Qidi X-Max 3 review. A big build volume enclosed 3d printer

The Qidi X-Max3 is a fast core XY printer that can compete, and possibly surpass, the Bambu Labs X1 and P1P series. In this video I look over the Xmax3’s features (including the addition of Klipper firmware), as well as some of the drawbacks (like the low included internal memory). Are you looking for a large build volume printer, that can produce fast prints, print at a high temperature, and includes active chamber heat? If so this new 3d printer from Qidi might be fit for you.
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[@aaron7545]

Thank you for the review. I appreciate the further depth you go into versus other channels that just print a few models and comment on superficial level issues. Impressed you were able to do so with a concise 21 minutes.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Aaron thank you so much, it's not easy! I tend to be very wordy so I write down as much of a script (or talking points) as I can and then try and streamline it. I have a Google document with something like 7,000 words on it right now 😂 I don't want anyone wasting money, so when I review anything I like to get as much time as possible with the product. Thanks for watching and for the confidence boost !

[@thepyromaniac78]

I just watch for your enthusiasm on 3d printers. Keep up the good work 👏

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Yea I absolutely love this stuff, I'm glad it shows. Thanks for watching!

[@alejandromendiola5230]

Very useful review - thank you. This got me down the whole calibration journey on my new X-Max 3...the calibration tutorial in Orca is really useful too!

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Yea this combined with Orca is a real powerhouse! This printer is still going strong for me. Accurate , fast, and reliable.

[@modelmaker2001]

Excellent review. You covered a lot of stuff and in-depth. Very much appreciated!

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Thank you very much! I never like to rush my reviews because I want to make this videos not only in depth, but I try and cover some of the 'longevity' issues we may encounter. So I thank you for watching and proving some feedback!

[@farinohockey]

great review, very informative and the speaker is not too hard on the eyes either. can't wait to start printing with this bad boy

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Thanks for watching and leaving a nice comment. This printer has been great for me and I hope it works out well for you. I would say the first print should probably be a pair of spectacles though lol..

[@richardwillcox4097]

I'm pleased I watched you video. I like the idea with Ikea cabinet, and their nice and cheap, will save me having to make one. I've watch a lot of reviews on the QiDI max 3 your is the most practical !

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Richard thanks a lot! I try and give these reviews a more 'how I've been using it feel' and less a definitive this print is good or bad feel. These printers are all good nowadays and a lot of the important points are how they fit for you and how you can assimilate them into your normal 3d printing workflow, or create your workflow if you're new to printing. Thanks for watching and I appreciate the comment !!

[@Havoc7991s]

This is extremely helpful. I've been looking for a printer for a while. All of my ideas are rather large, and the print space of this monster is really nice. The other great part of the machine is that it has an enclosure, and I can possibly print a new exhaust vent to except a dryer hose to vent outside. As far G codes go, coding hasn't ever been an issue with me and I love the idea that it isn't Black and White. The freedom to change it to my needs is a great thing that others should invest in even if they don't have the understanding. There's plenty of people out there that are willing to teach you, just ask.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

This printer has a ton of great qualities and if you decide to purchase it I hope it works as well for you as it has for me! The build volume and the Klipper firmware offer a ton of freedom to print what you want how you want to. As for venting I would recommend looking into some form of added filtration . There is a small carbon filter bag that Qidi offers, a long with a vent fan, but it's hard to tell the efficacy. Looking for greater forms of filtration is always a smart option. Good luck and if you need help let me know!

[@KriegZombie]

I just ordered one. Thanks for the intel.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

This has been a great printer for me since I've gotten it. I'm actually reviewing the Q1 Pro right now which is building on all the great qualities of this machine. Good luck and have fun!

[@DatMammut76]

I love this printer so damn much

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Yea same. This has been such a great printer for me. So excited to see what else Qidi can do!

[@patrickbateman580]

It’s always a nice treat when Mr. Leo posts a new informative video 😊. Mr. Leo, how did you get the singer from Big Wet to wear the Mandalorian helmet? Also does size matter when using a hard nozzle vs a soft nozzle?

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Well Patrick big wet and I are very very close friends lol no that's not big wet, it's actually a cowboy friend of mine. As for the nozzles, it all depends on the application , I would say make sure to 'preheat' before you attempt any extruding . Thanks again!

[@Kev7274]

I have to stop watching these videos. You make me want to buy more printers.😁 Thanks for all that you do Leo.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Thanks Kev! I'll keep making them if you keep watching them 👍

[@Kev7274]

😁@@PrintsLeo3D

[@klave8511]

Great review and thanks for raising those points. I did not know that my prints would be detoured through Bambu labs. Not sure what use it would be to control my printer remotely, I do use a shared printer but always have to visit it to remove a print and cleanup for the next one in the queue. I watch remotely but that’s me being impatient. I appreciate your flow rate tests, it’s a step I never do but then I don’t print with Klipper so likely don’t need to know the maximum. I will be trying a flow test, there must be a reason some filaments print worse than others.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Thanks ! Using the printer remotely has been invaluable for me. Usually the use case for me is that I get home from my normal 9-5 job, remove a print, and then start a new one. When I get up in the morning I'll remove an overnight print but I usually won't have time to slice (or even think lol) a new print to start. So I can leave the house and then access it from work or during some down time time and start a print, it check in on a print that I did get a chance to start. This way if something is going bad with the print I can cancel it while I'm away, and the printer doesn't get messed up or continue to chew through filament for no reason. Flow calibration can be useful for any printer, to make sure you aren't moving the print head faster than it can melt filament. Certainly a worthwhile calibration to look at! Thanks again !

[@Horsenb]

Just as Leo says in his reply If nothing else its a valuable tool to allow you to abort failed prints.

[@3DPrintSOS]

The man, the myth, the legend. Great overview and in-depth look at this beast of a machine!

