TRADITIONAL VS MODERN COMPING FOR DRUMS | Jazz Drummer Q-Tip of the Week

In this Jazz Drummer Q-Tip of the Week free drum lesson, I compare and contrast traditional vs modern comping for drums in a jazz context for jazz comping. Understanding the difference between traditional vs modern comping for drums is crucial for understanding how to best fit different playing situations we jazz drummers are put in that require jazz comping. From watching this free jazz drum lesson, you will understand better what traditional vs modern comping for drums is and be able to apply these approaches of jazz comping to different situations and scenarios as needed.
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ZILDJIAN CYMBALS
22" Dry Complex II Prototype
19" Avedis Crash/Ride
14" K Custom Special Dry Hi Hats
TAMA STARCLASSIC DRUMS
14X18 BD
16X14 FT
14X14 FT
8X12 TT
6.5X14 Snare Drum (Starphonic Copper)
VIC FIRTH STICKS
Quincy Davis Signature Stick
--Lesson Time Stamps--
00:00 - Traditional vs Modern Comping for Drums Intro
00:26 - Playing Intro
00:50 - Lesson Explanation
01:07 - What is Traditional Comping?
05:08 - Traits of Traditional Comping: Limb Independence, Strong Groove & Repetitious, Moderate Level of Interactiveness & Language
10:14 - Modern Comping Interlude
10:40 - Traits of Modern Comping: Limb Dependence, Groove is Implied & Not repetitive, Right Hand Freedom & Rhythmically Adventurous
16:56 - You don’t have to be an EITHER/OR drummer.
18:17 - Closing Remarks

[@danistheguy]

Man I just have to get this out. I graduated Berklee 2007. I recently discovered this channel and these videos are magnitudes of times more helpful than the majority of classes or lessons focused around jazz drumming that I took in school. Everything here is so well-explained and simply executed and *useful*. If you have even a passing foundation of jazz drumming like I (barely) do and many other drummers coming up playing mostly rock or funk, it feels like these are exactly the type of videos for you to instantly learn something that you can take back to the kit and improve on. Q, this is a wonderful channel man - it's unlocked my desire to return to jazz and try to get a little better. Thanks.

[@drumqtips]

I appreciate that Dan. Thanks for sharing and I totally understand your frustration. Glad you’re finding inspiration in my videos!

[@policeluber6720]

That’s why I went to UNT not Berkeley lol Berkeley accepts anyone!

[@torocruz1192]

Co-sign, every time I watch this channel I take something w me that transforms my playing. He is a maestro maestro ✌🏽👍🏽

[@joshuat4349]

@@policeluber6720UNT’s acceptance rate is 81% 💀 even Berklee’s ain’t that high.

[@hambogale1308]

I’m a death metal drummer but these past few months I’ve discovered jazz and fusion, and man, this is what I want to drum 24/7 now. Chick Corea, Herbie Hancock, Jean-Luc Ponty, I’ve fallen down the rabbit hole. I’m starting a jazz music school soon, and these videos are SO helpful in getting my jazz chops up to date. THANK YOU!

[@drumqtips]

I love this comment! Glad my lessons have been helpful to my man! Rock on🤘🏾

[@pretendhuman]

Bro, I believe funk and deathmetal perfectly compliment one another, same with classical... They are the sex of their respect genres!

[@nickhaldin8674]

“If you can’t do this, you have noooo business trying anything else”. 😂😂😂 so true! Great video, glad i stumbled upon your videos, they are great! You are very easy to listen to and watch 👍🏼

[@drumqtips]

Awesome to hear Nick! Thanks for watching:)

[@ddrumcorner4682]

The biggest takeaway for me: I REALLY appreciate when a great educator breaks down complex concepts to bite-sized fundamentals that have otherwise been deemed illusive or "mystical"! I especially like the part where you demystified the whole "chatter" vibe...It's a language, and so Jazz isn't based on rhythmic randomness. Thanks for this video Quincy.. this was VERY insightful and helpful. I'm going to get to shedding!

[@drumqtips]

I appreciate your extremely thoughtful comment. I definitely am striving to make what many feel are ambiguous concepts clear and fairly easy to understand. Thanks for watching as always my friend👊🏾

[@jphifer2848]

This is so true!!

