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[@Leornianæfre]

Phil’s comedic fury and rage at the elves whenever a question like this appears is television gold.

[@kosefix]

Perhaps why his daughter became an elf...

[@AlanCanon2222]

@@kosefix OMG thanks for reminding me that it's Friday and there must be another episode of Fish up.

[@Doc_Filth]

@@kosefix That must have prompted an interesting family discussion.

[@sonicdiablo8968]

Best moment on QI

[@paulmichaelfreedman8334]

My favorite Phil moment is the Child buffing workshop. That one never gets old.

[@BuildinWings]

LOL! I also like "One, if you play your cards right 😀 "

[@sonicassassin1]

Where craftsmen would get toddlers to a high sheen.

[@JimC]

"Oh, _you're_ the _shiniest._ "🤣

[@anaveragesoviettankfromthe70s]

"More lacquer, little boy?"

[@AlanCanon2222]

When Phil makes the noise of the buffing machine's motor bogging down because the child is pressed against it. OMG I can't even.

[@BuildinWings]

Phill is my favorite guest of all time. Not that I don't love the others, but he just nails this show every time.

[@cbucks1923]

Himself and bill Bailey share the record for the most guest appearances I think

[@TheNazradin]

Gyles is the best guest, as he is related to every topic. But Phil is definitely a close second.

[@cbucks1923]

@@TheNazradin never ask gyles a follow up question 🤣🤣

[@slake9727]

@@cbucks1923 Gyles no longer needs a question to engage.

[@flyawaytodie]

He only gets a seat because his daughter Emily is/was a QI Elf I find him annoying and borderline obnoxious at times

[@CloudsGirl7]

I knew it by the title alone. 😆 One of my all-time favorite moments from QI. "I dare say that the drivers of New Zealand as they see the Sun setting are reassured to know... *that it's not there* ."

[@Fifury161]

I couldn't be bothered typing all that in, the delivery of that line is just exquisite!

[@CloudsGirl7]

@@Fifury161 'Tis indeed a thing of beauty.

[@oenrn]

"What shape is this staircase?" "It's not there!"

[@decodolly1535]

How is it that Phill's impression of Stephen saying "Mirage..." is better than Stephen himself saying it?

[@Knappa22]

Because it’s said in the voice of Lord Melchett!

[@PhantomObserver]

Phil holds a grudge about this - he rants about this incident when responding to whether “0” is an even or odd number, many shows later

[@MythicSuns]

I'd personally mark it 0 as neither odd nor even and as such is an abnormality, but at the same time I wouldn't be surprised if the subject is divisive among mathematicians and there's probably a few angles I haven't checked out.

[@peterfireflylund]

@@MythicSuns It's obviously even and there is no (zero) disagreement amongst mathematicians about it. More interestingly, it is the only rotationally invariant number (given the right font).

[@fehoobar]

@@MythicSuns If you don't want to directly accept it, maybe you can accept that it's even *by consensus.* Basically, 0 being even makes a bunch of math work.

[@WlatPziupp]

@@MythicSuns It's clearly oddven

[@donaldb1]

0 is definitely even by any definition. I can't imagine there is any controversy about that. What did QI say it was?

[@Capitano2475]

Phil's delivery is absolutely superb in this

[@Ocsttiac]

"What shape is this staircase?" "IT'S NOT THERE."

[@lyraalma5589]

I had hoped this clip would include the helix comment. :(

[@HairyHariyama]

"NOW PHILL!"

[@megameerkat2634]

SPIRAL! *sets off the klaxon*

[@dandodman]

I remember that the next question asked by Stephen Fry was "what shape is this?" The screens showed a spiral staircase. Phil immediately buzzed in and yelled "IT'S NOT THERE!" 😁

[@megameerkat2634]

And the other guy just sets off the Klaxon with the forfeit “spiral” and he just REVELED in it.

[@antster1983]

​@@megameerkat2634That's Robert Webb.

[@Dd-ue4ct]

I'm so annoyed no clip that remains on KZbin has that part on the end. That punchline is hands down the best part of the whole thing

[@petergaskin1811]

Helical.

[@Knappa22]

That line “I daresay the drivers of New Zealand, as they see the sun setting, are reassured to know… that it’s not there.” said in that pedantic tone, is one of the glorious moments of QI 🙂

[@DotBone89]

Ronnie: "I grew up in Scotland, and they are there!"