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Thanks brother! I got your new Ender 3 video ready to enjoy when I get off from work tonight ! Appreciate the love 👍

[@Mark-oh4vu]

Great video, my final push to buy one lol. Just so you know, it is possible to run Bambu printers without everything going to Bambu. You can use them in local network only mode and then if you have a little bit of networking knowledge you just block their web access and done. Thanks again for the review.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Hey Mark thanks for the info! I know Bambu was taking strides to try and sperate their printers from their online services, so I'm not surprised there's some work around. That being said the XMax3 has been an awesome printer for me and is still continuing to rock!

[@mattspawn1975]

Appreciate the vid! How's it holding up 7 months later? Still recommend? Any new generation, large format printers you recommend more?

[@sheetpostmodernist398]

Really good review, and interesting to see the upgrades Qidi have made over the past few years. I've been using the original X-Max I bought in 2019, and it's been a solid performer, but I am considering whether the upgrades to Klipper (monitoring, Octoprint, camera capability, etc) would be worth diving into. Can't say I like the back-mounted spool, but that would be fairly easy to re-locate. I think my biggest interest is getting something with a higher speed though. Right now, a standard 0.2mm layer Benchy takes about an hour to put out, and the majority of my prints are 0.1mm layers. I tend to fight a lot against ringing, since I'm printing lots of parts with small details that leave ripples in the model around them. The large prints you did look like they're almost completely free of those sorts of artifacts.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Qidi actual has a printable spool mount to move the spool from the rear to the side, but with the runout sensor in the back there's a little more that needs adapting lol this printer has been great for me and you're right about the quality. The led light bar that's mounted in the enclosure is the worst lighting possible for 3d prints (quality-wise) but they still look great. Then when you get them in real world lighting they look amazing. I'm happy with the quality this has given me and most of all the reliability. Truly I can slice anything, send it to the printer, and then just come back whenever it's done to break it free from the build plate

[@garrettmancuso4417]

Even my first gen Qidi x-plus has wifi printing via Qidiprint/Cura. They've always been ahead of the times.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

This has been my first experience with a Qidi printer (not counting the time I spent with the X-Plus before they revamped it) and I am very impressed. This XMax3 is continuing to churn out consistent high quality prints of varying material types. Certainly going to be watching them closely and keep an eye on their printer lineup.

[@raymondwhitman]

Chalk up another great video, lighting did not seem to be an issue for me, just trying to not rush out and buy another printer, She might Divorce me if i spend more again lol. But she does love the models I now print.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Raymond trust me I'm in the same boat 😂 I had to start making these videos just so she let me buy a few more lol I think you're right about the lighting too, but the time I was done editing I didn't think it was all too bad either. I appreciate it!

[@ericcartman1749]

Thanks for the review, this printer looks very interesting. I've never heard of it before this video. What's about accelerometer in it, does it built in?

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Yea the accelerometer is built into the hot end. The hot end itself has its own MCU that is connected through CanBus and that's where the accelerometer is housed. I'm probably going to follow this video up with some more photos and answers when I post it to my website

[@ericcartman1749]

That's great. Printer seems more interesting now👍 thanks

[@justinerigali3236]

Thank you!!!

[@PrintsLeo3D]

You're welcome! Thanks for watching and for leaving a comment, means a lot!

[@nickreif7010]

definitely an informative video. I would have liked to see some pictures of the flow rate towers before, and after installing cht nozzle. Also a visual comparison between that, and the factory nozzle would have been interestng. i have read the cht nozzle is longer than the factory qidi nozzle qidi advertises 35 mm flow, i wonder what is causing it to fall so short i already ordered mine. i'm looking forward to doing some tinkering when it finally ships

[@PrintsLeo3D]

You make a great point. I had so much time with this printer and so much I wanted to say/show, I knew there would be some stuff I wouldn't be able to truly showcase, but comments like yours let me know I should make extra effort to highlight those in the future. The CHT nozzles were 21mm (I believe) and if I remember correctly the stock nozzles were only 19mm. It ended up leaving me a z offset of under 1mm which I wasn't too happy with, but it printed just fine for me while I was using it. Someone in the discord led me on to some nozzle inserts for this hot end. It's basically a 10mm thread that you screw in hot end to add length, and then you can use regular non-volcanp style cht nozzles. My just came in the mail so I haven't used them yet, but that seems to be like the way to go.

[@nickreif7010]

@@PrintsLeo3D i appreciate the response! i think that 10mm adaptor should work great! ill likely buy both 21mm and standard with adaptor, to see if there are any advantages. ideally, i would like to see flow rates hit the advertised 30-35 mm/s. i feel this printer is very capable and it would be a shame to not take advantage of those capabilities

[@davidboop3550]

Man I just subscribed. Wish I would have found you months ago. Left a comment on your video from 3 months ago about pressure advance. Curious what you think

[@PrintsLeo3D]

David! Thanks again for watching and talking time to ask some questions and leave some comments! My video can be 3 months old or 3 years old, if you leave a comment I'll respond 👍

[@bobbond8232]

How would you compare the QIDI X-Max 3 to the Bambu Lab Carbon in regards to the quality of the prints? I hate the fact that the spool is stuck on the back on the unit.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Well for the spool there is an option to mount it to the side of the machine. It's a printable option, but it's not one I have attempted yet as the back of the machine has been the best location for me based on where the printer is sitting. As for print quality it's hard to say definitively. The quality on this printer is 'as good' or 'better' than the quality I get from my two Bambu machines. That being said there are more knobs and levers to pull (and you have to pull lol) in order to get there. Of course by that I mean tuning your own pressure advance, input shaping, flow, etc.

[@seyahatt6843]

@@PrintsLeo3DThanks for the information. For a first time user are these adjustments potentially a barrier to acheiving a print quality as good as the P1S/X1C? Or do these adjustments push the print quality even beyond these models? Due to the QIDIs heated chamber can we confidently say that it's print quality is superior to that of the P1S/X1C for some filaments?

[@HienLe-dd1rk]

Any advice on setting up OctoEverywhere, specifically if you aren't supposed to do your own Klipper updates if it's fine to install other stuff on the MKS board? How accurate was the leveling card for you? Seems they intentionally made it thicker than a standard sheet of paper. Makes me wonder why manufacturers don't include first layer squares and a picture of ideal squish in their instructions..

