Qo'Nos: The Klingon's Home Planet

[@Allangulon]

The house of Quark is one of my favourite DS9 episodes!

[@starshiptrooper2354]

Mine too

[@khanwayne8281]

Watched it the other day with my son still holds up.

[@Allangulon]

@@khanwayne8281 I picked up the entire series on dvd in a collector box for $40 from a thrift store a few months back!

[@Bitchslapper316]

D'Gor, son of whatever

[@khanwayne8281]

@@Allangulon Practically a steal and in line with the third rule of acquisition: Never spend more for an acquisition than you have to.

[@Vaylenisme]

The 5 great unifiers of Star Trek 1. Surak. Unified the Vulcans with Logic and Philosophy 2. Zefram Cochrane. Unified Humanity with Science and Openness 3. Emperor Kahless. Unified the Klingons with Honor and Victory 4. Jonathan Archer. Unified different races to form the United Federation of Planets 5. Spock. Unified the Vulcans and Romulans

[@jaugustussmith5816]

The transporter unified Tuvok and Neelix

[@Marinealver]

J.J. Abram amd CBS. Destroyed the Romulans and split the Vulcans from the Federation.

[@Vaylenisme]

@@Marinealver Yah, but everyone (fans included) have been having the Vulcans be standoffish with the Federation. And the Romulans were becoming stagnant. The Klingons became allies, the Dominion retreated, the Cardassians collapsed, the Borg got spanked (whether we like it or not, and for the record, I didn't). But the Romulans just stayed mustache twirling bad guys. They had no character arc (with the exception of helping against the Dominion). It was nice to see them shaken up.

[@fluffly3606]

6. The player character from Star Trek: Online. Unified just about everyone.

[@kabobawsome]

@@Vaylenisme And, important to note, the Romulans still aren't toothless. In Picard, after their destruction, the Zhat Vash had an agent at the top levels of Starfleet. And the Zhat Vash were stated to be an inner circle made of Tal Shiar agents. Meaning the Tal Shiar had WELL infiltrated Starfleet. This also explains the bizarre situation with Discovery's Burn. Is it a bit dumb? Yeah, but if you're going to move a Trek series to the 32nd century, what is the threat? The Romulans and Vulcans are re-unified, the Klingons have been steady allies for centuries at that point (it's said by the writers that the Klingons even eventually joined the Federation, although operating as a bloc of former Klingon space rather than planet by planet, so the Empire still existed within the Federation). Everything was even more set in stone than before Romulus blew up, even the BORG had gotten in on the action. The Federation needed to be BADLY shaken up and in dire straights for there even to be drama at all.

[@JackMValentine]

I love how in school we probably would have just been bored by a presentation on a planet or other culture, historical lecture on some city. Being old has its perks.

[@solaris025]

It’s also not real and you are interested in the fandom. Half the struggle in school is not being interested in the subjects. I doubt you would be watching this if it was a video on Venus or Mars.

[@germansnowman]

@@solaris025 I bet there is a significant overlap between people who are interested in sci-fi and people who are interested in astronomy and science in general, as in my case.

[@akoden2667]

Not me. I've had a fascination with other cultures, languages and life on other planets since I was very little. But I think you're right about that with the majority of people.

[@Nemoticon]

"One does not simply warp into Qo'Nos"

[@Marinealver]

The J.J. Abrams version of Qo'Nos was garbage.

[@JDEhlert]

@@Marinealver As far as I'm concerned, the Abrams Klingons proved that Spock fell into a long-established timeline that was already different from the timeline he came from. Klingons... not the usual type...

[@occultatumquaestio5226]

Qo'Nos is indeed a fascinating world with all it's wonders & dangers, and it is enjoyable that more of it has been seen in recent years across newer movies, shows, & games. Going spelunking down some of Qo'Nos's magma tunnels would be a fun experience. So far these _Star Trek_ planetary overviews have been most interesting. I'm curious to see what world will be reviewed next. Romulus? Remus? Tellar? Cardassia? Orion? Trill? Betazed? Cait? Nausica? Ferenginar? Plenty of options.

[@SandySquirrelofBikiniBottom]

Kronos

[@wraithleader2906]

Dilithium mining on Praxis is mentioned in the game “Klingon Academy”

[@SquireDAF]

That was an awesome game!

[@nagash303]

Rura Penthe comes to my mind.

[@superstarmcgee1128]

@@nagash303 that was the mine community on praxis.

