XMP310 - The BEST Grading Monitor in 2024? - Pro Colorist Test!

[@gioriv]

I 100% I'm not at the level of needing this reference monitor at all, not anytime soon. Probably never. All I can say is that seeing you so excited about your new purchase makes me happy and motivated. Your level of excitement shows how dedicated and passionate you are about your work. Congratulation and enjoy, great content as always.

[@DarrenMostyn]

Thanks. And yes you are right. You only need new kit when you know your business needs it. Ive waited years for this price point for reference level, dolby netflix etc compatible, grading monitor. Im glad you see the video as what it is - 10k monitor is not for everyone but my journey on youtube is just my side-line and im glad i can share real moments. Im happy to share - and im so pleased with the monitor too! Thanks for your kind words. All the best. Darren

[@samt9097]

It’s 10K?! I use my eyes as reference, thank you very much! 😅

[@WizardVal]

Me too. And perhaps 99% of the viewers would never get to the level when spending 10K for a piece of screen is a walk in a park. Sounds ridiculous already. And embarrassing.

[@DarrenMostyn]

@@WizardVal I understand that. I have to show some of the viewers here are also advanced - Try to give everyone something and I knew this video was not relevenat for a lot of people - still wanted to make it for those that need it. Thanks for your support, All the best, darren

[@WizardVal]

@@DarrenMostyn No hard feelings mate. I completely understand the joy and happiness when achieving this sort of a wealth level, the level of freedom to create having such power under the hood. It is just somehow hurting and is a bad vibe. Nothing personal, I know that this is part of your hard work and you didn't inherit this from your rich parents, yet it resonates badly as there are thousands of artists working hard nonetheless still struggling to provide simple needs to the families. However, nobody promised us anything before stepping into this world, right? I honestly very glad for you and wish you to create even better content as you truly deserve it. I am forever your subscriber!

[@PeterDrage]

It is lovely to see someone so happy and excited about their new purchase. Nice to see and know that it is a genuine review. Hope you enjoy your new workhorse, there is nothing better than using equipment you love in your day to day job.

[@DarrenMostyn]

Thank you so much! Im still smiling now and Ive had it nearly 3 weeks! Got a big broadcast documentary coming very soon - can't wait ! Client will love it!

[@tomdchi12]

Out of my budget range, but not by as big a multiple as monitors anywhere near this level used to be! Great to see someone enjoying a new tool!

[@gregnewland2651]

Me: "If Darren uses this, then I want it!" - Looks up price Me 10 seconds later: "I'm no Darren..."

[@DarrenMostyn]

Keep going - Ive been doing this for 18 years remember!! I started out on a second hand Sony BVM, then Panasonic PLASMA, Then the DM250 and now this one. Love your comment though!! Thanks !!

[@WizardVal]

That’s probably why Darren forgot to mention it’s price)

[@fullsend_irl]

@@DarrenMostyn what would you say is a second hand Sony BVM equivalent of today's age?

[@DarrenMostyn]

@@fullsend_irl a second hand Sony BVM or Flanders or EIZO. I just sold my DM250 second hand - someone just got a great monitor. Monitors of any quality new are more affordable now than when I started out as consumer/prosumer monitors were garbage.

[@joenicklo]

If you do this for a living, it's an investment into your career/business and your work. I personally can't justify it but I'd sure hope that if I'm hiring a colorist, they'd have a professional monitor similar to this.

[@joe_h_1775]

Love the content and the hilarious outtakes. I'm not at that level yet, but I know what monitor I will be getting, whatever is on Darren's desk. Thank you for the content.

[@DarrenMostyn]

Appreciated Joe! Just get the best monitor you can affiord. I have been running a post facility for 25 years - just get the best you can, and then when business gets busier upgrade and sell the old one, rinse and repeat! This is only my 4th Hero monitor upgrade in 18 years (slightly more on client monitors) but no rush. I get good life out of each generation as they generally 10-20K purchases. Wish you all the best.

[@saintsrown]

You're the color grading profissional we needed on KZbin.

[@DarrenMostyn]

Ive been colour grading since 2007! BBC, C4, ITV, Amazon, Netflix. Enjoying sharing my joourney with you all.

