QCTP Holders, Tooling and Setup Tips.

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Joe Pie

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@tmurray1972
@tmurray1972 4 жыл бұрын
The aluminum shim for the height adjustment is an excellent Idea Joe.🤙🏻👌👊🏻
@jameslezak8179
@jameslezak8179 4 жыл бұрын
Another great vid, Joe. I have a 15" Clausing with the CA QCTP. Years of scouring scrap bins and scrap carbide containers yielded quite an assortment of tooling and inserts. Most are based on using the unused corners. Big companies are fairly wasteful with these. Well worth the trouble. Now days carbide has a good scrap price and used inserts are traded at tool crib for new ones with the discards deposited in locked containers. I still had a lot of years to scrounge. Being on a budget I make my own holders for the leftover corners, especially milling cutters. I have boxes on boxes of brazed on carbide tools. Right place at right time. Not much use in an big NC shop any more. Life savers in a home shop, especially since I used so much of it starting out. You showed one I've never seen. The deep holder. I could use one like that. Sounds like my next project. Lol. Good stuff Bro 👍. I really enjoy your vids. Great to see guys like you putting the knowledge out there for free and not looking down on or belittling any one! 😎🇺🇸
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
That 15" with the 'C' size block is a great combo. Ran a setup like that for many years. Moved into a 18-140 gap bed mazak. What a beast. Glad the material helps. I try to keep it real.
@aloristooltech
@aloristooltech Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Joe for using our products and providing such a detailed description. We invite you to visit us again and discover new products that we have available for you to continue developing new ideas.
@Peter-V_00
@Peter-V_00 4 жыл бұрын
All of these seemingly minor details add up to a wealth of knowledge, I want to thank you Joe for being so generous with your wisdom.
@dragonflyfab8982
@dragonflyfab8982 4 жыл бұрын
One hint on qc tooling blocks is to buy a bunch of plastic balls with a threaded insert the same as the height adjustment stud thread. Its a lot more friendly to lift a round plastic ball than a threaded stud. Especially 50 times a day!
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, but would suggest a mushroom style. They feel more comfortable when your hands are wet or sweating.
@TonberryV
@TonberryV 4 жыл бұрын
Man, your shop gems are things we need to start doing in our shop. I'm not sure how well they would work in swiss machines, but that's a good way to save a boatload on carbide.
@johncarey9400
@johncarey9400 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe! I always appreciate your efforts in teaching us! Enjoy your weekend!
@billchiasson2019
@billchiasson2019 4 жыл бұрын
Always look forward to your videos! Because you know you’re going to learn something that you didn’t know! Thanks Joe!.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe . A DCBN tool holder will use the unused corners of that insert as well . It will give you limited facing & makes a good roughing tool . Cheers.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@alexvonbosse5090
@alexvonbosse5090 4 жыл бұрын
Most interesting information on QCTP options! There are a multitude of possible tool options I did not know about! Thanks for sharing and keep up your great work!
@hanni43
@hanni43 4 жыл бұрын
Joe , I even make my own tool holders to utilize every cutting edge ,great video.thanks for taking the time to explain how the little tricks go a long way as far as getting your money's worth , have a great weekend
@metalshopwithtroy5755
@metalshopwithtroy5755 4 жыл бұрын
hi Hanni43 what steel do you use to make your holders out of?
@hanni43
@hanni43 4 жыл бұрын
@@metalshopwithtroy5755 hi Troy ,if I have it A2 tool steel , but to perfectly honest whatever I have in higher carbon , but I surface grind everything nice & flat, once it's made I harden ,over the years it's really saved on buying, have a great weekend
@2dividedby3equals666
@2dividedby3equals666 4 жыл бұрын
I was not aware that Aloris had so many options in their catalog!! You have some really interesting ones there Joe. Thanks so much for sharing and take care!!
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
I've had them for a while. I'm not sure how many are still available, but it good to show options.
