Is Kingdoms Forlorn Better or Worse than Kingdom Death Monster?

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@sasquatchQC
@sasquatchQC 2 жыл бұрын
Quack! (We reached 1K likes)
@Quackalope
@Quackalope 2 жыл бұрын
Yep! Working out how to do the giveaway - if I can get on TTS with the team we will do it then!
@sasquatchQC
@sasquatchQC 2 жыл бұрын
@@Quackalope I hate to poke the duck (bear), but has the giveaway winner been revealed yet? I can't seem to find it in this comment section or on Discord
@wileynader116
@wileynader116 2 жыл бұрын
Guess no giveaway?? Like 3 weeks. No mention. No new gameplay. Like did i miss something?
@marcinysikowski2330
@marcinysikowski2330 2 жыл бұрын
@@Quackalope Any news about the gameplay? Quack!
@dalkontech90
@dalkontech90 2 жыл бұрын
Like The White Lion in KDM, a Black Lion or a Black Wolf, its a Easter Egg but i think its cool
@guestimator
@guestimator 2 жыл бұрын
I've loved Tainted Grail's story so much, that I'll back any game that can provide such moments!
@cyder534
@cyder534 2 жыл бұрын
The story is definitely its strength!
@cyder534
@cyder534 2 жыл бұрын
major*
@jasonv8516
@jasonv8516 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Since there is an Egg Knight, there should be a Rooster Knight built like Arnold, LOL. I think this game looks amazing and this is one I pledge as well.
@josephmollath4320
@josephmollath4320 2 жыл бұрын
I would always love a large dragon style monster but I always wanted a dragon knight that is akin to legend of dragoon style model
@billyyoung5707
@billyyoung5707 2 жыл бұрын
The Rock Star! A giant Rock Being who deafens foes with his awesome air guitar skills!
@sebabarre
@sebabarre 2 жыл бұрын
I would absolutely love a horrific Pumpkin Knight.
@4469luis
@4469luis 2 жыл бұрын
What about an aquatic knight, maybe a kind of mermaid, some tentacles and a shark face.
@johnpanagos5835
@johnpanagos5835 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see in Kingdoms Forlorn a cheshire cat boss. Small, fast and with puzzles in between. Quack!
@drone9
@drone9 2 жыл бұрын
So you are saying I shouldn't sell off my KDM collection yet? ;) Thank you for the comparison! Very helpful. My suggestion for monster of the week: the wailing needle maid. I imagine here a bit akin to the witch in Left4dead.
@SomeGuy-yknow
@SomeGuy-yknow 2 жыл бұрын
I wana see a bunch of garlic clove assassins and onion knights
@thorstenschleer8593
@thorstenschleer8593 2 жыл бұрын
First things first - My Abomination suggestion: The Squire of Dead Knights. A small boyish creature dragging the dead bodies and armor of fallen Knights behind him (with chains and ropes). In a fight he uses them as "Puppet"-Knights skillfully performing ritualistic Squire duties to them before battle. Second: I'm not totally sure what to think about this video. Comparing with an prototype is very harsh and I personally think you didn't do your best job with this comparison. Comparing a prototype you played once or trice to a game you probzbly played the heck out of is even harsher. Saying "It's your fault to sent us a prototype that isn't a finished product at all" sounds more than a bit unfair. I'm not going to back Kingdoms Forlorn (at least if I'm not winning this giveaway 😉), because of the steep price and the campaign organisation. I think it's good to compare it with KDM, but I think there's a difference between comparing and rating (hope that's understandable). So long. Quak! 😉 wishing you a great day
@Rundeish
@Rundeish 2 жыл бұрын
Good effort on the video. But I don’t like the critique of “tracking”, if someone new got dropped into LY25 in KDM they’d have a headache trying to track effects, combos, stats etc. I’m just mentioning it because I feel like you guys are being a bit harsh in comparing a prototype (such an early one at that) with a full blown game with multiple versions of balancing etc. Like it’s a stretch to critique lack of attachment to characters in a one off prototype with a fully fledged campaign
@Nadgers
@Nadgers 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a Red Skull Lobster who gives you advice like "Clean your room" and "Tell the truth". +Points for anyone who gets the reference!