[@rosswebster7877]

Great world survey as always. I'd like to see a video sometime on the vassel species of the Klingon Empire, both canon and beta.

[@barbarossa5700]

The best space Viking samurai there is.

[@PeoplecallmeLucifer]

next video: differences between houses .... I'd love to see that TBH

[@finregan9322]

Yessss lovely stuff....keep this planet series going rick......splendid

[@johnadger6699]

I thought that place would be crawling with predatory animals, but it makes sense that it isn't considering Klingons are creeped out by tribbles.

[@superstarmcgee1128]

Targs are pets for a reason!

[@johnadger6699]

@@superstarmcgee1128 How can a person even sleep knowing there's a damn tribble lose in the house! Yeah having a targ is probably a good idea.

[@superstarmcgee1128]

@@johnadger6699 Klingons are NOT PERSONS! 🤣👹

[@thesinfultictac5704]

Klingon's surprisingly eco-friendly

[@jamesricker3997]

Because Qo'Nos is an extremely hostile Doing anything to make it even more hostile wouldn't only be stupid it would annoy your neighbors and potentially start a blood Feud

[@gallendugall8913]

Klingons, Romulans/Vulcans, Andorians, Tellerites - there's sort of a trend in Trek of technologically advanced species having issues with self control... except the humans... except the augmented humans... it's almost as if every species went through it's genetic engineering phase and then dealt with the psychological fallout as a culture except the humans who rejected the technology.

[@superstarmcgee1128]

U hate yourself huh .

[@tyrionlannister3459]

The augments were ejected into space in the 1990's or after because they were taking over. So, Earth and humans did have that in their history just not to the same degree as the others.

[@BlueRidgeBubble]

Poor Karl Urban, relegated to the star trek game app adds We want more Dredd

[@superstarmcgee1128]

He actually looks good doing it ironic or not!

[@BlueRidgeBubble]

@@superstarmcgee1128 Of course he does He's Karl Urban

[@Cavemanner]

How sick would it be the have Karl Urban as a future Dad or something?! Edit:lmaoooo autocorrect. *Dax, not Dad, but it's staying.

[@DiecastDreamCustoms]

Isn't the reference to mining in the briefing about Praxis from The Undiscovered Country? I'm not sure, but I think Spock calls it out when he's on the podium. Fantastic video, bud! -Vic

[@mb2000]

The Klingons also visited Caprica in the Battlestar Galactica universe at one time, as there’s a Martok Valley on that planet 😂

[@DMSProduktions]

Sci-fi borrows heavily from each other! LOL! Probably an 'homage' to BSG'S producer!

[@squeaksvids5886]

Kor must have been there and had a child with a local and called him Giaus Baltar.

[@LoganHunter82]

@My Dixie Wrecked🔨 Ribbed for her pleasure

[@mrbojangles8133]

no natural subspecies of Klingons

[@jim405]

Were the Greystones from the Martok valley?

[@justmadesomethingup]

@Certifiably Ingame - How much lore do you think there is on Betazed and the Betazoid people? Enough for one or two videos?

[@Silverlightlive]

It would be hard to research, but what about a video on the various Klingon houses?

[@nicholasmorsovillo2752]

I remember the first time we heard the name of the Klingon Home world was in Star Trek 6:The Undiscovered Country and the first time we saw the Klingon Homeworld was in the Star Trek The Next Generation Season 3 episode 'Sins of the Father' and we saw it again in the Star Trek The Next Generation Season 4 episode 'Redemption parts 1 and 2'.

[@RazeAVillage]

Hey, great video! I would love it if Trek had more episodes that took place on Qo'nos or however they spell it. In any case, thanks for making tis. It was the planet I wanted to hear most about. Ferenginar would be another fun one. Apparently, it's a super wet planet.

[@KEVMAN7987]

2293: Moon exploded. We have to evacuate. 2365: Everything's fine. Why do you ask?

[@timo191]

Is there any canon answer to that question?

[@KEVMAN7987]

@@timo191 Not yet.

[@mb2000]

They were on about evacuating Qo’Nos in Star Trek VI and that it would take about 50 years. Nothing else in the movie or anywhere else says they ever came up with another solution, so once the peace treaty was signed, maybe they did just that and moved planets, naming the new one Qo’Nos as well, so by the time of TNG there new planet was fully settled and being the capital of the empire.

