Rapha vs Evil - QL Duel, Grand Final (QuakeCon 2016)

[@MaitredeDieu]

This is Quake duelling at its finest: smart play choices, impressive endurance, almost perfect execution, epic comebacks, the two best players pushed to their limits, hysterical commentators, public on their knees. Historical e-sport. Both players deserve to win.

[@johannsmith5697]

the only reason why they didnt both win, is because someone has to win

[@joeybeann]

What happened to gaming?

[@-MohammedElSyed-]

@@joeybeann Casuals came in.

[@goldnutter412]

me and fren Dave used to duel all night or DM, back and forth.. 14hrs a night 365 a year strange.. things happened lol.. got auto kicked for bot many times one was q2.. triple tapping up the stairs on the EDGE heard water sound, snap right 180 flick, down a bit as im tapping, FATALITY you were kicked for being a bot

[@goldnutter412]

one time i was bunnyhopping happi happi swaying left and right, warehousing as you do.. was thinking ill look UP as a SCREAM past the hole but im going between the boxes, and hear the spawn sound and chaingun flick dead guy QUIT MY FUCKING CLAN I ALMOST CRIED AxiaL :( QA

[@cristianscaramella2895]

That's the greatest thing i've ever seen, I'm crying. I truly feel sorry for everyone who doesn't play quake and can't appreciate this masterpiece.

[@glallalalal]

Even if you hated gaming and were aged 74 you would still love and appreciate that game

[@TOCS94]

And almost nobody I know cares or even know about the game. I once had a discussion with a few people at a local LAN about how I thought the FPS scene was boring and casual compared to just 10 years ago. It's all CS:GO now and it just doesn't compare to the skill and mindset you need to do what these two just did in that grand final. They heavily disagreed and thought Quake was a boring game for spectators -- I should probably just show them this. One of the guys even said he didn't think Quake was very fast-paced... and he even watched the pro scene for a while and used to play Quake II years ago.

[@RESPBROADCAST]

don't be sorry! it's like hard rock (quake) and pop music (overwatch).

[@unfinest]

Well, if we go by mods like 'CPMA' then 'Q2-RO' aka 'InstaGib' destroys everything. The Hook is just lightning! So dunno about that "cpm is a bazillion times faster than" .... ;) //Former World Champion and best friend with Purri's mother. XOXO *FniZZ* ;) .. [URX]/[CyC]

[@jmm00702]

***** instagib was a casual shit mod, just like extreme, and cpm is still fuckloads of times faster. I`ve got several world records on defrag in many different maps and both physics, have played q1/qw and over 30 mods in both q2 and q3, and cpm maps require yourself to handle movement and land a plasma gazboost at 5k ups while timing it with a fucking farshot double rox. Instant weapon switches added to the depth of combined strafejumping+air control+clipping+gbs+obs and all its variations+fbs makes cpm insanely fast the better you get, and is to this day the holy grail of the fps elitism that killed the genre off, having an uncapped skill ceiling that throws any newcomer off

[@StephenChapman]

I can't believe how fucking perfect this final was! Man, if Evil had just a few more seconds, there's no telling how this would've gone. Incredible! Rapha and Evil are such amazing players. Great job not giving up at any point, guys. Truly down to the wire!

[@algo2957]

This was the last Quake Live tourney to be had at Quakecon (2017 onwards was Quake Champions). What a treat this final was. It was like Quake Live's swan song.

[@dj-fuzz]

Virgin QC vs Chad QL

[@seanbradford8193]

Quake is the most entertaining spectator eSport.

[@SarcofagoBlackThrash]

This has to be the absolute highlight of how professional and extremely high skilled the Quake pros really are. This is the most intense Duel finals I've ever witnessed (been watching them since the days Fatality was still around) and I have to say it's really appropriate how the series was left behind, given this was the last Quake Live tournament, it was a legendary showdown. Legendary plays from both players. Mad respect for this match.

[@asc7ka]

one of the best duel finals ever!

[@glallalalal]

Correction * Best duel final ever*. Explain how a match could be better...............

[@inversion8056]

Correction *if Evil won it would be better)

[@kristiankoski3908]

@@glallalalal Got that 5-5 kill in 9.59 and we had 420 overtimes and Evil wins.. :D

[@NZyoutube]

Clearly, the best dueling game on the planet.

