QSC KS118 vs QSC KW181 IS IT WORTH THE UPGRADE?

[@kellyaustin7487]

I'd stick with the 181's bang per buck, size and convenience. Clients love the thump and could really care less what model they are. Keep making that money with the 181's. If it aint broke, don't fuck it up just because your ego wants you too. One Love broski.

[@jiggyblends]

Thank you for the this video, I got a call from the GC hear in Virginia Beach to come hear the new QSC ks118 and in person these things are a beast, I mean: Yorkville, JBL VRX, EV ETX18SP type beast even at low volume. This video doesn’t do it justice, you have to see/hear it to believe it.

[@hollywoodthedj1673]

Oh word cause I have the 18sp’s so I’m definitely going to have to go up there & hear these then!

[@bekkerthesokuangeldragon68]

I love my 2 QSC 2,000 watt DJ Speakers ( K10.2 K.2 ) AND Now to buy that sexy MONSTERIOUS QSC KS181 3,600 watt subwoofer

[@fatevans1015]

DON'T DISRESPECT THE JBL SRX828 LIKE THAT😂😂😂

[@jiggyblends]

Oh for sure no disrespect to, JBL but if I had to compare it to a JBL it would definitely be the VRX single 18” speaker 🔊 as far as size, weight and hit factor

[@djgazaaka5000]

@@hollywoodthedj1673 was it better?

[@abdonrodriguez3586]

If you're invested in the kw 181 it really doesn't pay to spend all that money for a little more thump....In the end the clients aren't gonna ask why you don't have Ks 118

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

I agree

[@derickrose663]

Facts plus tax

[@paginini]

True but it depends if ur live performance it will

[@alidurrani4107]

Happy with the 181 Syper durable and to me sounds deeper

[@derickrose663]

I love my 4 181s they are the bomb they haven't let me down

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Same here bro

[@TheVoiceofRwanda]

I’ve two of them and I love them. They don’t take up too much space in my minivan. How do you set you gain! I always set mine at 12 0’ clock, I’m afraid to go pass that

[@derickrose663]

I set my gain at about 1 which gives me plenty of bass

[@thurstn967]

KW181 always better- deeper lowest contour. If one could afford for stacking two for each side with two RMX 5050 for the job.

[@kenocharlie8478]

I can’t find DJ Carlos EM’s KZbin Chanel. Please post the link to his page.

[@carlosem6498]

Awesome video Joey! I hope you make the upgrade soon!!

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Will see Thank you very much for letting em Hear your new toys

[@DJSHaKa]

QSC did such a great job with the KW181, this is why they sold for 10 years and people paid a premium. Fun fact - They used a Celestion FTR subwoofer with vented Ferrite magnet, spring push terminals, multi layer spider protected by a plastic riser, 4" voice coil for exceptional excursion and a weather treated cone which ensures for a long extended life.

[@bekkerthesokuangeldragon68]

I thought the KS181 had a 5 inch Voice-Coil?

[@daveonvocals6158]

Thanks for the video!! Definitely going to upgrade!

[@vincentmondesire2244]

Hi I like to know how much for the ks118 and the 181 I am very interested in purchasing (4)of each of them

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

@@vincentmondesire2244 I don’t sell them

[@vincentmondesire2244]

Also I made to understand ks118 at full blast pass 12 they those shots down is that true

[@DeanSalesVideos]

It’s been a hell of a task find a guitar center that had the two subs the KS 118 and the KW 181. I believe this is a marketing strategy in order to promote and sell the ks 118’s. How in the world are you to decide when there is nothing to compare it when you go to these stores. This is just my opinion, another individual may feel different. And I messed around with both subs for at least 45 minutes to make sure I was hearing right. What I heard was that the ks 118 does have harder kick. In other words, if you’re playing a song and kick drums drop, the ks 118 is wicked, it’s definitely has more punch, but what I’m looking for that that super low bass frequency that you hear or feel in your chest, when a bass chord is plucked on an instrument and no matter how I positioned the subs, or played with the volume gains on the back of the subs, there was just something about the kw 181 that keep me feeling satisfied. The bass is low, the bass carries a little longer that the new ks 118. It felt like it was more round, while ks 118 felt more linear, almost like a stab or a jab. I personally like the extended low frequency bass of the kw 181 you feel the bass in your chest and not just the kick drum like you hear on the ks118. The ks 118 is beautiful and has non visible speaker grill and all but the Kw 181 can still stand the test of time. So for the dj’s out there I believe if you play a lot of dance music and perhaps house and techno go with the ks118 but if you play r and b, hip hop, reggae. You might do better with the kw 181. Just my opinion. I think if youre undecided go take a listen for yourself. Thanks

[@DenisDamulira23]

KS118 just gives you better headroom and will limit much much later.i love the KW181

[@DeanSalesVideos]

D. Corey I have to agree with you on that statement 100%. The new ks 118 does have more headroom range but that’s all. The KW 181 is grimy with his bass and has that growling bass that I love. I dare anyone to play some Dancehall or some old reggae music as a comparison to each of those subs and then tell me what you think.