[@stevevasta]

🤣🤣🤣

[@harryturner8701]

“As they see the Sun setting it will reassure them to know… …that it’s not there” 😂😂😂😂😂

[@wuraolaolagunju]

Mirage

[@kholdanstaalstorm6881]

This is a gem both of QI history and an excellent example of the glorious attendance of Phill Jupitus in QI! Thanks to all taking part in bringing this up on QI and posting it on KZbin!

[@bramtahasoni]

Ahhh the fabled MIRAGE episode

[@TallSilentGuy]

I love the way right at the end he's still shaking his head while looking straight into the camera.

[@eastvandb]

He's lost the will to live.

[@lucaciprian8923]

I love the incredulous look of both Phill and Alan's faces when they hear the klaxon!

[@mickavoidant4780]

I can handle the thought of light bending. It's how my glasses work.

[@BigCalsWorld]

This video isn't actually here. Just a mirage.

[@dragonnox1091]

Yes

[@tvdan1043]

None of us exist. We are all just a server farm in Vladivostok.

[@joshrichardson5067]

Therefore the people watching the video, are reassured to know.. that it's not there.

[@cheezymcwang8431]

This clip needed 30 more seconds. I remember the next question and Phill really took it tot he next level.

[@NeatNit]

I can re-watch this clip every week for the rest of my life and never get sick of it.

[@eastvandb]

Yup. Whatever they name it.

[@_JustinCider_]

New Zealand's latitude is roughly between 35 and 45 degrees south, which puts it about as far away from the equator as Spain. The United Kingdom at latitude between 50 and 60 degrees North gets lower sun angles than we do.

[@Seetor]

I challenge you to consider that the earth is axially tilted.

[@eivindkaisen6838]

I tought the same the first time it was broadcast. In Norway, neighbouring Britain, where the mainland stretches from about 58 to 71 degrees North, there are very few accidents indeed caused by drivers being blinded by the low sun. Then again, Alan being wrong? On QI??

[@dylanadams1455]

living in NZ I can tell you that I wasn't aware that it caused that many accidents. Though it is real, and a bastard of a thing at times early morning/late afternoon. I'm more surprised that it's not a thing elsewhere, but the sun is a bit funny here - you can get sunburnt in 18 degrees C (about 65F)

[@numbereightyseven]

@@Seetor Yes, so the latitude numbers are an average for a whole year. We get that.

[@BiggiN483]

I'm from germany and yesterday the road was a blinding light.

[@98SfairesBand]

I would think, one of the most favourite and familiar moments of every true qi fan

[@barkerbeans620]

The way Phil looks even when he gets the klaxon for the buzzer is just like "oh fuck here we go"

[@Abbojnr]

Phil looks like you've told him he cant have a puppy for Christmas at the end XD

[@paulaus]

Phil being on our left of the panel is bending my brain.

[@Max_Flashheart]

I'm from New Zealand and I approve Phil's message

[@nothingtoseehere2336]

Anyone else been tempted back to watch this again after watching the "Is Australia wider than the moon?" video they've just posted?

[@captainboots]

This is one of my favorite clips, mostly because of Phil.

[@jayecoates]

This segment gets quoted in my household on an almost daily basis! One of the best moments in QI history.

[@SonOfAGunYYH]

YES! I saw this bit years ago and was hoping you'd upload it one day!

[@skunkrat01]

This is one of my favourite all time QI moments

[@trumsolon]

One of my favourite QI-moments!

[@tomboychick]

Every so often, to this day, Phill still brings this up when he can't wrap his head around anything scientific, that contradicts what his eyes are telling him! 🤣

[@kuidaorekitchen5850]

ONe of my favorite moments of QI.

[@johncallaghan5787]

The true and proper master of QI !

[@ivpt]

That was a very good Stephen impression

[@jb888888888]

Alan had a point though, it takes 8 minutes for the sun's rays to get to Earth so by the time we see it set it isn't "there" anymore either. Unless Stephen's point was that a combination of the 8 minute delay and the refraction results in the particular sunset phenomenon he mentioned.

[@wizardsuth]

That lag doesn't matter because the sun's apparent motion across the sky is caused by the Earth's rotation.

[@lewisirwin5363]

@@wizardsuth Wouldn't it though? The actual Sun would still have been hidden by earth's rotation 8 minutes prior to last light?

[@Craznar]

Well if you take that logic to the extreme, the sun set 8 minutes earlier.