@apollorobb
@apollorobb 4 жыл бұрын
I love my TPG tool holders i have several. They do move some material . My Face mills all use TPG inserts . Great Video Joe
@stufields5125
@stufields5125 4 жыл бұрын
I have BXA 250-201 and 250-202. I had already installed some cutting tools and was unable to see the groove in the 202. Thanks to you, I now know the difference. Good source for information for this graduate engineer finally learning how to operate machines and something about the ART involved.
@kaakeith3772
@kaakeith3772 3 жыл бұрын
as the new owner of a '56 Myford Super 7 in (really good condition), i am happy to be a new subsubscriber, you have given me more good information in the 5 videos i have watched so far, than in any of the dozens of others i've waded through. thx joe
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@kaakeith3772
@kaakeith3772 3 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 as a canadian cousin, i also appreciated your psa. we hear grim things up here about things down there, nice to know somebody is actually paying attention. looking forward to making swarf
@bobwas4066
@bobwas4066 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video I never thought about adding a block under the tool holder to get the tool high enough to adjust on center Brilliant!! I milled out the bottom of the tool holder but barely had enough left for rigidity Thanks for great ideas
@gaildimick1831
@gaildimick1831 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! That was fun, more knowledge than I can take in with only one watching. Will watch again. God Bless
@eyuptony
@eyuptony 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the interesting information on other types of holders available. Another good point to see you've got your tool holders stored on a rack at the back of your lathe and not directly behind the chuck, in the muck. Nice one Joe.
@DonDegidio
@DonDegidio 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, Thanks for this very informative video. Stay safe.
@christurley391
@christurley391 4 жыл бұрын
Nice selection you have. That shell mill was on my shopping list before they got out of the machining biz at work. Too bad I had a few pounds of inserts to feed it. Thanks for the video Joe.
@fredgenius
@fredgenius 4 жыл бұрын
VERY useful video, thanks Joe.
@AnthonyGriz
@AnthonyGriz 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love those Shop Gems!!!!
@richardcranium5839
@richardcranium5839 4 жыл бұрын
great video but a suggestion- explain the difference in the sizes of tool posts. you are running a bxa and a lot of your tool adjustments are low. instead of your block you talked about maybe originally tooling a cxa would have been better. i never knew what those letters meant till i researched buying one for my little lathe. also for a newbie it might help someone get the right stuff the first time. and explaining a button from a wedge.
@tedmattingly7564
@tedmattingly7564 4 жыл бұрын
Once again, a very informative video, thank you
@gordondowdy833
@gordondowdy833 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome info! I am all about saving $ and utilizing limited tool access. You the man, thanks!
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@rldoyle5705
@rldoyle5705 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips and your time
@PaulSteMarie
@PaulSteMarie 4 жыл бұрын
I almost bought that exact knurling tool. I wound up with a Eagle Rock clamp knurler, which works pretty well but it's really difficult to change the knurls. Those boring holders only come in two sizes for a particular QCTP size. They come with split bushings. I made a whole bunch of rigid bushings for small boring bars, and bought one pass through sleeve bushing for a 5/8" boring bar. The pass through sleeve allows the set screws from the holder to pass through the bushing and go directly against the flat on the top of the bar, making it a whole lot easier to line everything up.
@ROBRENZ
@ROBRENZ 4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Joe! #35 and #53 are two of my favorites but only because my toolpost is aligned and locked on a solid block instead of the compound., ATB, Robin
@markjohnson9884
@markjohnson9884 4 жыл бұрын
On the CCMT inserts you can purchase additional tool holders that are design too use those corners not typically used on that insert. The holders are SCSCR, SCBCR, and SCKCR. Micro 100 is one of the few US companies that make those holder, however there are a lot of import companies that make them. Thanks for the time and effort you put into making your video series, Mark
@metalshopwithtroy5755
@metalshopwithtroy5755 4 жыл бұрын
Joe I appreciate what you did yes you did give me some pointers and improved the scope of my options at the same time. very good video production and presentation too. I also noticed that you have skinnied your kennametal tool bars too. I think i need to have another go at the one i discussed with you. Thanks alot Joe sincerely Troy Guyette
@matspatpc
@matspatpc 4 жыл бұрын
As usual, well explained. For anyone just getting into using carbide (particularly as a hobby user), I definitely would recommend selecting a small number of insert shape - may not get away with just one, but having ALL the different shapes is definitely not necessary, and getting several tool holders for the same insert, and not get one of each of the different shape inserts. That way, you don't have to buy 3-4 different shapes and 3-4 different grades (chip breaker styles, etc) for different materials, different corner radius, etc. This is similar to the idea of re-using inserts for milling when they are gone on the lathe. (I'm rather rubbish at following my own advice, so I have pretty much all of the xNMG insert shapes in my collection by now and a left and right, a few different boring bars and one "use the odd corners of CNMG inserts for chamfering"). I could definitely do with a lesson in grinding HSS tools from square/rectangular tool blanks.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Carbide inserts can get expensive, and most home shops will never get them to the environment they are designed to perform best at.