@VakuAdikaia
@VakuAdikaia 2 жыл бұрын
This game needs a giant wolf. Maybe one holding a weapon? No! One suited in armor! Yeah. Why not make it partially decayed too? Just for good measure.
@Fenraellis
@Fenraellis 2 жыл бұрын
As a curiosity, how does the critique of the battles escalating too quickly, and both enemies and allies dying quickly, get adjusted in light of the notable misplay when it came to misuse of the armor die (and overflow die mechanic) for dealing wounds, and for avoiding damage. Well, and unfortunately ignoring all Mortis cards aside from the Judicium cards when getting Humpty Charged. While it certainly made for a faster video, correcting either of those would have made both the enemies and allies last longer, and also greater exemplify the "hard co-op" aspect of the intended game play. For what it's worth, I see a lot of valid critiques, and if the game play elements were not made sufficiently clear, then I agree that onus lies of the developers, and providing a prototype which garners an appropriate response to what is included therein. It's a shame you haven't tried Aeon Trespass: Odyssey on Tabletop Simulator, though, even if I understand why you might not have done so. While there are some differences (refreshing Heat, and the hand of cards in particular), the general combat mechanics are roughly similar enough, I think it would have provided an excellent framework with which to understand the rules for Kingdoms Forlorn. It probably would have saved many hours of the confusion you expressed in interpreting the rules, as well. Almost certainly more than the time would have been saved than it would have taken to play a battle or two against a Primordial. I do agree with your sentiment that Kingdoms Forlorn will likely be a more enjoyable experience with a larger play group than some other campaign games might be with their often more interchangeably generic characters. Aeon Trespass: Odyssey, for example, is about the journey of the Argo, and it's crew. Which will have their own personal bonuses they accrue, but not personal stories in remotely the same vein as Kingdoms Forlorn. The very unique aspects of the individual characters in Kingdoms Forlorn will naturally lend themselves to an increased investment of the players in their particular characters and the game in general. Particularly for people that might enjoy the dramatization and pseudo-roleplay aspect of it all. It's also easier to have a more interesting interplay of occasionally conflicting goals when controlled by different players. It will certainly be interesting to see how they intend to scale the game for 1 to 4 players, and how that will interact with the Delve and Clash phases.
@Quackalope
@Quackalope 2 жыл бұрын
I think it adds to the Co-op value while not changing my opinion of the fights and how they will / should escalate in the final game. KDM still does the long boss battles and core AI better - this does interesting Co-op, Storytelling, and allows you to fight multiple battles in a single session. Look at the Power track - every time we attack we go up a total of 6 levels. If you survive to 4-6 you are either about to die or doing damage with each hit. We were off by a few steps and that made us off by a few rounds of activation each - not by a full 60min cycle or more. I am looking forward to this game and to AT:O - with the caveat that this prototype and the way it was shared did absolutely make the process hard. AT:O back in the day had the same issue according to the reviewers who cover it - they are both ambitious and massive projects!
@Quackalope
@Quackalope 2 жыл бұрын
Our experience was shorter than it should have been. But even playing with the correct rules, the overall experience would still be shorter than a normal KDM session. KF has 5-8 full activations vs. upwards of 15-20 in KDM.
@derhalbstarke490
@derhalbstarke490 2 жыл бұрын
Würstelwurm would be a funny enemy (inspired by dungeon degenerats ;))
@califax512
@califax512 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a KDM-referenced monster! Someone who will delay the heroes to death from old age
@klaus1805
@klaus1805 2 жыл бұрын
Easy, Baconsquire to go with the mighty Eggknight
@hechuan5075
@hechuan5075 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the onion knight from dark souls haha
@davidautinify
@davidautinify 2 жыл бұрын
regarding the enemy AI deck fiddliness: is there any way to have all the levels of an AI action on the same card? so, for example, say an enemy has Headbutt. you wound him, so you have to upgrade Headbutt to its level 2 version. can the level 2 stats be printed on the baseline card to reduce fiddliness? (i suppose this is a suggestion for Into The Unknown more than a question for quackalopes. :p )
@BoardGameCo
@BoardGameCo 2 жыл бұрын
This is the idea I had that I would love to see....would keep the system but remove fiddliness.
