster, quite unlike the many ridiculous US controllers. Hopeless bunch.

[@danielaramburo7648]

If ATC knows they are talking to someone with limited English, better to speak slow and clearly to avoid confusion.

[@fahadfaisal7855]

You forgot to pay attention to how both read-backs by the Qatari pilots were completely wrong...and ATC did NOT catch it both times.

[@seagullsbtn]

Just take a listen to some of the conversations between US controllers and some English is a second language pilots. I’m not convinced that all second language pilots have a sufficient grasp of English to fly internationally.

[@isfet5149]

For those wondering AFP stands for the Australian Federal Police.

[@robertmog4336]

Thank you!

[@thereissomecoolstuff]

In Australia after covid I thought it meant "authoritarian fascist personnel".

[@russguffee6661]

@@thereissomecoolstuff "just doing my job" Or my favorite "Just following orders"

[@russguffee6661]

@@MattyEngland it'll never happen. Too many useful idiots and sheep in this world..... Oh and your comment is shadowbanned. I can see it because you replied directly to me. Y tub been doing some shady censoring

[@AEMoreira81]

@@russguffee6661 -- Not me laughing uncontrollably at your comment!

[@ELPJM09]

I feel sorry for the passengers who where delayed because of one person going crazy.

[@javiercaselli]

Just imagine an intercontinental flight ahead of you to which you've already added a couple hours delay due to weather, and just when you think things can't go any worse you add at least another hour to the mix because of an unruly passenger. That was an A350 full of extremely unhappy folk...

[@beyondinsanitybr]

I think that the delay was going to happen anyway due to the weather reported. They were happy to get back to the gate and to the boarding room imo. The only unhappy guy was the one taken into custody.

[@johnclamshellsp1969]

Always great videos VASA and thank you. On a good note, that passenger can now look at airplanes from the ground being probably banned from flying.

[@winterlighthome]

Perhaps of interest to you: A small plane made an emergency landing on Interstate 22 in Walker County here in Alabama yesterday (Sat., May 28). Everyone survived.

[@EthanDurant]

Shoot him a quick email. I bet its easier to get a hold of him that way

[@michaelhorne8366]

Can vouch for the referenced weather event, it put a tree through my car 4 kilometres from the airports location.

[@AnotherDoug]

When was this?

[@michaelhorne8366]

@@AnotherDoug Around 16:50 local (06:50Z) [edit, YSSY METAR closest to the assumed time of the passenger incident; METAR YSSY 300709Z 30023KT 6000 2500W +SHRA VCTS SCT017 BKN027 BKN035 SCT052CB 13/10 Q0990]

[@RT-qd8yl]

F

[@chenwong1036]

How long was the delay? Time was lost for pulling out the passenger, find and offload his luggage, refuel for lost taxi fuel and file new flightplan etc.

[@HH2NYC]

2:25 hours.

[@raygale4198]

There were already weather delays so the additional delay may not have amounted to much. We are having some intense weather events here in Aus at the moment, my barometer this morning has almost dropped off the bottom of the scale it's fallen over 20mm Hg overnight.

[@liamharding9338]

This was one of the worst shifts I worked since working at the airport since I had to find the passengers bags to offload them

[@gla5470]

@@liamharding9338 damn never thought of that

[@MubarakSultan]

No refueling required on this case especially with a long haul flight they carried extra

[@fhuber7507]

You don't want to be the passenger that made the airliner go back to the gate, with police to haul you away... They'll no-fly list you.

[@csgergo80]

And it's a long swim back home.

[@raygale4198]

That may have been the intention, if he was an illegal migrant being deported. Not saying this case was but it has happened. While they have a foot on Australian soil they can access out legal system and tie up the immigration case for years, long enough to get a partner and have kids, making it almost impossible to deport them.

[@finiteflying1976]

I remember watching this live on SydSquad. Everyone was wondering why they were going back to the gate.

[@adoptedegg_3392]

oh damn! do you know roughly what time this happened or what the flight number is so i can look it up?

[@Mattymoneyboy276]

@@adoptedegg_3392 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWXEfI2EaL2Xfs0 when the clock gets to 10:38pm

[@finiteflying1976]

It was in the night I think if I’m correct. They haven’t done a whole lot of night streams so you can go back through their night streams to try and find the flight.

[@adoptedegg_3392]

@@finiteflying1976 cool, thanks!

[@liamharding9338]

@@adoptedegg_3392 flight number Qr909 scheduled departure 21:00 actual departure 23:25 rego (A7-ANM) date April 19th

[@mynameisray]

You know that person is now on a no fly list and won't be going anywhere anymore.