@matspatpc
@matspatpc 4 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 Yes, absolutely. Which is exactly why my advice is to find one "shape" that works for multiple tools and more than one use (the TNMG, WNMG and CNMG are good, VNMG and DNMG less good, for example - there are also CCMT, TCMT, etc that are often good in a hobby machine). It's also better on a larger lathe, not one of those little ones. At least then your rather expensive box of ten works for several different cuts, rather than just the one type of cutting... :) I have found that I can find Sandvik inserts from Amazon for like $30 per pack of 10 - not all the time, and not all combinations of shapes, sizes, chip breaker, etc. It's no point, to me at least, in buying the "coarse" or "roughing" tooling, because my lathe can not take 2.5mm (100 thou) depth of cut with a feed of 0.5mm (20 thou) at anything like the sfm required. So finishing inserts, maybe "medium cut" ones at a push. There's also good sources on Ebay, for "opened, but unused" or "unused, unopened" packs. Not for everyone, that's for sure. But it also means you can get on with the lathe-work, rather than trying to make the right shape on a HSS toolbit. At least you then know it is JUST a matter of finding the right combination of feed and speed, rather than having to figure out "did I grind this the wrong angle" as well... :) Also, I found that the cheap ones on Ebay, Amazon that takes 3 weeks to arrive from China are, as a rule, worth less than you pay for them. They break if you look at them the wrong way, never mind making rookie mistakes of taking a heavier cut or not stopping soon enough on a shoulder (yeah, not a perfect lathe operator, still learning). Much better to get Sandvik, Kennametal, Iscar and the likes. Yes, you pay 2-5 times as much, but they last at least 10 times longer.
@jamesdavis8021
@jamesdavis8021 4 жыл бұрын
I bought the same Aloris knurling tool holder. I love it. I don’t think it has the capacity of the scissor type but,it is a awesome tool.
@ValExperimenter
@ValExperimenter 4 жыл бұрын
Great tips, one of those tool racks is now on my build list. I use the other corners of cubic inserts, 15 degree turning and boring tools work well for stock removal and it is easy to find tools with this angle that use the other edge. You gained a subscriber.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Welcome aboard.
@Rx7man
@Rx7man 4 жыл бұрын
I made a hanging tool rack for mine, just a piece of U shaped channel, depending on how many tools you have, about 2 ft is good, well screwed into the wall behind the lathe (but a little down-bed from the chuck)
@apistosig4173
@apistosig4173 2 жыл бұрын
Remarkably insightful - thanks for sharing your passion and knowledge.
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, second or third time watching this, always great information........I love your sound effect whistle...... Cheers from Florida, Paul
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching Paul.
@raymondhorvatin1050
@raymondhorvatin1050 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe I did the same thing with my shars QTP put a 3/8" plate underneath and solved the height problem an d stiffened it up a bit
@Steve_Just_Steve
@Steve_Just_Steve 4 жыл бұрын
If you go to the next size up it'll be even more rigid, but I understand "run whatcha' brung"
@bpark10001
@bpark10001 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding tool height, I have the opposite problem you have. My tools won't go LOW enough on my Maximat 11. (Maximat 11 carriage was designed to serve as milling table in addition to lathe toolpost. That makes it a little higher, but permits coarse adjustment of tool post, which is most useful for large work!) I have taken tool holders & milled some off the BOTTOM (versus your adding spacer plate under the post to raise it) so I can get the tool "down to" center. I am using AXA1 system, which is the smallest offered. Those parting blocks are way too high on my lathe. I note that you have machined a lot of your holders (evidenced by milling marks on hardened steel & lack of bluing). It would be most informative for you to make a video about this. I am sure each one has a long & interesting story behind it!