[@almostfm]

No, because the effect of the Sun setting (or rising) is due to the rotation of the Earth-basically the Earth blocks the Sun. When it blocks it, it's sunset

[@Craznar]

​@@almostfm ** when it blocks it according to our vision, or according to geometry ?

[@sasukesarutobi3862]

There's a poetic beauty in the laws of nature being such that as it approaches the horizon, the sun slows down to prolong the sunset.

[@francaperotti5934]

Meet Phil after one of his stand up he is a lovely man

[@barbarajoseph-adam8337]

He was really there? He wasn’t just a mirage?

[@francaperotti5934]

@@barbarajoseph-adam8337 is that a joke?

[@stephenbudd6375]

@@francaperotti5934 no doubt a reference to his comical contempt for the mirage of the setting sun

[@SonnyDarvish]

My favourite QI clip 👏😂

[@danj9339]

The sun is actually even 8 minutes ahead of that as well because it takes 8 minutes for the sun's light to get to us.

[@torakunoichi]

Favourite moments are Phil getting pissed Phil doing his Stephen impressions And the lady talking about Scotland

[@christopherdean1326]

I love Ronni!

[@GormKjeldsen]

Ah.. A classic! 😁

[@migueldelmazo5244]

"have you ever seen a mirage?" Minutes after being shown an example of a mirage that we've all seen.

[@eastvandb]

I love Phil.

[@JimC]

Just to correct Stephen slightly, you don't have to be in the desert to see something like the picture at 1:17. It's a common sight in the summer on many rural roads. On the hottest summer days, you can often see a mirage on any street or road that's clear of traffic and long and straight enough, even in a city or suburb.

[@willch.2259]

He wasn't wrong about anything, it was just that his example was maybe not the most pertinent

[@imokin86]

True, I saw this mirage, repeatedly, on a very sunny but not scorchingly hot day in rural central Russia. The trick seems to be a long straight road free from shade of buildings.

[@decodolly1535]

Stephen said you see images of standing water on roads.

[@AppleGameification]

The UK.. they don't have hot dry weather lol

[@rachelcookie321]

I love how everyone just looks so angry at this one

[@lukakatavich8843]

I live in New Zealand and never have I heard of someone getting Sun strike like that

[@Elxmo]

I'm in Napier, blinded all the time. Mainly in the mornings being on the East Coast. It's not like it's comes of the road or anything, it's just all bright and you can't escape it.

[@AnnaAnna-uc2ff]

Thanks.

[@synthonaplinth5980]

"Not there...miraaaage." LOL

[@RIXRADvidz]

I hoped for a whole string of Phil's Philosophies, not just a few mo's in one eppy. Phil's Mind is an expanse of Humour and Timely Wit that can flatten an audience, everyone rolling on the floor, quite literally ROFLMAO. owell, perhaps now expressed my hopes will materialize and we can all enjoy a few extra moments of The Mind of Phil Jupitus.

[@TessaOswin]

The fact this episode was called hypnosis, hallucinations and hysteria is extremely appropriate though maybe not for the reason they though when name it. (I think they name episodes before they say as they are often said at the start, though that may be filming magic)

[@ConfusedRaccoon]

I saw Phill live a good few years ago and he sang a song called, if I remember right, Owls are Bastards. Does anyone know if I can find that anywhere online? It was a blast of an evening.

[@rayrowley4013]

Not "despite Phil's reluctance to accept it," but "despite Phil's reluctance to understand it." LOL.

[@lhfirex]

I feel like all the comedy in this is just looking at Phill and Alan. Robert too!

[@maartendejonge978]

Hmm, at 0:43 Alan makes a good point, actually. Technically the sun is below the horizon about 8 minutes before that point, as that is the time it takes the light to travel to earth.

[@skildude]

they also missed the fact that the sun light hits earth 8 minutes after it leaves the sun. Therefore, the sun is actually setting 8 minutes earlier than Stephen pointed out.

[@lousy78]

That doesn't quite apply in this scenario. The sun is eight light-minutes away yes, but the sun is not moving relative to Earth. It's Earth that "sets" the sun by its rotation. Think of it this way: you go outside at 11am and the sun is nearly at the zenith of the sky, and then later at 5pm the sun is now on its way to setting in the west. In both instances you're seeing the sun as it was eight minutes ago, but it's still right in the same spot both times you look up at it. The sun isn't moving; you're just viewing it from another perspective due to the rotation of the Earth.