[@bitchplease1114]

2023, and it's still the best, undisputed!

[@vig1lante]

This is one of the greatest Quake Live finals, this is now #1 on my top 10 QuakeCon finals.

[@gmannumerouno]

I've said this on an old Qaukecon video.... I'm a noob to the Quake games but I truly love watching these tourneys. The meta game is so amazing, it's something other shooters just doesn't have. I have to give credit to Rapha, Evil, Cooler, Toxic for truly showing the game at peak performances. I love this game and the community.

[@AlexeyFilippenkoPlummet]

Cypher definetely deserves a credit too

[@gmannumerouno]

Alexey Filippenko yes yes indeed. There are a few others as well I just forgot some names.

[@zambo6453]

Dahang was always my personal favourite; cypher and cooler edge him out for game and rapha for strategy but his playstyle is so fun to watch and balls out. there are almost too many excellent players to mention. Zero4, the guy who mentored Rapha, had some insane duels with him on vertical vengeance back in the day.

[@gmannumerouno]

+Patrick Zambelli Dahang I'm not familiar with but I will look him up. Zero was another one I liked watching as well.

[@miguelpereira9859]

Gerald Mimms Quake is an incredibly entertaining game to watch. I like to watch pro matches of duel almost as playing. And yes, I am also a noob.

[@darkin1484]

DDK and Zoot the OG casters. Love it. What an absolutely banger of a final.

[@carloschau9310]

Most tense moments at:15:55, 46:16, 1:13:24 (epic chases!) Great game, the best players, awesome commentary. Simply Epic!

[@thesphyrth]

It's tournaments like these that keep my love for Quake burning. Please keep the QuakeCons alive.

[@robyn9901]

Wow, what an amazing final! There is nothing else like Quake.

[@Arkl1te]

23:11 to skip the intro and get on with the longest duel match I have ever seen.

[@davideandroid1254]

This is one of the most stunning finals I've ever seen...many congratulations to the perfect executor Evil and to the True Quake Champion rapha. Cooller, Cypher, where were you? Without them Quake has a different taste... However, if this is the last great QL lan, then this final can be considered a beautiful epitaph of a deep, pure, beautiful game.

[@yrrahyrrah]

Cooller already made his comeback in 2015 I think. That was truly amazing, watching him perform in the smaller leagues and going so far in quakecon. Story of that year. Too bad the format kind of ruined it.

[@davideandroid1254]

harrythedevil that's true. Cooller already made his comeback. Now that the professional e-sport history of this game is ended, watching these matches of QL from an "historical" point of view make me think how high Rapha, Evil and Cypher set the skill ceiling. But Cooller adapted himself to 4 different Quake games now, he was and still is a top contender in every one of these games, always battling in finals and in the later stages of tournaments, long after the moment he was the undisputed number 1. He became a top contender in Quake 3 in 2002 and still is a top contender in Quake Champions in 2017, after being Dreamhack champion of Overwatch, after many, many finals and victories in QL, Q4, Q3. Rapha and Evil reached an incredibly high level of QL in this final, but still I'm similary impressed by Cooller's ability to adapt to different games and play at the very top level in each of them. That said, I'm convinced that none player in history has accomplished what Rapha has. 5 Quakecons, 2 IEM world championship, ESWC, and so on...

[@jarkkohaimakainen2378]

@@davideandroid1254 Sergey Orekhov (evil) still probably the best Quake Live player so far IMO

[@XSFlanger]

This was the most intense fucking final, I've ever seen! I wish this game had the same amount of players CSGO does. Would be the best thing in the online fps ever :D

[@AlexeyFilippenkoPlummet]

Absolutely fantastic finals. ddk's and zoot's emotions after that plot twist on the 9th overtime were immense, histerical, brilliant. And you know that they are not forcing themselves to emote like many other commentators do, Quake commentators are genuine in that regard. Ddk's breath was literally taken away, he became red as a tomato after that epic moment lol P.S.: evil deserved to finally win QuakeCon and earn Russia its first QuakeLive world title. I feel like this time rapha was simply considerably more lucky. Look at how many times he ran away with 10 hp, crazy. Although evil made a couple of painful mistiming mistakes on the last map. Close amazing games. But after being home for top level Quake for so many years, we and evil still don't have the title :(

[@mrbdzz]

I feel for evil. He has certainly the best combat skills IMO, and he's long due the title. But it's no coincidence that Rapha keeps winning him, as he did in the winners finals and in the group stage. Rapha just plays it tactically better. With a little better discipline, Evil would be absolutely unbeatable.