@kongo621
@kongo621 2 жыл бұрын
What about a shroomknight? A knight with mushrooms growing on it that can spore off and creat more little enemies or that could infect the player and partially take control of movements or attacks.
@firechickenreviews
@firechickenreviews 2 жыл бұрын
Kingdom Forlorn Base Pledge Giveaway Entry Idea (Liking was already done when I clicked o the video, been subscribed for a long time love the channel): Fire Chicken Knight Lore: Sir Cinimod Fawkes was once known as the most handsome knight in the realm and...his odd adoration of chickens. It is said his looks attracted the attention of a maiden who simply admired the handsomeness of the knight for too long in her spouses eyes. Sir Fawkes was quickly punish for an innocent crime he did not commit. His punishment? his flock of chickens where slaughtered and his looks would be forever removed... He was Tarred and Feathered with the still blood soaked feathers of his own chickens. Not wanting to bare going on with life Sir Fawkes tried to end it by burning himself grabbing one of the torches from the guards who where using it to put the burning Tar on him during the public humiliation. It is said the crowd saw the man turn into a human Phoenix burning with fire with feathers and all...but it quickly turned into laughter and death was not going to be here for Sir Fawkes. Some within the crowd threw various things at the knight to dowse the flames.....He was forever known hence afterwards as the Fire Chicken Knight a vengeful knight who did not bother to hide his dis-figuration and openly showed what his body had transformed into.
@Quackalope
@Quackalope 2 жыл бұрын
Haha I love this! That is awesome :)
@joshuamarcus5810
@joshuamarcus5810 2 жыл бұрын
Quack! I would want to see a Jackalope Gunslinger, but a Quackalope one would be good too! ;-)
@Quackalope
@Quackalope 2 жыл бұрын
XD right - I wish!
@bendikvedeler3297
@bendikvedeler3297 2 жыл бұрын
A dagger-wielding land-octopus with 8 tiny shitty attacks per turn.
@Quackalope
@Quackalope 2 жыл бұрын
Each tentacle could be another hit location
@opman4827
@opman4827 2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does it seem light on content for 150$? Either way it looks awesome. And I love swampy characters, so maybe a mass of vines and rats.
@Rundeish
@Rundeish 2 жыл бұрын
Having played it on TTS, it's definitely not light. And the value proposition has risen exponentially in the campaign, worth a check again.
@lelandl7895
@lelandl7895 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this comparison review, despite it being a prototype. Will be interested to see how their campaign progresses, and considering what they have done w ATO, I’m still excited. My vote of a villain or a support companion? They need some duck representation! A quack advisor or duck helm 😆
@Quackalope
@Quackalope 2 жыл бұрын
Haha a duck advisor seems needed XD
@Alanis4life
@Alanis4life 2 жыл бұрын
Pizza the Hut boss monster! I hope they'll listen to me.
@Quackalope
@Quackalope 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely XD
@FemmeSensei
@FemmeSensei 2 жыл бұрын
On a side note...there was once a giveaway for a Marvel Zombies thing...I presume I didn't win? I went to all your videos I could find and never detected another reference to it :). Maybe the video didn't get enough likes? Come on people...thumb up this video!
@Quackalope
@Quackalope 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! We did just as we said :) gave it away in the very next Zombicide coverage!
@FemmeSensei
@FemmeSensei 2 жыл бұрын
@@Quackalope Well...I'll look again for it...now if only I can figure out how the heck to get KZbin to show the videos in the right order :). Thanks again for your coverage guys.
@Kiratze
@Kiratze 2 жыл бұрын
A monster that is actually a more deformed version of one/all of the Knight with their own twisted take on their abilities I think would be great! Sort of like Shadow Link from Ocarina of Time haha.
@Faifaigor
@Faifaigor 2 жыл бұрын
I will suggest a Giant duck 🦆 which will throw boardgamessss to players as frequent as its tummy's storage. Thanks you two to have so many contents for our boardgame lovers
@FoodiesWhoGame
@FoodiesWhoGame 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a Medusa-like creature!
