QAV-S Mini 4" flight test vs CMW Shocker (freestyle vs. long range?)

[@GunwooFPV]

Hello sir~ Thank you for sharing. It's been two years since I started drones while watching your flight tutorial. Your video is always so good. Thank you, I am now a drone freestyler in Korea.🥰🥰🥰

[@FPVHans]

Nice man. PLZ make an fpv mower mod build video and mow from your bedroom 🤙

[@crippledcarbonfpv]

I always thought your topography was similar to where I live. Awesome to know you're a fellow Tennessean! Watertown here. Be safe today. Storms are supposed to be intense.

[@alibanimalek2815]

Can you make an updated tuning video

[@Tritorpol]

Wow 4 videos in one day!! New Record? Lol great review

[@Gbmaster137]

Looking at the QAV-S kit, I noticed that the 4" and 3" frames are basically the same, only different size arms. That could make for a great modular quad. Want long range? put the 4" arms on. Freestyle? change to the 3" arms. Of course, for this, the motors can't be soldered to the ESC's, they'd need some sort of connector.

[@enaudeni]

Hey Joshua I have just ordered the QAV-S Mini 4" Analog because of the tutorial you put up. Could put up a video of how to tune this drone further and any little tweaks or mods? I'm a newbie to all this FPV so would like to try stay under the 250 gram mark. Thanks for your reviews, I got an Eachine 300O and Radiomaster T16S on your recommendation. Are there any mini/toothpick fpv drones you would recommend with my gear for newbies? Thanks for sharing with us, really enjoy it! Keep it up!

[@duncanwilliams5790]

Ha! Ride-on mowers are the best! You're hilarious at times JB.

[@zenith9671]

I also bet he likes doing range test videos where he gets to ride it down the street😂

[@JaredClarkBoaz]

Nice! Fellow Tennesseean here and we finally got some nice weather after some bad storms 👌

[@artply]

I love the QAV-S mini 4. I've had it build for a couple months now. I'm running Dave-C 1404-2450kv motors with gemfan 4023x3 props. with my naked gopro 8 and 1000mah RDQ battery I'm at 305 auw. Getting over 12 mins cruising and easy 7 min ripping pretty hard. I have some floppy props on the way from Pyrodrone, the 2 blade props, I want to use them for cruising maybe hit 14-15 mins with her. Thanks for video dude I really enjoy your content.

[@dominicklittle9828]

Glad I went straight to the conclusion and saw you catalyst was still on top especially against that quad

[@rob3393]

Enjoy video. Are you going to review the Emax babyhawk 2? I’ve been hearing good reviews on it.

[@y_i_fly5418]

Just bought DjI goggles along with a Caddix and still waiting for them to get shipped. People at DJI must be going crazy with orders. Those drones are some screamers will check them out in the description while I’m nursing my laptop back to health. Praying that you and yours are safe with all those storms this time of year.

[@redogg2749]

Hi Joshua! Could you please recommend a 4" or below, long range freestyle quad. Thx ❤️

[@Ryanmatthewseltzer]

Josh I need you to post a video on how you roll over the trees I wanna learn it so bad

[@rushmore1305]

What KV motors are on the shocker

[@PropKnucklesFPV]

man the rain in knoxville has been crazy lately.. more time for research i suppose lol

[@soykan07]

I have a question can a fpv drone stay in the air without touching like a dji

[@dauntlessfpv]

That’s how I would expect a 1404 on a 4” prop vs a 2004 on a 4” prop to compare

[@avgvstvs96]

JB, you talk about the Shocker like it's a heavy frame, it's only 48.5 grams, compared to a Diatone Roma that's 47g, the increased durability is from trick engineering alone and with the right motor setup (1404s like all the other micro long rangers) this is the best frame for a micro long range build. All GPS, antenna, and xfire mounts are made by catalyst and are engineered really well, the antenna mount is the best I've used on any of my quads. You and other reviewers have made this same mistake about this quad and assuming it heavy because they sent you a 2004 version rather than a 1404 4". It's a more freestyle oriented frame by design but the weight allows it to be compared to and ultimately beat the micro long range frames in every aspect except battery capacity because of prop clearance. I hope this changes your perspective on this frame! I just finished a 5" FPVcyc. 2204 build in one and am thoroughly impressed.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I talk about the shocker build like it's heavier than the roma build. Not the frame. The build as a whole. The Shocker has 2004 motors which add weight, but also performance. The Shocker 4" was going to be in my lightweight 4" roundup. I asked Catalyst if they could build it under 250g with 1404 motors, and they said it's not really for that, and we agreed to take it out of that roundup and put it in a class of its own. So I'm not making the mistake of classifying it as a heavier quad. That comes straight from the designer.