[@AJ_UK_LIVE]

Great review Darren. I hope you enjoy the new monitor, and the new and improved grading experience it will afford to you!

[@team2films]

It's great to see quality content on monitoring. Great job :)

[@phila8748]

Just ordered mine. supposed to get it May 1st. Congratulations Darren!!

[@ray.watts-35]

Thanks Darren, very interesting. Loved the outtakes too, hilarious!!

[@DarrenMostyn]

Glad you enjoyed them - Can't say I did at my end!!!

[@djvphotography]

I can't tell you how happy I am for you, Darren. I know how exciting it can be to get new equipment and have it exceed your expectations. Enjoy it.

[@DarrenMostyn]

Thanks so much! Im still smiling now!

[@marcwielage92]

Fantastic video -- I appreciate getting a glimpse into the "glamor" of post-production engineering!

[@DarrenMostyn]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@tacatube]

That's a beautiful tool and I am happy for you - thanks for sharing. I almost had at heart attack at 1:22, that was a two-people maneuver. Don't take chances, especially with a $10,000 monitor.

[@DarrenMostyn]

It only weighs 8.5 kg!

[@HeliopausePictures]

Congratulations! Nice (and very helpful) review. I look forward to owning one myself and this video will come in handy when I spring for it.

[@djordjek3916]

I am so glad you bought a new monitor. It's phenomenal. What I've also noticed is that the grade of the video looks awesome. Your skin is perfect. Did you use Stefan's DCTLs for skin and denser colors? 🙂I would really like to see HDR color grading workflow in one of your next videos, from setting project settings to actual grading and things we should pay attention to when grading HDR footage. Keep up the good work mate. 👍

[@DarrenMostyn]

Thanks - only a quick balance on this video as I had Mark come in to shot and balance against my A7S3. TBH - it was a very rough grade - I dont over think it for youtube videos. - I thought it looks pretty rough TBH! My usual videos are set in camera profiles so I dont have to grade at all.

[@wakkowarner8810]

I just finished watching this video and the monitor looks like it is even more awesome that I thought it would be. It’s super awesome to be able to get a reference monitor that can handle HDR for under $20,000. $11,000 is a steal considering that monitors like this used to cost more then $20,000.

[@DarrenMostyn]

No brainer for me! Good to hear from you.

[@Redsharknews]

I love this video!! Great to see the new monitor in use - AND outtakes were my personal favourite! 😂

[@DarrenMostyn]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@ScandinavianCoward]

So much joy and excitement!

[@samwisetaylor]

Hey sir! Loved the video. I think your closed captions may have sampled something other than the audio you meant for it to. Thanks for posting such great content. Its so helpful.

[@DarrenMostyn]

Thanks Sam. They have been corrected now! Appreciate the call out!!!

[@sergioporrascolorist]

Amazing Darren! Thank you very much! Finally a good option for a reasonable price! It’s going to be my next buy! ❤

[@senpera]

Lovely upgrade to your suite. Would love to see you uploading hdr videos and tutorials. IPad Pro here that I use for hdr grading. .)

[@DarrenMostyn]

Will do! second request today!

[@Coatsey007]

Love the outtakes Darren, I’m still grinning now.

[@DarrenMostyn]

cheers mate! Fillming is more fun when you have your friend filming it for you - we had fun making this one!

[@HonestLaborColor]

Thanks for reviewing. Looks great. Waiting on someone to do a side by side with the Sony BVM HX310. The fan noise on the HX310 drives me bananas (esp in HDR mode) I really just need the smallest excuse at this point to swap monitors. lol. Also couldn’t hurt that I’d be able to actually move the XMP310 all by myself. :)

[@DarrenMostyn]

and the viewing angle is insane! What are you waiting for ?

[@HonestLaborColor]

So tempting!

[@GForceVisuals]

I had the same annoying issue with the panel reflection in my x300. I actually put gaffers tape on my advanced panel and that did the trick! Highly recommend that!

[@Resolve_This]

Congrats, Darren 🎉. Your enthusiasm shines through. FSI could hire you as a salesman any day😂. Looking forward to seeing what you do with it.

[@DarrenMostyn]

Thanks Tony!! Loving it so far!! See you soon!