[@PrintsLeo3D]

You're absolutely right about updating the firmware, which k didn't feature in this video. All the updates need to go through Qidi as the screen firmare wraps the Klipper firmware (essentially holding it hostage to a degree). That being said adding OctoEverywhere just takes hold of all your currently working files so it shouldn't cause any corruption. The only thing you need to do is change the date on the host device itself. I think it's running on a clock of December 2022. After updating the date through terminal access, the OctoEverywhere install is simple. I'm going to be putting out an in-depth video on OctoEverywhere very shortly. As for the levelling card, it's definitely made a little thicker and of higher quality, but I think it's more to be able to withstand a lot of wear and tear and less because it is the "exact" thickness Qidi thinks you should use. In the end no matter what to use with this, the card, paper, a feeler gauge, you still need to do some live z offset adjusting. And when you do only adjust through the screen not through the front end -another issue with how Qidi has encapsulated Klipper- Thanks for watching as always

[@B1OD]

How did you SSH into it? Port 22? What User and Password? I'd really like to OctoEverywhere running. Thanks.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Hey sorry I never saw your comment. For SSH the username is: mks and the password is: makerbase

[@B1OD]

​@@PrintsLeo3D Thank you for the reply 👍. When I ran OctoEverywhere install I got errors and printer still not been seen by Octo. Did you need to take other steps for the installation? Good review btw.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

I think I had to update the internal clock on the MCU itself. I can look up the actual lines needed for Linux, but ultimately what you need to do is change the system time to the current time or the repos won't download properly for you. If you want I can look up those commands you need to run through the terminal line.

[@mszoomy]

I hate it when I trip over a simple word. Aluminum always does me in 😂. Great video my dear.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Lol thank you thank you . I trip over so many words while making these, I figured it was time one made it to the video 😁

[@Nigel_Tufnel_11]

Did you have to mod anything to use the 3rd party nozzles in this? I though standard volcano nozzles were 2mm or so too long.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

You're correct about the length, they were about 2mm too long. No mod necessary it dropped right in, but it shrunk the z offset from -2.4 to -0.4 I was skeptical that would keep my touch accurate, but of all the prints and meshes I created it ran without issue. I don't know if I would run this like that long term, I'd probably create a bracket to move the probe to a lower position.

[@Nigel_Tufnel_11]

@@PrintsLeo3D thanks for the reply. Yeah, I thought that might be the workaround. Good to know. I have my x-plus 3 turning up any day now!

[@PrintsLeo3D]

This thing has been rocking for me and I'm sure yours will be the same. There's a bit of a dance you have to do when changing filaments (because it's all the way in the back) so if you need help when you get it , or are curious how I'm doing things let me know.

[@NickVickers]

I really need your help!!! really struggling with support blockers, and the threshold not changing in the slicer they sent with it. Love your vids, please reach out. `thanks

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Hey Nick! I don't know how much help I would be with their slicer because it's not my everyday slicer. I have been using OrcaSlicer for a while now and it's wonderful! All of its features work and are simple to understand. I can personally attest to the support blockers working.

[@geauxracerx]

Was seriously looking at this printer, but now I’m torn since I’ve seen the Flying Bear Reborn 2. Opinion between the two of them? Build volume on the Reborn 2 is 325x325x350. It’s not Klipper, but can be converted to Klipper easily. Oh and it’s pronounced Chi-DI

[@PrintsLeo3D]

I don't know much about the flying bear. I looked into very briefly, but I think @3dprintsos has a video detailing so I'd take a look at his channel to get more info than I can bring. This has been an absolute workhorse for me, so if it fills a niche you're looking for I can't recommend it enough. I was worried about pronunciation so I asked the rep I was dealing with when we were talking about the product. They told me to call it "child-dee" 😂 I swear I have the email. I meant to post it in the video and I forgot. I was worried about how it would sound lol Ps. Also I just checked the the FB reborn 2 is selling for around $359 right now?! Can that be possible. Definitely worth taking a look at that printer if it can adopt Klipper.

[@colincampbell3679]

Seasons Greetings Leo I hope you are doing fine? I have some great news, I have just ordered the Qidi X-PLUS-3 directly from their UK store, It is on sale now for £5.29.00p which is £10 less than Amazon UK. I got as a new customer another 5% discount as well off the sale price and have got it for £502.00p the printer be delivered between 1 to 3 days since it coming from the UK warehouse. I am so pleased to be able after lots of saving to get such a great deal and my 1st fast enclosed 3D printer. At last I be able to print fast and detailed all those higher temp filament like ABS that my open frame printers can't. Just as well too since all of mine are playing me up big time either hot end blocking or leveling problems. So I thought I tell you I soon have this printer. 😊

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Colin happy holidays and happy new Year!! Looks like this new year is going to be a good one too with what you have in store! Hopefully by the time this reply gets read you'll already have setup and started printing with your new printer. This Qidi series has been a really great addition to my lineup I hope it pans out as well for you! If you have any issues or need help with slicer stuff just let me know!

[@colincampbell3679]

@@PrintsLeo3D Happy New Year Leo, Yep the printer is running like a mad thing. I am really amazed how fast it runs compared to the older bed slinger's I have. a perfect PLA Benchy in 17 minutes. Just mind blown! I have installed the slicer and doing fine as it is very similar to the Prusa one, I set up some new models I wish to try in PLA & PETG & TPU. I found a spool holder online which moves the spool to a better place than the back. Talk soon! cheers. 🙂

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Yea there's a side spool holder for this but I ended up placing this on a lower shelf where the back was the best option for me. Glad this is working well for you, great hearing good feedback on the Qidi offerings. If you need help adding any particular add-ons (like OctoEverywhere which I'm covering in a new video) let me know, because there are some particularities with the way Qidi this up. Good luck and happy new year!

