Quantum Leap In OLED: FSI's NEW Quantum Dot OLED 2000nit Pro Display

[@Mixinglight]

If you want to learn more about QD-OLED and how quantum dots work,then click through to this video's home page on Mixing Light. We've linked to a variety of additional resources: mixinglight.com/color-grading-tutorials/fsi-announces-industry-first-quantum-dot-oled-mastering-display/

[@stopthefomo]

Awesome interview, but of course, it will be sold out like the other FSI HDR monitors!

[@Mixinglight]

Heh. Let's hope so! Then maybe Samsung Displays will deliver smaller sizes to our market as well. But yeah, FOMO indeed 🙂

[@mrfroopy]

I would like a 27 of this

[@aaronhinton92]

Do these have a glossy or matte finish?

[@Izquierda]

This is the same panel as on the Samsung consumer QD-OLED TVs... They may be pushing it a bit harder and of course they're adding professional features, but that's far, far from justifying the asking price. And who wants to strain their neck mastering on a 55'' beast? It'd make for a nice presentation monitor but at that point you can just get the TV with the same panel and calibrate it as best as you can.

[@robtrombino8943]

Thank you Patrick for publishing this. So the skeptic in me has to ask . . . What window size is the 2000 nit peak measured at, and what about auto dimming? And last, and most obvious, what about burn-in? Cheers ❤🎬🎥🎞🎨

[@geoffreybassett6741]

I'm curious at what screen size in can maintain 1000nits. If it's more than 25% I think this could be very useful long term. Very excited about this tech.

[@patrickinhofer456]

Rob - it's 2,000nits @ L20 patch. Like most OLED technology, 100% white screen drops output to the 200nit-300nit range. Bram had mentioned to me what they've measured on this new XMP550 with white at 100% and I think it was in the upper end of that range (I think). It won't autodim but as more pixels on-screen are asked to drive 100% white then the panel will start dimming down naturally due to the power draw requirements. Regarding burn-in, apparently QD-OLED is MUCH less susceptible to burn-in. And if you do see burnin, there's a mode for refreshing the OLED layer. I wish we had discussed this in the video, but Samsung is using a 3-layer blue OLED base that helps reduce burn-in and eliminates stuck pixels as the 2nd and 3rd OLED layers are redundant. If the primary layer has a stuck pixel, one of the other layers can replace it - helping 2x-3x the yeilds on these displays. It's nifty. But Bram was clear, you CAN abuse these panels and force burnin but it's far less likely to happen accidentally in a professional setting than other OLED technologies. HTH

[@Shopfsi]

Loading behavior specifications are detailed with a fair bit of specificity on the tech specs page of our site. But putting things simply this has less loading behavior for 1000nit mastering than several other pro OLEDs that have been used extensively for professional HDR grading to date. Everyone is welcome to email us if they have questions on this or other topics, but Bram also posted a fairly detailed response to this question with some other good points to keep in mind over on MixingLight so we’d encourage members to go check that out.

[@robtrombino8943]

@@patrickinhofer456 Thank you Patrick for the reply. Those specs look like what I was probably thinking and makes sense. I had heard they were releasing this tech in consumer OLED sets after CES, but not at this level of refinement that I’m aware of. The color volume at all luma levels, to me at least, is QD’s specialty, and I’ve been thoroughly enjoying a version of this on my Hisense QLED this year. I believe Flanders is definitely on the right track. Happy Grading to everyone 🎨

[@mrfroopy]

Just how bright do we need? I mean 2000 is more than enough

[@geoffreybassett6741]

I think your right, at a certain point brightness just hurts the viewer. I had a Proart that did 1600 and it was on the edge of hurting. I think 2000 is the limit, 4000 is overkill.

[@mrfroopy]

I don't stare at the sun either. It's like 8k tv..not necessary.

[@patrickinhofer456]

So most HDR delivery specifications calls for a max nit value of 4000 nits. The key to realize here is that you want to hit 4000 nits on *specular* image data while SIMULTANEOUSLY displaying pure black. THAT is what gives you a true High Dynamic Range 'look'. Dolby did a bunch of research on this about 8-12 years ago, which laid the foundation for what we're seeing today and they found 80% of their test subjects felt images looked most realistic when you had that level of simultaneous contrast; ~4000 nits with .0005nit black. But 4000 nit panels are so darn expensive at $30k-$45k that almost all delivery is graded to 1,000nits (often within a 4,000nit metadata container) - simply because exponentially more 1000nit reference displays are in professional color grading suites vs 4000nit displays. (NOTE: The HDR specification actually goes to 10,000nits but that's to accomodate outdoor displays) The intent is NEVER to drive the fullscreen image at 4000nits (or 1000nits). The 'sparkly bits' are intended to hit 1000 - 4000nits (higher is better for a more effective perceptual effect) with diffuse reflected white sitting around 200 nits. If you're creating a Dolby Vision master, there's even a setting for the colorist to define the content's 'diffuse white' nit level (~215nit) so that graphic white translates properly to lower nit values. I've never met a professional colorist who thought full screen white at 1000 nits (or brighter) is appropriate. In fact, if you look at how bits are allocated in the HDR specification, only about 10% of the image data are 'assigned' above 400nits. Translated into images, this means there's not enough code values for any kind of detail to live above 400nits - or you'll start getting posterization, solariation, and/or banding; and it'll look ugly. I think most pros grade full screen HDR white to the 200nit-300nit range. If you're doing this at home, I'd suggest you do the same. In sum, when you read that a mastering display can achieve 2000nits or 4000 nits, that's only for specular highlights. The fact than an OLED display can "only" achieve 300nits full screen white isn't a drawback. Heck, as mentioned in a few replies here, much brighter on full screen white and not only are the audience's eyes going to hurt, so is the colorist's eyes - and they're looking at those images much longer than the audience ever will. Enlightened self-interest should help protect the audience's eyes 🙂

[@Izquierda]

This is all correct of course, but there are advantages to having extra luminance headroom with higher sustained full screen brightness capabilities, primarily to be able to compensate for brightness loss when using black-frame insertion or other forms of flicker or strobing to reduce motion blur in these sample-and-hold displays, especially with a 60hz duty cycle to match 60fps or lower content. In the past mastering monitors had such a feature by default, by luck in the case of CRTs which still have the best motion clarity, and then since 2007 when Sony used BFI in their LCD BVMs, and then even better with their scanning RGB OLED panels. It was only around 5 years ago that even Sony stopped caring and the HX310 had no flicker options at all. Now the upcoming HX3110 will seemingly have it again, though sadly locked behind a license paywall.

[@ramoncastillo532]

@@geoffreybassett6741 the dolby standard is up to 10,000 but remember it doesn't have to be 10,000 in the whole monitor it could just be 10,000 in a single point and 500 on average

[@bushgreen260]

*What cooling does it have?"*

[@patrickinhofer456]

Passive. When I was in Atlanta the display was running that demo material for a few hours and when I touched the back of it, the panel was room temp. Bram said they added a metallic backing to assist with heat dissipation but even driving the panel hard with challenging material wasn't a problem, in his opinion. So if you're worried about fan noise...

[@bushgreen260]

@@patrickinhofer456 *I'm not worried about fan noise. I thought it would have a fan which I thought would be better.*

[@Mixinglight]

@@bushgreen260 IIRC - Bram said one of the reasons they could cool passively is that QD-OLED is *much* more power efficient, so less heat to dissipate.

[@Shopfsi]

The entire panel is backed by a graphite heat sink and there are metal heat dissipation layers as well including the chassis itself. The display does not generate anywhere near the heat of all of our previous HDR displays.