[@MrMrdazzab]

Super informative… thx Daryn

[@DarrenMostyn]

Glad it was helpful!

[@palettepr007]

Hey Darren!!!!!!! Thank you soo much for reviewing the monitor because I am looking to buy it but didn't find any review on it after release of the monitor. Now I am satisfied :D

[@DarrenMostyn]

Make your decision - This is an honest review and I paid for the monitor with my own money - so its not a sponsor plug.

[@palettepr007]

@@DarrenMostyn thanks man

[@guillemoliver]

Also ordered mine some weeks ago. After years with a Flanders DM240, I guess I'll be in shock and silent for a few seconds too... 😂 Thanks for the video Darren, it's an honest review. It's very fun to see your enjoyment! I think the XMP310 is a very relevant model. The price point of the previous Eizos or Sonys were 20 to 40K (and with an older technology...). QD-OLED seems very promising. I think it's going to become the new standard. Regards!

[@DarrenMostyn]

Glad you enjoyed it. Hope you are as pleased with yours as I am with mine!

[@guillemoliver]

I still have to wait some weeks to get mine delivered, but I'm sure I will be pleased! @@DarrenMostyn

[@DarrenMostyn]

@@guillemoliver happy you leave a comment here when you get yours and let us know your thoughts!

[@guillemoliver]

@@DarrenMostyn I still have to wait a little over a month, but sure! You can count on that.

[@guillemoliver]

Hi @@DarrenMostyn, as promised, these are my first impressions after unboxing my unit, I'll be short: I've never seen something like this, amazing uniformity, low reflectance, really INSANE angle of view... It's unbelievable.

[@jamied6166]

Very very nice! Great video! Have you noticed any Auto Brightness Limiting kicking in for larger bright areas? That was the only potentially bad thing I'd heard about it. Not an issue? I want one!

[@DarrenMostyn]

going to test further! I'll get back to you here.!

[@assassinator1900]

Also really interested in that regard! Thanks Darren

[@DarrenMostyn]

Hi @jamie6166 and @assassinator1900. So I have done some more testing and research for yoSo the QD OLED display on the XMP310 does have ABL of course - also reducing the need for Fans and cooling etc. Only monitor tech that doesn't have ABL is LMCL. The ABL kicks in only when larger areas of anything above 250 nits are used. Smaller areas up to 1000 nits can be used happily, showing 1000nits. XMP310 is displaying 1000nits tested on a L18 patch. On a L50 patch you still see 400 nits. Firstly, note that 1000 nits is not seen as twice as bright as 500 nits by your eye. 250 nits even is super-bright and Id expect that hardly ever used full screen in real world HDR grading. As most of the time you would be grading within the tolerances of the ABL NOT kicking in it shouldn't be an issue. Also, note that the viewing angle is exceptional on the XMP310 - this far outweighs any ABL worries. When and if it kicks in (never below 250 nits and only on large areas of excessive nits) it is relative to the whole image so you'll still get a good percieved idea of what the scene looks like. Im not an expert in HDR grading yet, but I intend to be VERY soon!! I hope that helps for now - Basically, don't overthink it! You'll never notice it under usual grading conditions and tolerances. All the best, Darren

[@jamied6166]

Thanks Darren, that's a super detailed reply, exactly the sort of thing we need! A whole other tutorial right there, much appreciated!

[@DarrenMostyn]

@@jamied6166 I promised I would!

[@JohnnyMotel99]

Black camera tape is pretty matte for the rear panel of the panel.

[@sauriak8286]

It seems that all you need is some good Rolling Stones ;) This monitor is gorgeous. Thanks for the 'live' review.

[@DarrenMostyn]

My pleasure!

[@sickhcivc]

Damn! That's some goals for when I grow up :D hey could you do a video on all your favourite effects and a short section on what each do?

[@DarrenMostyn]

kzbin.info/aero/PL6VNHhfsVYJaF_Hv-I23768MnVvHux1VE

[@mioulilovelife]

Man turns in to boy whatever age he is when he got a new toy! Congrats Darren, I can see how happy you are now!

[@DarrenMostyn]

very true!! I got excited openinig some new radio mics recently - imagine this one!!!

[@mioulilovelife]

Oh, man! Can't wait to see you sharing your new exprience! @@DarrenMostyn

[@Sagar_G_Sharma_ContentCreator]

Good to See you sir 🙂its been a while.