[@colincampbell3679]

@@PrintsLeo3D Hi Leo, Well, I am very pleased how I managed to set up the LAN interface and was able to for the 1st time ever have the option to slice on the Qidi slicer and send directly to the printer and have it print. I never had such a option? At the moment the printer is set up in the Kitchen on a workbench with a heavy piece of cut 2 foot wide worktop I had available. I have got 2 big quick work clamps and locked the worktop and bench top together. I am on the PC in the front room which is next to the kitchen, I am even for the 1st time printing ABS on the printer. I have the chamber heater on to 60 and the bed on 80 and the nozzle at 265 C It was working just great. Then I just went t see how well the layers after the 1st good ones I saw as it started were? and got a hot end blockage. I unloaded the filament and used the needle to poke the nozzle and even used some cleaning filament to help clear it at a nozzle temp of 280 C since the ABS was at 265. No luck Leo, it won't un-block So damn it is a shame it was working so well? What do I do to un-block the hot end. Thanks

[@colincampbell3679]

Hey Again Leo, Hope your well? I had some error codes with the new Qidi X Plus 3, and been back & forth with Qidi Help about the codes and the Printer not working on the wi-fi link with the PC so no sending files and the Fluid interface was not showing in the device tab? After some help it seems the internal memory had filled up stopping the printer from printing newer files! I at last got the LAN system fixed by buying a long flat LAN Cat 7 shielded cable that went from my router to the printer, Mu PC already is connected to the router by one. I got the right IP Address set ( the PC one was not the same as it ) It had just two numbers different. I got Fluid interface on the device tab of the slicer now. and managed to clear the printers memory of excess done g-code files that had been finished. Now all working fine I ordered a webcam that looks like it do for time lapses and real time viewing. I was wondering do you know how I plug in a USB webcam so I can view by it the prints through the printers own usb so the signal goes through the LAN cable? Thanks 😉

[@SpaceMoose86]

At the end of one of your videos prior you said you'd be reviewing the bl x1c yet a review was never produced, then we get this where you're discrediting bl even though you admitted it's a good printer for print and play near the ending. The aquila I was on was nothing but a constant problem and it left me feeling like I was the problem so I followed every upgrade path just to get it decent. Countless hours and filament on mostly sub-par prints. I learned a lot and don't regret it but could only recommend one to someone that wants to learn this hobby down to the nuts and bolts, not just engage in printing and have fun with printing projects. The bl printers have set a new bar that everyone's scrambling to catch up to, and good luck to them as they'll all need it. Leo, are you raising the Qidi and putting down BL due to being sponsored by them? And did you leave out a BL review because they didn't partner with you?

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Space thanks for the comment and I appreciate you taking the time to call me out on something like this. I'll answer all your questions as best I can but the short answer is : I love my Bambu printers and I recommend them to most/a lot of people. It doesn't mean I don't think there are some issues with them. Also doesn't mean I don't prefer other printers for my specific needs. Why no review? I was an early adopter of the BambuLabs machines. I had a kickstarter X1C and was super excited up to and when I got it. At the time there wasn't a whole lot of noise about these printers. I mean I was blown away by it, but it didn't seem like the 3d printing world as a whole was really feeling the effect. I remember being at ERRF 2022 that year and there was only a single BL printer there (that I saw), and I didn't hear much if any buzz about those machines. So when I got my X1C and saw how great this could be for newer users I was of course going to make a video detailing how easy it had been for me. The problem is, like all my videos, I just don't get a lot of time to record them. So as time went on EVERYONE was doing a BL review. Especially when the P1P came along and lowered the price point. It just didn't seem like I could add anything to the conversation that other smarter youtubers were already creating(and with better production quality too). It just got to a point where the "hey this printer is really great and I think you should trust it" video got left in the dust and everyone was already-wise to it. So I didn't think I could do anything positive to add to that whole buzz. That being said maybe I should do some BL content. It's just hard because those printers just work lol and they don't require the same hands on as other printers do. It's a year since I got my kickstarted unit (and added a P1P) and now the entire 3d printing ecosystem is warped around BL and their lineup of printers. For the most part I think BL has done a good job at answering problems that have arisen (thermal runaway, makerworld, cloud networking, etc). I like their blog and for a new and powerful company I like how quickly they respond to the community. I don't really think they made any major misstep without explaining themselves and also attempting to respond. The only mistake I feel they made, and it feels so blatant which hasn't been like them, is allowing these new X1E machines to not be connected to the cloud. It's been a complaint from the community for awhile and I don't think they've ever given a really satisfactory answer. Then all of a sudden then come out with a new machine that is geared towards business and schools, its priced accordingly, and it doesn't require cloud access. It feels like they just tried to glide that one by. Anyway, not really a huge black mark on their record, just sort of out of the ordinary for them. Am I team Qidi? I mean I like this Xmax3. They didn't necessarily sponsor me, they sent me the printer for free (which is amazing and much appreciated), but that doesn't bias how I feel about the printer. Tiertime sent me a printer also and I wasn't as happy with that printer and I let that known in my review. I like the Qidi and it's been rock solid for me. The fact I am comparing the Xmax3 to the BL machines just goes to show how powerful BL has become in only a years time (and how much I respect those machines). So I am specifically pointing out areas where these two printers diverge, and what I think those divergences mean and if they are worth it for your particular use case. I don't want anyone to think I am putting down the BL machines. They are great, but they are now the benchmark (which is crazy considering how new they are), and a lot of printers going forward are going to be compared to them for better or for worse. I know people are considering the Xmax3, and the question truly is, how does this compare to the leader -the BL machines- so I am trying to give some points and counterpoints to this machine compared to those. I would say if I am 'team anything' it would be team Klipper. I think this is the best firmware out there now, and it's what I think the future of 3d printing will be on. So if something is harnessing Klipper (which the Xmax does) then it has my curiosity. If it does it well then it has my attention. That being said I appreciate you asking the question, because my intent was never to bash the BL machines, without the understanding that I respect what they are doing and they are now the standard.

