Quake 3 Online Multiplayer still WORKS on a Sega Dreamcast.

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[@LucasCunhaRocha]

John Carmack always made his game to last more than a lifetime, Wish more devs had the same dedication as he had into make games good beyond the gameplay aspects.

[@winlover37]

I really wish id's habit of releasing the source code after a while stuck elsewhere in the industry. There are so many games that I would love to play but are closed off and generally unplayable.

[@infernaldaedra]

John carmack is a hack

[@kiki88561]

Yeah... except for doom on the sega 32x, lol.

[@winlover37]

@@kiki88561 The 32x port was actually shaping up quite nice, then time constraints happened. The story behind it is very interesting

[@Goldenfightinglink]

Anything made in C lasts forever

[@SenorToastGaming]

After first hearing about PSO a few years back I basically became obsessed with the Dreamcast and its online catalog, it's honestly such an underrated console and I'm glad people are still dedicated to it to this day

[@jeffbrownstain]

Play L.O.L. if you haven't. It's a vibe.

[@antiquefuturistic]

Its not underrated but just didn’t reached the masses in the early 2000s. People who rated it back in the day, rated it accurately.

[@JelloFluoride]

Pso is still popular somehow lol. I play the GameCube version

[@sosadagod6963]

No1 played that crap back in the day, youre dedicated to trash

[@aziskgarion378]

There are people still playing Phantasy Star Online

[@haroldgarrett2932]

dreamcast was one of the most forward-thinking consoles of all time. it's a real shame sega was already so crippled at that point, because i would have loved to have seen what they would have done in the PS3-360 era

[@lelsewherelelsewhere9435]

Their tech and people helped create the first Xbox. Therefore the Dreamcast of that time would probably have a lot of similarities to the first Xbox.

[@lelsewherelelsewhere9435]

(and vice versa, Microsoft helped make some of the software and tech for the Dreamcast)

[@thebasketballhistorian3291]

Xbox consoles are basically the spiritual successors to Sega consoles.

[@telavus920]

Could you elaborate? Never having owned a Dreamcast myself, I don't know what I've been missing out on. I had a PS2, but was semi-envious on Xbox owners at the time.

[@HelloSwiftful]

These online preservations are awesome! Might also wanna have a look at the Pretendo project.

[@Agret]

It's not even a preservation project, the official master server is still running.

[@darkspongebob11]

@@Agret yeah but at some point it wont so there prepairing for when it happens

[@EvertG8086]

​@@Agret Better start now rather then later. Just look at the efforts to get xbox live 1.0 started again.

[@TylerFurrison]

@@Agret Miiverse literallly died in 2017, they're bringing that back too

[@doge7831]

@@Agret Parts of Nintendo Network shut down in 2017

[@BigAnt_est.1985]

Every time I see anything Dreamcast it warms my heart.

[@jadagod]

This is how I got into online gaming back in the day. I miss this game and the old DC Q3A community so much!

[@jeffbrownstain]

It truly was ahead of its time.

[@livefreeprintguns]

quake3arena was the first PC game that really enthralled me... the best part is it ran natively under Linux which was a big deal for someone like me as I was starting to get really deep into learning it back in 1996. I got to be pretty nasty with that railgun, son!

[@AmbassadorKoshNaranek]

I knew it was a wise move to keep my Phillips 29" 100Hz CRT with Dolby Surround and my Dreamcast 😁

[@buddahkz9980]

Yes it was, here’s a genius trophy 🏆 from somebody who regrets throwing away most of the old old stuff.

[@Reed_Peer]

Dreamcast having keyboard and mouse controls is a massive W for Sega

[@nattila7713]

only because the controller's analogue sux

[@Reed_Peer]

@@nattila7713 Except for racing games

[@nattila7713]

@@Reed_Peer it is bad in itself. weirdest analogue ever :) even the saturn's is better... or the n64's :)

[@pentexsucks43]

@@nattila7713 Saturn has a trackball with awful deadzones, and Nintendo has never had good sticks. Dreamcast is great. Only issue is the grips being plastic so your finger slides on it.

[@nattila7713]

@@pentexsucks43 wow :)) never tried saturn trackball but n64 analog suxxxx indeed. dc isn't that bad... sure. but still bad.

[@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701]

The Dreamcast was ahead of it's time

[@jasonxhx7854]

Dial up still works. My dad's old centurytel login still works like a decade and a half later for some reason

[@AmbiAnts589]

Q3A.. I used to live it and breathe it. I miss it so much. So many good times.

