Qualities Of A Leader | IHOPKC Update from Kurt Fuller

[@mayflowerson1]

The problem with the church has been Advancing gifting instead of character

[@christianwoudenberg3393]

Preach.

[@burningheartsministriesmis1488]

Correct! The Lord is definitely more concerned with our character than our giftings.

[@JesusChrist-n9k]

Amen. By all means, the gifts can still be used. But you just can't lead if you dont have the character as outlined in 1 Tim, 2 Tim or Titus.

[@thesaintscorner]

I love Kurt Fuller met him not too long ago. Love IHOP KC ever person I’ve ever met who has led in the prayer room Carries a real anointing to dwell in the presence of God and bring forth an atmosphere of His presence. I pray you guys persevere and continue to carry that anointing

[@jeffhoover6932]

I miss mike and his teachings. He is a great teacher and loves Jesus.

[@m-drafts]

I wish Mike could continue to teach us. That’s my prayer to God. I am so grateful to Mike’s past teachings. He has inspired me to love Jesus more than any other teacher. He is such a treasure to the body of Christ. He is such a faithful servant of God. He is a true lover of God. He has a beautiful heart. God will vindicate him one day. I honor him and I thank him very very much. I really wish he could continue to teach us, because then we will be inspired by him to love Jesus more. He really lives out the first commandment and his teachings are the best.

[@andremalan4089]

Agreed - when Jesus defined this type of sin in Matthew 6, he effectively prevented those now standing in judgement of Mike, of being able to do so righteously. The most effective solution may just be to move back to smaller congregations and house churches, as that prevents anyone from being elevated to a level where they become a target whose fall affects so many people.

[@lionjudah8900]

Yes, get Mike back so he can access more young women!

[@altarwork]

Mike literally told girls that God told him that his wife was going to die soon and that he was to marry the girls. And you want him teaching you???

[@s.c.i.7506]

Purity would be another characteristic needed.

[@kg3185]

We get purity from Jesus. Romans 3:23-24. 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.

[@Tendervittle]

No it going to happen

[@iLikeBeans481]

One thing is to fall short and still be saved, another is to be disqualified from Pastoral leading according to the Bible yet being saved. Mike can repent but if he is truly repentant he needs to step down

[@jesusislord3810]

I miss Pastor Mike sermon. Every friday I tune in just to hear his sermon. I've been following Ihopkc, for 12 years. I pray Pastor Mike will return back to preach in Jesus name!!

[@FINDINGTRUTH47]

@@babayaga4783 ? Not sure why you are mocking me friend. I'm saying our prayers should not be against God's will. When we pray for things that go against God's will, we are going against God.

[@themamachar]

Yes I agree

[@lionjudah8900]

Yes, get Mike back so he can access more young women!

[@SieNoel]

I got a target painted on my back when I was staff for saying things similar to what Mr Fuller said in this video, and ultimately was pushed off staff for it (only after first being subjected to 2 years of constantly arbitrarily moving goal posts for what would allow me to keep my job). I'd be open to discussing this experience with you, Fuller. Surely it would be valuable insight as many of those who did this to me are still with the organization and some have, as I hear it, recently been put into positions of great authority... Maybe not the best move.

[@tmhunarden1]

Sorry that happened to you! What Mr. Fuller said is spot on!

[@emmaschanuth2958]

I would suggest meeting with Mr. FULLER. And share your experience. Get some prayer for healing , if you have not. I UNDERSTAND being Hurt in a ministry. So Please dont let this past experience, keep you from growing in your gifts and relationship with the Lord. God Bless you, and I am so sorry for your bad experience. The Lord Is FAITHFUL, praying ALL the darkness is Exposed

[@SieNoel]

@@emmaschanuth2958 I'm open to it, if Fuller will lend me some of his time and attention. If the plan they make going forward doesn't want to suffer a selection issue/survivorshio bias, talking with people like me who are actually willing to dialogue needs to be a part of the process or they will not be truly fixing their issues.

[@faithmatthews830]

Everything that can be shaken will be shaken.

[@themamachar]

I will always believe that Mike is a very good and godly man. I miss his teaching.

[@babayaga4783]

I believe so as well. I believe his personal statement. Everyone stumbles, no one is perfect but that’s why we need God!