[@3Rayfire]

The destruction of Praxis wrecked Qo'nos' ozone layer and filled the atmosphere with radioactive pollution. They then made peace with the Federation in exchange Federation technology. You see both Earth and Vulcan suffered devastating nuclear wars that irradiated their atmosphere. Earth was fully restored from said Nuclear War only a century later because the Vulcans shared radiation clean up technology to help humanity get back on its feet. Thereby the Federation has that technology and considers it old hat, and we humans managed to undo the damage to our own Ozone layer. In plain non-Vulcan English the Federation considers ecological repair technology to be normal technology, while the Klingons who have only focused on military technology don't have it at all. In exchange, the Klingon Empire and the Federation agreed to a bilateral disarmament and dismantling of the Neutral Zone. The Klingons were incapable of maintaining their "cold war" military footing with the Federation *and* dealing with this ecological disaster. The Khitomer Accords are a framework for strategic arms reduction, finalizing territories, and all the things that go along with making a permanent peace in addition to formalizing the Federation aiding Qo'nos in remaining an inhabitable planet.

[@rickbaze8791]

@@3Rayfire really? Nuclear cleanup technology? Where did you get this from? I guess that's one way to fix a large loop hole in this video. In The Undiscovered Country it was stated the Klingon home world had 50 years and not we need to share resources and give nuclear cleanup technology to the Klingons

[@bepishepus3506]

Petition for a series about the Qo'Nos Park service.

[@DarinorSteven]

I had the idea that Qo'Nos was originally in the Eridani Sector, later to be renamed New Romulus. I also thought that previous to the Khitomer accords that the planet had to be evacuated, and that the current Qo'Nos was the beta version. Because the moon collided with the original planet. It wouldn't really surprise me that the beta Qo'Nos moon would be mined and used as an asteroid belt for defensive purposes. I'm not complaining, it's just difficult given different mapping systems and complicated history to figure these things out. What's the deal with the etymological spelling Kronos vrs. Qo'Nos? You mention toward the end of the video that Klingons are working out details like interstellar Post-colonialism, and that honor can be found outside of the battle field. STO indicates a 'mystic warrior,' status that seems to seam such intricacies. Also transxenographical Klingons is an expansive topic. The right to fight like a Klingon, ergo: respect among Klingons, seems to coincide with a civil rights momentum. It wasn't until the Dominion War that Naasicaans proved themselves in battle, which frankly, Martog was expecting that right? Meaning that their 90 day or whatever, Empirical trial had expired and that Naasicaans were no longer a vassal state, or at least certain inalienable rights would be less alienating. This must apply to most Klingon non-genome Klingon species. So I guess. What I really like about your vids is that they remind me of things, and a poli-soc in the theater of fiction can sometimes help us make determinates in the non-fiction world. Glory to the Revolution, Rick of The House of Certifiably, you again honor us!

[@stofsk]

@4:40 doesn't Sulu say Praxis is their key dilithium processing facility in The Undiscovered Country? Or was it some other line?

[@Bkings7]

I think the line is something like "praxis? That's their key energy production facility" or something

[@ryank5424]

Yeah, he said it was their key energy production facility. Add to that insufficient safety measures and some over mining (ST:6) and BOOM!

[@JB-ym4up]

It was a cheap copy of a federation Hanford class energy production facility, missing some of the radiation shielding and other safety measures to save costs and lower complexity.

[@IIGrayfoxII]

The Concept of Honor has also changed with in the klingons. It was Noble Deeds, then victory in battle even if the opponent was unarmed, then they changed it to be dishonorable to attack the defenseless

[@rleeingram]

I disagree that victory over an unarmed opponent is dishonorable, the honor is Victory. If the enemy failed to prepare themselves with weapons that is not the warriors fault. its just an easy Win. Just like the federation loving people that say Klingons are cowards for using cloaking device. A coward runs from battle. A warrior wins the battle. Cloaking device is just camo for space. It allows you to track and stalk the enemy and attack when its in your favor.

[@IIGrayfoxII]

@@rleeingram So attacking a civilians merchants is acceptable.

[@rleeingram]

@@IIGrayfoxII always has been in war. So yes

[@stevengalloway8052]

Another excellent video. Thank you... 👍

[@peteskeet9443]

These are awesome. Great you are making cool videos.

[@davelamphier5811]

"Glory to YOU,... And your home world!"