[@rickykimbrough7112]

PC port urban terror and others like Wolfenstein et legacy zandronum for doom multiplayer with browser full controller support with vibration etc it's fun as hell and I wish more people knew it existed all this on PC is pretty much free online too and I'm running it on a old ass 1.2 ghz amd laptop

[@massimiliano2258]

​@@rickykimbrough7112 and what about ReAction mod?? I was obsessed

[@rickykimbrough7112]

@@massimiliano2258 I'll have to look into that retro arch has multiplayer too I dunno if anyone ever mentions it

[@RaniaIsAwesome]

Getting 10% LG on a 33k modem sure was lots of fun.

[@Kysen10]

@@rickykimbrough7112 urban terror wow, so much nostalgia

[@KRAFTWERK2K6]

I played this back in 2001 online like crazy. One of the few PAL versions who's online mode did NOT get scrubbed before release (Looking at YOU, Unreal Tournament.....) and i even made some friends back then while playing online whom i talked to via phone afterwards so we sent each other SMS texts. I was lucky enough of having the keyboard when i got my Dreamcast so browsing with it and chatting was super easy. I never had the mouse though but my best friend did, including a PS/2 to DC controller adaper so he could hook up a standard PS/2 computer keyboard to it. That's how he played Quake 3 online on the Dreamcast. That Son of a... had such a major benefit since i only played it with gamepad :P

[@That_Handle]

Q3 online for DC with KB+M is worth all the acquisition and setup effort, alone, followed by all the online titles behind that, via controller. 👍 ....Sharing that sentiment regarding UT, specifically, for PS2. ...Was especially impressed with UT as a ported PS2 launch title for already having support for KB+M (controls I'd also expected but was denied in the porting of Tribes 2 as *_Tribes: Aerial Assault_* on PS2 a couple years later) as well as hybrid controls - Dualshock left thumbstick/shoulder buttons+Mouse - while still, optionally, retaining KB as a third input device to hybrid controls for dropping/sharing current weapon, a handful of body-language taunts (no selectable verbal taunts), direct weapon select and, constrained to certain game mode(s), bot commanding... But, even though UT for PS2 nailed down those KB+M controls like Q3 on DC then added hybrid controls, I was greatly disappointed when UT didn't include online nor at least ethernet LAN support which would've made it playable online via LAN-tunneling/XLink Kai if not traditional online-MP. Astonishingly, the porting team (I'm assuming) didn't have funding/time and/or access to the PS2 network adapter or, otherwise, the short-lived USB online adapter for testing in order to bring online play to market. Contrasted to Q3 on DC, the only way to connect PS2s for UT, unfortunately, is via the support for iLink/s400 jack only 39xxx and earlier PS2 models and strictly through the NTSC-U/C release and, for up to 3-4 players (a low capacity), via a firewire hub. Firewire cables, IIRC, were more expensive than ethernet. And, for some reason, 3rd and 4th UT players required an unpublished controller button passcode entry for them to connect to the hosting PS2 whereas, IIRC, no other PS2 title required that (unless that's the only way Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon for PS2 iLinked up). All PS2 buyers of models after 39xxx would then be without the iLink/s400 4-pin Firewire connection all together so that UT system-link wasn't even possible after that point. Adding insult, Q3 on PS2 not including KB+M nor, preferrably, online if not at least ethernet LAN play (allowing for LAN-tunneling) was such a let-down especially in the face of what tech came prior to build reasonable expectations... .....Meanwhile, on DC, Q3 stills runs with the crucial mouse control for fragging online. DC features, in these regards and more, is a no-brainer decision for me.

[@KRAFTWERK2K6]

@@That_Handle My best buddy had an US Import of Unreal Tournament on the Dreamcast, which he played via a Boot Disc on his PAL DC and he even played it online. Even though the lags were ofc insane since he still only had the standard 33k Modem on his Dreamcast and there were no real servers in Europe. BUT it was possible. And till this day i like the DC exclusive maps like "Flux" and really miss them in the PC version. For the PC version of Quake III Arena we had at least the DC map pack that also included the map "Blue Monday" which was one of my favorites.

