WARNING Don't Buy QIDI 4 Plus Until You Watch This

[@Jerrie-Lenore]

Great review, great printer! QIDI owners spent a year working with QIDI on the user forums on the improvements we wanted to see from the 3 series, and they absolutely delivered on this flagship 4! Their customer service and interaction with the community is unmatched.

[@Kimberlie1]

Totally agree. They're awesome!

[@joshstephens3224]

​@@Kimberlie1I purchased a Plus4 weeks ago. I haven't printed a single thing. Buy the Plus4 if you like writing emails and taking apart brand new printers with serious quality issues. The qiditech reddit is littered with people like me who bought $800 paperweights. They sent reviewers quality printers for marketing and sent consumers cheap garbage for profit. Entire threads are dedicated to fighting Qidi for refunds.

[@Alexoliveira-ug5mh]

And full of defects...

[@joshstephens3224]

@Alexoliveira-ug5mh tell me about it. Mine's been sitting in my living room since September 26th. It's now October 23. I have printed ONE BENCHY! The component and build quality are hit and miss at best. They sent the reviewers their best printers and sent us the garbage. The old bait and switch. Got me. Well played Qidi.

[@OG-ChokeMaster]

@@joshstephens3224 is it still sitting in your living room or does it work now?

[@techtechuw597]

For some stupid reason all reviewers still using mmps as an indication of print speed. Give us your production quality maximum flow rate and acceleration speeds.

[@hotshoestudios]

I wish mine actually worked. One week, 30 plus hours of troubleshooting and I still don't have a single successful print. Finding out the hard way they don't honor their return policy either. Massive issue with the bed level sensors being bad. I know there are some good ones out there but unfortunately I didn't get one. Buyer beware!!!

[@ebpman]

@@hotshoestudios so sorry. I have 300 hours of print time on mine. They do watch threads like this

[@strangefire2024]

i am barely holding myself back from ordering this. the only thing stopping me is waiting for them to release the QidiX Max 4, which will most likely be exactly the same but (probably) have a larger bed, hopefully, 350mm cubed.

[@Minimaster84]

After 2 days I gave up and placed order 😅

[@JTs3DPrints]

@@strangefire2024 Do not wait, 200% best printer money can buy for its feature set! I am blown away by my machine!

[@CRIZZZLPT]

whats holding me back is if Bambu's Printer this fall will be high-temp and IDEX or not. if Not, Qidi it is

[@strangefire2024]

@@Minimaster84 it is still an amazing buy and well worth its price. may you have an excellent time printing brother.

[@81GTUN4]

@@CRIZZZLPT2025q1

[@berlinberlin4246]

Why this click bait video title?

[@naturesrecorder9099]

Ordered mine $760 shipped. Exciting upgrade from my modded ender 3. Seems like a better value than bambulab, and an AMS module will be out next year

[@ebpman]

@@naturesrecorder9099 for my business use it's been doing well even with this as an early release unit. I am looking forward to the ams for light color more for hours and hours of printing. Having rolls to continue to print non stop is important to me. Congrats on your purchase

[@YokeyDokey]

How was it?

[@willofthemaker]

Thanks for the review. I am really tempted by this printer. It certainly checks almost all the boxes. (I'd love an IDEX for copy mode or dual materials). AMS for this is coming though which is awesome. BTW it is pronounce Chee dee, not kee dee. Also would love to see your farm. DAMN thats a lot of producs you sell.

[@ebpman]

Thanks.

[@JTs3DPrints]

@@willofthemaker It prints right out of box perfect first layers. Solid well designed machine good for beginner or pro. It is a workhorse very user friendly. Has a great nozzle and cooling design and solid thick bed. Auto level works very well best I have used in past 4 years!

[@802Garage]

Nice review! Great to have the perspective from someone who runs a print farm and demands quality with speed. I just got my Plus4 and so far I am very impressed. I mostly focus on automotive prints, so the ability to well utilize higher grade filaments is key for me. I like Qidi as a brand and I think this is definitely their most impressive offering to date.