[@DenisDamulira23]

@@DeanSalesVideos As a one man Team most of the time.Compact but powerful setups are my go to.same with lights.I go for wide beam kaleidoscope types mostly that way 4 can do most of your average size gigs and 2 laser lights at opposite corners of the room.Done

[@DeanSalesVideos]

D. Corey Have you gotten a chance to listen to the KS118 versus KW 181?

[@abielpangga6314]

If ur going for deepness dont go for qsc. Go for jbl srx. The srx828 is the best bang for ur buck. I bet you the single 18 could even beat the ks118.

[@earljaxfl]

Great video I will definitely get Ks118

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Nice 👍🏼

[@djbeazy]

Keep the 181 until they fall apart then upgrade. If you need a new subwoofer then go with 118.

[@ikonkoroma9902]

To me the they both punchy but the 118 stay longer in air while the 181 fade quicker

[@EliVillasana]

Good video, gentlemen! 👍🏼

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Thank you 🙏🏼 bro

[@renyd1019]

You said the KS118 had more punch, but which one has deeper bass?

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

The ks118 wins

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

The ks118 wins.

[@renyd1019]

How about the 16 lbs difference in weight between the 2 subs? The KS118 looks more narrow to carry.

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Possible thicker wood, bigger woofer Magnet, heavier amp components

[@djchikano82]

I just bought the KS118 woofers, The casters rattle so bad did any one replaced the wheels?

[@soyyo9704]

It would be nice if you guys did a comparison of the ks118 and the cva-121 I know it’s different size woofers, just curious cause I am deciding the two of them.

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

If I come across someone near me that has them. We will do a comparison

[@sagarjha3933]

What is that storage rack in your garage

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

From Costco

[@dadjbig]

Nice video.. We definitely like the comparison videos

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Thank you bro

[@DjBriteEyes]

thanks for the review i just subscribed to Carlos keep up the good job

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Thanks bro

[@DjBriteEyes]

DjJoey Pina always!

[@verrettproductions3487]

They do weigh more but I find it much easier to lift due to it not being as wide.

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Yup 👍🏼

[@DJFriendZone]

Yeah plus they unfucked the handle situation xD

[@yveswesh4572]

How much prices

[@dj_yulianni_events8915]

Hola buen día y cual subwoofer se escucha más fuerte el punch ??? Saludos desde Los Ángeles California

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

La ks118 pega más duro

[@LEDEZMAPRODUCCIONES]

@@DjJoeyPinaDJ es mucha la diferencia? Ya que tengo un kw181 y pienso en comprar otro, o si es muy grande la diferencia seria vender el kw y comprar el par de ks

Yo tengo la misma duda, tengo 4 kw181, ¿conviene cambiarlos?

[@Pinoysoundmachine74]

Ks118 definitely delivers a knock out punch compare to ks181. However, Both of these subs are capable of delivering bass at any event. Hey, it’s QSC you can’t go wrong with either of these subs.

[@floydwilliams9668]

181,are they available???

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

181s are discontinued.

[@ghislain6543]

You make very good videos

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Thank you

[@alexdefrancisco3066]

Bro what do you think of the kw152? What do you think about the power output. How many people can you do with those without subs?

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

I haven’t tested the kw152. It depends the type of event, the room size and the type of music you’ll be playing. Weddings vs Proms will be more demanding

[@ashkrikorian5753]

Any top regardless of size will have a punchy low end... however if you want really deep bass, you need a physical subwoofer. You can handle a wedding of 150 people no problem in the dance floor with a pair of 152s

[@jmat313]

Thanks Joey & Los.

[@ghislain6543]

If you want good sub just buy Yamaha dxs18xlf, Is simple!