[@afanas4635]

I'm trying to get my first 3d printer is this one better than the K1 Max AI Fast 3D Printer I'm trying to eventually print helmets for cosplay

[@PrintsLeo3D]

I never really like to use the terms better or worse. Both of these offer a similar experience but have different positives and negatives. I don't own the K1 Max so I can't comment on that, but the Xmax3 has been an absolute rock star for me! I have printed many a helmet with this printer so far !

[@shellumus]

As it has been a while how do you still feel about the Qidi X? I have a NP 4 Max and its rubbish.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

I still love this printer and I would say it's my go-to printer nowadays. the quality, consistency, and size make this such a great workhorse.

[@Horsenb]

I've been on the fence on whether to get the X MAX 3 the P1P/S or a Troodon 2.0. I was leanin away from the x max3 . The price puts it close to the price of Voron clone Troodon .This video didn't help my decision hahaha.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

I guess I'm glad ? Lol I'm not trying to sell anybody anything, just looking to share my experience and hope to help others base their decision on it. That being said I have the P1P also and can say they are similar but different. They both just work, but the XMax3 will ask for a little bit more from you. That being said I think for me it offers a little more. The larger build volume can be invaluable, and for me it is when printing larger models lile helmets and crowns. Good luck on the hunt and either way I'm sure you'll enjoy what you settle on.

[@piotrpaderewski299]

Great video ✌️i bouth this one w few days ago . In overall it’s look and works acceptable, but one think make me crazy : how the hell can I shut down the printer without rebooting the system ? It’s just ridiculous that it don’t have any physical buttton on something to switch off this think . Mad 😵‍💫 Have fun guys .

[@PrintsLeo3D]

I'm happy to hear more people are enjoying this machine. Can you just turn it off with the switch at the rear?

[@michallojewski7728]

How's your experience with it so far? I'm still on the fence between that and bamboo

[@PrintsLeo3D]

I love it, it's been great for me. I love my bambu as well. Gotta look at what your wants are and weigh them out. I think this is a really good printer, but I think the Bambus are too. So I think either way you'll be happy.

[@piotrpaderewski299]

@@michallojewski7728 X Max 3 to dobra podstawa do zbudowania bardzo dobrej drukarki . Jest pare niedociągnięć ( jak to u chińczyków ) ale bardzo dużo spraw jest poprawione względem poprzedniej wersji . Z rzeczy dla mnie irytujących : w drukarce za 1000 Euro wciąż musisz sam mierzyć papierkiem Z offset . Wyłącznik umieszczony w takim miejscu żebyś chyba nie wyłączał tej drukarki w ogóle ? 😁 Dotykowy ekran słabo reagujący na dotyk . Wszystkie wiatraczki chłodzące natychmiast do wymiany z powodu poziomu głośności ! Niekompatybilna z niczym długość głowicy ( dłuższa od standard volcano o 2mm ) . Temperatura realnie nie przekracza nigdy 50 stopni , wiec wypadałoby drukarkę porządnie uszczelnić , a czujnik temp umieścić w zupełnie innym miejscu gdzie mierzyłby realna temp a nie blisko stołu . O mocowaniu oryginalnego pojemnika na szpulę już nawet nie wspominam bo używam swojego zewnetrznego , ale ludzie tez na to bardzo narzekają . Pamięć EMMC o pojemności 8 GB to jakieś nieporozumienie ! 32 GB w standardzie powinno być min ! Płyta z PEI szybko traci swoje właściwość . Zapewne dlatego że warstwa nałożona jest niestarannie , a nowa to koszt + 30 Euro . I znalazłoby się jeszcze pewnie kilka drobnych zastrzeżeń . Reasumując , jeśli myślisz o drukowaniu zabawek z PLA to niepotrzebna Ci zamknięta komora , a jeśli zaś myślisz o drukowaniu bardziej zaawansowanych materiałów ( tak jak ja ) to drukarka będzie wymagała paru poprawek i zainwestowanych pieniędzy . X Max 3 to dobra podstawa do świetnej drukarki . Pozdrawiam .

[@pmbrothny]

Qidi has a 32gb memory card to upgarde too, and they have the camera now availabl.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Yea I was cruising around their store a few days ago and saw that camera! I ended up hooking a cheaper webcam to the board and having it sit inside the enclosure on the filter top. It gives a really nice view and it was something I just had laying around. We be happy to send a screenshot of it's view but I don't know if KZbin allows that. For the memory I still feel like I am in the stone age lol but just transferring the files to the USB stick through Orca Slicer is how I have been doing it. It is good to see Qidi heard some of our complaints about the system though. Thanks for sharing it because I didn't know about the 32gb memory.

[@pmbrothny]

@@PrintsLeo3D I have the X-MAX ii and just ordered the x-max 3. Looking forward to the extra print cpabilities.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Awesome I really hope you love it, mines been amazing since I got it. If you need some tips it anything comes up along the way let me know

[@oleurgast730]