@erikisberg3886
@erikisberg3886 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and tips! I am also a long time user of tpg:s , find them flexible for manual work. I can usually buy them real cheap around here. I grew up with the Swedish "Bergstrom" toolposts , similar concept to Aloris. I now like the multifix system much better, use the B size on my lathe. Seems like the setup with the splines is more rigid and repeats better for me. The main disadvantage is the size and weight of the individual toolholders when handling them. The ability to quickly change the tool angle in 9 deg increments is nice. I simply dont get why they divided 90 deg into 10 parts instead of 12 divisions though.
@steelforestweldingandforge
@steelforestweldingandforge Жыл бұрын
Very helpfull video, thank you for posting.
@busterdavy9769
@busterdavy9769 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting,didn’t know they made so many holders! Yukon👍
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Yes they do. How much money ya got??
@richardfuerst5286
@richardfuerst5286 4 жыл бұрын
👍 another great video.
@philmenzies2477
@philmenzies2477 4 жыл бұрын
For my boring bar holder I made a bar with a dovetail mount on the end to suit my dial indicators. Great for awkward reaching that mag bases struggle with. It gets more use as that than as a boring bar holder
@josha9620
@josha9620 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video with that threading tool being used!! I have never seen one like that I believe it was the 2nd one in the video!!
@ianbertenshaw4350
@ianbertenshaw4350 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Joe! Buying insert tooling can be a real trap for new guys especially for the home shop machinist /hobbyist especially when buying a tool set as some if not most will use a few different types of inserts and some of those inserts especially the small ones for small machines can be difficult to get . I have a set which uses 3 different styles of insert - one is not available through the place i bought the set from which irritates me to death ! I did have a set for a lathe i no longer have that used TCMT insert in everything so i only had to buy a pack of one style of insert - life was easy back then !
@jonsworkshop
@jonsworkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video Joe, great tips, lots of ideas for my own shop and future projects for my channel. I have just bought some 01 to make some QCTP holders, I was going to go standard slot, but I will hold some mareial back for some specials based on what you have shown here, thanks. Keep em coming. Cheers, Jon
@RRINTHESHOP
@RRINTHESHOP 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review, Thanks Joe.
@dougberrett8094
@dougberrett8094 4 жыл бұрын
Good show. Quick change tool holders offer a huge variety of set up options. There is no doubt they are the way to go for many, especially hobby machinists. I have both piston and wedge style posts for both of my lathes. Wedge has won out, but the piston ones make a backup. I must admit however, it took a long time for me to warm up to the QC way. For production work, a high quality multi-detent four way has many advantages. When the four way can move in fixed steps, the time to “set” each tool becomes moot because it is so much faster to spin the holder. One cutting edge can do a variety of cuts because you can alter the angle it makes by using the detents. Perhaps DROs have messed with this approach. I don’t know. The lathes I did production work on all had Trav-A-dials. I know dating myself here.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
The trav a dial was a great attachment in its time. I used one for many years. It was a fantastic alternative to a DRO.
@dougberrett8094
@dougberrett8094 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Pieczynski I have one that has seen better days. Got it used and free from a Baker Hughes shop. Have not tried to resurrect it. I got good at timing the rotation of the dial, not sure if it is possible to time the flashing numbers of a DRO. Being old school with emphasis on old, I have yet to decide if I really need a DRO. If one for lathes came with a digital display that mimicked the dial I would be more interested.
@paulmorrey733
@paulmorrey733 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe Loads of holders I have not seen before Cheers
@ralphf8951
@ralphf8951 4 жыл бұрын
Great information. Thanks for the nice video.