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Thank you J

[@MobilediscowirralCoUk]

Do you feel it has better driver? Shame not neo bit lighter? Wish they make decent 15”

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Yes I think is a nicer tighter sounding driver And yes a neodymium magnet would have been nicer and lighter

[@michaelreed5173]

Will somebody PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE 🙏 do a comparison with JBL828SP VS QSC 181KS SUB PLEASE 🙏

[@TOPCHOICEDJSELECT]

Great video, shared this with two people who want them now. You sold them lol.

[@djdashdfw]

Keep the comparisson videos coming!

[@MrCamz28]

Great video review. From you guys opinions look like The ks118 is a little more punchier.

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Thank you bro 🙏🏼

[@bekkerthesokuangeldragon68]

I'm going to be buying / getting the KS181 3,600 watt subwoofer soon

[@derickrose663]

@@bekkerthesokuangeldragon68 good choice

[@djrambo1554]

Good video bro!!

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Thank you

[@armandomrgl85]

Do you still have the qsc kw181 sub's?

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Yes

[@abelsifuentes8311]

@@DjJoeyPinaDJ cuanto por los bajos viejos

[@erickrivas48]

Ya vendiste los kw181 ??? I am interested

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

No los he vendido

[@erickrivas48]

@@DjJoeyPinaDJ donde vives yo estoy en Sacramento CA.

[@GTAVince]

QSC vs l'Acoustics who would win?

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

I need to find someone who has those

[@luchighwalker7524]

Probably L acoustics

[@bensmith1195]

L’acoustics would be miles better, but that’s not a fair comparison as they’re in a completely different class and the l’acoustics are far more expensive

[@monique85]

bass on ks118 little bit more rounder and deeper but not by much to me

[@djblvdrodd]

I’M GLAD I GOT THE QSC KS118

[@djprentowalker8878]

how does the 118 sound to you

[@lensmccracken3678]

Great video

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Thank you

[@ClectaSkiMusic]

Cool video thanks

[@ckcc1209]

How much u selling the 181?

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

1000

[@DJakeRestless]

I've got 2 kw181s, can I add a ks118 to that system without sounding bad?

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

I think is better to keep all models the same. To make it look and sound nice Mixing models may or may not work

[@lucyferina]

You can but need to make sure to keep the phase the same and the mode the same, in all the reviews I've seen the kW sounds a little deeper than the ks, but the ks has better clarity, and better features, I guess if you gave both you can tweak the settings and match them up as close as possible . Test at the store if possible, but QSC remains a decent mid level speaker so you can't go wrong with either one.

[@vichaixiong5160]

You could end up with what they called it sound cancellation.

[@kumbiakumbia6582]

Cual es mejor de los dos ...???

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Las dos son buenas. Es difícil

[@abelsifuentes8311]

Buen video saludos desde San Antonio tx ..segun power amp module es el mismo

[@hazaelvidal442]

Quieres decir que suenan igual de fuerte?

[@Earthcitizen4609]

Real people real talk liked it

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Thank you 🙏🏼

[@djmata7980]

good job colega!

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Thank you 🙏🏼

[@josephwebb1067]

The Old one sound just a good as the new one to me.

[@jaycam2886]

Trust me there is a huge difference in person i had the kw181 now i have the ks 118 the bass is chest pounding

[@drewsim_]

The answer is just yes.

[@elchache21]

Can you try the ev etx 18sp with the ks if theres someone that has it around your area..

[@abdonrodriguez3586]

In my humble opinion the real difference is in the box, According tov QSc the 118 has more reinforcements which will result in a tighter bass where as the kw181 is a little bit boomier...i sold one of my 181’s and was thinking of selling the other to purchase the 118 but common sense is telling me why trade a 2020 vehicle for a 2021 and the only difference is new tires.

[@luchighwalker7524]

Jeeeeeeeeez that 118 sounded fuckin massive

[@djerickjentertainment]

Nice !! Carlos the best !

[@bekkerthesokuangeldragon68]

I CAN'T WAIT TO GET THAT MONSTER SOON! :D I can't wait to unbox and open that cardboard box top to see that sexy lookin' SUBWOOFEH! (Subwoofer)

[@bekkerthesokuangeldragon68]

I have a Seismic Audio Boosted 1,600 watt 18 inch subwoofer and that sub is crazy aswell. I have 2 2,000 watt QSC K10 K.2 DJ Speakers and that Seismic 18 inch subwoofer. I have the seismic subwoofer in my house and going to get that QSC KS118 3,600 watt subwoofer. For my house AND use it for my DJ gigs with the 2 QSC K10 K.2. ( Also am i supposed to have all speakers and DJ set Master Volume / Master Gain all to 12 O' CLock position? Like straight up to 0% ? I never get replies whenever i ask that on videos )

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Very nice

[@hightideentertainmentusa7726]

@@bekkerthesokuangeldragon68 not on the QSC subs. I run mine between 8 & 10 o'clock or about 4 to 7 clicks from the bottom. I've been running KW 181's since their introduction. Nine or more gigs per week. Never had an issue. Best wishes!