Actually I like my Qidi X-Max 3 a lot, but also have some more complains and did some modifications: - The spoolholder in the back is not a nice place. Also I prefer active dryers for ABS,ASA and PA12. So I replaced the reverse bowden by a longer one (transparent, 3.0 mm inside diameter), extended the cable of the filamen runout sensor and placed an active drybox left to the printer. - The door has to be open on PLA prints. However, somehow its always in the way, esp if placing a filament spool/dryer to the left of the printer. So I used a saw and modified the door hinges... I cut away the 3 "rods" were the door is clicked onto and removed the door. Than I drilled some holes, so I could place one long rod to become the new hinge. Now I can simply pull the rod and put the door on a shelf (together with the top cover) while printing PLA and put it in when printing other materials. - I added a webcam. - The PiNano M4 uses the same eMMC module. Qidi's bord is an OEM variant of the MKS SKIPR. The the USB2eMMC Adapter for the skipr can be used to image the eMMC and write it to anothe, f.e. an 32GB one. You have to use SSH to give some commands to expand the filesystem. So I now have a lot of free space. Even if you do not upgrade the eMMC, I strictly recommend the adapter to do a backup of your eMMC. If you mess up with installing extra features its always nice to have a backup. Imaging and restoring the 8GB eMMC is less than 3:30 min. - The WLAN pasword you can set via display is limited to 32 characters. I have more... So I used a WLAN bridge and connected via LAN. However, after getting access by network, I could set the full WLAN password by SSH terminal (but I didn't, I need the USB port for the WLAN stick for other purposes anyway at the moment). - Unloading the filament you have to pull the filament, else there is a good chance it gets stuck in the extruder. Actually that happened the first time I unloaded... With a volcano style nozzle you have a big melt zone. Unloading the filament, the tip is still weak and get pressed by the extruder gears. Sometimes it gets so flat, it winds inside the extruder instead of leaving it. So always pull on unload. Even than, the tip of the filament is deformed an sometimes is cought in the runout sensor. So no way to add an automatic filament changer (ERCF) with the original hotend. Actually this is the reason bambulab uses cut&poo, so there is no need to unload the filament tip at all - its simply left insided and pooed out on the next load. - I upgraded the hotend to a revo. With RevoHF the volumatric flow is about the same as with the original hotend. But also unreliable unload/bad filament tip. However, with Revo Standard or ObXidian, the unload works flawless and you get a quite nice filament tip, so using an ERCF would become possible. As on multicolour prints the filament change use quite a time (on a bambu with cut&poo even an insane 1:30 min), the pure printing speed/volumetric flow isn't so important anyway. So now I use RevoHF for normal prints, RevoStandard for multiColour (at the moment I do not have build the ERFC, but make manual changes sometimes) and ObXidian for abrasives. - I added a 3th MCU (an old creality silent board). Qidis hotend uses a thermocouple, no input available for a hotend thermistor (for the Revo). While the toolboard is a variant of the MKS THR and I might have swapped it to a stock one instead using Qidis OEM version, I had an old board on hand while I had to wait for a THR. But using an extra MCU has his own benefits, like extra outputs. While I am quite happy with the changes I made, I plan some more: - The webcam sits in the back, so it points into direction of the lightstrip. I plan to use the extra heater outputs I get from the 3th MCU to controll two lightstrips, one in the back, one at the front. So I can change light depending if I look from the front directly or from the back by the web interface. - The full MKS skipr is quite cheap. I might replace the OEM version by the full one (so I do not need the 3th MCU anymore). Also I might upgrade the display from a serial resistive to an SPI capacitive one (faster preview....) The set of MKS Skipr + Touchscreen was about 63€ on last sale on Aliexpress. As it has two heater outputs for hotends, which are not needed due to the toolboard, theese could control lights. - I might replace the toolboard and use an MKS THR36 instead. So I do not need to run an extra cable through the cable chain for the thermistor. Also there are extra I/O - for example for neopixel or a filament sensor on the toolhead (wich would be nice to check if filament realy is loaded using an ERCF). - I might replace the feeder by an original Bondtech LGX light. You can not adjust tension on Qidis extruder nor can you unengage the feeder. Actually adding a servo to unengage the feeder on unload, using just the ERCF feeder to pull the filament out, might solve the deforming filament tip on unload problem. - MKS still uses Armbian Jessy. Quite old, you can not upgrade the webcam software to the latest version f.e. There is an adapted bullseye kernal on github for the mks pi and mks skipr. So maybe I will upgrade to the latest version. Sadly I have many ideas, but not the best design skills. So the further mods might take some time... Fun fact: The first prints I did after my modifications were the mk4 upgrade parts. On a qidi, with e3d hotend,a creality 3th mcu using bambulab mint ABS. For my Prusa. Any major brand missing ? As a summery: The X max 3 has some minor flaws, but is already a very solid printer "as is". Still, it's very solid platform makes it a very good choice for tinkerers also.

[@Horsenb]

You should make a video of your upgrades. You seem to have the most modded x-max-3 and I think thats something alot of 3d printer guys would like to see. its MOdding that will take this printers shortcomings and toss them to the side when people are comparing the choises in these new corexy offerings. I think if the printer did away with the bl touch style probe and did its own z offset calibration more people would be interested.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

So I've been waiting to respond to @oleurgast730 because they put so much time and effort into their comment I wanted to give myself adequate time, but Horse makes a good point. Showing what these printers are capable of would be a good watch/read. That being said there's a large portion of people who want to see what it can do directly out of the box, and I understand that. There's a lot more I wanted to show/explain with this printer that I figured would be better suited for a follow-up video (or two) for people who were interested.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Thank you so much for this insightful, informative, and in-depth comment. The spool holder. Qidi offers a printable spool holder that changed the orientation to the side. I found the back to be "fine". I was in the process of creating a mount for the spool to be mounted on top of the printer, but it got side tracked and I had been printing with it anyway so I ultimately shelved the idea. It does speak to your further point about filament changing and to the extent of the runout sensor. There is a sort of dance you need to perform when processing a mid-print filament swap. I could probably make a video by itself just about it lol one suggestion is to always advance at least 10mm of filament into the nozzle before retracting to avoiding any sort of clog. So while I think changing the spool location could be beneficial it's serviceable where it is now for me so I haven't spent more time on it. I was going to upgrade the eMMC but I just got used to using the USB stick wirelessly that it would end up being more work than it's worth. You're suggesting of having a backup is smart though. I back up all my Klipper side files and then if anything really goes haywire I'll be looking to Qidi to get me back on track. I never had issues with the extruder tension which surprised me. It's tensioned by a spring without adjustment (as you mentioned). I assembled and disassembled the extruder around 10 times, and I was impressed with how well it held up. Ultimately I like your conclusion. I think out of the box it needs some hands on, it's not a Bambu Labs, but it's still very powerful. Apart from that though you're free to upgrade a lot of aspects of this printer, which while unique to your needs, gives you a lot of room to explore. Again I appreciate your thoughts (and follow up from the short I posted) and hope you update me as you continue to use you XMax3! Edit: one thing I did want to talk about but kept it for a follow up video was how Qidi has wrapped Klipper. So that certain elements need to be articulated only from the screen and not from Fluidd. The implementation of z offset is the biggest offender !