@ajdogcurr1
@ajdogcurr1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. Nice clean orderly shop you got there. Good information for a beginner like me.
@rtkville
@rtkville 4 жыл бұрын
Another very informative video, thank you Joe and I did learn quite alot.
@TAWPTool
@TAWPTool 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video Joe! Thanks for sharing!
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Guy. Thanks for watching. I hope all is well.
@jonbartlett4998
@jonbartlett4998 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe. Great video! I appreciate the info and all your tips & advice.
@barrycass2284
@barrycass2284 4 жыл бұрын
Joe your teaching is great. You should of been a shop teacher I lean so much off your video's. I'am just a hobbest who likes to turn, mill and brack stuff mostly endmills. I never even seen BXA-16 before , but I tell just looking at them. There not cheep like me. Lol but they are very cool. I love the leaning part of a Machinist but I don,t like how much it,s costing me. I was really intimidated about cutting threads a little hands on and know big deal. I would think gear cutting is the same. Nothing I do is 100 % but good a nuff for me. Well anyhow keep up the awsome work. Thanks.
@RobB_VK6ES
@RobB_VK6ES 4 жыл бұрын
Joe it seems like your Colchester might have paired up better with the next sized QC tool post. Did you choose the smaller post for the type of work you do, perhaps it was a carryover from a previous lathe or simply for the economics of the smaller series? The TPG inserts are fantastic for light to medium turning but work out being expensive in the hands of a less skilled operator working in steel. Double sided inserts are much cheaper to run, stronger and in my experience are the best insert style for general working shop usage. For the newbies or those transitioning from HSS your description of the double sided inserts as being "negative rake" could cause confusion. A negative SEAT rake does not necessarily mean negative cutting geometry and as you know the cutting geometry is what really matters. In fact I can see a good excuse to make a video explaining the ISO naming convention for various insert shapes and sizes.
@carlwhite8225
@carlwhite8225 4 жыл бұрын
Joe, another great lesson,Thanks.
@captcarlos
@captcarlos 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Carl! It startles me when I see your/my name.. And we seem to have very similar interests. I live in Australia, you? Just sayn'.
@AirGunnerrr
@AirGunnerrr 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful Video Thank you for sharing... 😎
@joepie221
@joepie221 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for visiting
@strongspeed
@strongspeed Жыл бұрын
great explanation- i just bought one to replace my ancient lantern toolpost
@joepie221
@joepie221 Жыл бұрын
You'll love it.
@edwardwilson990
@edwardwilson990 4 жыл бұрын
Nice tips and tricks, I appreciate them. I had your shop gem figured out already, I'm pretty cheap... err, frugal. 😁
@somebodyelse6673
@somebodyelse6673 4 жыл бұрын
Those toolholders that directly hold the inserts actually make a difference in rigidity for bench lathes. I can make cuts with them that used to chatter badly on my little 618 Atlas.
@Steve_Just_Steve
@Steve_Just_Steve 4 жыл бұрын
Joe wouldn't you say using the next size up in holders would be a better option than raising the smaller post when possible? Thanks for vid!
@robertlark7751
@robertlark7751 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you do a video on selecting the correct insert holder for different inserts and vice versa.
@jansverrehaugjord9934
@jansverrehaugjord9934 4 жыл бұрын
Learned a whole lot.. great video!
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the idea tour.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@skipgoryews1356
@skipgoryews1356 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Joe Thanks for that info ! some of that I did not know . did you say 40 years ? ha ha ! you sure do not look that old ! I am 73 and I look it ! Stay young and do not get hurt !
@joepie221
@joepie221 2 жыл бұрын
At least 40. I've been doing this full time since 1976. I'll be 64 this year. :) Right about now, I feel like 100.
@tonymiller8826
@tonymiller8826 2 жыл бұрын
Last place I worked they were always throwing out those inserts with 4 good edges on them even though they had holders to use them. I'd always get the other holder and collect several inserts from the scrap bin to do heavy roughing.