[@DarrenMostyn]

2024 has really been busy for me - trying my best to get more content out!!

[@lebrett2]

@darren to cut reflection of the back of your panel into the monitor, 2 inch black Gaffer Tape is your friend. That’s what I did with my Mini Panel.

[@DarrenMostyn]

Not needed now - The XMP 310 is not showing it at all! Thanks anyway!

[@TheVideocarelina]

Hi Darren, tuning in from Bogotá

[@joeymorelli2511]

Cheers Darren - nice review 🙏🏻 Use it in good health. Now I have to find $10 Grand for this 😅

[@whatthehell3935]

10 grand is crazy

[@joeymorelli2511]

@@whatthehell3935 $10 grand is fairly reasonable for a Flanders 4K HDR unit. Like DM said…tech support is second to none. Industry standard…period. This is the one the other companies will have to beat.

[@DarrenMostyn]

Actually I just checked and its now $10,995. Worth every cent.

[@andersistbesser]

11.000! Gear does not matter they said..🤣 in reality everything is pay to win.

[@FrankGlencairn]

LOL - I almost spit out my coffee, when I sow you propping up the monitor with old tapes, since mine is also sitting on some old Digibeta boxes - and I thought I'm the only one that does weird stuff like this. :D.

[@DarrenMostyn]

I cant believe I still have some of these tapes lying around! Have a look at other peoples monitors...Ive seen a fair few use old tapes for props!!

[@DarrenMostyn]

Vipin Abraham @vipinabraham - just read your comment that was in the live feed- really appreciated

[@JimRobinson-colors]

I have mixed emotions with this video - on the one hand, I am really happy for you and can feel the excitement in your voice and you're love for great gear. But then the other side of my feelings are like how I felt when I was in high school, when my buddies were buying new cars, and I still had a Volkswagen Beetle. We both got to drive and we both got to the same locations, but couldn't help feel a tiny bit envious. But glad you're happy. cheers

[@DarrenMostyn]

Thanks Jim. Wasn't meant as a flex - it is to keep you all on my journey. Ive been very patient with my HDR 4K purchase at this price point - The Asus is great, but HDMI and its huge and heavy and mini LED. It did me well for a few years whilst i waited for something like this. Also to share as I know a lot of industry buzz about this model as its 31". Im happy still - three weeks later!

[@cwichura]

Suggestion for a future video: make a deep dive on the remote control software and streamdeck configuration.

[@DarrenMostyn]

noted!

[@PeeGeeTips]

Great overview! I’m curious as to what timeframe you think that Netflix et al will move to 4000nit mastering though as some movies are being mastered to this standard already?

[@DarrenMostyn]

I can still master to 4000 nits, just not see it beyond 1000.

[@PeeGeeTips]

@@DarrenMostyn a different question I have related to high brightness monitors. What’s the actual perceptual brightness difference between 1000 and 4000 nits. I’ve read that it isn’t linear so 4000 isn’t 4x brighter, but do you know the ratio or formula for the curve in perceptual brightness in relation to nits? If measure in stops of light in camera terms, what is one stop brighter than 1000 nits etc?

[@Cadmeus]

It's so rare to find a professional tool that you can be THIS excited about the engineering of. I'll never need one of these but I really enjoyed seeing how thrilled you were for it! I'm especially jealous of the functional menus, I wish my LG C2 would just be a dumb monitor and get out of my way. If I can ask a question - if it's QD-OLED, presumably the blue subpixels will age faster than the others? Are you planning to send it back for calibration after a few years, or does the firmware take care of all that?

[@DarrenMostyn]

Ill be calibrating every few months, not years! But the new GaiaCal allows me to do this stress free!!

[@Cadmeus]

@@DarrenMostynAmazing, that sounds like great peace of mind for your work and your clients. Thanks for answering ^_^

[@Valleedbrume]

The best monitor you can buy.Goes back to the old Barco days.Hope you got to meet Bram.?

[@DarrenMostyn]

Ive met Bram many times. Will certainly see him at NAB again. One of the nicest guys you could possibly meet! Always got time for anyone and a wealth of knowledge!!