[@willofthemaker]

I'm really tempted by this printer. I started selling some automotive parts recently as well and only have open bed slingers printing ABS. Works in the summer on hot days, but not sure if it will work well in a cold garage during the winter haha

[@802Garage]

@@willofthemaker Yeah the ability to do materials like PPA/PPS/PP with ease is a main draw for me. Gonna be doing a throttle body adapter for my V10 engine soon out of a PP-GF filament from a lesser known company that I think will be awesome. Have some cool plans for many other car parts too including interior stuff.

[@ebpman]

What do you print?

[@willofthemaker]

@@802Garage sounds awesome!

[@802Garage]

@@ebpman So far mostly oil caps, seals from TPU, bushings from hard plastic or TPU, brackets, small specialty tools, throttle body adapters, print in place bearings, phone holder components, and soon more interior parts as well or replacement NLA car parts like exterior trim.

[@rpetty]

Fantastic review. No nonsense, just great info.

[@TMS5100]

I bought a qidi 4 plus before watching this. What happens now? Will I go to jail? Will the printer explode? Will I get a hangnail?

[@tannga1]

Just bought my second one. Starting a mini farm with qidi only

[@ebpman]

@@tannga1 so far it's running well. Running about 20 hours a day.

[@Seaofjitsu]

X2 Qidi Over Bambu

[@ebpman]

@@Seaofjitsu right now given the size, if I had to buy another single color printer for my farm. This printer would be it. I actually have a second on order.

[@BennyTygohome]

Very excited about this. Ive two Bambu A1 series printers and want a figure enclosed printer now for things like nylon cf etc, things which require above 300°c and active heated chamber. And this looks like a good match and a good price too.

[@ebpman]

@@BennyTygohome me too. Waiting to get some of those filaments in for testing as well. I don't print that type often but excited to see the results

[@3Dgifts]

Wish it was 350x350 bed with AMS. Would buy it in a heartbeat.

[@JTs3DPrints]

@@3Dgifts I would love Qidi to release something with a 450 footprint and 600 to 650 max height. Throw in heated chamber and AMS capable. That would be very exciting. Electric bill will jump, but Id love it. Would require two circuits to run!

[@KloMeister123]

This is the Qidi Plus4, maybe there will be a Qidi Max4 with maybe about 350-400mm print size

[@3Dgifts]

@@KloMeister123 That, I believe, will push them to the front of the line if the quality of printing etc. remain the same. Ideally 500x500, AMS/MMU, and the same print experience will unseat X1C as the go to printer.

[@TechVirtue]

Cool video highlighting what seems to be a great printer and a strong rival to the BL printers! I never thought I’d consider anything other than a BL for quite some time, but this competition from QIDI came a lot earlier than I ever expected!

[@Valley3d]

I've been pondering this purchase for a little while and I'm getting very close... your video push me that much closer

[@ugpfpv361]

Just gotine yesterday... Coming from a ver1 ender3 it's amazing, couple of things of note, it is not quite as fast as I thought it would be, the 16 minute benchy is cool and turns out good but they have it totally tweaked for that print, I haven't had time to try and speed the stock slicer settings up... The other thing is when printing pla for instance they recommend that the glass top be left open, and it's a lot louder than the ender 3 even with the cover on but with the cover off... Yeah it needs to go in a different room, LOL

[@clark503]

Wow this printer is great. I have an Anycubic Chiron that I am just sick of working on to get a couple prints on until it fails again and needs so much attention. I have wanted to get the Bambu Labs P1S but I like to create keyboards and they are closer to 300mm in length so I really need a larger bed.

[@rescuemethod]

id like to attach an exhaust fan/duct to the back to remove particulate matter and vent it outside. How would you do this on this printer?

[@nachot6592]

Loved the review. Have you tried the Qidi Q1 Pro? If so, how do they compare?

[@tylersingleton9284]

Is it offline friendly? How about non proprietary parts and supplies? I am staying away from Bambu for the same way I am staying away from Canon. I don't want to be monitored by them or be tied into their product ecosystem.

[@802Garage]

Yes. Can be used completely offline. Has a USB port and Ethernet port. Qidi does not require any sign ups and you do not have to use the new Qidi Studio. There are profiles for Orca in the new beta 2 version.

[@tylersingleton9284]

@802Garage do you know if the nozzles are the same volcano format as the Plus 3? Doesn't look like Amazon has 3rd party parts specifically labeled for the Plus 4, but plenty of stuff for the previous generations.