[@thomassalois3508]

A favorite pastime of General martok was hunting Sabre bear on Kang Summit

[@squabbbb]

Im surprised we never see a Klingon take up Surak's teachings. Both the Klingons and Vulcans share incredible strength and are easily overcome with emotion - youd think someone would find the common ground

[@Allangulon]

I think Klingons are far less emotional than Vulcans and the use of logic makes the Vulcans far more dangerous!

[@johnadger6699]

That would be very cool to see that.

[@squabbbb]

@@Allangulon oh definitely, I'd argue that makes it much more plausible for a Klingon to pick it up later in life. Like learning to ride a bike with stabilisers rather than none

[@3Rayfire]

I imagine there are many cross cultural individual traveling the Galaxy. A Romulan that lives by Bushido and Zen, an Andorian who finds Kahless' way appealing, a Klingon that follows cthia (Logic) and studies Vulcan martial arts.

[@JB-ym4up]

@@3Rayfire good side story material for sure.

[@SampoPaalanen]

Something that might be interesting to cover is Corusant from Star Wars (if not already covered) due it being a city planet.

[@JaredLS10]

Its been pretty well flushed out on other channels. Generation Tech/Films did a whole video on it.

[@isaacdestura7495]

I think the templin institute also did a video on Coursant

[@destronia123]

The Klingon homeworld was originally called "Kling". The "Chronos" name thing seemed to come out of nowhere with Star Trek VI.

[@johnsteiner3417]

Homeworlds of Mass Effect. Not even concerned with which ones. Maybe just do them all.

[@3Rayfire]

This.

[@antwan1357]

Dude you are on a role keep up the great work.

[@bipolarminddroppings]

Easy solution to the Alpha/Beta quadrant thing is stellar drift. Everything in the galaxy is moving relative to each other, the home system of Klingons simply moved from the just inside the Alpha to just inside the Beta quadrants over the time between ToS and TNG.

[@ryank5424]

You could also argue it is due to maps being refined or the redefining what constitutes a sector, quadrant, etc.

[@PathsUnwritten]

Had a nice presence in "ST Into Darkness"

[@d.b.4671]

Blingons.

[@Marinealver]

This is why I refuse any CBS Star Trek as much as I refuse Disney Star Wars.

[@randyranderson690]

As an old-school fan, thank you for mentioning the old name for it: Klin'zhai

[@CZ350tuner]

Not one mention of the biggest canon event & influence on the Klingons, as mentioned many times by Worf, the invasion of Quo'nos and centuries long occupation by the Hur'q, which began during the Klingon's medieval period. Worf states, in DS9, that the Klingons eventually overthrew the Hur'q, learnt to operate their starships and sought out the Hur'q colonies & home world, wiping them out completely. Many Hur'q warships still existed in the Klingon fleet, at the time of the Federation / Klingon War and many examples are shown in ST Discovery, particularly the Sarcophagus ship. The Klingons gained all of their warp drive, impulse, transporter and weapons technology from the Hur'q, they did not innovate it themselves.

[@ChrisTheDuck20]

Im curious. Is there any info on aldae outside of the episode of its introduction?

[@Dr.Westside]

I know it's not a Klingon moon but I wouldn't mind seeing your breakdown of Rura Penthe , the Klingon prison colony .

[@Bludvarg]

Qo'Nos' brutal past somewhat hearkens back to prehistoric Krypton (yes, Superman's home planet), at least to me. Granted, the Kryptonians ended up closer to Vulcans in pretty much every incarnation I can think of (so it didn't really affect the evolution of the people of the planet), but that savage state did inspire an alien scientist named Bertron to create Doomsday...who was constantly sent down to the surface to die, the remains harvested, altered, and resurrected, and then have the process repeated thousands of times. Because the test environment alone, without any alteration any of the times he was sent down to die, was enough to produce a being capable of killing Superman by _sheer brute force_ alone...that's one killer planet. But of course, there's more to it than that, and Krypton is infamous for its destruction and the myriad ways it could have happened (often unexplained).

[@little-wytch]

I've been binging your vids lately. Great work and very interesting content. Have you thought about doing a comparison of the Q Continuum from Trek and the Ascended Ancients from Stargate?

[@spacetimegeek]

You should do a video of the Hur'q and their clash with early Klingons.

[@jean-lucpicard3012]

Fascinating place. Make sure you have friends there.

[@toddkurzbard]

Fact: the "Klingon" name came from a fellow policeman and friend of Roddenberry's, Walter Kling.