[@chrismetz1388]

After they kick him out of the country

[@raygale4198]

That would depend who he is, he may have been getting deported anyway. Some people will try anything to enter and keep on Australian soil to access our legal system.

[@DaveWhoa]

if I was a pilot I'd get soooo lost just trying to find the right exit ramp at large airports like this, i mean look at the map!

[@AnotherDoug]

There are signs on the runways and taxiways

[@akmureithi1263]

Sometimes, due to the complex layout of an unfamiliar airport, taxi is the hardest part of the flight

[@liamharding9338]

Nah this airport isn’t really complex the airports that can through you off are airports like Singapore that one is a nightmare

[@xzreai1802]

The A350 has OANS on the screens on the ND Navigation Display - Onboard Airports Navigation System, as well as ground taxi charts on their EFB on the OIS

[@EdOeuna]

There are two of you to decide where to go. All taxiways are signposted. If in doubt, stop and ask for help!

[@NicolaW72]

Thank you very much!

[@demi3115]

Thank you! I hope we'll get the KLM inflight-fight ATC as well :P

[@hoskoau]

In Australia, the offence of endangering the safety of an aircraft carries a maximum penalty of 10 years imprisonment The law is very broadly drafted and only requires ‘an act’ that would endanger the safety of the aircraft. This will cover any act, for example, assaulting crew members or passengers, distracting crew members or making a scene would be sufficient.

[@AMacLeod426]

Any idea how broadly or narrowly this is typically enforced? (Not disputing, just curious)

[@hoskoau]

@@AMacLeod426 that's the maximum, if you force a plane to return to the gate you are most definitely getting arrested.

[@iatsd]

@@AMacLeod426 Discretion of the Courts based on circumstance. Being an arsehat and refusing to follow crew orders? Maybe a fine. Threatening assault? A bigger fine and suspended sentence. If a foreign national then likely to be deported as well with an automatic 10 year ban (which screws with you travelling to many other countries). Actual assault, but low grade such as just pushing or placing hands upon? Probably a 6-18 month sentence, depending on details, probably ~6 months if foreign and then deportation. Serious assault, ie. GBH level. 2-5 years. Once the AFP are onboard then that's separate charges for refusing to follow a lawful order, assault, etc.

[@elizabeth5985]

@@hoskoau I'm glad. But what kind of world are we living in where common respect and decency for people working for your safety and 300 fellow travelers has to be enforced by fear of punishment? Ugh.

[@EmmaDaisy]

@1:34 “Haven’t forgotten about ya, I’ll get to you as soon as able”

[@thomasmcintosh543]

Those Qatar pilots may not be the best at English, but they got their point across. Passenger is in trouble, for sure.

[@disturbed4733]

The passenger will be released as they are always with no charges or prosecution. I think the new policy should be for the pilot to announce over the radio, "Thanks to the person in seat 34B, your flight has been cancelled".

[@licencetoswill]

@@disturbed4733 nope they will get done over big time by the afp

[@andyozzie7862]

@@licencetoswill no they won’t get done over big time LOL

[@fahadfaisal7855]

MacIntosh, you kiddin' me man. Got their point across you say. How about completely wrong read-back? Now go back and read the print outs in Yellow and Green again...and give it a good listen.

[@legofreak4895]

1:05 TWR:"... and hold short of rapid exit A2" 1:20 Pilot: ".. and exit via rapid A2" Oops! And no correction by TWR

[@chrisschack9716]

There probably should have been a correction, yes ... but the later taxi instruction superseded it before reaching A2, so ATC just might not have bothered yet.

[@NicolaW72]

Yes, indeed.

[@fritz46]

Actually the pilot himself remembered and asked for confirmation at 1:39.

[@9v-skk71]

he should have said hold abeam A2

[@timeslidez]

@@fritz46 What probably happened is one of the other 3 pilots in the flight deck corrected him.

[@Zerbey]

Wonder if the passenger was from Qatar, if so they're going to have an interesting trip home without being able to fly any more.

[@marklasy6209]

They are lucky they didn’t behave like that in Qatar they would be in a lot more trouble.

[@OldLordSpeedy]

@@marklasy6209 From Quatar he can drive with car at many destinations. In Australia he can not drive back to Quatar ... Do you see the point?

[@julkiewicz]

Wow, that'll be one expensive bill for all that extra burnt fuel doing 2 extra taxings...