@DivvyDivvyDivvyDivvy
@DivvyDivvyDivvyDivvy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for giving an honest opinion of the prototype. This looks like it has a lot of promise, but still needs a lot of work. Here is hoping that they put out a demo of an earlier encounter instead of jumping in "mid campaign" with lots of extra rules. My vote is for a moth creature!
@Quackalope
@Quackalope 2 жыл бұрын
A moth creature sounds very cool! I am looking forward to seeing what they can do with this game. I think it has potential.
@herr_der_spiele
@herr_der_spiele 2 жыл бұрын
I always like tree monsters... like ents, huorns or the treemen in bloodbowl. You can make awesome miniatures and also i can imagine a great AI deck as well as cool BP cards. So plz give us treemen!!!
@vinnieyang5422
@vinnieyang5422 2 жыл бұрын
A Porcine Knight to work in tandem with the Egg Knight would be a very thematic combo!
2 жыл бұрын
1. Done; 2. The neurotics gamers e.g. the annoying boardgamer, the paralitic analyser boardgamer, the lazy boardgamer, impatient, etc.; 3. I'm already a subscriber.
@anthonygiovinazzo
@anthonygiovinazzo 2 жыл бұрын
Kingdoms Forlorn absolutely needs a Quacknight. I'm picturing a grotesquely tall, slender knight with a lifeless quackalope head.
@chancebaker6042
@chancebaker6042 2 жыл бұрын
People would buy this because it is cool and KDM IS ABSOLUTELY STUPID EXPENSIVE!!!!!
@WhereTheSkyRuns
@WhereTheSkyRuns 2 жыл бұрын
The abomination that MUST be introduced is the truly terrifying... after dark denizen of dread... the Late-Knight-Kebab-a-Grabber. Thanks guys!
@Ropya
@Ropya 2 жыл бұрын
Shots fired. Lol. This being delivered before wave 4 of KDM. I'm a huge Poots fan... And you're likely not wrong. I have enough of a backlog that KDM delays don't bother me... Past being concerned Poots and crew will run out of funding. All that said, thanks for this comparison.
@negativehp
@negativehp 2 жыл бұрын
I backed Aeon Trespass: Odyssey specifically because I thought I would never get my hands on Kingdom Death: Monster. However, I finally got it! I'm intrigued by Kingdoms Forlorn, so I backed for 1 dollar to see how the campaign progresses. That said, I've liked the video, I'm subscribed, and a monster I'd like to see in Kingdoms Forlorn is a mimic that looks like the Gambler's Chest, but when people try to grab it, the box-lid flips open and sprays unpainted miniatures into their face.
@Fenraellis
@Fenraellis 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, and as a bit of compensation for my critique on this video and the other, enjoy a duck-hydra (or duck-Ghidorah?) in Kingdoms Forlorn, from the Kingdoms Forlorn miniature showcase video on Into the Unknown Studio's KZbin channel today: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJqtnYOFe9h_qas (from about 2:18 to 2:29 in that video) ...I'm not sure if that counts as a creature idea, though, even if it might also be hard to top, hmm... Obviously a duck-themed knight or demon of some sort? Ducks are already practically eldritch abominations once you get down to it. It wouldn't even be much of a stretch. Alternately, with a limited knowledge of the alternate kingdoms, how about a mob fight with violent Fruit Demons or Pixies, Attack of the Killer Tomatoes style. From the Barony of Bountiful Harvest, where plants are coming to life, such as the animated pumpkin demon creature thing in their news update.
@sidneyleejohnson
@sidneyleejohnson Жыл бұрын
The Black Knight getting stronger with each "Flesh Wound" is just something I am having trouble getting my head wrapped around. Same for ATO. Does KF also have the "You're Dead" cards that ATO has?
@patrickfawcett637
@patrickfawcett637 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the directness and honesty of this video. Shira’s take really stuck with me. As a KDM devotee, as well as the owner of countless campaign games, this was what i needed to conquer my FOMO and cancel my pledge. It might be a great game, but I have plenty of unplayed games/expansions that will fill the void. And if I’m wrong? I’m only a few hours from Cleveland :)
@cinemancer5963
@cinemancer5963 2 жыл бұрын
Love to see a Kingdomslayer (and/or Kingslayer, Princepouncer, Baronbasher, Lordlasher, Dukedumper).