[@That_Handle]

​@@KRAFTWERK2K6 Yeah, I need equipped. 👍

[@tehwarl0ck]

that used to be one of my fav dreamcast multiplayer games (yes we ended up with a very big phone bill :-p )

[@shaunbowen]

Aw man this was so good split screen back in the day. I had 2 DC mice (mouses?) So my best friend and I would each play with a mouse and a controller each. You could use the left side of the DC controller in place of the keyboard and it worked amazingly!

[@old_liquid]

I still think that half-controller and mouse setup is godsend, it is sooo comfortable. Wish that PC games would support things like that but games nowadays strictly switching gamepad and mouse/kb combo

[@user-qh5br9jl9g]

I thought I was the only person who did that!!

[@faenethlorhalien]

So, I guess it's like in the olden days: you create a room and other people IP connect to it directly. No centralized servers.

[@jadagod]

No, there were servers running. I’m not sure how it’s working now tho

[@TheBackyardChemist]

@@jadagod I pictured that in japan there must be a Pentium 4 Xeon server with 15 year uptime

[@gatorrade1680]

Id software is probably running a master server so that the server browser can find game servers. Game servers are either run by the community or id software. I doubt the later though.

[@danmann861]

Very much ahead of it’s time. I still remember the Shenmue passport disc and the fact that it kept online rankings for scores in the Arcade games. It had online rankings long before Xbox Live was ever a thing and adopted the concept. Yeah, like all things SEGA back then, they were very much ahead of the curb.

[@doitallYT]

Excellent video on the subject, I'm looking forward to seeing what other topics you're able to condense into 60 seconds or less! 😁👍 I really need to mess around with the Dreamcast more, I'm itching to try out the online functionality! Sidenote: I've been playing your Original Xbox homebrew since I was a kid, it's been awesome to be able to put a name to the face! Folks like you kickstarted my I.T. and modding fixation, thanks for the work you've done for the community!

[@jahjoeka]

wow such an inspirational story. please be sure to like, comment and subscribe. i am a bot.

[@youzernejm]

Dreamcasting like a boss in 2022

[@cubeflinger]

Doesn't much more old school than a commodore CRT. Lovely.

[@vgaportauthority9932]

You can play this in VR as well, and it's nuts. I feel like Quake 3 will live forever.

[@old_liquid]

Dreamcast Q3A in VR ? how

[@Loundsify]

​@@old_liquidLinux port ran on Meta Quest 2.

[@ethnol3842]

Would be awesome to see a video of older console fps games that still have online. Stuff like this Quake 3, the CoD games on Wii, etc.

[@chrismingay6005]

I loved Q3 on the Dreamcast, one of my biggest gaming achievements was being accused of having the Dreamcast keyboard and mouse when playing online

[@michael6527]

Me too lol! Good times.

[@SchpoinklebergCityUSA]

amazing. may the servers ever stay live

[@R0NThaDon]

Fraggin fridays 8-11pm! Get yourselves dreampi or a Broadband adapter! Just be ready to get your hair shat in.

[@old_liquid]

Dreamcast games was mindblowing at the time, even cooler than PS2 games. And Q3A DC is masterpiece, everything from menu design to maps to music is great, especially music, I still have Q3A DC disc to listen to soundtrack. UT99 DC soundtrack is banger as well

[@fbussier80]

I still have that monitor. Great Quality.

[@MattWillPrior]

Big W for keeping the servers up

[@NeroZenith]

My mother was cleaning out the closer in my old room I was in when I was younger and she was going to throw my dreamcast out. Good thing she told me "there's some weird dusty dvd player or something here do you want it?" She sent a picture of it and I got it off her, so happy I did.

[@ChristopherAndersonPirate]

Oh I only need all of those things. Ok be right back.

[@pcercuei]

You can also still play PSO online, and there are still regular dreamcast players there!

[@xLazarusEnvy]

shit really? I was just thinking about playing the newer PC PSO but thats insane to know!

[@MrGeekGamer]

You "just" need all these rare things.

[@RaniaIsAwesome]

Nothing here is rare, all massive sellers.

[@LegendBiscuits]

How is it possible? Is the game network decentralized? Is SEGA still keeping it alive? Or someone else and you are using custom settings? More info pls

[@emansfvera]

It’s fan project

[@poorsvids4738]

Maybe custom DNS or the domain was given to fans.

[@XGamesJ6]

I did exactly this with unreal tournament as a kid. I had to use the dial up modem but it was still fun as hell. I might even have the keyboard and mouse somewhere still

[@unit0122]

A timeless classic!