[@802Garage]

@@tylersingleton9284 I believe they are new and proprietary, unfortunately. The newest version has a ceramic heatbreak which is kinda cool.

[@mooseworks_soldiers]

Do you still recommend it?

[@ebpman]

@@mooseworks_soldiers I do. They send me a replacement part for one of their parts. But it's been solid. It's printing money for us.

[@cliffordinggs9789]

thanks, the poop shoot nees to go out, sideways not to cover the fan and have a sponge to reduce the noise.

[@KeepYourPawsOffMe]

So right off 5 previous models of Qidi printers are not used unless absolutely necessary I think says volumes. So a month later would you buy a Qidi or a BBL P1S or X1C if you value print quality and high MTBF? Do you think the Qidi with its heated chamber is better than a BBL P1S or X1C for printing ABS? What about nozzle and hotend ease of replacing? Thanks for the info

[@NorthTXMountainbiker]

How does this compare with the XMax 3? The larger size of that bed has me leaning that way. I have an X1C, but the bed size has been a handicap for me. I'm not sure the plus 4 is enough bigger. I can deal with manually setting the Z offset. That said, is the Xmax 3 a printer I can walk away from while it's working, and not worry about it?

[@I2AT]

Thanks so much for the review. Does that printer do K value like the x1c with reading the extrusion lines before printing.

[@NarcoSarco]

If they release the fillament management system this will be perfect! i would love to see a preview of that 👀

[@802Garage]

Q1 2025.

[@ebpman]

@@NarcoSarco I hope to see it soon too

[@JTs3DPrints]

@@NarcoSarco I can not wait for AMS setup looking forward to it much! This thing flings poop at whiplash causing speeds!

[@OZtwo]

What is cool here is soon we will be getting the X-Max 4! I can NOT wait!

[@BadgerNNN]

All of a sudden that 🔥 icon in description became relative considering the 120v SSR board issue.

[@couryrussell7653]

I’ve watched a few review videos hoping someone might tell me but haven’t seen it yet. Is there a space on this printer to connect an external ventilation hose?

[@NeedItMakeIt]

It would requite something to adapt to the printer, the rear panel is abs, so it seems like it would be fairly straightforward. I'm looking into doing something like this too, what method are you using to move the air out?

[@peterclegg2609]

Looks superb but the new xmax is the one I'm waiting for, pleased they've changed the look of the printers too.

[@802Garage]

Will likely just be called the Qidi Max4 when it releases.

[@Arnos_3D]

You Must use normal Pla in Black to See real surface. On matt filaments all Printers Looks Great.

[@ebpman]

Thats what we run in our farm. But not all printers do well. I have the following Prusa XL, Creality k1, kic, k1 mac, Flash forge, anycubic, flsun, elegoo, flying bear.... They didnt do well with this pla out of the box. Even with flow and tuning they didnt look as good as my bambu and never made it to may farm lineup. I will have elegoo new one and the creality K2

[@JTs3DPrints]

Great review. My new 4 Plus arrives day early, will be here tomorrow. Keep watching reviews in the meantime, very excited! This is add to my Q1 Pro, XSmart3, and highly modified Ender3v2 which I learned on. Will be starting channel in Oct/Nov timeframe which covers 3d printers as used around my small wood and steel shop. The 4Plus will be exciting when they add the AMS 1st quarter 2025. I can not justify $2400 for Bambu Labs with heated chamber. I think Qidi has released a game changer based upon own experience doing engineering grade materials on my Q1 and even Xsmart3. Love fact moving up to the 305mm base plate. The new nozzle design looks very good as does the massive build plate. It really looks like Qidi paid attention to detail on this design, learning from past recent releases. I will say Qidi support has been first class. They listen to customer feedback and known to make changes based on customer input to their designs, even will to update manufacturing runs to ensure new additions and changes reach the public fast. You have a new subscriber, appreciate your review!

[@802Garage]

Got my Plus4 and did my first print last night. Came out pretty perfect, though admittedly it was a simple model. I subbed to your channel!