[@Lady_Trouble]

Harrison Ford famous quote * Get off my plane*😌

[@taupehat]

Vastly preferable to the infamous Harrison Ford quote: "I'm the schmuck that landed on the taxiway."

[@Lady_Trouble]

@@taupehat 😊

[@realulli]

@@taupehat Still more vastly preferable to the Air Canada quote "I almost landed on the taxiway with a queue of airliners!"

[@DeanStalker]

@Sydsquad were streaming at the time of this incident.

[@henryvanveen5365]

A lot of procedure to get back to the gate just to kick off a passenger. I guess if crew are prepared to go through all that, then they really do not want that passenger on board.

[@timeslidez]

Wow the pilot managed to get nearly every read back wrong, impressive stuff. Then at the end he is vacating on Golf and holding short of Golf at the same time, great job Captain!

[@wtfcssource]

Man, you really are a good captain I see. Hats off to you! Impressive stuff

[@haiwatigere6202]

He can walk to Qatar via Kuala Lumpur now

[@tylermcintyre1454]

Tyler Mac Good morning everyone us airways is ready for taxi and take off

[@avi8err829]

The passenger probably complained about the paintjob

[@orlovsskibet]

No, then they would've upgraded him to First.

[@NicolaW72]

@@orlovsskibet Yes!😀

[@infiniteflightaustralia]

I believe the flight departed an 2 hours later after the incident.

[@absters33]

The pilot didn't read back the hold short clearance until already on the runway. What's better, the atc controller didn't catch it either

[@blake86303]

At this point, the passengers should beat the crap out of the unruly one.

[@magic3646]

he actually got beaten up by a guy and pepper sprayed by a woman so yeah

[@treedugger4747]

Can you get the ATC for PRE22? It ascended to 30,000 feet and then descended to 3000 feet, went into a holding pattern, and diverted and landed at KMCO. It just happened today, in Florida.

[@HowBoutDemBoyzz]

Sounds interesting

[@FreshTillDeath56]

Woah what? That's crazy

[@VASAviation]

Working on it. Windshield shattered.

[@robertalexander5422]

My career goal is to just once experienced a shattered windshield at 30000 feet hey, it's a bucket list thing.

[@stevek8829]

@@robertalexander5422 probably Canadian geese, they fly high when they drink.

[@wizzardofpaws2420]

Would be great to know what happened.

[@promaja2]

What did the pilot meant by saying "Qatari 4J heavy"?

[@sauercrowder]

He's identifying his aircraft.

[@LilleyAdam]

I thought Qatar weren't flying a350s anymore?

[@cessna688]

well that was exciting

[@enacrt]

ugh, *that* guy

[@nicoferguson1215]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone here know of any aviation incidents that has happened in or around Battle Creek, Michigan?

[@kennethglover3915]

Google is your friend

[@RT-qd8yl]

@@RLTtizME It's nowhere near as fun.

[@suzieb8366]

Nice one VAS :o)

[@honolulu.spotter]

When was this?

[@JOpethNYC]

Nutty passengers should be banned from flying. It's gotten ridiculous.

[@joshstevens1748]

What airport is this?

[@austintx_planespotter8561]

The other day my dad and I was at Austin Airport KAUS and SWA301/WN301 B737-700 N444WN had to return to the gate to remove a passenger not sure if it was unruly or not it happened on May 25th 2022

[@Southwest_923WR]

Unbeknown to many that don't fly, Southwest has a "ZERO TOLERANCE" stance on b.s. passengers. From gate waiting area, to aircraft door; YOU ARE BEING WATCHED for ANY sign of upcoming issue! Signs are postrd all through jet bridge; "You fuck up, you don't fly." Period, shut the hell up, case closed.

[@LowEarthOrbitPilot]

Passengers causing disturbances, causing aircraft to return to the gate are more common than many people are aware. In the United States, the Transportation Security Administration can and does impose civil fines against the offending passenger (for causing the aircraft to turn around and taxi back, for disruption of the flight and flight crew, etc.), which can total up to $13,999.00! Whatever the issue aboard the flight, it is not worth the cost of the imposition of the Civil penalties

[@gemeen_aapje]

You don't know the situation though. Could just be someone with autism freaking out about bad weather (mentioned in the audio) and having a breakdown / scared of taking off.

[@Rogalik88]

I like the number lol, 13,999.00$, like it's some kind of special deal, promo, 24h only! xD

[@theharper1]

I don't think that they are common in Australia.

[@tomriley5790]

"endangering the safety of an aircraft" up to 10 years in jail in Australia.