[@oleurgast730]

@@PrintsLeo3D I made the video about the modifications. However, if I post the link here, yt deletes my comment, considering it to be spam ;-(

[@oleurgast730]

@@PrintsLeo3D Definitly the display qidi uses is a bit of a downside. Not only for z-offset calibration (normaly - and also in fluid - arrow up means increasing distance between nozzle and bed. On the Qidi it moves the bed up, reducing the distance.) Also it has it's own firmware and is connected serial. This is the reason, firmware updates take so long - actually the display sets the main board into sort of debug mode and write a new image bit by bit via serial. Another side effect: if display and board firmware are not on the same version (for example downgrading to an older image) the position of an icon and the position where you have to click are not always the same (actually this was the reason I rammed my nozzle into the bed while live adjusting z). Happily a normal consumer might not ran into this problem. Qidi do a purge before unload. Still, unload seems to fast. There might be ways for improvements - but at the moment I am not even sure, if the unload sequence is defined in Klipper. As a Klipper newbee I might miss something, but I thought there should be a macro for unloading. However, with this serial display using it's own firmware it might send it's own preprogammed sequence by serial instead... The Qidi is my first printer using Klipper. Actually having a working system to start with, doing some modifications, is my way to learn about Klipper in small steps. I was supprised how easy f.e. adding an extra MCU is. So while I plan further modifications, I have a bunch of older printers I might convert to klipper first. For the Qidi I am happy with the results for now, and thanks to the Revo z-offset recalibration is mostly not needed anymore, as all nozzles have exactly the same lenght.

[@colincampbell3679]

Now I am torn between this Qidi X-Plus 3 and the Creality K1, The K1 is cheaper than the Qidi X-Plus 3 in the UK Amazon by about £140.00p Both ship from a UK warehouse in 48 Hours. And the K1 does have 100% hands free auto leveling & z height setting. But is a 2 inch small printing area too than the Qidi. Either way I would have to save up for around 3 weeks to a Month to afford either of them anyway.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

That's a tough call. I don't have the K1 but from what I gather they have been reliable printers. A lot comes down to what you think you're going to be printing. If you a NEED the build volume of the X Max then I think it's a non brainier. But if you don't know if you're going to be using that large build volume saving up a few dollars may be ideal. I know if you're interested in the K1 @3dprintsos has a few videos showing it off and handling some of the on board issues. Either way I think you'll be happy with the purchase. Good luck and let me know what you get !

[@themechanic6151]

I have no expertise on either of these printers, but ive seen good things about K1 IF you mod it and change some things as it will start to fail after some time

[@PrintsLeo3D]

The K1 is also on a deep discount right now, so the timing might be right.

[@wekkimeif7720]

The models won't be sent to Bambulabs if you keep your Bambu printer offline and don't use their slicer. You can simply use SD card to put your models into it

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Yea, you're right! I just don't think that method is what 99% of users would choose to use, especially if you're looking for wireless communication to your printer. It is an option though and I appreciate you shedding some light on that.

[@zmeczoneoczyjackaopor3612]

sd card in bambu is not working all the time

[@wekkimeif7720]

@@zmeczoneoczyjackaopor3612 It should be reported to Bambu and request them to provide fix. It's not acceptable that 700 euros or over that printer SD card is not working

[@WorkInLight]

I was all for the BambuLab, but the security issue was a red light for me, this looks like the top choice of the alternatives. At least until I get some experience behind me as this is all new to me, and then perhaps I'll look at a build, like RatRig or VZBot. And the larger print size is also a big plus, print time is the least important aspect for me. Thank you for you review, most helpful.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

You're very welcome and whichever printer you decide on I am sure you'll enjoy. This printer is still rocking and rolling for me, so I can't recommend it enough!

[@WorkInLight]

@@PrintsLeo3D Mate, top effort, just subscribed. Responding to emails, and so quickly, I commend you sir, I'd be too busy for that.

[@anhydrouswater]

I had zero interest in this printer until i watched your video. Always love your videos man.....enjoy the married life!

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Thanks brother! There are so many good printers out right now it's hard to not throw a rock and hit one that you wouldn't mind taking home lol that being said married life means I gotta make sure my rocks stay home lol I appreciate you taking the time to comment , it means a lot !

[@95lovi]

Im quite intressted in purchasing a 3D Printer for Technical solutions. I will not print toys. It should prink acurate highstrength materials such as the mentioned carbon fiber base materials used for exmpl. drone frames ect.. brackets

[@hunt0583]

could you try a lazy susan for a video?

[@PrintsLeo3D]

You know I've been thinking about this. I want to get a nice 360 of the printers (or whatever product I have). I'm assuming that's the context you mean. Of course I'm not going to have to look and see if I can print one 😂

[@rodiculous9464]

Lol i got a bambu ad on this video 😂

[@PrintsLeo3D]

I can't knock them for trying! I have a Bambu as well as this Qidi XMax3 and I love them both. Maybe I'll talk to Qidi and ask them to get a larger marketing push lol

[@rodiculous9464]

@PrintsLeo3D they're having a big sale right now. I got an xmax 3, can't wait to start printing stuff

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Great! I hope it performs as well for you as it has for me. This thing is still churning out tremendous prints!

[@KolMan2000]

I’m seeing no reason you should have reduced the accelerations when the limit to flow is caused by max speed. So in the case that you ever managed to reach 200mm/s with 7000mm/s^2 accelerations then you would get flow limited immediately, so setting it to 300mm/s top speed doesn’t make any sense. The machine can easily crank out 15000+ accel if you tune input shaping correctly. Setting the max volumetric flow doesn’t automatically slow the print down so you have to set your max speed as below the point of flow limitation.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

I'm not sure which part of the video you're referring to. I made this a while ago and I know I've spoken about these topics ina few videos. Slicers can use max volumetric flow rate differently, but when isn't Orca slicer, setting amax volumetric flow rate for a given filament will throttle your speeds so that you never over shoot that value.