[@techadmirer6475]

omg i realy expected you to need somthing like xlink on the dreamcast, even the 360s xbox live was shut down from what i can tell, this is awesome. btw i hear the GameCube servers are functional to at least in some games. i wish sega was still around.

[@fugs2106]

I remember going online with dreamcast and PSO, first time was incredible

[@bob16cl]

LOLI remember going online when I was 16 back in 1999. I had to unplug my phone cable and run a really long extension cable to my bedroom and my sister would complain because she couldn't use the phone for hours. It was so God awful slow. But at the time it was awesome. Good times!

[@Vanessaira-Retro]

Can still do several other games too, like Unreal Tournament, Out Trigger, and of course the various PSO private servers.

[@undeadgenesis6713]

Not gonna lie, that setup is nostalgically sweet dude 👌🏽🔥

[@CreeperSteve]

Did this a couple days ago. While I absolutely suck at Quake (and the combination of keyboard and controller was pretty unwieldy) it was impressive seeing the game being played online on Dreamcast!

[@iNtake87]

Oh man 56k and quake3. Those where the days.

[@Bugside]

Coincidently I was trying to emulate this game yesterday on a mobile device, and the control was really absurd, single analog stick and all. Was surprised there was option for keyboard mouse on a console

[@wolarts]

You can also still play Quake III online natively on a Windows 98 pc. Something I don't take for granted when we are losing online services for old games left and right

[@wilmah8565]

This is awesome- had this exact game. Didn't really love the dreamcast controls with q3 though. Thanks for sharing!

[@bbbbojangles2737]

I loved the DC. I told all my friends about it. Stupid powerful console for the time. Graphics were superb. Sad to see the DC sink.

[@HeyImGaminOverHere]

I had the network adapter for my Dreamcast but an asshole one of my buddies was friends with stole it while my buddy was borrowing it from me. Makes me so damn mad to this day because Q3 Arena was so fun on the console.

[@bland9876]

Wait a minute I just remember what a Dreamcast controller looks like. Now I'm very confused.

[@ramgladore]

That would have been nice to have when I played PSO. I had to type everything out with the virtual keyboard slowly.

[@grantlester2985]

We need more of this for other games and consoles!

[@mysocialmediaslave2301]

it's very obvious the awkward position MVG playing on the desk just to be able to capture him playing on keyboard and mouse

[@951258tike22]

LOVE this kind of stuff! reminds me of Phantasy Star Online

[@jeff15]

These options are expensive today compare few years ago. Hard-core will do it. ;) great to know these options are available today. 😀

[@bojackson3073]

MVG: "start fragging" Subtitles: "stop fragging"

[@DMJensen9]

You can also get quake 3 on the switch and it’s cross platform online as well with a bunch of new added levels that was released not long ago

[@El-Eesak]

All 12 of you will have a blast

[@Kratos70]

I Spent Most Of The Consoles Life Playing This Game Online, Such A Great Game, Loved The Music As Well.

[@goodall1bay]

The only time i used the keyboard back in the day was when we played multiplayer and i was player 3

[@ElMachoNacho193]

Me not having any of those things: “nice”

[@BuzzaB77]

I was king at this back in the day, but then there was this player that started appearing in games that I'll never forget. Their character name was just "magic" and I couldn't even land a hit on them, ever. They were so fast and I couldn't last a minute. I didn't find out until 20 years later that the pc players had found a way to infiltrate the Dreamcast network and were using cheats!

[@stillkeepin1]

Still better than any of Nintendo's current online offerings.

[@sugonmaballs]

I got the kb&m for DC pretty much just to play UT and Half Life (which was infamously cancelled despite being nearly complete). The Keyboard was also nice while playing PSO. I never got a broadband adapter though.

[@spinksy173]

Time to plug the old girl in again, your videos making me miss her. Quake 3 and PSO 2 online here I come (again)

[@Calvansbagoftricks]

MIND BLOWN!

[@ZenRyoku]

THIS GAME IS THE FORERUNNER FOR ALL FANTASTIC ARENA 1ST PERSON SHOOTER GAMES...💯 (now keep in mind i grew up with doom 1, duke3d, etc) this was the perfected version of any game before and most games after...💯 you can always buy quake 3 live on steam and have plenty of ppl to play with.

[@randy7894]

Damn right about the CRT.

[@BMR86]

ha! that's so cool!!

