Quality Creep

[@greguevarart]

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[@strangu5341]

Ok Lil bro

[@rchergarrett]

I'm vulnerable only to cool charts, Villain! Retain a significant space for e f f o r t - l e s s output!

[@seventeenraccoonsinatrenchcoat]

congrats on coming out as straight

[@marshallmkerr]

it certainly takes courage

[@BratacOfChulak]

Very brave

[@micahrobbins8353]

Quality creep was my nickname back in college

[@buckeru5807]

I think a good example of quality creep is Jaiden Animations. She started animating everything herself but today she has a huge team helping, the animations look great and she still uploads once a month.

[@francisco26316]

I admire you so much Greg I know it sounds weird coming from a strange person online you know nothing about but from what you show on the internet, I really appreciate your art and your talks like this

[@maclucy846]

+1

[@alana.4432]

@@maclucy846 +2

[@alfred8936]

Time to embrace my "it's bad on purpose" arc

[@gatergates8813]

That's the Punk approach

[@abigguy354]

you'll end up making YIIK

[@uncouver]

Worst housing crisis in history and this guy has rooms in abundance?! What's next Greg? A silver Gelandewagen?

[@Andre-qo5ek]

thought this was going to be a play on words. .. about being a Creep... but in a "quality" way... but then i realized this was Greg and not Jreg. 👍

[@ForlornFoundry]

I still cry over the end of Confinement 😢 Literally the series that inspired me to start my youtube journey

[@droko9]

If it helps, I literally didn't look at this video. I played factorio with this as background entertainment

[@latchkeyTK]

Just so you know, I didn't even read your comment. I just dropped a like because you played factorio and I like that

[@taatuu25]

@@latchkeyTK how did you know it was about factorio then

[@latchkeyTK]

@@taatuu25 i skipped all the part until "i played factorio" and dropped a like

[@fraseris1]

quality creep can lead to some really great stuff, but i think so often people lose touch with the soul or charm of their work while trying to improve the simple aesthetic quality of what they're making. many such cases

[@ilexdiapason]

this isn't bisexual lighting - bisexual lighting requires pink/magenta on one side and blue on the other, this is just purple

[@crazygreek6341]

it's the lighting after bi sexual sex

[@absyntheproductions3330]

After 10 years, Welcome to hell finally came out with a sequel because the creater gave up and finally released a video that was equally as unfinished as the original. I’m just happy that it’s out

[@cookingwithsilence]

Putting your microphone inside of a box with a fragile sticker on it is actually a really easy way to leave yourself vulnerable to data breaches......

[@cookingwithsilence]

data bitches*

[@cookingwithsilence]

britches*

[@v4603]

the lighting was worth the wait tbf

[@squarrot9355]

He looks angelic

[@alana.4432]

@@squarrot9355 He looks bi

[@soakupthenoise]

this isn't bisexual lighting, this is just magenta. bisexual lighting creep if you will

[@TheZatzman]

🎶But I'm a quality creep, I'm a quality weirdoooooo, what the hell am I doing here?? I don't belong here🎶 (but for real, this is something I struggle with - the balance between wanting to improve at your craft/quality improvement vs. getting bogged down in perfectionism/overthinking/etc as the bar rises - I think as one iterates on their own process, they get better at identifying where they're at and how to work through it)

[@Agabalio]

Love to see you here! Really liked your last video, helped a lot a friend of mine. Hope you can strike the balance between quality control and sanity/well being while producing your videos ;)

[@happi-x8y]

jokes from the dopamine detox video still live rent free in my head, you are the real quality creep

[@TheZatzman]

@@Agabalio thanks! glad it helped your friend :)

[@buckeru5807]

Just last month I missed the deadline for an art contest, I spent every minute of free time I had after my 9 to 5 making this sculpture 60+ hours of work and by the end I didn't achieve the quality I wanted nor delivered on time. They ended up accepting my late submission but they didn't have to, this was super frustrating and is just one example of my perfectionism holding me back. Being a perfectionist is great when you have all the time in world, but that's not reality.