[@bogbrushify]

Of course the best demonstration of independence is the fact that you're able to talk so fluently while playing!

[@drumqtips]

Not easy but I'm slowly getting better at it Ashley:)

[@HouseJawn]

Best jazz drumming channel

[@drumqtips]

Very kind of you🙏🏾

[@pedrod.7576]

I play piano and guitar but goddamn, uptempo jazz drumming is one of the coolest things in music.

[@tonybott5644]

Really great stuff, Quincy. In the 80s, my late great teacher from Chicago, Tony Caselli, constantly talked about comping as a language. Using the Ted Reed book, he would always have me keep time and sing the SD/BD parts for one line, then play it. This call and answer approach has stuck with me to this day, helping me to avoid the "chatter" habit of not communicating with others in the band. These days, I play gigs on both drums and piano (thanks to the same teacher that insisted I study jazz piano!), and my piano comping style comes directly from my drum comping.

[@drumqtips]

That’s awesome Toni! What a great teacher you had and an awesome application of Ted reads Syncopation book. Cheers!

[@bernardtressol3878]

Not being a native english speaker I do appreciate the clarity of your explanations and your flow, really easy to understand for foreign people. And also your humbleness and musicality.

[@drumqtips]

Glad my speaking and flow are easy for you to understand Bernard!

[@Isaiah54V7]

Being able to speak over these patterns is masterful! Love your playing bro

[@drumqtips]

I appreciate that!

[@steelydad5863]

Your insight into jazz drumming is unparalleled. You're also an amazing teacher. You also make me realize, even after playing off and on for 50 years,how much I have to learn! Keeping good time is hard enough alone!

[@JigsHidalgoMusic]

I love how your videos are more on teaching rather than flashy camera editing. Really shows the focus of your channel is to teach. The simplicity makes it very light to watch and easily understandable too!

[@drumqtips]

I appreciate that feedback and I'm glad you like my teaching style Jiggy:)

[@LeonardSmith-qv8do]

Im an old now retired Jazz and bigband drummer and its just great to see an apparent movement (all be it slowly) away from Rock drumming with its nothing much more than straight Quarter ,eighth and 16th note patterns, yes you young guys lets start to see that old "Swing" feel again ,I thought for decades it would never happen, two great books "Jim Chapin on coordinated independence" and Louie Bellson's " Modern Reading Text in 4/4" although there are three printing errors in that book of which I did mention to Mr.Bellson at one time but he didn't like me bringing his attention to it LOL, but still a great book.

[@michaelleville5766]

Love these lessons!

[@AboutTime_in]

beautiful lesson Q, just what I needed! thanks!

[@smokesreefer9417]

thank you for this vid.

[@andylongley6098]

When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.. thankQ Dr Q. You d'man. I learn and grow so much from your vids. I watched loads now.. and keep coming back to you.. owe you one fella.

[@jazzrrl]

Like your Drum instructional Videos.

[@toltekrecords]

I've seen some of your older videos, and I've started watching more and more of late. I enjoy you being yourself on the videos I've been watching lately. Been around for a minute, and I've been wondering where I fit into today's scene after laying out for a few years. My son's enrolled at The New School, and he gave me a few ideas which helped get me back up to speed. As the dad that's no longer cool (ha), I don't hear from him as much, and this video was very helpful. I can do a lot with this. I appreciate you, Brother...

[@drumqtips]

So happy this lesson helped you! And congrats to you for raising a kid who is attending The New School. Cool school!

[@NEALBABBITT]

Beautiful ride cymbal sound at feel!

[@issamlotfi101]

Thank you so much for your lessons

[@drumqtips]

You are very welcome Issam!

[@jimsaintamour2]

Awesome! Great lesson man thanks!

[@drumqtips]

Rock on...I mean jazz on Jimmy!

[@kevintconsidine]

Glad to find your channel today, great video.

[@drumqtips]

Welcome aboard Kev!

[@insanedrummer89]

Dude I needed this video for sure.

[@drumqtips]

It's yours Barret:)

[@mogollonsalcedo]

Great lesson, many thanks!