[@babayaga4783]

@@busterbarlow9094 but how do you know this is true? It has not been proven and the findings have not been complete. I know it is quite a shocking claim and you might think that the alleged victim has no reason to lie but that really just, well doesn’t prove anything. Everything is super uncertain right now and I just don’t see why we should treat that accusation as a state of fact when it really could not be further from the truth. It could be true, it could be false,

[@busterbarlow9094]

@fredkornis793 it is very important of us to not know the person. Many traumatic things can happen from nit jobs who are blinded by their feelings for Mike. What difference does it make to you if you know who Jane Doe is? Mike himself has said some of it is true. Why are so many people just wanting to sweep what he has done under the rug in the name of forgiveness? There is accountability even when forgivin. Leaders are held to a highet standard and that is biblical. The bible is black and white about it, not vague.

[@thismoment.intime]

The allegations against him were presented to IHOPKC leaders on Oct. 24 by former leaders Dwayne Roberts, Wes Martin and Brian Kim. IHOPKC has identified five of eight alleged victims. Three of those five have publicly called the allegations lies, (read that slowly one more time) …a fourth has not wanted to communicate with IHOPKC’s attorney, and the fifth’s allegations relate to incidents that preceded IHOP founding 26 years ago. ​@@busterbarlow9094

[@jakemelliot]

Just because you believe this about Mike - does not mean your beliefs are right. Mike is a false prophet - a wolf in sheep's clothing. He uses false prophecy to manipulate an abuse people.

[@kenmorse2488]

Does it match 1 Tim 3:2-7? Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full[a] respect. (If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?) He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap.

[@anthonywalker405]

I miss Mike. I too don’t care what happened 26 years ago. He helped me love God and others with all my heart, like no one else did.

[@Tendervittle]

I love how you minimize this disaster

[@HeavenBound16]

Touche

[@lionjudah8900]

Yes, get Mike back so he can access more young women!

[@joyg7575]

You might not care, but I'm sure the victims DO care. He has disqualified himself for a leadership position of any kind.

[@alicefu7403]

我不在乎毕迈克牧师这些围绕着他的不好的言论！我期待他回到教会，回到我们当中！❤ 他是一个很会教导的牧师！好牧师！

[@Caderdi]

I'm just going to say it...I miss Mike. I miss his teachings. I don't give a flip what he did 26 years ago. He helped me to love God like no one else could.

[@sharonhunt3881]

THANK YOU!!! Thank you for saying that!!!! I agree 100%!! I’d sit in his back yard in the cold if he preached from his porch!!! His teaching changed my life and taught me to love God! To pray!! To have hope in the Lord!!!!

[@themamachar]

I agree

[@AviyahAbides]

I Agree with the original comment

[@isabellezionchipochaishe7103]

@@ResurrectionLifeMin I am sooo confused as to why y'all people making these comments aren't showing your real names though on your accounts. This has ALL been sooo very confusing especially for us watching from the sidelines because for starters while I understand where y'all are coming from this behavior doesn't come across as Godlike at all, just saying! Show your real names and faces on your accounts because this definitely ain't it.

[@aceapollos]

​@@ResurrectionLifeMinMay what you say about others come true of you.

[@susanneengel-schuster]

Maybe it's only a " little" thing, that the whole church has to learn: the fear of the Lord and having a right heart. We can't learn this through teaching and a lot of training.

[@babayaga4783]

We want Mike back! Everyday shows that the advocate group are fueled by accusation (the recent statement by Misty).

[@tslavens3092]

What if it was your daughter that was groomed?

[@jillhill7383]

Who is Misty? What did she say and where did she say it? Thanks!

[@LittleCreek30]

And did you happen to read Dwayne Roberts response? There’s two sides to every story. Just because “Misty the blameless,” said it doesn’t mean it’s the full truth and motive. When we put people on a pedestal we can easily be misled. There are a lot of trustworthy people here at Ihop giving their stories and if it’s all true then Mike not only did these things 26 years ago but has been doing things as of recent. It’s best we wait for the unveiling than to assume Misty is the answer.

[@babayaga4783]

@@LittleCreek30 maybe, but he’s saying the same things he been saying. Can’t trust him

[@babayaga4783]

@@LittleCreek30 also, look at Eric volz response to dwayne….

[@nathanielmacelroy1988]

Jesus spoke directly about sheep without a good shepherd.. Paul wrote specifically about those seeking to govern the body of Christ. The gospel is the guide all the way through and the only way to move forward on a solid foundation. I want this generation to follow like the disciples Peter Paul James John even in disagreement show honor and humility leading to clarity of what the Holy Spirit wants in accordance with the will of God…Jesus whole mission fulfill. This is the Church. Sacred. Holy and solely devoted to Jesus’s teaching…

[@bud8883]

Dear Almighty Father God, through you we have strength, allow us to be content in every situation, good, bad, or ugly (Ph 4: 12-13), allow us to be of one spirit and and of one mind, valuing others above ourselves, and looking out for one another (Ph 2: 2-4), allow us to sow to please the Spirit, so we may have eternal life (Ga 6: 8). "Let us not become weary of doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up ... let us do good to all people, especially those who belong to the family of believers" (Ga 6: 9-10).