[@simovihinen875]

Commiserations! I think Rapha just has a few more real strengths as a player. It may have looked like he got lucky running away, but at the same time if he had been fazed by the situation, his reflexes etc. may have slowed him down just those extra 10 hp. Evil reminds me of Tox. A machine. In the interviews Rapha shows emotions at least. That's why I have a difficult time cheering for Evil as opposed to someone like Base or Cooller. Also why do we have to make it about nations? That's so gay, but I know nationalism is a big thing in Russia. (and to be exact Russia has titles in TDM) But yeah best finals ever...

[@SUNSPYtm]

Yeah rapha has always been the most complete player IMHO. His positional play has often got him out of tight situations and gotten victories over slightly superior aimers. Agree with you guys though, sad there can only be one winner

[@justingoretoy1628]

+Simo Vihinen It was obviously the Americans chanting "USA, USA".

[@simovihinen875]

Justin Goretoy Can you try to elaborate on what you mean?

[@BRRBUNNY]

congrats to Rapha. & very wp evil, best final I have ever seen

[@glallalalal]

doesn't get any better than that. Even the ending was amazing

[@BRRBUNNY]

Roland P it's not stupid at all. evil had already lost to rapha 2 times previously in the tournament, rapha was in the winner's bracket

[@Keksigrilli]

Nice job ruining the outcome beforehand. How fucking stupid are you?

[@BRRBUNNY]

Jose Lepistö I'm glad I could be of service. What did you expect when you looked in the comment section? People to post their thoughts on something else completely irrelevant to the video?

[@Keksigrilli]

I have a really large screen and your comment popped right in my face when the page loaded. This is basic stuff and even advised, you should know better

[@TheBeardedGamerReviews]

Sickest final!! The commentators are awesome, they're as fun as the actual game, well done ! :)

[@TheBeardedGamerReviews]

Love the reactions! 16:56 =)))

[@puckoster]

this is seriously next level gaming right here

[@fabiod6656]

'If this was the final match of competitive lan QL then it sure went out with a bang. A series to remember for years.'

[@KARTIKEYA007]

No way quake champions is coming out in 2017. Also no way that piece of shit overwatch wannabe can be as great as this.

[@RESPBROADCAST]

do not compare shit cartoon and a masterpiece ;)

[@mikeistp5736]

*>>No way quake champions is coming out in 2017.* Heh)

[@ryos.7757]

7:25 to get right into the games.

[@jord4z]

still watching these in 2024. absolutely gaming at its finest. two of the goats it could have gone either way evil is every bit as good as rapha.

[@strumpf1234]

Best match ive ever witnessed. Never saw Rapha being that exhausted. This was pure magic.

[@ИванИванович-ж9о]

Amazing as always. Wanna see it again in 2017 :)

[@Renat1985]

i talked to evil aftewards and he said he wants revenge i mean if majority ppl send petition to quakon team in order not to remove quakelive from the line up they might think about that and hopefully we will see quake live in 2017

[@ИванИванович-ж9о]

I think we need to make a petition ye. But not only petition. I think Quake3 (Quake Live) must be on Olympiad 2020 or smth :) Quake Live its not a game any more - its become a life.

[@AlexanderGorodnev]

Where can I vote for quakelive at quakecon again? Even more, I would donate 1-2 dollars to the prize fund for the next event!

[@Zen-rw2fz]

quake being on the olympics would be great to see but i think if a videogame ever will be played on the olympocs then it will be league of legends or csgo i mean one of theae games where the companys are pushing so hard on for the money

[@etta777]

You can see it again right now

[@zydian_]

Saying these players having nerves of steal would be a understatement.

[@Chris-h5e]

This match deserves much more than 50 thousand views.

[@KARTIKEYA007]

"pro"cod and csgo matches look a pile of shit in comparison to this masterpiece.

[@StephenChapman]

There's no flashiness in those games. Movement and physics are much more sterile, allowing for very little expression like Quake allows. That alone makes Quake such a superior game to play tactically, and to watch! I mean, props to pro CS players; I support gaming and e-sports across the board, but nothing touches a pro Quake match, especially between the likes of Rapha and Evil!