@villain-3961
@villain-3961 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so excited for this game. My hopes are irresponsibly high. So this game gives me Final Fantasy vibes. FF7 is the G.O.A.T. of the series, so I would like a Marsh Snake-esque creature. Something that can disappear off the board and ambush. Maybe a shadow serpent?
@Psycho_Saix
@Psycho_Saix 2 жыл бұрын
Chicken Parmigiana Calvalry, would be interesting. Chicken as the horses with slightly melting cheese wedge as the riders. This sounds awesome. Will look more into this project. Thanks for covering this and pushing forward with the Dev on improvements. Love your passion.
@adam551982
@adam551982 Жыл бұрын
Because of you, Bra Mithra I've really gotten in to boss battlers. I all in pledged to all 3 games. Can't wait for ATO to be delivererd along with Kingdoms Forlorn. It's going to be stupid epic!
@atillakonuk2496
@atillakonuk2496 2 жыл бұрын
Lol imagine a cracked knight that comes later in campaign. Egg knight has been de-shelled, but the shell was a seal holding the cursed demon/abomination/Cthulhu whatever inside. Now its released it is SO MUCH MORE POWERFUL
@richardgarrett3188
@richardgarrett3188 2 жыл бұрын
Black Lagoon Knight. I have a hard time hitting the button to back this game because they are already over a year behind on their previous Kickstarter, Aeon Trespass: Odyssey. How do I know that they didn't burn through their cash for that one and using this Kickstarter to finish funding the previous? Or that continued development and support of that game won't delay this one? I'd love to win a copy but other than that, I will probably wait for retail to purchase it in late 2025. ;)
@sidneyleejohnson
@sidneyleejohnson Жыл бұрын
If KF was seen as an improved succesor to ATO, and ATO seems to be a street hit, then it seems natural to think KF would be seen more positively but along with Alex's 2 rating, a less than stellar response by King of Average and yourselves it is a bit weird for them to have jumped into this campaign before they hit the street with ATOs fullfiment and gauged the audience response to what they liked about ATO and what they didn't.
@Creepo11
@Creepo11 2 жыл бұрын
For something inspired by medieval folklore and fantasy, I see an alarming lack of excrement, to remedy this I'd like to see something for example inspired by the Bonnacon: "It runs away, while releasing a trail of dung that can cover three furlongs. Contact with the dung burns pursuers as though they had touched fire.”
@flyingfazza
@flyingfazza 2 жыл бұрын
The game looks interesting. The abomination, is obscure one, but the 'The Thing Upstairs ' from the trap door. A random 5minute show back in the early 90's. Thanks again for the video.
@kroshak3126
@kroshak3126 2 жыл бұрын
(stereotypical) As a german i would love to see an oversized Elwetrisch Monster (local mythical Animal around the Rhineland en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elwetritsch) Its supposed to be a Chickenlike Bird, but with Antlers and scales instead of feathers^^
@marcwondergem
@marcwondergem 2 жыл бұрын
Since the Eggknight character seems to be based on the fairy tale character Humpty Dumpty a character based on The Big Bad Wolf from fairy tales would be nice.
@JohnnyMcNabb63
@JohnnyMcNabb63 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to win the game. I’m afraid to back because the game looks like it needed a few more months before being reviewed or going on Kickstarter. I think it’s going to hurt the campaign. Also it’s very expensive. New characters.. hmmm.. something with a pug !
@gaelrebmann9629
@gaelrebmann9629 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe a Tree-like abomination could be fun? It would be beneficial to the players on daytime (like green plants breathing oxygen out) and dangerous during nights (green plants releasing CO2 at night). Given the grim universe of the game, it could be the other way around: the Tree-creature breaths poison out on daytime and absorbs poison at night
@FemmeSensei
@FemmeSensei 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if this is in the spirit of your request in the beginning...but what about Jabberwocky Offspring? There are just not enough Baby Jabberwocky-kins out in the world :).
@gordonpolston4555
@gordonpolston4555 2 жыл бұрын
A Goblin King from a Labyrinth Kingdom who doesn’t attack the Knights directly, but manipulates the board terrain to trap the Knights. There are also objects of value for each Knight that provides an item to draw their focus away from attacking the Goblin King. Will the Knights retrieve their object of value and defeat the Goblin King or have to later venture to the Labyrinth Kingdom?