[@hamishsewell5990]

Maybe a vid on how Arrakis shaped the Fremen in Frank Herbert’s Dune?

[@corssecurity]

Yes but considering how uptight humanity is and youtube specifically certain aspects of Betazoid culture could be an issue. A society that embraced casual public nudity would be an excellent study in health and body image. Would the population be concerned with staying in shape and appearance? Would they just not care about appearances? Or from a cause and effect, if the population developed well adapted to thier natural environment, would clothing be necessary? Modesty is a human concept, but is it only a human concept? Further if the population naturally kept the fit n vigor associatied with youth on Earth well into advanced age, which we saw in TNG insurrection, would that contribute to societal acceptance of casual nudity. Imzadi suggested this (beta cannon) where Tori sensed Rikers distraction by her body. So she undressed and let him get used to it. Titillation and the biological response would end presumably in a short period of time. Or a few hours. The Ferngi don't clothe thier females.

[@xzeroangelx]

Romulus and Remus next?

[@roundbrick4890]

Day 22 of asking certifiably ingame to cover the borg assimilation process

[@johnadger6699]

Rick carries the weight of the world.😆

[@I_am_Diogenes]

Maybe try : Day 1 after submitting script about Borg Assimilation Process ?

[@planescaped]

_Food low... morale waning, sent my sherpa out for coffee but the poor bastard never returned...._

[@JB-ym4up]

Persistence is futile.

[@nagash303]

they wanted to connect faster to the internet, so they invented those brain interfaces, and this activated the hive mind, now microsoft controls the world, and assimilated all humans.

[@Mark-xh8md]

Can I just draw everyone's attention to Qo'Nos being absolutely, demonstrably fine when Praxis was destroyed? A shockwave felt many, many lightyears away should have entirely obliterated the planet.

[@JaredLS10]

Yeah, the whole praxis explosion never made sense. If its a moon of Quonos then the planet would have partially destroyed and life would not survive. Now if its a moon that is in Klingon space then Quonos would be ok. That said though...the shockwave makes no sense at all, we are lead to believe that the Excelsior is near the border with the Klingons and they get hit with it out of no where. Basically the whole scene tells us that this shockwave is from a very recent explosion and hit a starship light years away and gave little time for the starship to react. Did shockwave travel at highwarp?

[@mb2000]

Well they were on about evacuating Qo’Nos in Star Trek VI and that it would take about 50 years. Nothing else in the movie or anywhere else says they ever came up with another solution, so once the peace treaty was signed, maybe they did just that and moved planets, naming the new one Qo’Nos as well, so by the time of TNG there new planet was fully settled and being the capital of the empire.

[@ianfranklin2216]

Could we please get information on what happened when Worf changed from his Gold Baldric in the first season to the Baldric we see him wear afterwards?

[@barrywhite6060]

It would be great if there was a book series about the Klingon's in the time of Kahless that's like the 'Old Republic' stories in Star Wars

[@richx5064]

Do Ferenginar next. Maybe you can explain how a planet is always raining. Also, since the Ferengi have unregulated capitalism it must have huge ecological problems. Pollution of all kinds.

[@rainer1980]

I was always really disappointed by how Qo'Nos, and Romulus were both depicted in Star Trek because unlike Vulcan where you'd see these vast, mountains, and desert landscapes, all you saw on Qo'Nos was city landscapes. But, it's hinted in various dialogues that there are lush forests, and landscapes never depicted on screen.

[@kaitlyn__L]

Pretty clever to make the prototype Klingon Empire symbol into Kor’s personal house crest. Maybe I should watch Discovery again to see if they have Kol wearing it…

[@3Rayfire]

I'm not a huge fan of B5, but the Minbari homeworld would be dope.

[@stanislavkostarnov2157]

always wondered, we see in the panoramic images of Qo'Nos that they have a light railway network....how extensive is it & what would it be like inside though? always wondered... do any games use it as part of there world?

[@UGNAvalon]

I know it’s silly but... how about a video on the history of Earth? It’d be interesting to try to see it explored from an “outsider”/“Trek historian” point of view. 😅

[@rommdan2716]

It would be cool if you talk about Trantor, it is basically THE capital that inspired all the other capital planets of science fiction and space fantasy.

[@thirdpedalnirvana]

I understand the confusion. Praxis was not a dilithium mine. Rura Penthe was. They were in the same movie.