[@drumqtips]

My pleasure!

[@trevormcmanis]

Excellent! Thank you for sharing 🥁

[@drumqtips]

My pleasure Artie. Thanks for watching!

[@stevelangonedrumchannel272]

Great lesson as always, thank you

[@drumqtips]

My pleasure Steve!

[@GeraldoMueller]

Perfekt!!!! Thanks a lot!!!

[@drumqtips]

You are so welcome Geraldo!

[@cleitevieira]

Great, Quincy, as always!

[@drumqtips]

🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@8w029]

that drumkit 😋😍 Nice lesson!! Thanx

[@drumqtips]

My pleasure Lucas!

[@aadabimfmkad6041]

thnx again Quincy, another great lesson.

[@drumqtips]

I appreciate that Eamon! Glad you're enjoying my lessons.

[@musamusashi]

Great stuff man, just discovered your channel and really love it.

[@drumqtips]

Awesome, thank you!

[@rolandreid5854]

I really enjoyed this! Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

[@drumqtips]

Glad you enjoyed it Roland!

[@markwalkerdrums]

Another fantastic and useful lesson!

[@drumqtips]

My man! Thank you🙏🏾

[@awaken8888]

Brilliant breakdown!

[@drumqtips]

Thanks!

[@howardk4016]

Just awesome. I really enjoy your teaching style and content Q!

[@drumqtips]

Thanks so much Howard!

[@tridentbarbellclub4062]

Man oh man, you're a great teacher and fantastic drummer! Thanks so much for your videos!

[@simonnathan2065]

Such a great lesson. Thank you Q!

[@drumqtips]

Glad you enjoyed the lesson!

[@richardirish2099]

Awesome video. Beyond informative

[@drumqtips]

I really appreciate that Ricky:)

[@neilscott5696]

Another great lesson. Thank you. Everything sounds great, but I especially love those sticks on that ride with your wonderful playing.

[@drumqtips]

I appreciate that Neal!

[@dibach70]

Terrific lesson, so much to think about and work on, thank you sir!

[@drumqtips]

Glad it was helpful!

[@groovebag61]

You Sound Great!

[@thesteviesoloseries3598]

Wonderful lesson and playing 🙏

[@drumqtips]

Glad you liked it Stevie!

[@ghiblinerd6196]

Beautiful explanations

[@diegoelizarraras4845]

Great source of knowledge 🙏

[@drumqtips]

Thanks Diego. Glad you’re enjoying the lessons.

[@lucamantoani8624]

Wonderful lesson... As usual 🤗

[@drumqtips]

I appreciate that very much Luca!

[@allegro_manontroppo]

Great lesson, thank you so much Sir!

[@drumqtips]

My pleasure!

[@Craigo-xg5mc]

Very interesting breakdown!

[@drumqtips]

Glad you think so! Thanks for watching.

[@kevinjones8624]

Great videos Q!!!

[@drumqtips]

Thanks Kev!

[@SawItAgaaain]

Soooo good. Really appreciate the time stamp for quick reference and the way you structure the phases of transition. Thank you!

[@drumqtips]

Thanks so much Josh! I’m glad the time stamp is helpful cause it’s really tedious to add. Lol! See you on the next one!

[@reynaldoelbat494]

Gracias!

[@markielinhart]

Brilliant lesson‼️it’s gonna be such a help with my progress, thank you MrQ✌️🌻

[@markscountlessbarks]

Great vid Q!

[@drumqtips]

Glad you enjoyed it Mark!

[@beeamos5903]

Awesome man, great stuff! Youre a great great player, great teacher, and I love your setup to speak while playing, very helpful and efficient!

[@drumqtips]

Thanks a ton Bee!

[@AllenLind]

Thanks for keeping the jazz alive man!!!

[@drumqtips]

My pleasure Allen! Jazz is America:)

[@camiloesteban6110]

I just loved the way you explain the music, thanks a lot!

[@drumqtips]

I really appreciate that Camilo!

[@bobweber4140]

Bro you da man great lesson love the way you teach thankyou thankyou

[@drumqtips]

I appreciate that Bob!

[@Thedrummersalmanac]

Great Lesson, Quincy!