[@klemensk8776]

The first time I saw this, I actually got the moment exactly right, only that I thought it was some pedent word play like "1% of the sun is beneath the horizon, therefore the sun has dropped below the horizon". So remember kids, if QI asks you to do one thing, do the other, for example if Qi says "point at the fish" you should point at the fish.... I love the show, but I hate it sometimes...

[@PianoKwanMan]

But there is no such thing as a fish. So, what do i point at?

[@klemensk8776]

@@PianoKwanMan @James Kwan ff....... I ment to write horse, not fish twice. Also how can something not be something ? Something can't be not be not something, can it? If you're created a something, than something has to be that something , otherwise you haven't created a something. So it has to be a fish, if there is the idea of a fish in the first place. So, eventhough 'fish' has no biological meaning, just point at the something that you believe to be a fish, for if you believe in the idea of "the fish" you are pointing at a fish and you should get points for that, if Qi wants it or not.

[@Senyoln1]

@@klemensk8776 The fish... Is not there....

[@inyobill]

Some folks were apparently completely baffled.

[@RoanCritter]

How did it take this long for this to get on KZbin? XD

[@todaywefly4370]

I once stood in the the yard of an outback station homestead and watched an entire mountain including trees and boulders (THAT WASN’T THERE BEFORE) slowly slip back down below the horizon in front of my eyes over about half an hour. Apparently it only happens under perfect conditions.

[@kelseygilmore7107]

I remember this fact so often, almost every time I watch the 🌅 sunset

[@isaac_aren]

Johnny Vegas, David Mitchell, and Phil Jupitas would be the best combination of people for being pissed off at Stephen's bs lmao

[@landlocked_lifts332]

*"Nooooooo. Note there. Miraaaage."*

[@iraiateporopiti3529]

As a New Zealander can confirm... Sunstrike can occur at any time of day. Causes accidents quite frequently.

[@LegacyFTW]

It is the strangest feeling when I initially imagined the correct answer and then banished it as a foolish thought before being walked back to wave at the answer I just discarded in my mind 😅😂

[@AlanCanon2222]

Making my brain call its own double-bluff is so much a part of what QI is to me. I've learned so much just because a random fact on QI led me down the rabbit hole of reading Wikipedia or other good websites on some factual subject. When I was young and just studying science, I made a mental "IOU" to myself that I would someday become truly well-rounded, and QI is that childhood dream realised.

[@klaxoncow]

NOT THERE. MIRAAAGE.

[@granthostheflatulent]

I want Stephen's tie. It's fab and groovy. Any idea where I can buy one?

[@jingyulee96]

I enjoyed the joke about there being puddles in Scottish roads :)

[@sirsluginston]

Interestingly enough, I would've buzzed at basically the correct spot - but not for the explanation given. I just assumed when the 'Sun' (there or not lol) started to cross the horizon it counted.

[@HairyHariyama]

They said they sped up the footage in the video, but they didn't say how much it was sped up by. Even if they didn't factor in the sun's light taking 8 minutes to reach us when they chose that particular frame as the right answer, going back 1 frame might be more wrong depending on how much the video was sped up by.

[@OriginalPiMan]

A note on that New Zealand bit. NZ is about as far south as the UK is north, so the effects should be very similar in similar weather.

[@andyFortyTwoNZ]

Invercagill is much closer to the equator than Brighton Roughly the same as Bordeaux, and Geneva

[@OriginalPiMan]

​@@andyFortyTwoNZ Oh, you're right. I don't know where I got the idea that it was further south than that. But that just makes the point even more stark, that any effects in New Zealand from having such a low sun, would be at least as prominent in the UK.

[@SonOfAGunYYH]

My only complaint is that you didn't include Phil ringing into the next question and immediately yelling "IT'S NOT THERE"

[@jonotermaat7247]

At what point does it begin the transition from real to mirage?

[@SlavaPunta]

Noon? I would suspect the atmosphere is always bending the light (except when it is perfectly above you). The angle just increases more and more as it sets as you're looking at it through a thicker layer of air.

[@estranhokonsta]

There is no transition. The mirage exist all the time. There is only an ever changing "distance" between what some think is reality and others think is a mirage. :)

[@drewlovelyhell4892]

There are lots of things that we see that aren't actually there. Such as distant astronomical objects. A rainbow is also a good example, since it is simply light reflecting and refracting off of water droplets, and if you happen to be standing in the right place, those beams of light converge in your eyes and create the illusion of a hovering spectral halo. But someone at the other end of the street would see it in a slightly different location, or not at all. Because rainbows exist in the human eye, not in the sky. It's a literal example of "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"!