[@shmee123ful]

I hope you cover the zerg from starcraft oneday

[@originaluddite]

Is there enough info on Tellar Prime for a video?

[@Tk52781]

I thought in The Undiscovered Country, they attributed the explosion on Praxus to the over mining of Dilithium ?

[@therealist3837]

Pretty sure Spock just mention “over mining and insufficient safety precautions”... could be incorrect

[@mittensfastpaw]

I gotta create a weird addon to block all Discovery based images.

[@thedayidied]

Didn't someone in Star Trek VI say that Praxis' mines were specifically dilithium mines? It's been a while since I've seen ST VI, so maybe I'm wrong, but I could have sworn someone (on the Excelsior, I think) said there were dilithium mines on Praxis.

[@Roxor128]

You want suggestions for other planets to cover, and not just Star Trek? Okay. How about Skaro and Mondas from Doctor Who? Those date back far enough to let you get into the black-and-white footage for screenshots. Also, look into the Big Finish audio dramas. There's a Fifth Doctor one set on Mondas (titled "Spare Parts").

[@ShojoBakunyu]

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[@Numba003]

A video on Malacandra from the novel Out of the Silent Planet might be fun? Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you friends.😊

[@That80sGuy1972]

Isn't there supposed to be a radiation zone after the Praxis explosion where megatons of dilithium ore fell into the planet with much of it vaporizing and infusing within the matter there? It's an honest question. I remember it being from a trek fan discussion group not long after the movie where the moon exploded.

[@1TakoyakiStore]

I remember my dad's old star trek screensaver (either late 80's or early 90's). One setting would be little factoids of many planets from the series. I distinctly remember it naming the Klingon homeworld as simply "Kling". I have no idea if this was considered canon for a time?

[@Corbomite_Meatballs]

It was in the TOS novel era, pre-TNG. A lot of stuff that's considered beta canon or purely fan service had it as that.

[@kaitlyn__L]

They were going to call it that in Sins of the Father and then in a last minute rewrite simply said “the homeworld” because they thought Kling sounded terrible. I believe it was TUC that came up with the name Kronos finally.

[@1TakoyakiStore]

@@kaitlyn__L Oh that's a cool bit of trivia! That also fits in well with the timeframe of when that screensaver debuted.

[@alexmacdonald1998]

I have an old reference work circa 1/2 season tng called world's of the federation. It refers to the klingon home planet being Kling, as well as a number of other "facts" about klingons that have since been contradicted. Apparently Ron Moore hated this books depiction oh klingons, and went out of his way to rewrite as much of this lore as possible. Can't say I blame him, some of it was pretty dumb

[@JDEhlert]

Praxis may have had dilithium or something equivalent given its destruction created a subspace blastwave that translated across lightyears that Captain Sulu ran into.

[@AtlantiansGaming]

With NewCanon, Praxis as a Dilithium-Rich Mine-World would be a bit of a foreshadowing of ‘THE BURN’.

[@Delosian]

No mention of the Klingons becoming part of the Federation? In TNG: Samaritan Snare, Wesley Crusher asked Captain Picard if an event happened "before the Klingons joined the Federation".

[@jorgnocke991]

Fate - The Winx Saga please can you review this book can you make a video about this book thank you so much please keep up your amazing work stay safe and have a wonderful and blessed day

[@DavidPopowich]

Well done!

[@Mnogojazyk]

Bela Okmyx’ definition of “cooperation.”

[@paulcooper9125]

Why does worf wear the koloth symbol in s2 e20: the emissary?

[@Reddotzebra]

That feeling when the Klingons has done a better job of preserving their planet than humans. I mean yes, Earth is a very nice planet in the Star Trek universe but we did let a lot of species die out before we became enlightened... Through one of the bloodiest wars in human history.

[@anlumo1]

“Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon.”

[@richardtrue2758]

In Star Trek 6 didn't Captain Sulu say Praxus was their key energy and dilithium mines ?

[@redshirt0479]

Excellent video. Though I have to comment on the editor's note. Discovery seems to be keeping to what was confirmed in the shows, but is not caring so much about what was in apocrypha (or what unreliable narrators said) unless it fits in with the story being told. Which in my mind, is probably the best way to go about things. The old stories can be considered prototyping or 'what if' scenarios and are still enjoyable in their own right even if they and the shows do always agree. Plus they were never meant to be a proverbial straight-jacket. Plus it's a good way to divest a lot of unneeded baggage going forward and making sure that people don't feel like they're missing something critical because they didn't read some source book from 1983.