[@bekkerthesokuangeldragon68]

High Tide Entertainment USA I meant to say KS118 sub and isn’t that further than a safer position of the master gain volume on the sub itse? All my gig speakers and my DJ set master gains is at the 12 O’clock position and I heard that’s a safe spot just Incase if it damages?

[@hightideentertainmentusa7726]

@@bekkerthesokuangeldragon68 All my speakers are at 12 o'clock. My subs I run as I previously explained. No failures in 10 years or clipping. I can only say that about my QSC speakers & subs. I DJ, host karaoke, & run live sound for bands at six nights per week currently. I'll also be purchasing the new QSC subs soon. I hope this clarified any concerns. Good luck!!

[@tyronebrown8971]

Yo what them sub woofers run in price range

[@bekkerthesokuangeldragon68]

The QSC KS181, That's $1,500 USD ($1,499 USD on Amazon. Technically $1,500 USD)

[@Tom-lv2xv]

the sub moves because the box is not rigid enough, so the box starts to vibrate at it's eigen frequency. If the box is calculated right it would't move.

[@djtone3g]

The KW 181 are the best and hit hard to me they have the deep bass

[@pedrovillegasradio8516]

Saludos Joey en resumen en español cual es la diferencia entre ambos

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Más potente la ks118

[@Luisduartedj]

@@DjJoeyPinaDJ recomiendas armar un set Ks118 con K12.2 y para eventos de que tipo funcionan? o para lugares que tan grandes puede cubrir?

[@garthmuir6023]

The old one sound deeper than the new ones. The new one just sounds like it’s louder cause is further up the spectrum

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Yes

[@UmfUmfworld]

KLA 118 looks not pro and I found the 181 is more pro looks and harder kicks.

[@djalexd562]

Buen video queda claro quien es mejor por favor sácalo en español

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Voy hacer lo en español pronto

[@Joseluis-dh4mo]

Dicen que los nuevos patean mas duro que realmente puedes notar la diferencia inmediatamente que si los comparas uno al lado de otro los nuevos son como 5 kilos mas pesados que si usted cuenta con los anterior modelo y no quiere agregar mas peso pues esta bien pero honestamente los nuevos son mejores

[@djmata7980]

los nuevos son mejores por mucho, ahi dejo mi video en español. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIXSdouJgLeDb5I

[@anthonytrivisonnojr]

5:31 ks181 6:36 kw118

[@dj_yulianni_events8915]

Muchas gracias y buen día

[@pacio270]

Buenisimo video saludos

[@totytoti4511]

Estoy esperando uno vidio en espanol

[@ghislain6543]

You want good sub just buy Yamaha dxs18xlf , Is simple

[@djosvani]

ghislain roy got a pair of those babies!! They go low and sound awesome

[@donjuanjo1000]

Ahora en Español Brother!! Please

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Voy a tratar de hacerlo pronto

[@donjuanjo1000]

Muchas Gracias 🙏 por su vídeo! Saludos desde Chicago

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Saludos buenos días

[@victorestradamusic3263]

Entonces cual es mas poderosa ? No entendi nada jaja

[@donjuanjo1000]

@@victorestradamusic3263 Las nuevas y por que tienen una capacidad de distribución de sonido más amplía.. Casi cuestan lo mismo !! Saludos

[@dj_pollo1727]

Cual recomiendan

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Cualquiera de las dos son buenas. Las kw181s ya las descontinuaron

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Cualquiera de las dos son buenas. Las kw181s ya las descontinuaron.

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Las 181s ya no las venden

[@donjuanjo1000]

Guitar Center still have some in stock!! But I will buy the new model!! Nice Video Champions!! 👍🎤🎼🎧

[@thomedmonds7910]

should have gone with the Turbosounds..they will blow both of them out

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Which Turbosound model?

[@thomedmonds7910]

The IQ 18b

[@djthomas325]

I’ve heard the turbo. They sound good. But man qsc are some work horses. I’ve literally drug my 181s thru hell past 5 years. Not one problem.