[@ebpman]

@@JTs3DPrints I don't do cosplay stuff or dragons. I run a business and this machine excites me so much. I don't want to spend time tweaking I want an appliance that just prints. As a business owner, time designing and selling is more important. This machine checks that box and has a great size. My prusa is catching dust. Lol

[@JTs3DPrints]

@@ebpmanThat is good to know! I primarily do tons of glass or carbon fiber prints, need the dimensional stability for large prints such as cases and dust handling equipment. I enjoy when I can hit print and know it will come out right the first time. My favorite material is Nylon, love Qidi PAHT-CF it prints gorgeous exceptionally strong prints which work well for some of the tools I have been making. I just picked up three rolls of their ABS-GF25 love that product also, looks great on outer walls with fuzzy skin set for .3 and .3 setting.

[@JTs3DPrints]

@@802GarageCongrats! Good to know, that is one beautiful machine, AMS will add some nice features. I will make poop shoot similar to one Adam Savage has on KZbin.

[@willofthemaker]

@@JTs3DPrints would be really curious to learn more about your success in business and what products you sell and where

[@radekkolanowski]

How well does it handle resuming a print (power loss, filament breaking due to tangling, replacing a new roll)?

[@JTs3DPrints]

@@radekkolanowski has resume from fail know my Pro resume works fine have not tested the Plus 4 resume but should work fine especially since set to use AMS un Qtr 1 2025. It does have the tangle sensor which detects tangle on reel and I know have similar on Q1 and it Definitely works well and resumed on one reel that had a tangle on me. This is highest quality Qidi release to date by a long shot! The first layers are absolutely spot on. 100% works perfect straight out of box and upon doing required firmware and software updates. 30 minutes to unpack and get running making perfect prints.

[@radekkolanowski]

​@@JTs3DPrintsThank you!

[@SlotCarMechanic-yr3st]

He's right, dont buy it, mine just arrived and heater bed is dead! has not printed anything!

[@802Garage]

Please check your power supply voltage and the heat bed connection and report back. Qidi customer service is excellent and the holiday is over so they should get back to you Sunday night or Monday.

[@markm75]

Can you use different size nozzles, ie: 0.2 for finer detailed prints?

[@KeepYourPawsOffMe]

I just noticed that you don't show the bottom of the coaster templates but there is a quick glimpse as you move them and it shows a really bad area that you also don't even mention as you say the templates are good for production. I think it was the BBL that printed it. Which one of your printers gives you the best and most consistent print quality?

[@ebpman]

@@KeepYourPawsOffMe Bambu for a time was the leader. Hands down, but this q4plus runs side by side my Bambu. I look for top and bottom layer finish as well as dimensional accuracy. It's ticks all the boxes. I can't post pics here but no elephant foot, no layer issues, smooth top finish and the precision I need is there. Now I am testing the Creality K2 plus. The bed size is massive and it too makes a hugh splash in my workflow.

[@MinionAtTheGate]

@@ebpman thanks for responding. I like the Qidi specs but just worried about printer quality issues so that is reason why I am considering Bambu Lab. I am getting a new printer to do ABS parts. Its between Qidi and BBL. I've been using an MK2S I built from a kit in 2017, that's 7 years of printing ABS and some PLA with all original parts still except nozzles and bed plate. It has been trouble free for me but is at its limits with ABS and its slow but very good print quality with just a foamboard enclosure. I want to relegate it to PLA and get a new machine for ABS. I print ROV hulls so nothing too complex but needs to avoid warping so the parts will join together nicely.

[@crismo7753]

It looks like the ptfe tube rubs against the upper glass. Is that true? I had the impression that there is a space between the left side of the door and the vertical side of the frame. How many millimeters of free space are there ? Thanks for the video!

[@802Garage]

It does rub very slightly for most people. The glass on mine and all the printers I've seen doesn't scratch from it and it doesn't really make any noise. Very slight annoyance.

[@twm4259]

Doesn’t rub on my printer.

[@joaquinmadrid3642]

Sounds like Bambulab lost the opportunity to make money with a larger XL printer.

[@ebpman]

Agree

[@TC-dk6do]

I doubt you will see anything new from Bambu due to the fact they are being sued for patient infringement.

[@randyjohnson7783]

​@@TC-dk6do They'll keep pumping stuff out until the lawsuit actually materializes. They've already announced that a new flagship is coming in 2024 and I wouldn't be surprised if we hear about it soon, especially considering all the good reviews this new Qidi machine is getting.