[@Thereal13aL]

cs is more about slow paced tactics while quake is fast paced and takes more solo skill in aim, timing and esp. movement

[@RESPBROADCAST]

dunno about cod, cs:go is a good game, but it's really weird that eveyone forgot who is grandfather of esports, it's quake!

[@nerdstrangler4804]

Quake takes more skill in everything. CS initially got popular because it was a casual friendly alternative to quake and UT at the time. Thanks to the de-emphasis on reflexes and the added emphasis on camping.. or "slow paced tactics" as you like to call it. CS was the original dudebro shooter.

[@KARTIKEYA007]

Boner Patrol still CS atleast requirs some skill(even though its mostly camping, but still need skill to aim atleast), but cod is just a playground for horny teenagers who dont even come to play. Just name yourself a girl and see the obscenity those shitheads spew out, it's sad that quake champions want to attract little shitheads like that. I just hope it will be a REAL quake, not some dumbed down BS.

[@erebus79]

Best game I've ever seen.

[@Ultrawup]

I am so glad this turned up in my recommended feed. What an insane series o.O

[@kempessfa1946]

Best final ever. Evil played amazing.

[@jarkkohaimakainen2378]

Sergey Orekhov (evil) still probably the best Quake Live player so far IMO See Rapha's defensive style against evil's

[@MrLamSack]

I don't even play quake and this was entertaining af!

[@TheDefender123Plays]

Lam2J You should try it

[@anonymousanonymous3707]

This makes the learning curve of a dark souls game look like nursery ... It's a literal shock to the system when you first play and someone is literally beating you down for hours on end ... Then you stem the tide and it feels like you've conquered a nation ... You turn the tide and you feel like you've conquered a planet , there is literally no other game that compares it's for masochistics 👍

[@engineer8363]

It's still pretty active on steam. Average of 300 active players per month, so its not too hard finding servers. I personally suck at duel so always play clan arena haha!

[@UlikeMinimalQMme2]

just came back to this replay after this years qcon. and i already miss the old times with real quake :/

[@zer0tolerance806]

I just have watched this final again and i so miss those times 😭 so nostalgia .

[@shaighan1]

Absolutely, BY FAR, the best grand final in the history of QUAKE!!!! Impossibly amazing!!!!

[@roffajin]

Elder was such an epic game to see live, what an amazing final this was!

[@qqz573]

nuttiest final i've ever seen, i had to stay up till 5 am to watch and i jumped out of my seat when evil won elder 10/10, considering that this may be the last quakecon with QL, it felt so good

[@MrBrianSchumacher]

Congrats to both Evil and Rapha, absolutely amazing final!!

[@charliobrown3960]

I have seen many finals, but this is one of the best!

[@Stalast.]

Quake is life

[@tathtath]

quake is love

[@dudesome6969]

Quake is bae!! 😍😍

[@melchiah4925]

Quake is impressive! Quake is excellent!

[@lamosos]

Quake is life. Quakelive is... megahealth?

[@SuckItLily]

The cerimony in the end should have been: k1llsen walks on stage, gets his third place cheque, walks off, then evil gets his second place cheque, then finally rapha gets the trophy and gets to say his piece. This way rapha would have had time to breathe and relax after the tense matches.

[@ryos.7757]

Yes but it's quakecon, always a awful mess.

[@BlurSentinel]

Why is this map not already remade into Quake Champions?

[@lamosos]

What an absolute gem. I must've woken up the neighbors more than once while watching this because I couldn't contain my emotions. And I am normally about as emotional as Rapha. The amount of drama in this final tramples any pro sports game that I've ever seen.

[@eminence_]

Quake was big part of my life from quake 2 to quake 3 cpm and ra3 to quake live. I don't play games anymore since my values have changed over time, but that's life... There is no other game or sport that requires such impeccable skill. I have never had that admire to any person but the pros in quake scene. Even though my field of work requires a lot dedication. I was one of the best in niche parts of quake such as pql ctf but this, the level these players are in the purest form of fps gaming is just phenomenal.

[@demon0r]

DDK, Zoot, thanks for the great commentary :) Long live Quake my friends :)

[@Alby911]

Simply amazing skills. Nothing compares when it comes to FPS.