[@MaximumLivingNow]

Idolatry produces spiritual blindness & renders one incapable of discernment….

[@burningheartsministriesmis1488]

Blessings and healing ❤️‍🩹

[@Keptbygrace]

The enemy cannot steal our worship towards our Savior Jesus'Christ. God took all lies all secrets away and Its time to look or focus on truth. God has seen but I pray for ministries in these days to be refreshed& aware to stand stronger and go harder for Christ. I pray for healing

[@mayflowerson1]

The Anointing is Holy Spirit influence on your life. Character is the RESULT, or FRUIT of HIS presence in your life. Ie. The FRUIT of the Spirit versus the gifts of the spirit.

[@dorrycoffee1001]

Where is the heart and the passion

[@i2sky532]

Prioritizing heart and passion, in the absence of training and discipline is how we ended up here.

[@Tendervittle]

@@i2sky532lazy Christians love to have their ears tickled. Fantasy land

[@ysl2130]

I miss Mike!!!!!!!

[@andywilson6890]

Well that was a wasted few minutes of absolutely nothing said.

[@dolphinitely_bro3944]

I cant help but feel the viewers of this “church” also love kenneth copeland

[@joanfrauenfelder3594]

Miss Mike, the only perfect man was Jesus

[@laurie9993]

Dam I miss Mike/Diane too ❤

[@Tendervittle]

Wowzer

[@davidburris6237]

Give me Mike. Y’all can have the baggage that the accusers of Mike have placed on your backs.

[@christianwoudenberg3393]

You can have him, but it’d be a joke in terms of biblical standards, process and Mike’s own prophetic revelation on integrity standards required for prophetic leaders in this movement.

[@davidburris6237]

@@christianwoudenberg3393 So, do you meet up to the perfection standard? James 2:10 (NASB95): For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all. Or maybe you haven’t read all of the Bible yet.

[@Maxime-c4o]

Bon courage les amis ,c'est une Benidiction de voir ce nouveau Diregeant parmi vous ,je vous souhaite le meilleur....Que le Seigneur avec son Esprit Saint vient en aide à son peuple dans ces moments difficiles ,c'est dans la tranquillité et le repos que sera vôtre salut . C'est ainsi à parlé le Seigneur, l'Eternel.

[@donkoh5738]

This is all sounding rational et al, on face value... but my question is: in a corporate church apparently as this one, are the board of directors and exec chair paid a salary or compensation plan? If so, how much in total for all compensation and expenses, etc.? Is there any annual itemized financial report released to public for transparency? I personally just enjoy listening to the 24 hr Worship music room, but wouldn't mind eventually giving a donation once and awhile to the church... but would wish to 1st look at the books of such a mega-organization before giving any sort of donation.

[@docbarm3338]

@@SieNoelWas here to say this. Thank you. I hope others understand how serious this is. Hiding information anyone?

[@telewired]

They are paid ZERO money---all live on support like YWAM....

[@willhaak1]

Don’t you think it’s very convenient for this accusation to come up now? After the first Gentile led 21+ days fasting and prayer of Israel has been boldly called by Mike. This rush to justice. Less the 90 days to touch Gods anointed and ruin life’s. First a 20 plus’s years ago.On accusations that were no evidence as ever produced. It’s a scam. They pinned everything in 90 days on Mike with zero court admissible evidence. Zero no faces names; photographs. Yes or no can you proove he has sex with anyone but is wife? The answer is no. It all here say. So what’s being covered up? Who’s grabbing the crown? Where’s the gold and power going.? Don't you think it's very convenient for this accusation to come up now, after the first Gentile led 21+ days of fasting and prayer for Israel, which Mike boldly called for? This rush to judgment could potentially ruin lives within less than 90 days of touching God's anointed. First, these accusations were made over 20 years ago, and no evidence has ever been produced. It seems like a scam. They are pinning everything on Mike within 90 days, without any court-admissible evidence. There are no faces, names, or photographs. Can you prove that he had sex with anyone other than his wife? The answer is no. It's all hearsay. So, what is being covered up? Who is trying to seize the crown? Where is the gold and power going?

[@willhaak1]

@@SieNoelno one should be involved with the IRS as a church. That gives them the right to block content.

[@SieNoel]

@@willhaak1 all you've just told me is that you don't understand what a form 990 is or why it exists.

[@SeedKreations]

we need a balance of all ministries. apostles, prophets, teachers, pastors, evangelists.