[@Kiwi-ICU-RN]

Sun-strike is very real down here in kiwi land. And in actual fact, you can’t use it as an excuse for having an accident; if conditions were such that it effected your driving that much, you should have pulled over or slowed down.

[@freudsigmund72]

2:29 Alan's statement is way off. For example Queenstown New Zealand is at 46 degrees south, where again for example Penzance is at 50 degrees north or Inverness is at 57 degrees north. Thus the effect Alan is talkin about will be way worse in the UK than New Zealand.

[@sirtrollalot7762]

only difference is the uk doesn't get nearly as much sun

[@freudsigmund72]

@@sirtrollalot7762 that is irrelevant to the point Alan is making.

[@hairyscary8511]

You tell em Phil, as I don't drive directly into the sun on my way home to western Sydney in the arvo I'll stop wearing sunnies & not squint below my visor because its not there 🤣

[@ionlyfearphobophobia]

"You didn't see graphite on the ground. You didn't! Because it's not there!"

[@boon5760]

NZer here. The sun does indeed burn holes into my eyes when driving, but only really in the morning. Sunsets are fine.

[@JohnDoe-lx3dt]

Tis a little damp up here in Scotland

[@RoboBongoCuckooCop]

to be fair he says to press the buzzer once it drops BELOW the horizon, not fully below.

[@thomthom6268]

If I can still see the sun, can I still feel it's warmth?

[@mjneil]

Would it not also be 8 minutes earlier than that due to the time it takes for light to travel from the sun to earth so it's the refraction (?) Plus the 8 minutes travel time?

[@rachelcookie321]

I didn’t now sunstrike was only really a problem here in New Zealand, I thought everywhere got that. Also didn’t know it was called sunstrike.

[@SamPugh-ru2yf]

Next question what shape is this staircase Phil ITS NOT THERE 😂😂😂😂

[@Damian_1989]

N O O O O . . . *M I R A G E . . .*

[@HockeyWerewolf]

I think Steven looks his best with long hair

[@richardw64]

It is actually because of the curvature of the earth and atmosphere that you keep seeing it for longer than it is. My brilliant science teacher could not be wrong.

[@Chimera_Photography]

0:33 See the smidge of Sun at the bottom? It’s so weird to accept that’s not the mirage, that’s the Sun.

[@Emilpoika]

Sorry, but this calls for a Claxon for the QI elves. If the technicality of the mirage (how light bends through the atmosphere) means the sun had "gone down the horizon" physically, then you should also consider the eight minutes it takes the light from the sun to reach us. The video does not contain the sunset, according to their own standards.

[@JimC]

0:42 Alan almost got your point.

[@Emilpoika]

@@JimC I know right! Sooo close

[@ih8utoob51]

Is this only over a sea or ocean

[@theoriginalchefboyoboy6025]

Robert Webb looks like he's thinking of what he's going to sell at his next car boot sale...

[@tvdan1043]

They say of the horizon where the sunset is(n't)...

[@jpaxonreyes]

Can someone answer this then? Does the (apparent) speed of the sun/sunset vary as it gets closer to the horizon?

[@almostfm]

No-it just becomes more noticeable because when it's closer to the horizon its easier to judge the movement relative to the horizon. What _does_ change the speed of the sunset is the time of year. If you're at a high latitude in the winter, the Sun's apparent path is at a shallower angle, which means it takes more time to drop the same amount.

[@AlanCanon2222]

Question for British Islanders, from a Kentuckian Anglophile: do you get that "water in the road" mirage there where you live? We do in Kentucky on especially hot days (Kentucky is a temperate zone, not the desert, so it doesn't happen all the time, but it does happen).

[@owensims7491]

It happens, yes. But very, very rarely. The sun is only out for 17 percent of the year, and the average temperature is under 11°C (52°F). Moreover, few roads in Britain are straight enough for long enough to extend to the horizon. But occasionally, one might see one. Generally, if you're driving on a UK road and you see what looks like a patch of water in the distance, it will in fact turn out to be a bloody big puddle.