[@anonim1133]

Bambu is now an recognizible brand, while qidi is not. Not everyone will want to betray his favorite brand ;⁠) QC issues were noticed and highlighted on interwebs

[@joaquinmadrid3642]

@anonim1133 Well, I'm not married to Bambulab. I'm just a customer with some expectations. Brands can fall if they don't take care of the customers. There are a lot of examples. Some customers have been waiting for more than one year for the release of an X1c XL printer. Bambulab even confirmed in an interview nearly one year ago that they are working on such a 2nd generation printer, but beside of that, no one is talking about this anymore.

[@RegisWizard]

great review but your uploaded video is too soft (low resolution). comparing prints from the bambu printer is difficult as the details are not there. you might need to upgrade your video gear or record at higher resolution and bitrate.

[@ebpman]

Its 4k. Must be youtube. I will take some pics and place on social media

[@ipadize]

Its always youtube when you release the video directly after it has been uploaded. Maybe wait for it to be at 4k before releasing the video.

[@Muffins-lx8xd]

Video looks a bit grainy or not in focus?

[@ipadize]

@@RegisWizard looking at it again in 4k, yeah its not really sharp.

[@johanlarsson3638]

Well then it´s easier to tell everyone that the Qidi is better, when no one can se the layer lines.

[@JohnDoe-ot5ir]

My plus4 is on the way.

[@mattdixon8605]

Great review thanks!!

[@stickercambodia]

Nearly buy BL P1S but their sh*t region locked is dissapointed. Needed to add $200 shipping + $250 tax for international version to ship to my country. That's s*ck! Finally, decided to get this Qidi 4+ for literally $550, not a bad deal compare to that whooping $450 added on retail price of BL.

[@rayrayrun]

the nozzle have some filament after all that cleaning

[@ebpman]

I noticed that. I have been running it hard. The next job was clean though. I have put it thru 4 rolls so far

[@stew675]

That looked like something stuck to the silicon sock, and mot the nozzle itself.

[@DoctorEviloply]

What sells me on this printer is that it's available on Amazon. So I don't have to deal with Tarrifs and other hidden costs from importing such a large, bulky machine.

[@ebpman]

@@DoctorEviloply yup. Easier to return I hope as well. I am getting a second one.

[@DownUnderTechReview]

Bad form on the WARNING in the title, sure clickbait works but that word should be used only when there is a potential serious issue not just to get yourself views.

[@joaquinmadrid3642]

Is it possible to quickly interchange the nozzles? And what optional nozzles is Qidi offering? And could you please verify the maximum print size? There was another reviewer explaining that it is less than 305x305. Can you confirm this?

[@VDimitrov-lh4gr]

Can't wait to see Bambu's answer. Their next printer will be GOAT.

[@lucianoemme4227]

Hello, have some info about Max flowrate with default 0.4 nozzle? thanks

[@ebpman]

@@lucianoemme4227 let me see what I can find not home now

[@krue9497]

about Max flowrate is 25

[@Sonny3140]

nice sales pitch. You read the brochure like a champ. A review would be nice ;

[@802Garage]

LOL what do you think he should have said? "I didn't have any issues and I'm pleased with the speed and quality, so I'm going to make up complaints now so some random thinks I'm being fair!" I just got my Plus4 and the quality is fantastic. Was able to print a print in place bearing with 0.05mm clearances and it came off the plate with zero fused parts. It's fast, has a heated chamber, and it's $799. Who hurt you?

[@Sonny3140]

​@@802Garage i can see straight through you and this dodgy qidi sponsored video. But hey, troll away. I hope your next reply is as funny as the last.

[@802Garage]

@@Sonny3140 Your life must be full of paranoia and bias. Bizarre. I hope you realize that 90% of 3D printer reviews, the printer was given for free and/or the video is sponsored. They all review printers from many brands. This is a good printer. It's that simple.

[@Sonny3140]

@@802Garage if you say so. lol

[@tbip2001]

I agree very much a sales pitch. Not a review

[@monkeywrench1951]

About the carbon air filter, does it looks like it actually does something ?

[@timt8199]

You are better off getting a dedicated air purifier in the room.