[@kd5you1]

@@Rogalik88 Yeah I was wondering if they price match other countries.

[@mafiaboy87]

In my mind, it’s Sarah back to calling in the AFP ;)

[@davidpfol]

let's not get ahead of ourselves, someone who panicked maybe????

[@pistonburner6448]

Or it was like we've seen in movies so many times: the love interest rode on a stair-car alongside the airplane to confess their love, asking her not to leave and marry him instead! Then the cabin crew all smiled and went "Awww...", and the captain happily went back to the gate so they can get back together, get married, and live happily ever after!

[@99dndd]

@@pistonburner6448 Did he hijack some airport steps and throw his shoe at the plane?

[@realulli]

That wouldn't require police attendance.

[@pistonburner6448]

@@realulli Yes, they often do respond, or are called in cases of panic. People panic in different ways. They don't tell you that they're panicking, they just panic. Some even assault cabin crew if they feel they are stopping them from escaping the situation. Some are noticed only when they're already opening a door. We all know for 100% sure that 'door openers' have been dealt with by the police dozens of times.

[@MEU2k]

What happened next?

[@nathansharma87]

Unfortunately society is crumbling and this is a common occurrence now not just on flights but buses, trains, streets, restaurants everywhere, everyday.

[@charlesbrown5505]

Airline’s need to be given human tranquilizers to use on out of control passengers!

[@isfet5149]

Passenger offloading not disturbing.

[@chrisschack9716]

There is a bit of a difference between "disturbing passenger" and "passenger creating a disturbance"

[@Attilablabla]

Disruptive

[@MassiveBrainTrauma]

Have a good Memorial Day Weekend, Fly Boys! 🍻🍔🌭🇺🇸🤠🗽🦅🎖️

[@bessarion1771]

Let me guess - the passenger looked cross-eyed at a stew and she didn't like it...

[@MandoMonge]

HA Company doesn’t allow to offload a guy spitting and slapping crew, it must’ve been something heavy and probably crew got fired because of the delay

[@bessarion1771]

I doubt it, but it's possible, of course. @@MandoMonge

[@derneuburger546]

There is always one^^

[@pistonburner6448]

At least nowadays they don't want to go to Cuba

[@stevek8829]

@@pistonburner6448 that was before 99% on here were born.

[@pistonburner6448]

@@stevek8829 True. Nowadays they have no clue about even recent history, and are trying to make USA and Europe into socialist failures like Cuba...

[@fahadfaisal7855]

1:03 Tower: “Qatari 4J, enter, and taxi via runway 34L, HOLD SHORT of rapid exit A2” Qatari: “Enter 34L and EXIT via rapid A2, Qatari 4J heavy” (No, you idiot, not ‘exit’, but ‘HOLD SHORT’ of rapid exit A2’…also, read-back instructions verbatim). That’s why I tell everyone…even the airline pilots: Write down the damn instructions…you don’t have IT…your English is poor…write down the damn instructions (and ATC gets 3/10 for not catching the mistake in ‘read-back’). 1:43 Tower: “Qatari 4J, continue straight ahead on runway 34L, cross runway 25 and then after crossing TAKE FIRST LEFT IN TO TAXIWAY GOLF.” Qatari: “Copy that, continue straight ahead, cross runway 25. After crossing, left(?), HOLD SHORT GOLF, Qatari 4 Juliet heavy.” Write down the damn instructions, I say…again!!!!! All this after the fact that the ATC is talking to this dude as slow as one would talk to a 4-year-old. Again, ATC gets 2/10 this time for not catching incorrect read-back.

[@Wabs11]

Thanks for that, arm chair pilot. Are we seriously going to get caught up on this? It’s really not that deep.

[@MSRTA_Productions]

Uh oh

[@stevek8829]

@@RLTtizME not any reason to claim bot.

[@stevek8829]

@@RLTtizME it's a 14 year old account. I'm not trying to read fifty posts. I'll have to accept your expert judgement.

[@dianericciardistewart2224]

👍✈✈👍

[@OffendingTheOffendable]

Just throw the crap passenger out the door

[@mango7862]

Yankee on board ?

[@alexsandrkerensky7457]

What happened to the customer is always right?

[@deineroehre]

I know, this is an ironic question. This claim never was true, will never be true and is only used by people with no manners and/or clearly not right to get it their (wrong) way. Some Karens thought this claim from advertising could be used for having advantages, but nowadays you just show to others how stupid you are if you use this nonsense slogan... This is to learn the hard way, though.

[@eaglen00b]

Probably upset because he/she/it has to keep their masks on.