[@NoizTheDj]

Thom Edmonds no they won’t...

[@DJCarlos774]

I like the new one but the kw 181 to shy good bye to kw 181

[@bekkerthesokuangeldragon68]

You know you can still get the KW's if they're still up for sale)

[@SluTubeTV]

Im Sold

[@DJPOPAAL]

1 Peavey RBN215 will destroy both of them hooked up at the same time.

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Thank you for your opinion This video is not about what other subs are better There’s many other better options we know This is just a plain comparison of 2 QSCs new and old

[@danieldiquattro1246]

@@DjJoeyPinaDJ what a great time for dj gear most of these manufacturers are putting out great stuff so just comes down to personal preference I agree there are better options out but you pay for them bassboss great example those things just blow everybody's minds the first time they here them just get your checkbook out though great review thanks!

[@JM-xc8uo]

We use ETX18sp’s! My friend runs 4 boxes of the RBN. 2 ETX’s gives all 4 boxes a run for there money! This QSC is very powerful this is coming from an EV guy! I can’t wait to see EV’s response on this.

[@abielpangga6314]

@@JM-xc8uo tell ur friend to get a jbl srx and he will be happier

[@MrHooskerdu1]

Anyone that buys Peavey is throwing their $$$ away on junk.

[@fatevans1015]

JUST SELL THEM BOTH AND GRAB THE JBL SRX28!!!

[@kutzaudiolive979]

I heard and tried both subs....and they both sound BAD PERIOD...... once you hear a BASSBOSS sub, you'll notice how bad other subs sound.

[@hollywoodthedj1673]

Come on man that’s not even fair bass boss is in a class all by They self ain’t too much of nothing fucking with bass boss they killing shit right now that’s why they super duper expensive lol

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Exactly

[@DjJoeyPinaDJ]

Thank you for the comment But we are not saying there’s more better subs out there

[@kutzaudiolive979]

@@hollywoodthedj1673 yup.... I guess ever since I've heard BASSBOSS it spoiled it for all of the other mass-market subs..Yes they cost, the results are second to none and I am very happy!

[@kutzaudiolive979]

@@DjJoeyPinaDJ I understand and I'm not trying to step on your toes. In fact the only other sub that I've heard that sounds close to BASSBOSS is RCF, and they're even more expensive than BASSBOSS.

[@Fizyxx]

Yamaha DXS still beats them.

[@MrHooskerdu1]

Nope. The Yamaha has less than 1/2 the wattage of the QSC. Not as tight sounding either. The Yamaha is a nice entry level speaker though. When you're ready to go big league, get some QSC speakers.

[@Fizyxx]

@@MrHooskerdu1 I have them. I have KW181s and DXS subs. I have used QSC KW153s and K series. Yamaha is better. You're still hung up on watts which tells me you have a lot to learn still.

[@MrHooskerdu1]

@@Fizyxx I've listened to both, side by side. You need to get the QSC and improve your PA.

[@aholder4471]

@@MrHooskerdu1 As much as I absolutely love them, I wouldn't call these QSCs big league speakers. They're great mid level speakers and wattage is a horrible predictor of performance. Considering that everyone is comparing the older 2k watt QSCs with the newer 3.6k ones and saying that they like the older ones better, tells me that QSC probably used the majority of that extra wattage for more headroom. Which is great, because you can get a cleaner sound and the Sub can recover quicker from big transients, but won't help you much on extended low end freqs, which is what everyone seems to be noticing. And in the professional world, Yamaha has more products than QSC. And that is coming from an absolute QSC fan boy. I have used and love all the KW series stuff, but there is always something out there better. If you really want to step up your rig, get some D&B, Funktion1, L'acoustics or Meyer Audio speakers. But on the mid level pro-sumer market, is it really that hard to believe that Yamaha might have a better sub out there then QSC? It isn't hard for me to believe. Perhaps an open mind might lead you down the road to a discovery you may have otherwise missed.

[@bensmith1195]

The yamaha dxs18 is better than a kw181. However the dxs18 isn’t the best model from yamaha anymore, that’s taken by the dxs18xlf. It gets louder, extends deeper and just straight up sounds better than the old one, which was already better than a kw181. The QSCs are nice subs, and exceptionally reliable, however Yamaha’s dxs18xlf is straight up a better subwoofer in every way

[@hollywooddjs1]

not much at all.