[@jamezxh]

Love the 1084 screen

[@Clip.Collector]

Did he say meowse? Super Troopers easter egg 👌🤣

[@philliphouse104]

definitely would love to do this

[@raulrojas6238]

Me encanta tu set'up, hermoso.

[@anon_y_mousse]

Neat. Can computer users connect to the same servers to match with Dreamcast users?

[@cooperreeves8913]

Sadly no

[@jadagod]

Back in the day the answer was yes if they had the Dreamcast map pack not sure about now tho

[@BewareTheCharple]

I hope they bring quake 3 to modern consoles

[@Babbages]

this is why all games should have user-hosted servers as a secondary option after they take down the main servers it might cause a host advantage but id rather have that than a games online become completely dead because of no servers like a lot of games.

[@KetwunsGamingPad]

Imagine what people used to say: I’m a PC gamer I swear. You saw no Dreamcast logo that was my windows desktop screen lol.

[@HUYI1]

I still have the keyboard for quake arena! classic game, the TV feels like a relic at this point tho lol 😂

[@ericsikes1924]

I got hype when UT2004 is still active. Last time I played Q3A was in like '02.

[@Labyrinth6000]

Never too late to come back!

[@Zeithri]

Amazing, that a game from 25+ years ago can play multiplayer without any issues... YA' HEAR THAT YOU TRIPLE A F-CKS?!? IT DOES WHAT YOUR MODERN GAMES DON'T!

[@horatiohoohaa3479]

I still have all of those things, maybe I’ll give it a try

[@victornicolasruy-diaz2647]

Hahaha, al you need is [insert endless list of items there] I'd love to take the taste of it, only Sega device I haven't played yet.

[@PropaneWP]

I miss my Commodore monitor. Bet they're expensive as hell now

[@AppNasty]

Installed Team Arena yesterday off Steam…nothing beats DC version to me.

[@Downhuman74]

No VGA adapter on a silky-smooth CRT monitor? A missed opportunity. I totally played this back in the day...over the standard modem. I still have everything, too -- including the mouse and keyboard. Just need to replace the power supply on my DC.

[@DrYak]

"All you need is..." or a PS/2 mouse/keyboard to DreamCast adapter.

[@prophismusic]

this is awesome

[@underintact134]

Almost makes me wish I had a Dreamcast

[@MegamanXGold]

I have literally never used my Dreamcast Mouse and Keyboard, but now I need to find a copy of this game.

[@hjbom3ega]

lol download it

[@tubinonyou]

Where's the original full video for this? I wasn't able to find it when I looked the other day.

[@EstaviusMarx]

That’s a surprise!

[@dimnimrod2978]

There's a way to use the old 56k modem as well using a telephone line simulator but it's a complicated mess

[@jarredkrum9894]

Awe the days when games were still great

[@ghostofaforgottenweedle]

"You only need..." Proceeds to list 1000 things

[@pentexsucks43]

The only requirement is the cable LMAO. Keyboard+mouse are optional. It's very playable on controller. And obviously you need a Dreamcast+Dreamcast game to play a Dreamcast title lol

[@indigo6518]

You should talk about how quake 3 on Dreamcast can cross play with older versions of quake 3 on PC

[@michael6527]

Unfortunate that you had to have a controller plugged in for save data. Which kind of makes it a mess of cords. Would've been pretty cool to have a VMU slot tucked away on the keyboard. Or even an adapter that just holds two VMU slots up against the front of the console.

[@RaptorZX3]

all you need is that stupidly expensive broadband adapter, or an equally-expensive homemade version of it. Right...or play the PC version. You can still use an old Windows 98 machine AND still play online with Quake 3 Arena too! I made a video about that around 4.5 years ago.

[@volumeboyman]

I had the DC keyboard but thought using the controller was a cheaper and equally effective alternative to the DC mouse... I'd probably be more into PC gaming had I gotten that damn mouse!

[@andresbravo2003]

It is crossplay on both PC and Dreamcast.

[@reblitgaming]

ok, now i need dream cast!!!

[@thisisnotachannel]

Well... you don't NEED an old CRT television to play Dreamcast in 2022(3). My LG 1080p HDTV from 2006 has a/v in. Actually, it has two of them. And a VGA, so I use it as my PC monitor, as well. I still use my CRT for Genesis, SNES, and anything older. That's right... I hook up my N64 to one of the a/v in ports on my HDTV... looks great!