[@therealzilch]

This is perhaps the greatest Quake duelling I've ever seen. Brilliant play by both Rapha and Evil. Great commentary too. Very inspirational to this only fair Q3 player.

[@miguelpereira9859]

The Quake Live/ Quake 3 competitive scene may be gone now, but it for sure went out like Sarge in that cinematic, with a fucking bang that was this match

[@vanbeekster]

Best finals ever! I watched it 4am local time and I don't regret it at all :)

[@gruffski]

This match up was flippen intense!!!!!! all the come back with in a few seconds to spare were monumental! amazing match! even the fact that they played 5 round was bananas! great stuff! cant wait for 2017!

[@merlinipoutine3443]

Evil deserved to win so much, it hurts, but still the best quake final I've ever seen.

[@МаксимД-ц1ь]

The score in this match is 2 to 2, so why did rapha win?

[@spbalance]

Fucking amazing. Breath-taking stuff. So happy I got into Quake back in the 90s.

[@davideandroid1254]

The first map here was crucial (not that the others were less important), Evil was playing some sublime Quake and had everything under his control because score was on his side, he was leading 2-0. He should have secured that map and tie the series on 1-1. It's the only map in this series where the result was for a lot of time mainly in his hands. But at 11:35 (4:57 in game) he should have gone aggressive and finish rapha who was very low in stack. Red was not respawning anytime soon and Evil could have taken the Mega after the kill or heavily damage a rapha without weapons if after the eventual frag he respawned in that area and stole the mega left by Evil. In most cases the result would have been 3-0 for Evil with a very high chance to mantain full map control. Instead he has gone for the secure and passive choice and that was the first serious error in my opinion after 4 minutes of excellent play. And then at 14:37 (7:55 in game) he failed to deliver a lot of damage to rapha who stole the Mega and then got full map control very easily. After that Evil went too passive and rapha had the possibility to pull of the miracle and he succeeded. Evil simply shouldn't never have left that possibility to exist. I know that in Elder something similar happened at inverteded sides but in that map no player had full control of the situation for 8 minutes. In the last three maps both players had more of less their chances, but the first in my opinion was lost by Evil after that start, with that couple of errors. And this is why rapha was so strong in this game. He punished errors like no one, he was capable of using the most little things to his advantage. The greatest mind to ever play this game, along with Cooller maybe.

[@jackhammer5683]

What are the maps they were playing on? Want to find them in Quake Live

[@beerthread9446]

"maybe it's a good sign, Quake 5, Quake Champions coming up!" - Rapha .. I mean, he said it and here he is years later - dominating in QC!

[@gravellergear4703]

Here 2023 to watch this masterpiece of match

[@gelbeNinjakampfkatze]

im a total noob when it comes to quake (played like 20h) but every once in a while i come back and watch a pro match just to be amazed how much skill you need and you smart these guys are playing. love it and would like to get into that game more

[@eifersuchtkim669]

Evil was drunk, his fans were drunk, I'm drunk now and everyone in russia is drunk. Rapha took advantage of it like always.

[@lamosos]

What do you mean advantage? Evil had the advantage because he was drunk. He was in his element.

[@HollowRick]

@@lamosos bruh the Op is clearly being sarcastic..

[@lamosos]

@@HollowRick There is no necromancer class in quake, go away.

[@HollowRick]

@@lamosos ?

[@randomfaca]

I've seen rapha multiple times on Furious Heights at the end of a match in that corner at the MH. Positions himself perfectly to survive and win it. Incredibly composed. Great way to finish off QL.

[@darkferiousity]

I am wondering how hal_9000 or chris ska would fair in these tournaments.

[@zhukov1337]

Thanks guys. Probably the most entertaining final ever!!

[@goprodog4304]

Still the greatest game ever.

[@abhinayaagarwal]

That presentation at the end, just sad for such a masterful finals :(

[@tazzz001]

no 1080p??

[@ziekiee7966]

Are there still tourneys going on QL? players like rapha an cypher? and stermy?!

[@engendex7721]

There are still tournaments in QL but not official ones. Rapha and Cypher compete in Quake Champions now until maybe when Diabotical comes out.

[@somelone2401]

177k views throughout 7 years??? So much people missing out this the most epic quake match😮

[@NZyoutube]

How can you deposit that kinda cheque? Pretty sure ATM's don't come as big these days...