[@christophedelaunay911]

Do you sell (or have you sold) your current dm250 Darren ? Cheers from France with good souvenirs from time spent at IBC 2015 (I’m the French GP doing colour as a hobby). Glad you’re going strong and your channel has grown so big mate. 👍🏻

[@samsonsilva69]

Would love a video on monitor calibration!

[@DarrenMostyn]

I'll do one on the GaiaColor AutoCal for sure.

[@topicruben]

It looks fantastic! You can send the old one over, 😁

[@DarrenMostyn]

Brexit makes that quite complex!

[@topicruben]

@@DarrenMostyn just kidding my friend 😄

[@LAIKA-woof]

I saw one of these the other day while filming (it is actually featured in my 1st video) and it was great in SDR. There was a small unexpected colour shift on camera.

[@DarrenMostyn]

Fantastic monitors for on set with amazing view at any angle.

[@tonywalker6624]

Hi Darren, love your videos. just wanted to ask DO you have any dedicated course for color grading?

[@DarrenMostyn]

I have a 16hour (over 4 days) LIVE masterclass coming in May. Details coming soon (18th-21st !!!) Sign up to my free email list to be notified. Send me your email via Insat DM if you want a detailed brochure. STRICTLY LIMITED PLACES - might be the only course I do in 2024.

[@ronbackal]

Looks fantastic! I'm thinking to buy it. Asus released an 8k monitor right now, but then of course the Asus will not have the same color accuracy.

[@lebrett2]

I am looking forward to see a proper calibration using Gaia Color. This by itself is a game changer.

[@DarrenMostyn]

I will do an episode on that in time.

[@AwesomeBob]

@9:00 Just use some black Gaffer tape, mate.

[@DarrenMostyn]

nope! cant bring myself to do it! Black t-shirt

[@virtusas]

Thank you Daren for making such an informative videos. Question from totally different topic, that I can't seem to find answer. I am looking for advice in video media management particularry using Davinci Resolve accross multiple projects. I have no luck finding answer in reusing same media in multiple projects. I am aware of Power Bins and use them for most repeated assets between projects. What I am looking for is some way of browsing through past media projects and reusing same assets, like drone footage in same city. Most of my projects are real estate related. Currently I organise my media files in folders and separate them in interior/exterior/drone etc. Imported footage to Resolve gets keywords assignemt and metadata tags. Ideally I would like to search through used media clips using keywords, or other metadata. It is possible to do that within one project, but not sure how to address this within multiple projects. I tried for a while having one master project and sorting sub jobs in to bins, but over time this becomes bit of a nightmare with tons of bins (years, months etc). Any advice would be great. Or maybe you would consider making video on this topic at some point? Thank you very much.

[@CameraTim]

Now I have even more of a reason to hop across the pond. Viewing a reference monitor is an entirely different experience.

[@DarrenMostyn]

always welcome to view Tim!

[@FredTrevinoColor]

Great video! Just curious, what monitor did you use before to grade HDR? Also, I noticed a client monitor above you. Do you use this? Or do directors always sit next to you?

[@DarrenMostyn]

Asus UCG for HDR testing before -. Client monitir for director and clients. Directors occasionally want to sit next to me. Xmp310 just made that a serious reality.

[@Hkmmotologs]

Amazing.. this and the new Sony dual layer lcd reference monitor are colourist's dream ref monitor. but those who can't afford it and want a close enough near field HDR reference monitor, Asus Proart 32 inch miniLED monitors are a good choice. it's got miniLED backlight with minimal blooming and have 1000nits continuous at 1000% window

[@DarrenMostyn]

I have the Asus 32" UCG as well. Great monitor for the price too!

[@mohamadali2066]

Dear Darren, I still have the same old request, I request you to make a tutorial on, Grading a Dolby Vision HDR, then trim pass it to 709, then trim it to DCI-P3, then make a normal HDR and HLG exports out of then same grade, including the color mangment part and Monitor mangment for all these devevieribles, Thank you and congaratulation for the new monitor.

[@DomZeal]

How does HDR grading work? I mean your UI monitor is on 709, mastering monitor is on 2020, if you find something wrong in HDR, you can't accurately click on them on your 709 UI monitor.