[@Kei_Eichi]

Can I delete the old G-code from the touchscreen of the device? Or do I still need to delete it from Fluidd?

[@redline6871]

Really want this printer but afraid of getting burned like I did on the xplus3

[@calilifestyle]

Man the more i see this i really need to sell my q1 pro.

[@shervin2]

Qidi didnt make it big enough sadly. 350mm+ is the sweet spot for people to jump ship from their X1's and P1's. A shame really!

[@802Garage]

Very, very few printers are that large. It's $400 cheaper than an X1C, is quite a bit larger, can print much hotter, has a heated chamber, runs Klipper, and Qidi has great customer service. Their next release will likely be the Max4.

[@JTs3DPrints]

@@shervin2 I beg to differ, 305mm is their competition to Bambu X1 class……. Beats it on size and heated chamber……. Sometimes size does matter! Wait til the Max4 comes out, in meantime the 4Plus has caused a ripple in the industry which is good for all! Competition is good for all of us in the end. Qidi did an amazing job on the 4Plus design, paid close attention to quality, details, and customer feedback! Homerun! Have mine and it is an awesome machine, very happy……

[@jamespowell4950]

Is that a teleprompter type deal I see in that reflection

[@Jaydawg1250]

Can you add an AMS to this printer?

[@jimaiken1167]

Disappointed they don’t offer a smooth faced build plate. Some things I print I don’t want a textured surface.

[@nlkatz]

Great review (I subscribed), and fnally the first one of the 4 Plus to address the elephant in the room - does this reach Bambu levels of appliance-like usability. The question is, is it really as hassle-free, or just close enough for a seasoned pro; I'm a beginner.

[@bobbyw.6915]

Great presentation and video. I enjoyed watching it. But I clicked on it for the warning, there was no warning, just clickbait. Leaving a thumbs down for this one.

[@tbip2001]

Ive got a sovol sv08 coming today but ill wait a few months before ordering this

[@burgosadriel]

It's this or I build another voron2.4. Good seeing u in video hope the family is ok

[@ebpman]

No build here. Fully built. I have a voron. It just takes to long to build. This has great speed good quality and should have multi material soon

[@burgosadriel]

​@ebpman true. I want the plus 4, but should I worry about the electrical issue that arose latepy or is the firmware update solid fix?

[@Irek_Poland]

Wszyscy porównują drukarki fo Bambu. Drukuje jak Bambu, robi to i tamto jak Bambu. Jednak Bambu jest nie do pokonania jeśli chodzi o nowatorskie rozwiązania i jakość drukowania. Bambu dzisiaj wygrywa wyścig.

[@Immolate62]

The QIDI didn't do well on tolerance testing on Aurora Tech's review and the benchie tests didn't do well, so dubious. Surface quality seemed excellent, so it does seem to knock the K1 Max off the top of the single color heap.

[@danieljamesbinderystu2968]

Unfortunately mine has been nothing but problems for me. My prints are all coming out absolutely horrible. I am getting wavy vfa's and artifacts covering my prints from head to toe. Horrible layer lines, bad banding, weird chucky artifacts. I own 7 qidi printers and i am not gonna lie, i am pretty pissed and frustrated with this. I was so excited for this,.and ive been let down bad. I had a tons of very loose screws all over mine, including the back left stepper that was barely hand tight. I had to remove the auto belt tensioner to get to all 4 screws. 2 of the screws were stripped in the top belt brackets that hold the belts to the back of the toolhead. Also, i think my lower toolhead bushing was glued in crooked. It wasnt loose,.but after every print i am wiping off a very large amount of graphite from the bottom rail, especially on tje right side of the toolhead. Way more than the average break in amount of graphite. Mine makes terrible noises, even after lubing it. It resonates through my entire room so loud. Sounds likenits gonna shake itself apart. The prints i am getting off mine are worse than a 1st gen ender3 that was put together improperly. Thats how bad mine is, i feel completely deflated and frustrated.This thing has been a nightmare for me, i am almost guessing i might have received a demo unit that was not given any type of check? I dunno. Seeing everyones printing perfect sucks, cause all my plus4 prints look like a horror show.

[@jessie38supercharged]

what about the leveling?