@Inarode
@Inarode 2 жыл бұрын
It's going to be interesting to see how this gets polished up out of the prototype stage. --- This might sound bland, but I can never get enough of environmental adversaries. Gimmie man eating trees, strangle vines and bushes that'll swallow you whole. So I'd like to see some poor farmer's abandoned field you have to cross, and the overgrown zucchini plant writhes up to tangle your legs to drag you down. It's fruit can be either lobbed at you or lay in wait like landmines. Any open flowers can release a stat-ailment or toxic pollen, either into the air or by physical contact. And the only way to kill it is to reach the center where the main vine comes out of the ground and hack it off at the base. Hopefully it doesn't regrow >:)
@akubits6335
@akubits6335 2 жыл бұрын
The game gives me Dark Souls/Blasphemous vibes. I really hope they make the story really good, I see people talking about Tainted Grail which I really loved. I'd probably love to see some abomination of a knight that's been twisted by sinister magic or something like that, maybe with bits and pieces of a castle and other knights just absorbed into his body or something like that.
@JohnHoliver
@JohnHoliver 2 жыл бұрын
I'd create a Golden plated Duck Knight. Must be fully covered in gold armor. In fact, this partivular duck lost a leg and have a gold armor replacement. ._.
@armiesofmordor
@armiesofmordor 2 жыл бұрын
crazy comment check, watch vide check, like video check, quack! check, asparagus lancers???
@lNeonLightzl
@lNeonLightzl 2 жыл бұрын
I never really gave KDM a chance, due to it being a difficult game for me to find… I love the grittiness of it, very reminiscent of Dark Souls. I would add a monster that has a mechanic where it duplicates if it’s not defeated fast enough (Maybe some sort of hydra snakelike creature). I have always liked timed bosses and such that put the pressure on the hero to think quickly about how to survive.
@johnnash5318
@johnnash5318 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see some mechanoid, should be terrifying and silly at the same time. Let's call him Clockwork Knight. A human and a clock hybrid, powered by springs and gears, clockpunk warrior able to control the time and create powerfully attacks with his brass gearshaped halabardy, squirting gear oil at you to disarm you and make you fall on a ground.
@nwillett2884
@nwillett2884 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. Just getting into KDM and still waiting for ATO. For inclusion recommendation: how about a selkie? I don’t think I’ve seen and seal folk in any other game.
@elizabethlestrad5282
@elizabethlestrad5282 2 жыл бұрын
I ended up stearing clear of KDM because of the repetitiveness no matter what walkthrough Inwatched, no matter what year they were on, it was a bunch of paty members fighting the same lion over...and over...and over. Coming from a game that had hundreds of minis, that was an immediate turn off. That said. I'm pretty interested in this from the story aspect. The biggest reason I have e backed it yet is trying to pin down the difficulty level and how far soulsy (designed to make the players fail) the game is. Challenge is fun, less so when it starts turning people away till your trying to do it alone.
@drette5322
@drette5322 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like the AI deck would benefit from having multiple level of attacks (per number of wounds) on the cards instead of having the fiddliness of taking off cards and putting some in. For the monster I'd like to see in, I really like fungus monster, so a Mushroom Pig would be great.
