QuakeCon 1997 Winner Rix Vs sCary on dm6 QuakeWorld 1997 1080p 4k

[@cosine.]

The fact that this match was played in 1997 and we are able to watch it today at 4k 60 FPS goes to show how far ahead John Carmack was thinking when designing the demo feature of the game engine 😲. May god bless this man.

[@dwrabauke]

To me, he is the godfather of 3D gaming. Without him, gaming as we know it today would not exist. In my opinion, we (gamers) owe him everything. I hope to meet him some day.

[@rix911]

Now that I'm watching this again as Quake nears its 25th birthday, I can see how early on in the game this was. I still had movement cues for strafe running from Doom. Fascinating how this ages.

[@nomorecheezmeh]

Let's 1on1.

[@rix911]

@@nomorecheezmeh Well that's been a while since anyone wanted to play me. Come to QuakeCon 2024 and we can make that go.

[@ttully]

Thx so much for all these vids!! You're a legend!

[@Scott.B70]

Ahh, Quakecon 97, fun times.

[@Huqe]

It rustles my jimmies to see him not taking the Super Nailgun

[@SportsPlug-cp1eq]

This is wild I used to play with these boys when I was 14

[@DarkPa1neR]

Wow very old match, nice find! Thanks!

[@Timic83tc]

thankyou so much for preserving history :)

[@highestsettings]

I'm trying to find the first time people used strafe jumping. It seems like it might have been discovered in Quake 2 and people realised it worked in Quake 1 as well afterwards. I can't find a Quake 2 duel where people aren't strafe jumping, but I can't find an early Quake demo where they are. Does anybody know when it happened? I find the way the pro scene for quake developed fascinating.

[@WayneSchuller]

I remember very clearly, in the public matches between Romero and killcreek, Romero revealed how you could strafe jump to save time on dm2 . It was a revelation. After that everyone developed strafe jumping and speed jumping etc

[@rix911]

@@WayneSchuller Not really, and this is confusing for people. The original Quake had no client side prediction. John Carmack invented it and was working on the Quakeworld project. The idea was to allow play on modems and higher latency connections, NOT for a LAN. In fact, the original (which became known as "NetQuake") actually played better and smoother on a LAN. However John C got a little overwhelmed workload wise, and handed the project over to Dave "Zoid" Kirsch. Zoid "Fixed" a "bug" about how physics were applied while your feet were on the ground. If you jumped quickly enough however, the friction was never applied so you could continue to accelerate through consecutive jumps. It played very differently than the original game, due to some liberties taken in actual engine configuration (rocket jump height is different for example). Also, due to the friction "bug" being "fixed", you are way more likely to be popped up in the air with a rocket. That one doesn't bother me as much because it's fun, but all of the high-end competitive gamers were pretty disappointed with Quakeworld when it was finished and we stuck to the LAN tournament circuit for the most part.

[@goqsane]

@@rix911that's fair but vanilla Quake was blown out of the water with QuakeWorld. The client side prediction was a game changer.

[@rix911]

If you were sub 100ms ping Quake played much better than Quakeworld. On LAN it wasn't even close.

[@true_plays_games]

@@rix911nailed it! Awesome comment. QW was such a game changer for the HPBs. We were scrubbed against the college kids playing at 25-70 ping. mhz from Stanford’s DM server was a terror

[@simovihinen875]

Like the silent walking. Did they not have this game the following year at all? As in they went '97 Q1, '98 Q2 straight into '99 Q3?

[@SportingMotor]

DM6 is the best zone!!!

[@TTTT-et8lh]

that jumping sound sounds like some porn

[@rix911]

This is not Quakeworld btw. You guys are confused.

[@ULTRAOutdoorsman]

Yeah it was, it's just being replayed in some other crap

[@rix911]

@@ULTRAOutdoorsman What are you talking about? I am literally playing in this match and I know what we were playing.

[@scottchapman1742]

Pretty sure this is not quakeworld, but is regular old quake, i.e., Net Quake.

[@SuperGhettoBob]

Is this Steve "sCary" Gibson from Shugashack?

[@Scott.B70]

Yup

[@alexhoffman8652]

gg steve

[@TheSimonScowl]

gg

[@danielnegron8803]

Makes me nauseous just by looking at it

[@ptkk21]

5:23 that was the top level of aiming back thatn? Damn! How did bad players look like than?

[@rix911]

That's not Quakeworld. It's the original Netquake. I probably have the demo of the Forego match somewhere.

[@SuperGhettoBob]

Rix? I met you at Quakecon 1999. You kicked my ass. :0)

[@fmaruchan]

Want to play some quakeworld?

[@rix911]

No, QuakeWorld was a hack of the original code and didn't play the same. :)

[@ydurxtfuhicyx]

@@rix911 Carmack hacked own code LOOOOL

[@ydurxtfuhicyx]

That's QW: movement not locked after exiting from teleporter

[@recordingerror]

unfortunatly the demo download link now takes you to a p*rn site.

[@decebal01US]

Thank you for the info. I have now uploaded the demo and put the download-link in to the video description.

[@recordingerror]

Thank you.

[@alexeyshulga5982]

Config?

[@truckcompany]

wow, quake was so boring back then.

[@HugoHakvoort]

Happy they found bhop :D.

[@CaudaMiller]

Hugo Hakvoort sj

[@bethelemstar4636]

it looks this way today, but imagine how their adrenaline was pumping back then? :D

[@JohannesAlexisBader]

its the slowest map! watching an aerowalk duel is very different :)

[@sashan225]

bot players )

[@TheSimonScowl]

I used to get accused of that constantly... with lag times in the 200s!

[@FERN69Q]

this map is more boring than blood run

[@AluminumHaste]

Dat aim Ugh, terrible

[@rix911]

+AluminumHaste Hah, I was using a mouse with a ball in it... :)

[@decebal01US]

+Dan Hammans Hello :), did you managed to find the netquake demo from you against Forego? from the real QuakeCon 1997 Final?

[@AluminumHaste]

+Dan Hammans are you serious? omg lol forgot how old these demoes are.

[@Scott.B70]

Rix put Iowa on the map! U4 was a tough group to beat, individually and 4v4

[@rix911]

Pretty sure I have the (real) QuakeCon '97 demo somewhere. I have been meaning to put a bunch of stuff online. QuakeCon 2018 was just this weekend, funny how that motivates me every year.

[@2ombi3ql4]

I'm using this vid to disprove the Dictionary.com-reported claim by the StarCraft (1998) devs that their community coined the term "gg". I know Quake community maybe didn't invent it either, but Quake demos make it pretty easy to disprove the 1998+ claim at least. (And unless somewhere on a dusty old HDD/webserver there exist even older vids/screenshots from e.g. Doom/Marathon, Quake demos might be the earliest recorded use of "gg") Anyways, I see that the vid & description says the demo date is 13.11.1997 -- but when I download the demo file the modified date in Windows is 7/24/1997. So I just wanted to be sure on the date. Is the date embedded in the demo file, or was it listed that way on the original demo site (if you remember)? Either way, I do have many other Quake demos from 1997, with plenty of post-game ggs. Just trying to give credit where it's due. Thanks for uploading!

[@ibtarnine]

we were saying gg in 96 and 97, both in game after matches and on gamesnet (irc). i was playing quake back then. someone claiming it originated in starcraft in 98 is comical.