[@JTs3DPrints]

@@jessie38supercharged level is spot on perfect first layers each and every print and filament I have tried on it. No thinking just prints! This is what has jumped out the most after over 48hrs of prints run with the 4Plus. It literally is a machine friendly to any level user, can be printing within minutes of opening box.

[@raiin2032]

Why does the comment section seems botted like Flsun did several times? Man what the F is this. Saying this is a competitor of the bambu x1c is a joke

[@greglangley4518]

Thank you.

[@juliusedralin311]

Nice review, but sides not so good on the QIDI

[@randydeserranno5575]

many issues already appearing on KZbin... I was interested... no longer.

[@hanakang2794]

About AMS Solution, will the firmware be updated by USB drive? or is it necessary buy new version of Plus 4 on Q1 2025?

[@PoloHungary]

small,280mm why not 305 cmon!

[@tbip2001]

Sonis this good to go out of the box? Or do you jave to do manual z set?

[@stew675]

The Z-offset is done automatically. The stock setup sequence has a manual bed calibration that is actually optional. It allows you to perform a mechanical bed levelling sequence to ensure that the print bed is as flat as possible, before the automated Z-offset and automated bed-levelling measurements take place. You do NOT have to do the mechanical bed levelling as it's already pretty good out of the factory, but the Plus 4 still gives you that option should you want to chase

[@bw162]

“Potential” to be good???

[@GLight_8D]

I saw few first look of thid Qidi and I can tell that print quality is low.. presliced benchy from usb is printed in 21 minutes and one that customer sliced is about 40 min.. Prusa MK4S presliced benchy print in 8 min qnd one sliced by customer print in about 20, all in better quallity than that.. of corse if you have Prusa MK4 (not S version) or older you can't know don't take me wrong Prusa is not best.. but no Qidi is not high quality or high speed printer, maby printing abs or asa show higher quality...

[@johanlarsson3638]

With those fixtures it was easy to see that the top one was Qidi, top layers did not look good despite that you tried to hide them with the viewing angle 🙂

[@rambokd]

I have seen 3 videos similar to this, only 1 said it had major issues. So is this release media hype or is it just ok? I mean the bar is so high and for $800 it needs to be spot on not just have potential.

[@Kimberlie1]

Do you mean Noizie? He just released an updated video. I think maybe you will be interested. He has solved almost all the problems by updating the firmware in his latest video.

[@rambokd]

@@Kimberlie1 So not trying to call anyone out but rebuilding the hotend and securing it properly on a brand new printer is not a firmware update. I see it flaunted as a X1C challenger but with nothing close to the quality of prints. I mean it’s not terrible but every one of the toaster test models were far from excellent and the prints shown had obvious zits and stringing. I know there is a lot of pressure on reviewers to give these pros and cons and I don’t know maybe not get sued. But videos claiming everything is fine when clearly they are not just makes it difficult to decide if it’s worth it or not. I had one in my cart and then slowly backed away. I have been tricked before and am very skeptical now.

[@JTs3DPrints]

@@rambokd no issues from own experience it prints flawless layers out of box. Ive done ABSGF and PLA have over 24hrs nonstop running it now just received it on Wednesday 26th. I had none of issues he mentioned.

[@3DATHENS-qi1tu]

nice video

[@thecsucihai]

A great review like this will draw some attention to the US government NSA agency. I wonder if these high end 3D printers from China will become a national security risk someday?

[@ebpman]

Lol

[@stew675]

All the source code is available, and if you distrust the executables that are delivered, you can compile them yourself. Qidi has embraced and supports the open source movement. Mind you, out of necessity in terms of support, then soft-lock the firmware versions to their official ones, but if you REALLY distrust them, you can actually throw all of that away and just install your own firmware.

[@thecsucihai]

@@ipadize I think they help the US governemnt justify the banning of all thing Chinese. Welcome to America. The people have no power. DJI, TikTok, Hauwei... "Yes, the US House of Representatives passed a bill to ban new DJI drones from operating in the United States on September 9, 2024. The Countering CCP Drones Act, which received bipartisan support, will now move to the Senate for review. If the Senate adds the bill to the 2025 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), it could eventually land on President Joe Biden's desk. The bill would add DJI to the Federal Communications Commission's (FCC) Covered List, which would prevent new DJI drones from operating on US communications networks. This would effectively make them unusable. The bill is part of a larger effort to address potential threats posed to the US by Chinese-made technology. Some lawmakers are concerned that DJI drones collect sensitive information that could be sent back to the parent company, DJI. The US has previously tried to block DJI drones from entering the country, including placing DJI on a sanctions list in 2017. However, the ban was lifted in 2018 after the US Department of Defense found no comparable products in the same price range."