[@xzystence]

Loved it, best series. Enough said. Thx for upload!

[@martintuskevicius8084]

I'm confused about the format of the grand finals. I thought this was a best of three. rapha won for first map, the evil won the second two, so I thought that was the end of it. However there was a fourth map. Why? How did rapha with when the score was 2-2?

[@NicolasSzymanski]

It was a best of five. Prior matches were best of 3, but usually you can expect a 'grand final' to have a few more games in them. You already answered your own question-- There was another map after 2-2, that means there were a total of 5 rounds, it was a best of 5.

[@martintuskevicius8084]

But if it was a best of five, the winner needs to win three of the five matches. However, the video showed rapha winning two matches, and evil winning two matches. No one won three.

[@NicolasSzymanski]

I've skimmed through the video, and the first map begins with Rapha actually having one point to begin with. This is likely due to him having come in from the Winner's bracket. Some games/tournaments will give winner bracket folk a point, sort of how like in Smash's EVO, the losers bracket finalist needs to essentially win the first bo5 for a reset into the next bo5. So, there's an earlier video where Rapha beats Evil in a bo3, so I assume that's the case. I was confused at first, because for the first few minutes of the first map it said 0-0.

[@NZyoutube]

I think Evil must've come from the loser's bracket? And would have to win 3 to make up?

[@martintuskevicius8084]

I think you guys are right about that. Admittedly, the casters could have clarified that a little bit going into the match.

[@TheDorianTube]

Wut? I didn't know they're still doing pro Q3 tourneys. I loved this game

[@СергейАлейник-ш4ы]

This is Quake Live tourney (Improved version of the game based on Q3).

[@KARTIKEYA007]

Improved..... xDDD

[@jmm00702]

"improved" lmfao

[@QuackerHead-j]

It's the exact same game except you don't have to install a thousand mods to play competetively, and it makes approximately 200% more sense for newcomers. The only reason to hate on QL is it splits the AFPS playerbase even further, any other critique is just utterly petty.

[@paulgettier]

Anyone know what version - cfg mods - etc - that were used in this?

[@biubiuty]

which version of quake makes the "huh" grunt sound when the player is jumping?

[@aesonone]

sick comeback on elder by evil, really didn't think he'd take it

[@Phearize]

!! epic

[@DidYouSayChoco]

yo, can someone plz explain why quake is so "skillful." im genuinely curious. i recently started watching competative footage and have no idea wtf is going on. Is it because of its fast movement? is it because they dont aim down gun-sights? Im not trying to figure out whats going on, i can learn that by watching more. what differs quake from others skill wise? what should i look out for?

[@XSFlanger]

That fluid movement you see, takes years of practice (im not even exaggerating). It would take you countless days just to do that simple megahealth jump they do so consistently. Item control is another crucial skill required to be successful in duel. They don't see the timers of items, that we spectators can see. They have to time all the items by heart and remember when they spawn. They need to anticipate when opponent takes the powerup and estimate when will it spawn and how much hp/armor would the opponent have, so they know when it's best to engage in combat. Whole map control is based on knowing where can you do unanswered damage, thus you also need to know what weapons does your opponent hold and try to control weapon spots too. Then you will have to learn all the angles, all the spam positions how to spam, where to spam, how to get aim accuracy with hitscans like LG, how to exit teleport and shoot in defined angle etc. etc. etc. When you combine all that, it is overwhelming demand of skill to be called the best. Try the game :)

[@david-csmhaltero77]

What a great show, really miss those times. Too bad Quake lost most of its tactical mind games with QC

[@powalovesmusic]

can the players see the mega, yellow red etc timers or just the time when theyve been picked up ?

[@shaighan1]

Incredible comebacks from the greatest players, amazing! :)

[@excess.subiefl0w]

wow..... This is the best match up I have ever SEEN, I was on the edge of my seat the whole time!!!!!!

[@leonhardeuler3080]

Why do they start 50 seconds into the first match? That's almost 1/10th of a match...

[@jackhammer5683]

What map they were playing on?

[@mattiastabile2092]

why aren't there game sounds?