[@avgvstvs96]

@@JoshuaBardwell I gotcha, I just think the fact that the frame is so light has been lost on people who perhaps would want to build a micro long range because nobody directly compared the frames. Considering the difference in durability between the Shocker and a Flywoo Explorer or Diatone Roma it's kinda tragic more people don't know how good this frame is for micro long range, I haven't seen one build with 1404s and I think that's partly because Catalyst sent the 2004 motor version as you mentioned and reviewers weren't clear on the frames multiple use cases. Despite Catalyst saying it's not made for that, it's literally the best micro long range frame on the market when built as such so Catalyst's mistake was making the frame too good and not realizing it! Thanks for the reply JB.

[@helmuthuneke1775]

fly low and you can mow and fly has any tied it?

[@mani-00]

JB bro! yes i can say bro because every week i watched so many hours of your exquisite content that now i can say bro! anyways man love the review! but this video you got that viral energy! did you had 3 coffees? did you do drugs? smocked weed?! not that you'll tell me! but very awesome positive energy you got! with the smiles that most of us need right now...so anyways kudo brother and thank you.

[@Klaatu_]

Yeah your pounding out the videos today. Just got to say I really love my JB CMW Shocker Ultralite 4 inch build. I find I hard to want to fly my other models.

[@viciousavacado4941]

Would you say you prefer it over a 5”? I’m getting my first dji quad and need to decide between the shocker 4” and a different 5” build since I can’t afford multiple quads atm

[@Klaatu_]

@@viciousavacado4941 If you don't plan on putting a GoPro on I would go with the 4 inch. It is pretty fast, and can get into tight spaces and I think for non fpv people if you fly it in a park will find it less threatening because it is smaller and quieter. If memory serves in JB's video on the two 5 vs 4 I believe he narrowed down the difference to the GoPro example I stated.

[@Bean-Time]

Yay I found the video before the FAA left a dislike.

[@JohnPrineas]

😂

[@jacobreezyfpv6287]

Is there a analog one because that's what I want so bad

[@gman1185]

Joshua, you could use a kubota bx2380 for that compound. mid mower 60", front loader and 48" box blade for that driveway.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Always suspicious of how much you can really do with a box blade on such a light tractor....

[@gman1185]

@@JoshuaBardwell quite a bit, box blades are all about weight and scarifiers, a 4 ft boxblade takes care of my 300 ft 25 percent inclined gravel driveway with no issues.

[@tazgrif11]

Could i use a 1300mah 4s. That's all i have rn.

[@anseljohnson9954]

I think these quads are in 2 completely different classes. the qav-s seems like a long range quad that can do some freestyle and the Shocker is a whole different beast. Some of the best flying I've ever seen from you has been on the shocker.

[@frankoneill8423]

Could this Quad carry a Gopro Hero 7 or a Gopro session ?

[@mikepent3734]

Have a question I have the arris x110 HD and I just did the frost flight and it is beeping like a battery is low but there fully charged and this is about a min into flight do you have any suggestions to y it mite be doing this

[@North49RC]

Is it just a common theme to see a dead cat frame and say its a LR quad, or is it the GPS? And if it is a freestyle quad, why the GPS? Just curious

[@sunnesonne]

If I want to use dji fpv v2 for my main goggles, what adaptor and receiver module should I get?

[@dee1251]

How about 3.5" babyhawk 2 HD sub 250grams?

[@tomasbalek5916]

Do you often go to your fridge and walk away wihout getting anything from it? Jokes aside, another Great video Joshua!!

[@redogg2749]

Something's burning* I Hope it's not me ...😂🙈🤣 Lmfao

[@jamesthomas1224]

I am stuck on tiny whoops but that looks fun

[@soflorclife6970]

I just got into my first 5 inch.... but I still love tiny whoops 🤙🏼

[@SpikeJonesTheCr0oked]

You should look at the Tomoquads PredatorX gen2. Half the weight, true x layout, better camera protection....half the price too.

[@danielrecs]

What do you think about trying the 4" Fouride frame on 2203, both from Kebab? I'd be very interested in your comments. Regarding 4inch freestyle.

[@805fpv3]

I love mowing grass too lol thanks for the high quality content Joshua God bless :)

[@milspec2461]

Thought those clouds looked familiar, chillen over in mt juliet

[@Skankhunt-42-]

I've found what I feel is the best combo. I use the catalyst frame with same motors but low kV. 24-26 mins on 4s 18650 and blindingly fast on 850 6s. Best of both worlds.

[@terpsquirter7107]

What kv motors you use??

[@alwayshathbeen3340]

Mouth-breather. 😂 I’m just bustin your props dude. I really really love all of CMW’s designs. I don’t know why they appeal to me soo much, I can’t put my finger on it. I like the idea of a heavy but really durable quad. I like the thought of having my quad for years and just beating on it indefinitely. My only real build so far is a 3” BangGOD that I sourced all the parts for. I absolutely love it! I think I would also love the 4” Shocker just as much. Edit: You tryin’ to give me an opportunity to win that Shocker from ya??