@joepie221
@joepie221 2 жыл бұрын
Each unused corner is money your throwing away. Always use the whole thing, even if it means getting another holder to do so.
@bigmotter001
@bigmotter001 4 жыл бұрын
Great info.... Thanks for the tips and take care.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@chriswaddell9011
@chriswaddell9011 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your great videos I learn so much each time. I am a hobby machinist in the UK with a midsize Chinese import lathe and would like to upgrade to QCTP. Any comments on the merits/faults of the different types of post would be greatly appreciated. There seam to be 3 different types available the wedge type similar to the Aloris, a piston type, and cam type that pulls the tool holder back against a register and locks against the height adjusting screw.
@baron42bba
@baron42bba 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Waddell Aloris Type has the advantage that you might be able to make your own holders. On the other hand I am quite happy with my Multifix from Pewetools in AS size for my Chinese Bernardo 750. As always: with time the price Fades but the joy of good quality stays.
@scruffy4647
@scruffy4647 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the Bxa 1s to accommodate my 3/4” tool holders.
@joecookesr.7396
@joecookesr.7396 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Phase II QCTP on my 13" LeBlond lathe. The tool holder numbers begin with 250. Do you know if the Aloris BXA holders will interchange, and is that an acceptable thing to do? Or, should I just stick with the Phase II holders and tools? And once again - THANK YOU SO MUCH for sharing your knowledge with us! Yourself, Quinn and James are my machining heros!
@joepie221
@joepie221 2 жыл бұрын
I really can't comment on the interchangeability between the 2 brands. If you're just looking for the name brand and no other reason, I'd stick with what I have unless they don't perform as you expect. Thanks for the compliment.
@stevencohen4580
@stevencohen4580 4 жыл бұрын
Great tips cheers.
@brandontscheschlog
@brandontscheschlog 4 жыл бұрын
The BXA13 (extended tool holder) is great for working close to a large diameter live center where the tool post could interfere.
@Willyslikey
@Willyslikey 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Joe
@angelramos-2005
@angelramos-2005 4 жыл бұрын
Good video,Joe.Thank you
@caseysmith1718
@caseysmith1718 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen where people have milled a dovetail directly into the insert holder itself, negating the need to spend additional money on more QCTP holders. Never used it myself, but seems like a nifty trick
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Just add an adjuster and off ya go.
@WeTrudgeOn
@WeTrudgeOn 4 жыл бұрын
I got a bunch of 1.5" square Kennametal tools in an auction, I planned on milling them down to fit my .750 tool holders. Then I thought why not cut out the middle man and just cut a dovetail to fit the post right in the tools? So I did and they work fantastic, they are extremely rigid.
@10-4CodyWade
@10-4CodyWade Жыл бұрын
How do you set the tool height?
@WeTrudgeOn
@WeTrudgeOn Жыл бұрын
@@10-4CodyWade I have a fixture I milled out to set all my tools to center height.
@rosshimebauch3769
@rosshimebauch3769 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever used a KDK tool post. It is superior to Aloris. KDK has two independent height adjustments. and I have never needed a height adjustment adapter. Once I put in a longer height adjustment set screw when using a small holder on a big tool post.
@joepie221
@joepie221 2 жыл бұрын
No. I may have to look at them.
@pb68slab18
@pb68slab18 2 жыл бұрын
I bought 5 of the Chinese knock-off Aloris AXA size holders on Ebay. Not bad, replaced the junk set screws with Unbrako. But not a single one had a height adjustment stud (M10) that was perfectly square.
@David-hm9ic
@David-hm9ic Жыл бұрын
A little late here; at 3:30 as the holder is rotated and the light hits it just right there's a faint "N" at the end of BXA16N.
@garthbutton699
@garthbutton699 4 жыл бұрын
This is good info for those that use this type tooling,unfortunatelI I'm stuck in the dark ages with high speed steel,left,right and straight tool holders using lantern style tool post,but I don't mind,it gets the job.😂
@roysmith3198
@roysmith3198 4 жыл бұрын
Don't feel bad, your ahead of me, I don't even have a machine yet. But now at least I'll know what I can't afford.