[@AlanCanon2222]

@@owensims7491 Thanks for the response. I live in Central Kentucky, in the Ohio River Valley. "Mildly hilly" might describe us well: imagine your own Devon and Somerset, just take away the sheep and put dairy cattle on the same land at a diminished ratio of roughly the same ratio as the mass of a cow to a sheep . The old roads in Kentucky, paved of course, in modern times, but still following the centuries-old routes, are mostly built to take advantage of the natural rolling terrain, so, like much of England there are few straight stretches of road, but we do have Interstates and Parkways, analogous to your "M" Motorways, that are of modern engineering from the get-go, and on those roads there are miles-long straightaways where mirages can be easily seen, at least in the hottest months of July and August. The mirages are of course these days explained with reference to [Pierre de] Fermat's Principle of Least Time, one of the most elegant observations of the 17th century, and a harbringer of the glory of the Principle of Least Action of the 19th century thinkers Hamilton and Lagrange, which idea in turn finds its full flower only after the quantum mechanics meets special relativity revolution of your countryman Dirac had taken place. It's a singular thing to realize that among all the normal, Newtonian phenomena of nature, that mirages were occasionally staring the ancients in their faces, but it took a Fermat to really notice it, and centuries more before the full import of what we see in the road on a hot day to really change our view of the world we live in. Greetings to you and those impossibly beautiful sceptred isles of yours. I've only been once, but, one day, as Doctor Who once said, "I shall come back."

[@bren106]

@@owensims7491 Or a fkn big pothole

[@violetskies14]

@@AlanCanon2222 It does happen but I'm 21 and have never happened to see it in real life so that should give you an idea of how common they are. You have to happen to be on the motorway at the right time on one of the few days a year it happens to be hot enough. I hope you get to come back here soon if you love it so much. We like to complain but we do have some really stunning sights to see, I particularly love coastal Wales but there are lots of wonderful places to see.

[@AlanCanon2222]

​@@violetskies14 In my one and only visit to England, it was mid March 2003. US President George W. Bush had declared war on Iraq, that country which did not attack us on 9/11. I was newly married, and my wife insisted that we do our honeymoon in England. I was ashamed, more than normal, of being an American, but we went anyway, out of deference to her. We spent a week in London (Edgware Road was where our hostel was), then we rented a car at Heathrow, I thought I was going to die, driving on the left, but she let me choose where in England we went next. I chose Oxford, Wiltshire (Stonehenge, Silbury Hill, Avebury), thence Somerset (Wells, Wookey Hole Cave where my Kentucky caving partner's father Oliver Craig Wells of the H. G. Wells family did pioneering cave diving 1955-1958). Bath, where we caught the Tallis Scholars rehearsing in Bath Abbey. Thence across Devon (the only county in England with two non-contiguous seacoasts!) and out to Cornwall, where my primary objective, which we did achieve, was the Museum of Victorian Submarine Telegraphy at Porthcurno. My wife took sick, so I drove myself from Porthcurno (the Cable Station Inn) to Penzance (yes, THAT Penzance) to find a late night Sainsbury's, which I didn't, but a smaller store sold me analgesics for her. Highlights of the trip to Porthcurno was meeting a Ms Mary Godwin, local historian. I exclaimed, "I'm from Kentucky, we only have 250 years of history, but at 2,000 years, you've got a job!" Ms Godwin seemed appreciative that someone who showed up did have a clue, and she said, "2,000 years, yes, you have got a job." After that we drove east northeast, and visited Bletchley Park, where my namesake Alan Turing led the effort to crack the German Enigma Code, visited Cambridge, briefly, then did the Chunnel (my wife had been a nanny in Paris) for a two day trip to France, all driving (and I had to get used to driving on the American right side again). I saw Marie Curie's grave in the Pantheon, and the Catacombs. Then it was back through the Chunnel to England. Our last night, we stayed in London not far from Whitehall, in a hostel which was also permanent residence for local pensioners, and sitting around the television, with old London men, I had my favorite normal conversation with English people that I'd ever had.... I mentioned Louisville (my home town) and they all said, "Muhammad Ali! The 'Louisville Lip'!" In all my time living in Louisville I never knew that he was called that. I'll be back, with politeness and gratitude towards your beautiful country redoubled, thanks to my earlier visit, and in consideration of so many other wonderful things about your land, and the amazing and hallowed (by me) people who live in it. I ain't George Bush or Donald Trump, and if I stand up with a guitar at one of your pubs, I will play only Flanders and Swann songs, with my Kentucky singing accent scrubbed out and my best British singing dialect on offer.

[@mauricecriddle]

I can imagine a court case in New Zealand where a driver claiming to be afflicted by sunstrike is found guilty because at the time they had their accident the sun had already officially set.

[@redcatchem2345]

because you know. the 8-ish-minutes it takes for the light to even reach us.