@wraje
@wraje 2 жыл бұрын
A mimic, but instead of a chest it mimics a baby. You're walking through a dungeon and hear crying. You follow it and "Oh my God! There's an abandoned child here!" You pick it up and then a scene out of The Thing takes place. *shudder*
@michaelglinka7336
@michaelglinka7336 2 жыл бұрын
WIth games like Gloomhaven and KDM, which easily could fill a lifetime of playing board games to fully explore their contents, but requiring mostly same group of people to play with, it's always nice to see games with accessibility in mind to offset time commitment some of those great games require. Interesting thing is that, while usually in a circle of friends you want only one person to own given game, this one tries to encourage having multiple copies, thanks to the ability to move characters between campaigns. One thing that comes to mind with a new monster is some kind of chimera, with wolf's (or duck :D) torso and head, but with stitched, different looking human parts. Maybe one leg is shorter, maybe one arm is skinny because it holds a rapier, while second one is a muscular one to grab a big shield. They hunt other people not only for food, but to strengthen themselves. There are tons of possibilities here. What I really like about this game, from what I've heard is this atmosphere of grim and hidden secrets. Plot twists and history related to every aspect of the game and how you can't take things for granted. Those monsters could also have some nice twists, like: The first thing that comes to mind is that there is a mastermind behind them, some necromantic surgeon, which changes animals into those chimeras. But players instead of a boss find that they are animals envious of people, who are doing this to themselves in some desperate efforts to be like humans. Seems like it could fit :)
@damiracle5767
@damiracle5767 2 жыл бұрын
I keep just thinking of Dark Souls type characters like the Siegmeyer for fun characters. Thanks for the comparison! Very intrigued
@mathewallen6431
@mathewallen6431 2 жыл бұрын
Looks interesting! A food based opponent? It's gotta be the Creme Brute-Lee! A hideous viscous mass held together by jagged crystallised sugar armour!
@icalculi
@icalculi 2 жыл бұрын
What type of weird abomination would you introduce to the kingdom's forlorn environment? Answer: A fallen grotesque archangel
@JRimala
@JRimala 2 жыл бұрын
In the full pitch video they showcase a weird caped and crawling elk-skull weirdo. I’m usually not that big into minis, but this guy really had me intrigued! Soooo…more weird elk-skull weirdos please! 😄
@michalnoga8460
@michalnoga8460 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You both for your open criticism. I think it is good way how to communicate to developers during developing the game. All of us will profit from this it is going tobe BETTER game.
@stAzkrunchyinmilk
@stAzkrunchyinmilk 2 жыл бұрын
Some sort of creature with a “soul sucking” ability that makes the characters weaker the longer the fight goes until it kills them. No defenses against the affect. Could be some sort of horrific monster, but would also work as a spirit looking like a small group of child but with like a ghoulishly over large smiles. Maybe called something like Sluagh na marbh ('host of the dead' in Gaelic)
@BayushiTawa
@BayushiTawa 2 жыл бұрын
Weird creature... I guess a pickle-enemy does not count... so... what about a Giant leaping frog with mucus-like secretaions which uses to encircle the target and surround in a mist of toxic fumes??
@Tarzney
@Tarzney 2 жыл бұрын
I'd create a Man Baby. Head of a man body of a baby. But they travel in swarms and run quickly. And of course make them look decrepit and morbid looking.
@suntzu5302
@suntzu5302 2 жыл бұрын
Hello hello!! Hopefully i'm not too late. Anyway, I was thinking about a Swamp Thing like monster . Keep up the good work. Quack!
@willpfitz
@willpfitz 2 жыл бұрын
Rumpelstiltskin would fit this boardgame perfectly with the medieval craziness theme, he would make a great Knight or even a Boss.
@richardsands
@richardsands 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a Mecha-Manticore - big human head with big fangs, an armoured giant lion body, and a weaponised tail... Or a duck-headed jabberwock ;)
@grantporter8100
@grantporter8100 2 жыл бұрын
What is the over/under that this unfinished game gets completed and sent to backers before KDM's last kickstarter commitments? (I have plenty of content to keep me satisified before then so no worries.) My vote is for some cross-over content with Midara-style enemies.
@derraldlosey1118
@derraldlosey1118 2 жыл бұрын
I going to pass. This games development seems backward. I don’t mind backing a game with the system mostly complete but the art, minis, writing, and even scenarios not done. But this seems like all of those are more complete than the mechanics of the game. Or even the really basic things like iconography.
@Punkyscout
@Punkyscout 2 жыл бұрын
What about a Broccoli Baron. That uses "choke" mechanics, also uses trees as obstacles on the board, maybe even teleporting between them or even attacking heroes in the lime between a pair (or more) trees!! (Silly name I know, but it can always be fixed)
@slimk3836
@slimk3836 2 жыл бұрын
I think the obvious answer here is a Duck Knight!!!! - edit.. that's been taken I see, late to the party I am... so my new selection is a Bubble Gum Berserker!!