[@drumqtips]

Glad you liked it!

[@purostarros]

Endless thanks for your great data and instruction for jazz language , I’m very grateful of you

[@drumqtips]

My pleasure!

[@stewarda]

Very nicely done. Well explained and executed.

[@drumqtips]

Glad you liked it. Cheers!

[@paulboisvert3215]

Thank you so much for this. I just subscribed to you. I really appreciate this lesson so much.

[@drumqtips]

Thanks Paul!

[@zackjonas2952]

Beautiful !

[@drumqtips]

Thank you!

[@alexandremainville5139]

Great video, thank you !! It was very interesting and useful !!

[@drumqtips]

Glad you liked it Alexandre!

[@Martin-xp1xi]

I am coming back to this after a year of studying jazz. This is so usefull, you clearly stated the path to approach the modern style. Amazing as always Q

[@drumqtips]

Glad it was helpful!

[@mikegoff3501]

As always a really great lesson

[@drumqtips]

Thanks a lot Mike

[@billbrandt1106]

Another great lesson from a great jazz drummer.

[@drumqtips]

I appreciate that Bill!

[@joannblondin8980]

Thank you Q I just bought some lessons from your website I love your teaching

[@user-kb4pl4gg7j]

I enjoy your videos and help me a lot! Thanks from Japan.

[@drumqtips]

I’m very happy to hear that！ いつも見てくれてありがとうございます🙏🏾

[@warrenstrong4618]

Great lesson

[@drumqtips]

Thanks for watching Warren!

[@MADROCKS221]

Brilliantly articulated lesson, thank you so much - I can’t wait to practise.

[@drumqtips]

Thanks for watching!

[@mikeanscombe9883]

Thank you, again, for sharing your wisdom, Quincy…what I love about your posts is that you constantly emphasise the importance of serving and respecting the music above all else… Keep on keepin’ on!

[@drumqtips]

It's alllll about the music. I appreciate that Mike!

[@TheZammySam]

Thank you for a very good lesson!

[@drumqtips]

Thank you for watching!

[@eddielayman3465]

Great info!!

[@drumqtips]

Glad it was helpful Eddie!

[@drakeondrums]

Thanks for the lesson!

[@drumqtips]

My pleasure!

[@robertomagalhaes3235]

Quincy’s ability and clarity to expose ideas and concepts is remarkable! Always a valuable and interesting lesson, All the best!

[@drumqtips]

I appreciate your kind words Roberto!

[@Jazzrob891]

Great Lesson! In my collaborations I have noticed that pianists love modern comping, often some they ask for time dilation to make it more relaxed and less pulsating at the beginning of the solo.. But traditional comping is always the basis for any soloist!

[@drumqtips]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts Roberto, and thanks for watching Roberto!

[@ilarik4757]

Amazing lesson once again! It's a joy to hear your flow on the drums, but also the way you tell things is very interesting to listen to! Great technique, and great sound. Lovely stuff, as always. Best regards from Finland!

[@drumqtips]

I really appreciate that Ilari!

[@synthetic_paul]

Very beautiful ride sound.

[@drumqtips]

Glad you like it Paulie!

[@xcy0n]

Superb lesson, learned more than ever about comping just b4 sleep. Thank you.

[@drumqtips]

Love to hear that!

[@donkotouc8377]

Great tutorial; very practical, and Q’s teaching style is very natural and unpretentious...

[@JanSrensen77]

I've just discovered your channel tonight, and I must say it's a goldmine of knowledge and musicality. I love how you explain WHY you do certain things, instead of just showing off some cool stickings. For this particular lesson, I think the terms INDEPENDENCE vs INTERDEPENDENCE might apply. I think I might have gotten that from John Riley in the book "The art of bob drumming" - but I'm not sure. I don't know if this has already been mentioned.

[@bcdrummer1962]

Yeah man I need to get on my comping even more ✌️🎶digging your lessons Mr.D‼️

[@drumqtips]

Glad you’re enjoying the lessons! Thanks for your words.

[@brandonthedrummer7226]

Love you added the mic! Can hear u much better..thx again 4 these videos..super helpful!