[@DarrenMostyn]

correct - I dont grade using the UI. what do I need to click on to correct that I need to see it in HDR ?

[@DomZeal]

Can you see power window on your HDR main monitor?@@DarrenMostyn

[@gaboguerra950]

Enjoy !!!!

[@DarrenMostyn]

I am - thanks!

[@BluesBlueable]

You're such an inspiration and great role model! Many thanks from an aspiring colorist in Denmark ❤😁

[@DarrenMostyn]

Appreciated

[@christianrushpostpro]

Hey Darren. Any comparison notes vs something like the Sony BVM310?

[@DarrenMostyn]

No - I dont have a BVM310 so would be just me transcribing findings on the internet - not my style really.

[@jmoravec]

Hi Darren, great review! How do you deal if you have a monitor which has delay (say DM250) and a client monitor (say LG C-line) which has none. Is there actually a way? Thank you and take good care of your new toy .)

[@DarrenMostyn]

I think the best way (Im not an engineer BTW!) would be to set the sync to your slowest m,oniotr to be correct and then put a delay in your fastest monitor to match your slowest one - maybe via a BMD IO ? you cant speed up your slow moniotr so this is my thoughts on it

[@Coatsey007]

Darren, hallelujah, as you know, I’m a Muppet when it comes to grading but I’ve been very vocal about why, given that KZbin iPhones, iPads, MacBook pros and someone can all display pretty much HDR, why more isn’t being said about this so I’m your Reise That you are now talking about this my friend. The difference between HDR even on KZbin is quite obvious and when I checked, I noticed that this video was delivered as SDR. Mate, I’m so looking forward to some videos from you on this HDR methodology and workflow. As always, hope you and yours are well.

[@DarrenMostyn]

Yes, good point. I did deliver in SDR - maybe a HDR version would be good. Im a bit stacked now as Im off to LA and NAB in 2 weeks and already full diary before but maybe soon after! Hope you are well too! Good to hear from you.

[@Coatsey007]

@@DarrenMostyn funnily enough, I’m in Vegas as I type, the wife’s birthday and thought about driving down for NAB on me motorbike. No rush on the videos, your type of following will be patient.

[@DarrenMostyn]

@@Coatsey007 well let me know if you make it - in the meanwhile enjoy your wife's birthday! Happy Birthday Mrs Coates!

[@LeoKeli]

Great video - and it inspires serious monitor lust. What would be your recommendation for a screen for an enthusiast doing colour grading for internet-published content as an adjunct to their main job? I'm currently using an old Apple Thunderbolt monitor to grade (an energy hog but seems to me still a remarkably good image) and then making adjustments after reviewing playing back the exports on a Sony ZD9 TV (the firm's old flagship). Will probably upgrade some time in the next 18-24mths.

[@DarrenMostyn]

if its calibrated its fine! If not you are in the unknown.

[@LeoKeli]

Thanks. I regularly calibrate it. Appreciate the reply 😊

[@TeslascopeMobile]

I too share your excitement about the 310. I've been working with it for just about a week now. Best yet, for sure. It replaces a XM311K and it's so much better. Fanless is amazing. Do you run the CPN everytime you shut it down? It seems to be recommended, but despite that it feels odd running it at the end of everyday. (I'm sure I'll get used to it.)

[@DarrenMostyn]

Mine is set to OFF. Let me research the recommended frequency. I'll get back to you here.

[@DarrenMostyn]

So OFF means you are not manually running the CPN. The CPN will auto run when it thinks (usually around 4 hours of use) and will run once you have finished your session. It will power the monitor down automatically after so no need to wait as it takes about 9 mins. It is there to help protect the panel from burn-in etc and keep your panel in A1 condition for a long time. You cant over-run it! If you pull the mains out whilst its running it doesn't matter either - it will run again next power up if you say yes. So leave default to OFF and let it prompt you instead of manually running each session. Hope that helps.

[@TeslascopeMobile]

@@DarrenMostynThanks for the info. Good to know you can't "over-run" it. I think that concern was the part that felt a little weird.

[@ilovethejeshuruns]

Hello Darren, please What is the main difference between using Rec 709 and using Rec 2020 ?

[@DarrenMostyn]

REC 2020 is HDR REC 709 is SDR colour space.