@raist78231
@raist78231 2 жыл бұрын
I would introduce a toothless dragon, who angrily sees the glimmer of a knight’s teeth in jealousy and has the ability tooth eruption. A knight loses all teeth, exploding as shrapnel, each knight takes 1 wound. The toothless knight must only approach the dragon from the rear for attacks as they are shamed. :)
@JohannesGudmundsson
@JohannesGudmundsson 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh I want to see this a man with bear arms. We see many human+animal but I want to see more weird hybrid creatures. Eggplant knight is fine but what lies behind the helmet is going to be fun to find out. Or a Goose Knight/Swan Knight. Their helmet would become a mace weapon.
@udenost
@udenost 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm... Maybe like a plague-type monster. Like a mass of rats in a human-sized suit of armor. Also, great video! 😊
@kusidjur4284
@kusidjur4284 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like a grotesque Loot Jester as a rare event hunt. His costume would be exaggeratedly puffed-up and he constantly flees from the characters on the board; whenever he is struck it causes a tear and either above-average quantities of crafting materials/items fall out which can be collected at the end of the battle or swarms of nightmare insects/minions spawn from them. Maybe he tosses traps around as he runs. Can end the battle at any time to collect the loot and retreat from the boss. Drops and spawns improve as the battle wears on and culminates in the jester revealed to be a rampaging centipede-like abomination that wrecks characters. Could be a very low occurrence rate to make it a meaningful, neat little lucky encounter with some risk vs reward at play.
@jamesboyd3623
@jamesboyd3623 2 жыл бұрын
I hope there’s a multitude of kingdoms and creatures that are native to each area. I’m envisioning a hot sweaty jungle, with sweat dripping from your face you hack through thick flora. The flowers and plants are beautiful and obviously very poisonous. You emerge to an area a little more open stirring with a slight breeze unlike the oppressive heat under the canopy. Before you’re able to enjoy the brief respite, the tangled roots pull from under your feet. What looked to be a tree rears up an enormous ent. Littered with various growths and mushrooms that resemble sores and pustules oozing tainted poisonous blood. Dark eyes focus on you as the creature lets out a roar, spewing spores in its heavy hot breath.
@Talliesyn
@Talliesyn 2 жыл бұрын
There is one significant difference between kingdom death and kingdoms forlorn. You can't actually get Kingdom Death for reasonable price or not at all. So KF looks really sweet in comparison even at this superficial level.
@angelicdespot2735
@angelicdespot2735 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm... My weird creature suggestion is a Pinoccio esque wooden Knight, or like the wizard of Oz Tin Man, but made of wood.
@giovannirussildi2603
@giovannirussildi2603 Жыл бұрын
I will introduce the Lord Salamandra sorcerer! An amphibian/humanice foe who would poison and transform your warriors and use the agains you 😈
@cheeko8080
@cheeko8080 2 жыл бұрын
Oof. Wow KF looks like a stinker. Glad I can keep my wallet closed on that one. Not worth dumping that kind of money into something that is simply not ready for a KS. They have to have the gameplay right beforehand or theres simply no way to know if they ever will. I've made that mistake way too many times in the past on KS.
@mgpistol76
@mgpistol76 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. This helps greatly. My abomination would be a carnivorous pegacorn.
@seanhw7737
@seanhw7737 2 жыл бұрын
What Kingdom Forlorn needs is Prince of Fire. It would look something like a multitude set of eyes that drip tears of flame and that are all attached with long iron shackles. The eyes would pull along a golden sarcophagus (the resting place of the Prince).
@jaycassimaty162
@jaycassimaty162 2 жыл бұрын
Let's keep the theme going... Egg Dragon... just a giant armored Egg with Wings. Quack!
@kriss9674
@kriss9674 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely needs a Cat/human hybrid Knight that will bat the Eggknight around like a ball. Thanks for the comparison!
@samhowe9986
@samhowe9986 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to suggest a monster with a scorpion body and its deadly stinger and 3 snake heads with venomous bites. I backed ATO and I'm looking forward to this game as well.
@keithnutt1988
@keithnutt1988 2 жыл бұрын
They should add a giant that is a terrifying duck with Giant pterodactyl wings. I would love a pledge but I would like a duck signed by you both for my game room more.
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