[@thecsucihai]

@@stew675 Open source can't stop the US government. Any bit of data going to China is a national security risk. As far as the US government is concern, the CCP own and run everything Chinese. "Yes, the US House of Representatives passed a bill to ban new DJI drones from operating in the United States on September 9, 2024. The Countering CCP Drones Act, which received bipartisan support, will now move to the Senate for review. If the Senate adds the bill to the 2025 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), it could eventually land on President Joe Biden's desk. The bill would add DJI to the Federal Communications Commission's (FCC) Covered List, which would prevent new DJI drones from operating on US communications networks. This would effectively make them unusable. The bill is part of a larger effort to address potential threats posed to the US by Chinese-made technology. Some lawmakers are concerned that DJI drones collect sensitive information that could be sent back to the parent company, DJI. The US has previously tried to block DJI drones from entering the country, including placing DJI on a sanctions list in 2017. However, the ban was lifted in 2018 after the US Department of Defense found no comparable products in the same price range."

[@MrBiggs-wu2kf]

@@ipadize NSA? No Strings Attached, I think I saw some lol.

[@asbcustom]

Great video at 75% speed. Are you late for a parade or ...

[@802Garage]

Here I watched it at 2X.

[@asbcustom]

@@802Garage Speed kills man :)

[@richardh1467]

👍👍👍👍

[@davidcooper574]

305x305 is not that big.

[@ipadize]

Then its not the printer for you

[@802Garage]

It's larger than probably 95% or more of printers currently for sale.

[@davidcooper574]

They should have made it at least the size of the x max 3. Those who print large prints would easily pay more for a large core xy printer. The cosplay crowd would buy it. I print on a neptune 4 plus and 320x320 is not big enough sometimes without having to glue or weld piece together. I wasn’t saying it was a bad printer just wish these manufacturers would make something a little better. Great printers for the money just wish they were at least 350x350.

[@802Garage]

@@davidcooper574 The vast majority of 3D printer users don't need a printer that large. The cost goes way up and the shipping is insane. They will likely release a larger Max4 printer to cover that, at higher cost. Then they will have a lineup covering three sizes.

[@jz2188]

Qidi AMS ? Also all the test prints would fit on an A1 mini, use the full build capacity to test it, not a benchy, we want to get a big printer to print big stuff, trinkets are a basic requirement these days not a benchmark

[@imacmill]

Get 'em while they're cheap, my American friends, as Trump and his billionaire handlers are poised to slap massive tariffs on virtually everything.

[@joesample3796]

SOLD!

[@xDarthwarzx]

It's a great printer. But some of the things your saying are incorrect. For eg. U can't tell if a first layer is good from the bottom side. U have to see the squish on the top of the first layer to see how well it does.

[@802Garage]

You can tell if a bottom layer is squished enough by look at the bottom as there will be gaps if it was not. If it is very over squished you will have elephants foot too.

[@xDarthwarzx]

@802Garage the bottom if its over squished. Looks the same as optimal. Also a bottom layer can just be touching and look OK from the bottom. This is incorrect information. This is why 1st layer test are a thing. The reliable correct way is to look at the print first layer from the top

[@802Garage]

@@xDarthwarzx I feel like you literally did not read what I said. I agree there are certain aspects of the first layer you cannot tell by looking at the bottom of the print, that's why I listed the things you can tell. It is more important that the bottom layer be squished enough than not be too squished.

[@xDarthwarzx]

@802Garage which u cannot tell from looking at the bottom . I gave some maybes. But even in the most perfect scenario. Your gonna be more than likley wrong. Therr are maybe aspects which can make the bottom look like x. But your over extruding.

[@802Garage]

@@xDarthwarzx The same signs you get from over or under squish can also be caused by over or under extrusion. At this point I think you not only didn't actually read what I said, but that you just don't know very much about 3D printing and are regurgitating talking points.