[@sabrinaswenson]

None better then Mr Mostyn. ///Cut Hard my friend.

[@DarrenMostyn]

Hey - Hi Sabrina!! Good to hear from you after many years! ///Cut hard indeed!!

[@aov_james]

i want it soooo bad but fact that ill be in debt, i can only stare 😢and possibly xm311k review in future?

[@frannyfranman]

I’m curious how well one of the new generation QD-OLED gaming monitors could compare to this. I don’t do enough color work to justify a $10k monitor, but want to dive in to HDR for small and personal projects

[@GuinnessFL]

Nothing better then plugging new equipment in and it exceeds expectations. The exuberance may give us all "DAS", Darren Acquisition Syndrome 🙂

[@DarrenMostyn]

Love that!

[@eudes45]

Hey, do you think the upgrade over a CG319x from Eizo is worth it ? Even if i don't have any HDR demand right now ?

[@wolfgangschmid4156]

Darren, I follow you channel and think you are right: a great referencemonitor. Too expensive for me, unfortunately. You made also a great review of the ASUS ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG. What is your impression if you compare both monitors?

[@DarrenMostyn]

they are different technologies, different connectivity and different prices - Asus is still great value for HDR. I prefer the Flanders but its much more expensive - not a fair comparison really.

[@javajack-1]

Thanks for the review, Darren. I’ve owned so many HDR monitors and been disappointed in different ways by 2 different ASUS, Dell and now the APPLE XDR, which Apple claims to equal the $50,000 top Sony reference grading monitor. I have used Flanders for colour grading since they came to the scene many years ago, commercials docs, more than 25 feature films on Flanders, so have a long track record and they have always been excellent, except the constant shipping for calibration. Nice to see this new HDR has built in calibration. My one disappointment from watching your review is that the monitor does not auto detect source. Working in DolbyVision I am constantly comparing Rec 709 and Rec 2020 doing trims. My APPLE XDR will display both colour spaces. I have a Flander on a second output to display Rec709 only but prefer seeing it switch on the same monitor. I might contact Bram and the boys and see if they have considered this. Even my ASUS 1600 nit HDR monitor auto detected colour space. It was a bit clunky but did changed without constantly having to scroll a menu or hit a button. Cheers

[@jurig5579]

@javajack-1 Can I ask you about your ASUS 1600 nits model? What exact model do you have and are you happy with it overall? Does it work well for HDR grading and does the fan noise bother you? Sorry for so many questions, but if you can answer any of them I will be very grateful!

[@akyhne]

Apple is selling snake oil. The Pro Display XDR doesn't even compete with other monitors, in the same price range. Here's a review, from a pro calibrator: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKXHaIiwga97qLcsi=ofN6jrT2YvshVzd9 He measured an average gray delta E in SDR at 1.83 and a max. of 2.63. And a max. Color delta E of 1.11 and average of 1.11. In HDR, grayscale delta E was avg. 1.75 and max. 2.79. For colors, an avg. of 0.92 and max. of 2.34. DCI-P3 coverage was 98.52%. The Flanders is 100%. Rec.2020 coverage was 73.01% and on the Flandern 90%.

[@javajack-1]

@@jurig5579at first I thought I was happy with the ASUS monitor, but calibration was the issue using the X-rite system they supply. As I am on a Mac editing system, the software they supplied was in the German language. ASUS was never able to correct this for me. I don’t recall fan noise being an issue with the ASUS monitor.

[@javajack-1]

@@jurig5579 Oh the other thing I forgot to mention about the ASUS was the poor local dimming. This reduces glows caused by bright HDR images against dark backgrounds. There was a visible flash during shot changes that was very annoying.

[@jurig5579]

​@@javajack-1 Do you remember the exact model of the ASUS monitor? I just want to clarify how many dimming zones it has. Unfortunately, OLED screens cause eye strain for me due to the PWM flickering, so IPS screens are the only option 😞

[@AlessioMessinaCinema]

Hello there! May I just ask you if you feel limited by that small window size for the 1000nits peak? How does the panel perform in HDR if you have - let's say - a very bright room like in "the matrix" and you want to push above 6/700 nits for diffuse white and not just the highlights? Does it dim to 250nits full screen? I know that in the real world this is very rare to happen, but I can't find any in-depth details or feedbacks about its behavior in such conditions. Thank you for time!