@edwinjidat8885
@edwinjidat8885 4 жыл бұрын
Make ur own quick changes tool post and insert holder. Few years ago, i made them, and still using right now.
@fredevindoortega2403
@fredevindoortega2403 4 жыл бұрын
Me gusta su video ya que presenta nueva ideas y sugerencia que es muy interesante. No hablo muy bien el ingles pero trato de entender y a la vez es muy importante para mi.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Entiendo suficiente español para saber que encontraste el video interesante. Gracias por ver.
@UncleMattsGarage
@UncleMattsGarage 2 жыл бұрын
I have 1947 Southbend 14 1/2 swing lathe with a 7 ft bed. Looking at the quick changes, both BXA and CXA fall in the range for my swing. It has the lantern style on it now and contemplating the upgrade. BXA is towards the Max and CXA is towards the min for their respective ranges. I am only putting an Aloris on it, she doesn't get any cost cutting corners taken on her. Which one would you get and why?
@stevecothren7527
@stevecothren7527 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Joe, Another hit, Thanks a lot please keep-em coming. Question: do you check all of your tool holders and if so how close are they from the supplier. I'm asking about the higher quality brands like the Aloris and Dorian. I seems a shame to pay good money for good tool holders and have to "Fix" them out of the box since they are not inexpensive. Thanks Again!!
@anthonytammer9214
@anthonytammer9214 4 ай бұрын
Aloris also makes a toolholder that is able to take 3/4 square tools: There is a letter "S" after the toolholder number. I have a set of wonderful Ingersol toolholders, but they require the S Aloris toolholder, being 3/4" square.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 ай бұрын
Aloris has several size block sets. A couple of them take the 3/4", but I don't think its standard on the A & B series.
@CraigLYoung
@CraigLYoung 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@BasementEngineer
@BasementEngineer 2 жыл бұрын
When I got my new-to-me EMCO Maier V10P lathe in 1991, I quickly became sick and tired of fooling around with shims to get the tools to centre height. At that time I couldn't justify a commercial quick change tool post; thus I made my own. I used 1/4-20-UNC socket head cap screws for the tool clamps, but quickly tired of these because the socket would fill with swarf that sometimes refused to come out. At a flea marked one vendor had a small tin can full of 1/4-20-UNC square head set screws. I offered 1/2 the asking price and we haggled a little. Still, the price was quite low. The surprising thing about these screws was their hardness. They appear to be case hardened and will mark a high speed steel blank. Further, the dimension of the square head was also 1/4" across the flats; this was handy because i could use a 1/4" socket extension rod for the wrench. OH yes, these were cup point screws, and I ground off the sharp edge of the cup. I still have, and use, that tool post today. I black oxide finished the post and the 30 tool holders, and that finish is beginning to wear off now.
@joepie221
@joepie221 2 жыл бұрын
How does a 1/4-20 set screw have the mass for a 1/4" drive feature? Did they have shoulders?
@BasementEngineer
@BasementEngineer 2 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 The screws I have do not have a flange between the thread and the square head. I conclude that the screws were either machined from 1/4" A/F square stock or, the round stock had the end upset to form the square. I lean towards the latter because the surface finish on the square sides is not as good as I would expect on square drawn/rolled steel.
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe....well done as always... PB
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown 4 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 Joe Pie, I forward your videos to worthy friends, you are a wealth of information....wish I had my 15" Triumph 2000 Back from the guy who never paid me for it. Cheers, Paul in Orlando....