[@MCsCreations]

I was wondering... Who would be the quadcopters god? 🤔 All I can think is a mix of Apollo (he used to fly in a golden chariot) and Thor... Because of LiPos and high current. 😬 Anyway, great flying, Joshua!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@sanperez313]

May I ask what battery is it on the QAV-S?

[@sanperez313]

nvm got it

[@DigitalArtisan77]

I think 4" sub 250g with a naked gopro will become the new flavour to have soon, prob get the rigidity and weight.

[@SteadfastRC]

Your pool is lookin gnarly JB!

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Nobody swims in the winter. Now that it's warming up we're clearing it out.

[@SteadfastRC]

@@JoshuaBardwell lol just messin bro!

[@jlarson42]

Great flight comparisons. Shocker Woo-hoo speed 🚀👍

[@coooxd]

0:50 why you do me like that mr knowallquads

[@benpryor1245]

Sorry JB but why do you love mowing? Do you see your yard? anyways love the vid

[@chrisburton663]

Love the farm and the flying. I build them can't flyem. CB

[@EnuffsEnuff318]

I thought you were in Kentucky?

[@ragefpv6780]

Been wondering, off topic question, how do you like your scamp?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

It's my wife's. She loves it.

[@ktmjay9920]

Check out mini Apex

[@sandroroth2520]

Is the CMW Shocker 5" frame durable enough for freestyle ? I mean with that low weight you have to make some compromises?

[@avgvstvs96]

Yes, the 5" shocker is basically the most durable light freestyle frame out there, so its good.

[@sandroroth2520]

Thanks

[@rk-rc6045]

Still at least a month or more away from mowing ☹️, it's snowing here Right now 😭 I wanna fly 🤯

[@O.L.D_RC]

👳‍♂️When I looked up at the beginning, your goggles looked like a turban.👳‍♂️ Now I Can't Get It Out Of My HEAD!!! 😂🤣😂🤣😂 👳‍♂️You'll Never Look The Same!👳‍♂️😂👍

[@theduck001]

4 inch is the perfect size to go to the 250g limit (with runcam thumb pro or a naked action cam) . And have more freedom to fly the drone in the EU. At the moment sub 250g with a 5" and action cam is nearly impossible...

[@dsmith4553]

Josh you fixed your fence whyyyyyyy !!!!

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I definitely didn't fix the fence.

[@dsmith4553]

@@JoshuaBardwell where’s the gap gone ??

[@JoshuaBardwell]

It's still there I assure you.

[@SukSukulent]

Oh, JB signature red tape. Wait. I want JB signature red tape :D

[@Rip1Outdoors]

Busy today!

[@Higgie45]

Yes build it....

[@longboarderebright]

i had a 4inch with big motors before it was cool..

[@EnglishTurbines]

Are those glasses you wearing for distance...or reading?....My readers don't work with DJI Goggles...It's why I'm asking🤔🤔🤔🇬🇧

[@SukSukulent]

Someone clip how JB is excited of long grass lol

[@kirbincap8307]

I love mowing 2

[@chrisw3493]

I thought I heard people screaming at each other in the background.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

There were some children playing nearby. They scream a lot.

[@lukeiam0]

Sweet! Interested in all sub250 content you can offer! :)

[@ClareFPV]

Get the Apex 4 inch and you will know what real fun is.

[@KLNYC]

I see cars next to your yard. :)

[@adayatatime3]

Bahaha... that ending tho. Hilarious.

[@Higgie45]

Ii love cutting grass too

[@yannickg6904]

Remember when 4in had no future?

[@CF_Joel]

I like fast!

[@Chio_OB]

5 inch 6s, boom baby!

[@ScottMoore-d2e]

Bins Ways

[@jdd1777]

Sorry but deadcats just look terrible in flight to me. The ass end just lags around on turns, and the rolls are always funky. Reminds me of a tricopter. I guess some people don't mind but I think there are way better options for freestyle.

[@samuelyoung2671]

Qavs mini 3 is supposed to be the sub 250 freestyle, the 4 inch is long range

[@califpv]

Agree 💯%

[@chrisbee5481]

Babyhawk 2?! Sub 250...

[@furrom152]

💎👍👍💎, yeah🤘

[@henshaw7]

your battery is mounted to far back ? lol sorry

[@labetree5362]

Was that mowing comment legit or a joke?

[@timrodriguez1]

🤠👍

[@FailsafeFPV]

first!

[@MHMEDMINE]

شكون من تونس؟؟🇹🇳🇹🇳

[@EnglishTurbines]

Already mowed my grass, our weather is crap though, situation normal...If you start wearing shorts within the next week, I'm unsubscribing you ...lol...🤔🤔😯😯🇬🇧

[@vacatedbroom6237]

4 inch is cool, but it's not 5 inch.. Its hard to explain, but no craft, no matter what you do to it, will fly like a 5 inch.. so 250g limit imposed or not, I'm going to fly whatever I feel like.. especially with the circus of a federal govt, and office of president we're stuck with now