[@frolik_ua]

Amazing final! But wtf with the video? It starts with map 2 without sound. Big minus for this. Congrats rapha. Miss cypher((

[@AgentArcadia]

i havent really played QL in a while, let alone duel -- is that 2nd map new? I dont recall a map with locked doors and a key existing

[@MrJuico1337]

It is, yeah. I think it was added last Qcon if I'm correct.

[@AgentArcadia]

MrJuico1337 ohh shit cool. i figure it would be a very one-sided and snowball-y map, but it seemed quite the opposite. i wonder how well it was received by the community -- i know gimmicks like locked doors dont fit very well in competitive fpses

[@MrJuico1337]

Sho Minamimoto Can't tell you much about that, I'm not big into playing quake live duel but I've enjoyed the duels I've played on it and it's sure fun to watch! :)

[@szilardfineascovasa6144]

"I'm having a heart attack." I can relate to that. This think kept me glued to it and going a few seconds back to admire a frag too many times.

[@shaighan1]

WTF ingame sound is soooo low!!??

[@matthumphries]

best grand finals I've ever seen, bar none

[@ShockHRz]

Amazing match! Quake forever!

[@shaighan1]

most amazing finals ever!

[@Lynxtro]

Can someone explain why Rapha has a 1 point advantage at the start? New to QL :)

[@AlexeyFilippenkoPlummet]

It's a double elimination tournament, meaning that after losing to someone you go to the loser brackets. Evil lost to rapha and was climbing to the grand finals from losers bracket, while rapha didn't lose anything yet. There are different ways to resolve this on torunaments - sometimes the loser have to win 2xBO5 , but on QuakeCon they just give the winner brackets player a free win in the BO5.

[@meguy7735]

Best set of Quake period.

[@dudesome6969]

Do the players have show hit damage activated while playing? Also, can they see their opponents health bar?

[@duelnoobs3211]

They get an indication when they're doing damage, including how much they're doing, but they don't see how much health or armour their opponent has. They have to work out what the opponent has in their head (along with timing the items). When the opponent is weak they do let out screams which lets you know they're under a certain health threshold.

[@goldnutter412]

Much love DDK Long time no see wen come chat with BLAST or ESLCS ? bring smooya or sado please we love sado so much :(

[@toxa33rus]

15:38 это и была причина того что случилось. Эх если бы не эти 2 сек.

[@toxa33rus]

А главная причина это Agent! Пробухал всю ночь где-то. Без его поддержки Серега волновался.

[@romanraf4416]

xD

[@chtncns]

по подробнее)

[@toxa33rus]

Все пришли к Агенту на стрим, а он не явился потому что водку пил. Потом уже под конец на последнюю карту пришел в какашку пьяный. Ну и тайминги неправильно подсказывал ))) Во всем он виноват короче.

[@chtncns]

хренасе, а где же ответственность.. бросил на произвол судьбы. откуда подробности?

[@pomat22]

56:17 And thats where weapon change set to 5 in CPMA comes in handy ;D

[@zoulee2502]

who wants Quake Live back ?

[@kanuni1979]

why do they always mess up the sound? without hearing the player and the sound cues its literally unwatchable.

[@vegadsl9218]

whats the name of the first map?

[@pdevine999]

did I miss something or was that 2/2 ?

[@ivan-j4l9x]

looks like the first map wasn't recorded unfortunately.

[@Mr_Jombles]

Rapha won his bracket so he starts the final with 1 point so it's as if he already won a map.

[@shapevader9311]

\Rapha gets the first map free for being in the winning bracket or some shit like that, its a really wierd way to do it.

[@pdevine999]

That's a first right , never seen that before , considering how close it was Evil probably feels cheated

[@snapphanen]

+Paul Devine they do it on dota 2 TI. But i cant remember quake doing it that often

[@fragmentalstew]

Does anyone know what "|]" is? Rapha posts it in chat once or twice.

[@koffe-]

it's a smiley

[@REA987]

Well, I can clearly say if Quake Live was association football Rapha would be Italy and Evil would be The Netherlands. Watching Evil's play and rail connections is lovely but at the end defense gets the title as Rapha did most of the times. Rapha deserved the championship but that does not stop me enjoying Evil'e play much more.

[@StupendousMand]

If someone failed to understand the meaning, Italy is playing defensive long ball crap, where The Netherlands is playing offensive football. Rapha is defensive, running and hiding all the time, where Evil is more like The Netherlands, attacking like a boss.