[@kittokattxx]

a pretty good example of a webseries with a team of people working on it is alan becker's animator vs animation. the quality has scaled up over time and there is often months between uploads but the animations are long + high quality and it seems to be scaling well, doesn't show signs of stopping anytime soon

[@ConcernedAlien]

What happened to Noah Antwiler is probably a worst-case scenario for what quality creep can do to a content creator- they hold themselves to a standard they can't realistically meet every time, causing an already unwell brain to become even more unwell and eventually break and be unable to really produce anything. Maybe that lets him off the hook too easily, but quality creep sounds like something that could have played a part in it.

[@pizzatime42]

You spelled your last name wrong in the sponsor link lol-- it should be /gregguevara Also as a bi guy it did not occur to me that your lighting was bisexual, but I'm glad that was your first thought

[@marshallmkerr]

Yeah, I'm 72 and bi and this was my first clue there's a distinctive lighting atmosphere I was supposed to be using all these years. One place I lived I had blue LED Christmas lights strung around the corners of the ceiling in the living room; but I always assumed that was more about the cannabis use, than the sex identity.

[@detoneVT]

this feels close to a concept I was expressing not long ago called satisfaction creep. the same thing from the other side of the coin where the baseline quality of the entertainment you want to absorb gets higher and higher until what would have satiated you in the past can no longer keep up.

[@l.36125]

ooh like the hedonistic treadmill but for media

[@ilexdiapason]

i keep my standards low by never watching/reading real books and tv, only youtube series made in minecraft and fanfiction

[@nothing-2-live-4]

Go look up that project the Ren and Stimpy guy made about an unlabeled can of food. Raised a buttload of crowd sourced money and then released a product that was like 40% finished with a lot of the animation frames still in the stages where they’re just outlines with notes on them.

[@beanpasteposts]

John K is the Lee Mavers of animation.

[@burridi]

I havent been able to put into words that feeling, but you described it exactly. The fallacy of “it could just be a little bit better…”

[@JollyWangcore]

Jreg where was this video two years ago buddy. Really could have used it back then.

[@timisontube]

Jolly straight ally Confirmed ☑️

[@timisontube]

Jolly on straight allyship committee confirmed

[@timisontube]

Jolly straight Jreg alliance confirmed etc etc

[@timisontube]

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[@HumanTooth]

the casual backdrop of the video really helps the points come across as authentic and sincere, instead of some planned out robotic thing. Comically, not worrying about it improved the effectiveness of the video as a whole. i may have misinterpreted the point

[@ironichoneybadger5066]

I really appreciate how applicable this is even outside of art. I'm in engineering, and for the record, I do feel like engineering is a form of art, but I think it's really cool how your advice is just as useful to people in our position as it is for people in internet creation spaces.

[@kaisalmon1646]

I really enjoyed listening to this on my headphones with my screen off. I wonder what the background he kept talking about looked like.... but not enough to go check

[@qwertyuioph]

did you hear about the end of confinement? i feel like if you heard about it you wouldn't have been willing to bring it up (i cant link it here because its soft (like a pillow) core (like an apple) corn (like pmaize))

[@jabuz_pas9459]

It's 3 am where i live and i watched the whole thing and it was totally worth it. I couldn't put a word on that phenomenon thanks Jreg

[@NosnalemNaej]

I'm pro quality creep. The best example is Mikhail Bulgakov, who spent his whole life writing and perfecting ONE novel, and he never released it. After his death, his notes were collected and used for publishing. This is how we got The Master and Margarita. It's a masterpiece, maybe one of the best novels I ever read. It's a level of quality you almost never see. I wish there was an organization who could finance quality creep like that. They would say "Greg, you're talented. You're creative. We're paying you a decent salary for the rest of your life to work on ONE masterpiece. You don't even have to release it while you're alive. Just make sure we can release it after you pass away." If they did that with enough people over generations, at the beginning there would be nothing, but at some point they would generate the best of human creativity.

[@tamaglitchy]

I'm going through quality creep on my own webcomic right now and, yeah. The question of whether I should be spending at least part of my time on not-so-niche projects instead keeps hanging over me like a bad sword of damocles. I still don't have the answer but thank you mr jay reg

[@throwawayhandle1000]

This hits like a SMMA bro video and I mean that in the most positive way possible.

[@shodanxx]

programmers know about this, scope creep business people shut that down, that's why everything they do is so crap but it's good value

[@beardannyboy]

Huh, did not expect a tangent about OotS today. I think that's the first time I've ever encountered a reference to it outside of tabletop circles. You gain a surprise round.