@norwegiangadgetman
@norwegiangadgetman 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could afford those Kennametal tools, and that they fit my Lathe... Good tip about using the 'unused' corners of an insert in a milling tool or a different holder in the lathe. Not that I have any scrap carbides, yet... My QCTP is AXA size, I think. Small... (often sold as 250-000 on Chinesium sites) and the holder can't hold thicker than 12mm tools. Still better than the 4poster that came with the lathe. It couldn't hold better than 8mm tools. (SIEG SC2 mini lathe. ) I have 4 '1' holders right now, but have 5 '1' and a '2' on order right now. I think that should hold me for a while. But... this isn't my first QCTP. I first bought the SIEG QCTP from the local distributor, and it came with 3 holders. And... couldn't order more holders anywhere! That sucked. Sure, I could have made do with those 3, but they were also a bit awkward, and if I had to replace the tool in one of the holders all the time, I just decided to ditch it. (I'm pretty certain it was quicker to change a tool in the 4poster than to replace a tool holder on the QCTP... Yeah, that awkward) There's a 'mini lathe' QCTH on the market, with similarly-looking holders, but where the adjustment wheel is gold-coloured. It's pretty easy to mistake those for the 250-series. My toolholders are 250-001 and 002, and there exists others, including a 250-010 knurling holder, too. But there's a 250-1xx series holders, also, and of course, as they're sold by Chinese who doesn't know the difference between a tool holder and a wombat emasculator, it's impossible to find out what the difference is. I probably have to actually buy one...
@toolbox-gua
@toolbox-gua 4 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@anthonyfleenor3642
@anthonyfleenor3642 Жыл бұрын
Very good tips
@jeffpitzer8521
@jeffpitzer8521 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video!..thanks!
@firearmsstudent
@firearmsstudent 4 жыл бұрын
9:50 I'd imagine that you could turn that into a 1" die holder to thread a long shaft instead of using a tail stock die holder, which only allows a small section.
@frankinpattaya
@frankinpattaya 3 жыл бұрын
Joe, can you show us the best way to center your tool on a quick change tool holder. Regards Frank
@artmckay6704
@artmckay6704 2 жыл бұрын
Great tips! I really like the idea of using EVERY corner on cutting inserts. Why waste perfectly good corners? Couldn't agree more! :)
@joepie221
@joepie221 2 жыл бұрын
Once that light goes on, it makes perfect sense.
@artmckay6704
@artmckay6704 2 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 :)
@owenclark7210
@owenclark7210 4 жыл бұрын
I have the opposite problem with my OXA QCTP post mounted on my 7x12 lathe - I almost can't get my tools low enough to get them on center. My parting/grooving tool is almost at the very bottom of its adjustment range in order to get the top of the blade on center. As far as having a lot of holders, I just added another 6 OXA 001 tool holders to my drawer, bringing me up to 11. Still not enough holders for my liking, as I keep making new tools. The biggest goldmine of tooling and accessories I have found for my hobby lathes is Littlemachineshop.com out of Pasadena. Canadian exchange rate sucks, but they are the best source of supplies for these size machines I have found so far
@wwilcox2726
@wwilcox2726 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the referral
@owenclark7210
@owenclark7210 4 жыл бұрын
@@wwilcox2726 You're very welcome
@daltonwatson5839
@daltonwatson5839 3 жыл бұрын
@@owenclark7210 I'm upgrading my 9x20 from an OXA to AXA. If you need to get the tools lower get smaller tools (3/8 instead of 1/2) or take material off the bottom of the tool shank. That will lower the tool in the holder. That's what I'm having to do
@Mtematiks
@Mtematiks 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Pie new video! Not time to go to bed yet :))) Its 2 o'clock in the morning, but still !
@rockerpat1085
@rockerpat1085 4 жыл бұрын
It's 5:48 P.M in Houston!!!
@nder12345
@nder12345 4 жыл бұрын
8 48 am in Australia
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
You guys are the best.
@ManicSalamander
@ManicSalamander 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I have a quick-change, but was not aware of the variety.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
There's a bunch.
@armindapereira4433
@armindapereira4433 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, just got one more subscriber.
@joepie221
@joepie221 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@joeschuster2837
@joeschuster2837 3 жыл бұрын
Love this video. What size tool thanks do I use in a BXA tool post holder?
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
I go from 1/4" to 5/8"
@joeschuster2837
@joeschuster2837 3 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 thank you
@curtisvonepp4335
@curtisvonepp4335 4 жыл бұрын
Joe . Try carbide incert parting tool blade's Sanvik , Iscar , kenametal and Full profile triangle incerts CarMax ..🐤🐤
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