[@drumqtips]

Yeah, the mic is making a big difference in my overall flow. Thanks for the feedback Brandon. Cheers!

[@elwoodwhite7708]

Thanks again Q bad phones computers lately been away great class will follow glad to see your still at it great playing comping ! knowledgeable

[@drumqtips]

Good to see you again El! Thanks for the support my friend.

[@DonaldSturgeAnthonyMcKenzieII]

Love your lessons, Brother

[@drumqtips]

I appreciate that Donald!

[@joetumolo7550]

Mr. Davis thank you so much you are such an incredible teacher the way you are describing the concepts showing them and then presenting ways to expand on them it’s just brilliant What was particularly helpful was having you reinforce what you’re playing vocally incredibly well done thank you for sharing your gift and your time you’re a great player teacher and you seem like a really great person

[@drumqtips]

You're very welcome Joe!

[@brianbrooks6349]

Hi Quincy Brian up here in Canada i really like when you mentioned singing or humming the groove and trying to comp that way sort of tap dancing the left hand been trying to work on it

[@smagherini]

Haven’t finished watching yet but I love this lesson and I just want to thank you

[@drumqtips]

I appreciate that very much sir!

[@rytco5]

I should say, so CLEARLY AND GENEROUSLY!!!

[@kevindeedavis]

Why am I just now finding this channel?! Such great content!!!

[@drumqtips]

You gotta work on your timing. LOL!! I'm kidding. Welcome aboard Kev!

[@cymbaljunkie]

Lovely playing Quincy. So many jazz drummers I meet focus all their attention on comping without really getting the underpinning feel, and more importantly energy into the ride and the rest of the kit happening. For example, I could listen to what you do for just 30 seconds at say 1:00, or at 11:00 for hours! Because it means something. It's this that makes everything else you are showing golden. Lovely!

[@jeffreywegener8841]

Excellent. Thanks so much . I love “ it’s not either or “ . And how you frame that in terms of needing independence.

[@drumqtips]

Thanks for watching Jeff!

[@veronicahardemandrums]

Great Lesson on traditional vs modern coping.

[@drumqtips]

Thanks Veronica!

[@Drummerman02]

Such a great teacher!

[@drumqtips]

That's very kind of you! Thank you.

[@anikaho7084]

I allways learn something new when I watch your lessons! Thank you from Germany!

[@drumqtips]

So happy to hear that Anika:) Cheers to you and one of my fav countries, Deutschland❤️

[@lauramcflymusica]

Thanks a lot for your lessons. They are awesome. I think I owe you money

[@drumqtips]

You don’t owe me any money, you just owe me you’re swang César :-)

[@AlexMPruteanu]

Quincy, as usual this lesson is priceless! I FINALLY understand the modern jazz comping, thanks to you. I am hearing the doubling up on the ride, etc. Thank you for your continued commitment to teaching us. One thing I've been doing the last year or so is: I've been messin' round and having fun w/my left foot (hi-hat foot). Aside from keeping time on the 2 and 4 w/the hats, I also switch it up and hit 2 and 3, or 2, 3, and 4. Sometimes I'll clap it wide open for 2 or 3 beats or even a measure, to add that little bit of spice. I know traditionally we keep it on the 2 and 4, but I"ve just been having fun using it on other beats. It doesn't seem to throw off anyone else in the band and I keep it even more fun than it already is to play jazz. There is a type of shuffle where the hats are incorporated and play a vital role in that particular shuffle (maybe Texas? No...another type, I can't think of it.). Jimmy Smith's drummer does it on Back at the Chicken Shack. Let me go try to find it....Yea, here it is. I love how he uses the hats in the shuffle: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaawlWuimbGkrtE

[@donaldschomer6616]

All I can say about this is, WOW! Thanks for posting this great lesson.

[@drumqtips]

Thanks for watching Don!

[@tommyron]

I like what you say about using both approaches in one song. It seems like it would be a great device for getting the form across with some subtle variety. Thanks for another fine video!

[@drumqtips]

Absolutely, my pleasure Tom!

[@rytco5]

Really great to hear someone who deeply understands what they're talking about, articulate it so generously. Thank you!

[@drumqtips]

I appreciate that!