[@Avxes]

Told where to buy the ikea stand, but not some print times? Its like someone is paying these youtubers not to do that.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

lol I would love to talk to these KZbinrs who are getting paid lol I usually don't talk about specific print times because they can be arbitrary and are able to be manipulated. For instance I have a model I was printing that took 7.5 hours while using honeycomb infill but only 3.5 hours while using grid. So I would rather talk about speeds and accelerations which cannot be manipulated, where print times ca vary based on a lot of factors. As for the other stuff, I am a simple man tryign to make these videos. I try and add relevant information where I see fit, I thought showing the Ikea stuff was a cool little addition, as it's something that has worked well for me. There is really nothing nefarious whatsoever going on. Hope this helps.

[@MilestoneVids]

I dunno man creality quality, seems junky to me. Heard a lot of issues with qidi

[@PrintsLeo3D]

The quality on these machines is really superb. I have both Bambu and Qidi machines and the quality on both is on par. Bambu offers more hand holding (and that is by no means a bad thing) which means a wider group of people will have an easier time and create better prints. That doesn't mean Qidi can't offer the same experience, you get less guide rails , but also that means you have some room manipulate certain areas you may not on a machine like a Bambu Labs. Both of these companies offer great printers, the experience is probably catered to different sects of people , the best we can do is try and determine if they're the right fit for us.

[@vidsurfer0725]

Gonna have to disagree....most of us don't want to edit a text doc or learn to understand the coding aspect...we just want to print and.let the updates come OTA.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

That's a fair opinion. Everyone approaches any hobby, especially 3d printing, however suits them. I love Klipper and I think it's a lot easier than people may think at first. Ultimately whatever gets you printing and having fun is the best option! Thanks for watching and I appreciate you sharing your thoughts

[@vidsurfer0725]

@@PrintsLeo3D equally fair opinion and great video. It definitely had me looking it up on Amazon.

[@seenmakino]

Yep, I just want it to work with a simple straightforward workflow. I don't want my parts going to the cloud though either.

[@vidsurfer0725]

@@seenmakino to better understand your point of view on this, would you mind telling me why you are so against that aspect of it?

[@seenmakino]

@@vidsurfer0725 I'd rather not mess with the printer settings etc. I'd rather it just print my parts hassle free. I want trouble free parts in a day at most for whatever I'm working on with the printer.

[@MilestoneVids]

Bambu monitoring prints will improve the tech overall. Look at Tesla collecting data from every tesla sold. Bambu are smart as fuk

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Yea, I think I cut the section where I said "I doubt Bambu is doing anything nefarious" , because I honest don't think they are. For some people, especially those that work in secure or privileged fields, any sort of data monitoring is a concern and can be a non starter. Bambi has singlehandedly changed the makeup of the 3d printing consumer landscape, and I hope they continue to innovate.

[@MilestoneVids]

@@PrintsLeo3D yeah I understand the inconvenience for some people, but I think they are just studying the data to better improve in the future.

[@rodiculous9464]

Yeah they're "smart as fuk" at stealing your data/designs and selling it to whoever wants it 😂 you dont think there's a reason cheap chinese clones of any remotely successful products seem to instantly pop up on the market? 😂 your tesla example isnt even a comparison because you're not using tesla's to potentially design a successful product that they can steal and put you out of business. Youre just driving it and thats it. It cant literally steal your ideas like bambu.

[@AndrewAHayes]

Pronouned Chee Dee. Qi, (Chinese: “steam,” “breath,” “vital energy,” “vital force,” “material force,” “matter-energy,” “organic material energy,” or “pneuma”) in Chinese philosophy, medicine, and religion, the psychophysical energies that permeate the universe.

[@PrintsLeo3D]

Do you happen to work for Qidi? I'm not trying to be rude but that's a very thorough comment and I'd love to finally get some clarity on this topic. Someone else last week corrected me on the pronunciation as well. I'd like to think you both are right, but before this video I tried to do as much diligence as I could, sominask the representative I had been dealing with what the correct pronunciation was. They told me it was "Quid-dee" lol so I'm willing to believe they are mistaken but I'd love to get an official response to it. I'm hoping you're that official response.

[@AndrewAHayes]

@@PrintsLeo3D No I dont work for QiDi, I wish I did though! but I was watching a live video of a QiDi printer launch and a QiDi employee was sitting in the chat and he confirmed the correct pronunciation, as there were arguments in the chat

[@802Garage]

Pronounced chee-dee just FYI. :)

[@PrintsLeo3D]

I had heard a few different pronunciations before I made this video, and because I wanted to be sure I wasn't butchering the name I asked the company. The representative I spoke with told me it was pronounced 'qui-dee'. I followed up for clarification which is where I ended up. It's possible the representative I spoke with was incorrect, but being the information was from as close to the source as I could get I decided to use that pronunciation. I would love an even more official word from Qidi as I really like this printer and I doubt it's the last video I focus on of theirs.

[@802Garage]

@@PrintsLeo3D That's so funny! Because I have seen other videos where the person says they spoke to a representative of the company who told them it was chee-dee. I'm definitely not faulting you and I have heard a lot of variations haha. From what I know of Chinese pronunciation, Q is generally a "ch" sound, hence why I thought that was correct. Will the world ever know the truth? 😂

[@PrintsLeo3D]

I appreciate the reply. You aren't the first person to raise the reply, and it does feel weird pronouncing it this way, because I have heard it so often pronounced 'Chi-dee'. I was hoping when I got the response that's how the company would ask me to say it lol So it was somewhat begrudging that I chose the final pronunciation. Hopefully one day I can speak with someone at the top of the corporate food chain and get to the bottom of it... or maybe they change their name lol

[@802Garage]

@@PrintsLeo3D I appreciate that you put in the effort! 😤