[@AdamantLightLP]

I just find STD and ST:P uninteresting.

[@redshirt0479]

@@AdamantLightLP First off, DIS and PIC. You don't say STV for Voyager or STE for Enterprise Second, why did you just reply to give a personal preference that has minimal bearing on the previous post? I don't care if you don't like it, but it feels like you're trying to be a wet blanket.

[@3Rayfire]

I look at it the opposite way, the apocrypha isn't baggage, but rather legwork that you don't have to do filling in the blanks of the universe. Canon isn't a straight jacket, it's a history.

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@3Rayfire the definition of apocryphal is that it’s literally not in the primary source, or as the OED says, of doubtful authenticity. “Canon” (or “alpha canon”, if you like) refers to what is textual in the on-screen instalments. If the TV writers were beholden to the books, then TNG-era Romulans would have had to be beholden to Diane Duane’s books. Not a judgment on the books, many people quote her Rihannsu books as among their favourite Trek novels today. But, among other creative considerations such as just getting to explore the wider possibility space, well, there’s the simple one in that they’d have to pay royalties! It’s just like Nimoy said: open your mind, let Star Trek take you to new places, explore the possibilities. (Well, I’m paraphrasing him because I CBA to look up the exact quote.)

[@3Rayfire]

@@kaitlyn__L The Rihansu books are the perfect example. A rich look at something the primary canon hasn't explored yet that would provide a rich ground for the canon to actually grow into. I'm not saying it should all be canon, I'm not a fan of Destiny for instance, though I love the Vesta. But while I have approached the additions with an open mind I've found some of it to be... lacking.

[@notmyrealname6150]

In "Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country" the planet has 50 years of life let to it after the explosion on Praxis, but it is still inhabited during "Star Trek: The Next Generation".

[@cheefmtn850]

Brilliant

[@georgesulea]

Nicely Done:)

[@Bondoz007]

And q'pla to you Ric!

[@skywise001]

Dilithium Mines are refrenced in the novel for Star Trek 6

[@georgethompson1460]

112 lightyears away! Given warpspeeds they're practically neighbours!

[@johnadger6699]

And great fences make great neighbors.

[@rowanmoormann9532]

That's Awesome

[@thomassalois3508]

Always did like the Klingons and their Homeworld

[@petbird19]

We talk a lot about how it's an Empire but after a literal lifetime of being a trekkie I know next to nothing about the royal family. Can you make a video about the Klingon imperial family?

[@nobodyyouknow1065]

Thats how you spell that? My whole life has been a lie.

[@kaitlyn__L]

That’s one of the ways of transliterating it. Klingon can also be something like Thlingan. So Klingon and Kronos could be said to be more anglicised versions. Think competing ways of putting Cyrillic into Latin script.

[@thalljoben3551]

Used to think it was "chronos" myself.

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@thalljoben3551 that’s how I had always pictured it as a child. And Worf was wharf, and Geordi was geordie. Etc

[@nagash303]

it's spelled Qo'noS, Gre'thor, Fek'lhr, & Sto'Vo'Kor

[@8Aznable8]

I was always curious about the travel time in Star trek, on most of the maps a saw the distance of the federation and the klingon empire are wast but some how they can come around real fast. In star wars I can accept the time difference because of the hyperlanes but here space travel use warp so not much of a fast lane we can speak of. It took voyager years to get back and the original estimation was decads.

[@thehillbillygamer2183]

Is the Klingon homeworld of the 24th century the same Klingon world homeworld of Star Trek 6 did they save it did they just move to another planet what happened

[@marmac83]

It was only considered to be in the Alpha Quadrant in DS9.

[@ManicPandaz]

What do Klingon plants look like?

[@keithtorgersen9664]

When in Klingon history were they invaded by the Hurq?

[@giladpellaeon1691]

Nal Hutta and Nar Shaddaa from Star Wars would be interesting. Or maybe Kuat or Corellia

[@ericmadsen7470]

Gotta love those turtle heads.

[@shanenolan8252]

Unit in undiscovered country ? They say energy rather delirium , like we say energy instead of petroleum or oil

[@planescaped]

It's still "Kling" to me dammit! Heh-heh.... _Kling..._

[@pertuk]

What was wrong with calling it Kling?

[@mickeyholding7970]

How could someone give a thumbs down what a sore head.