[@SatanicJamnic]

Me thinkin more like bi. I mean, no gay but 20 bucks is 20 bucks

[@milkman6218]

Sometimes quality creep can LOWER the quality of something, usually when the project is taking a bunch of premade assets and making something new like sprites or old footage for example. Eventually the person who makes it wants to show off their actual skill which usually doesn't fit with the style of what they're making and can take you out of it.

[@justadude4938]

A lot of series I see fall to quality creep are comedy series too, and I think part of it is they want to stay just as funny, but they slowly run out of jokes. If you have a set cast of characters, and a setting, there are some really easy, really funny jokes you can make with that cast and that setting. Eventually you slowly run through those easy jokes, and you've got to start digging deeper to think of funny things. In those cases, I think people should just end the series. Accept that they've gone through 90% of the good jokes their art, and instead of spending a month trying to figure out what another funny joke will be, just start fresh with new characters and a new setting. Like instead of trying to dig out every possible bit of ore from a mine, accept that it's now much easier to just set up a new mine on a fresh site.

[@plushloler]

0:05 but homoromantic?

[@OmegaFalcon]

A big part of the appeal for my series is how good the animation is for the software it's created in. I once calculated it would take me like 10 years to finish it at the quality I'm aiming for at the rate I was going, so instead I've made no progress. I can't commit to that lmao. Looking into ways I can animate faster tho

[@blue4669]

The only thing between you and your goals is time and effort, and time passes anyways.

[@aristotlesimone4773]

Quantity over Quality until better Quality average -Aristorle Simone

[@Nathanatos22]

The concern about the visuals is always funny to me, given that I listen to most videos in the background like a podcast

[@yawn5150]

Oh, introspection on art

[@__-be1gk]

Egg I want you to know that I looked at the purple lighting for about half a second and immediately stopped caring about it, and that the purple lights had no bearing whatsoever on why I clicked the video

[@elisalikesbread]

i have a bunch of big project ideas i want to start, this video came at a good time lol

[@colebrookslyon]

order of the stick mentioned, backstory comics are some of the best out there

[@saikgamingproductions]

we are alike

[@MushroomSnake2077]

Man I gotta go rewatch confinement

[@toast1612]

this is a good shot i wish the camera quality was like 1000x lower tho thats just me. things are better when they’re worse

[@GnatHuman]

1:41 Wait what's your main channel?

[@anthonyhu6705]

This is actuaaly just what happened to madness combat

[@qaztim11]

Having an edited add read on this video is just *chefs kiss*

[@TimRidleyArt]

It's good to sketch out a plan or idea of what you're trying to make. For a video, it's a rough outline with key points (that's what I do anyway). For a painting, it's a little thumbnail sketch of the overall idea. Once you've communicated that, clean it up (don't spend too much time) and ship it out. Move onto the next thing.

[@theresalwaysanotherway3996]

sounds a lot like "little joel" a month ago, and "pyro live" right now, and every other 2nd channel from a successful youtuber. For some reason youtubers always get surprised when their 2nd channels get popular, and end up quality creeping. Although in classic Jreg style this one is a lot more introspective.

[@FinalGirlStudios]

I think I’d trust what you were saying more if you started smoking cigarettes in your videos

[@Buckleupbucko]

Okay, art unc. I’ll give it a try

[@soar_on]

guy waited a week to yap, just do it in like the middle of a forest that would add to the schiz vibe anywyas

[@qualia765]

video about quality creep and Homestuck not mentioned? SAD! fr tho, ive found that my favorite KZbinrs just narrate over static powerpoints or drawings in MS paint.

[@soupisfornoobs4081]

What's the opposite of quality creep where it gets worse? /inflammatory /bait

[@qualia765]

@@soupisfornoobs4081 lmao hubris creep maybe idk

[@nothing-2-live-4]

lol you misspelled your own sponsor link. talk about quality assurance.

[@baltasarnibir9561]

you've taken jrooms lately?

[@tysonbrinacombe]

why is we're in hell abusing sex workers?

[@Kamarovsky_KCM]

It's been years since you've started making this kind of "normal" content, and yet I still somehow feel like it's all a bit. All just satire. How do I cure this affliction?

[@doomscrollpodcast]

We’re here for the yapping about art 🫡

[@TreetopTreaties]

Me too