[@laurarobinson9423]

Absolutely Right👍

[@burningheartsministriesmis1488]

Rev 3:15-19 this is the church age we’re in..

[@patbrett3031]

How about a calling from the Lord? Would that not be helpful?

[@i2sky532]

Spot on.

[@TheDeliveranceLifestyle]

Deliverance should also be incorporated as a function of the church services. It is a vital part of Jesus' ministry.

[@jeffnasta4650]

Holiness

[@sheilaboland6285]

I guess I am naive or just do not want to admit that MB could be all the descriptions in the letter that Dwayne and 7 others ascribed to him. And than there are the voices saying similar words to the effect that they never saw him do any of those things since he was in the prayer room for x amount of hours. And if he did all those things why his wife didn’t leave him. Just so many unanswered questions. 😢

[@thesnootyfox]

This is all well and good, but the #1 requirement has to be called by God to the position. Otherwise you’re just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

[@marksnyder110]

Full of The Holy Spirit too

[@robertthompson9643]

"Many are called, but few are chosen." Lots of people claim to be called by God for something, so you have to do the tests he mentioned to find out who has actually been chosen. Especially for positions at the top. No one ever says they have been called by God to clean toilets.

[@josephreed8729]

I am more concern about Pastor Mike’s investigation. Having the general address the body did nothing for me. Just my thought.

[@willhaak1]

He was railroaded. Don’t you think it’s very convenient for this accusation to come up now? After the first Gentile led 21+ days fasting and prayer of Israel has been boldly called by Mike. This rush to justice. Less the 90 days to touch Gods anointed and ruin life’s. First a 20 plus’s years ago.On accusations that were no evidence as ever produced. It’s a scam. They pinned everything in 90 days on Mike with zero court admissible evidence. Zero no faces names; photographs. Yes or no can you proove he has sex with anyone but is wife? The answer is no. It all here say. So what’s being covered up? Who’s grabbing the crown? Where’s the gold and power going.? Don't you think it's very convenient for this accusation to come up now, after the first Gentile led 21+ days of fasting and prayer for Israel, which Mike boldly called for? This rush to judgment could potentially ruin lives within less than 90 days of touching God's anointed. First, these accusations were made over 20 years ago, and no evidence has ever been produced. It seems like a scam. They are pinning everything on Mike within 90 days, without any court-admissible evidence. There are no faces, names, or photographs. Can you prove that he had sex with anyone other than his wife? The answer is no. It's all hearsay. So, what is being covered up? Who is trying to seize the crown? Where is the gold and power going?

[@laurarobinson9423]

DELIVERANCE needed....Reinstate Tim/Olga Erickson in a POWERFUL WAY please for EVERYONE as well as Highlight POH Intensives!!! From 4 year olds to 94 year olds... We ALL need SAVED DELIVERED HEALED and FREE!!!

[@glenngarland9707]

Evolve is not the best choice of words. Words matter is crisis: mature, develop, grow, establish, correct, reform or transform is better. Great speech otherwise. I think Stuart said it best when he said there is not a book written on how to deal with such a crisis.

[@bobharms8787]

Do you love Jesus do you love this church by supporting and attending this church. Do you know the doctrine of this church you attend.? My observation is there is a culture of prayer before the Lord of hosts. We are talking angels there and one should walk softly believing and confessing what they do not understand, and have no sphere of influence,,, Jesus is Lord

[@Kk-T-M]

People don't understand that an anointment for God in service of Him and a personal relationship are 2 different things, yes in service like King Shaul this happened, he failed in a personal relationship with God and later God took his anointment away because Shaul misused it. When you don't take care of your personal relationship with God and embrace your anointment as your ministry that is powered by God's mission, that makes you fall. First personal relationship and after that ministry that is empowered by God. Leadership is raised by God and taken by God like Nebugadnessar did fall. There are a lot of examples in the Bible from this.

[@matthewb252able]

Praise God!

[@patriciahunt3663]

Offshoot the Prayer House. Make little fires throughout Kansas City. They will spread and be even more impactful. God loves multiplication. I'm sure that this is happening on some level there. 🙂🙏💜

[@rihraw]

Why not just call him Kurt. He isnt in the military or he is?

[@sheilaboland6285]

Nimb, you are like God? Knowing what ppl will do?😢

[@denali9643]

Reminds me of the damaging shrapnel of a brutal divorce while the traumatized children, who love their mom and dad, are told blah blah blah lawyer speak about visitations and restraints designed for their good. Instead of a lifetime of healing seeking, how about dad comes clean.

[@faithmatthews830]

Everything that can be shaken will be shaken.