[@DarrenMostyn]

31" is perfect viewing for grading. Most top facilities are on 31" if not projection. 250 nits is a limit of 100% screen is at 6/700 nits but when would this be - not even in the matrix. If this is going to be the levels you grade too I suggest the only option is a 4000 nit display like SONY X310. For me I'll never be grading more than a few % of my screen at 6/700 nits so its perfect for me. Hope that helps.

[@AlessioMessinaCinema]

@@DarrenMostyn oh sorry i wasn't meaning the physical size of the panel when i was talking about the window size, it was about the portion of the screen that could reach the peak of 1000 nits. But anyway it was just to get some more info about the panel in general, 'cause i love the oled technology but i was worried for the very very rare chance of the need to monitor such bright scenes - if they may ever happen in some crazy scenario. I hope my english wasn't too bad, thank you again for your time, i appreciate your feedback!

[@AlessioMessinaCinema]

the last monitor i used to grade in hdr was a canon dpv3120 in a small facility, but the performance on the blacks was really terrible. For freelancing this FSI looks like the best budget-friendly solution, the bvm is definitely out of my range unfortunately ahahahah

[@DarrenMostyn]

No problem, I think I also answered that too ? Let me know if you need more info. Its a fantastic monitor!

[@AndyPProductions]

Darren my apologies for such a delayed reply on this post in general, but this may actually be a good thing after you have used the monitor in real world situations for some time now, but does the OLED design show any sort of an issue with burn in?

[@DarrenMostyn]

No it doesnt but i dont leave it on for hours to be sure.

[@AndyPProductions]

@@DarrenMostyn Thanks Darren that good to know!

[@crudedude85]

Hey Darren. You do some amazing reviews. This monitor has me very intrigued, as well as most other colorists looking for a way to do HDR without a HX310 or 300. I work on X310 every single day at the office for HDR, and it's the only reason I need to commute in everyday since I only have a PVM -A250 at home. Here is my question though, have you done HDR on a Sony HX310 before, or is this the first introduction you've had to a HDR grading monitor? The reason I ask, is Im seeing a lot of hype for the people who have gotten their hands on this, but im trying to see if those people are just in "HDR shock" mode as this monitor is their intro to HDR and they haven't graded on a Sony HX310. meaning, this monitor could be sub par without them even knowing it. I remember when our office got the first Atmos HDR on set display. Everyone was raving about it since it was $7k, Dado Valentic I'm looking at you, as well as some of our guys once we fired it up the first time. HOWEVER, as soon as we got over the immediate "wow factor" of it and compared it to the HX310, we saw it was pure garbage. The same has happened when people opened they LG EP950s a few years back calling it a "HX310 killer" which is a joke of a comment. I guess I'll see one of these Flanders at NAB this year, but am really interested in seeing what those think of it, who use a Sony HX310 normally and if its worth switching or good enough for home use.

[@DarrenMostyn]

Hi. Great comment - thank you. This is MY review of XMP310. Its not a comparison. The HX310 is out of my budget so not sure why Im comparing it as I can't afford it. Im judging the XMP310 on its own merit. Yes I've seen the HX310 and 300 and many other monitors at other suites in action and I know how they perform. The reason I delayed this video was to not do 'wow factor' (which you see when I first use it) but use it for a week first. This hopefully shows in the review. I have since tested ABL and the viewing angle. This is not comparable to a LG950 - which is a great monitor but its not SDI or 1000 nits capable, even before we touch on viewing angle and QD OLED technology. This is a considered review. I put my money where my mouth is. Even if HX310 was better (viewing angle!!!!) I dont have another $15K to buy it. The LG etc is great, but I wanted a serious contender (with SDI and 1000 nits) to the Sony and I wouldn't change this monitor now after three weeks of owning it.....Thats enough time to overcome wow factor, and HDR Shock as you say, and get deep. I have an ASUS UCG too for a few years - I know what I am looking at. Hope that answers your question. I really want to see this beside an HX310 or 3110 but I don't have access or the extra money. The XMP310 is perfect for me to compete with any jobs from facilites with Sony's and deliver A1 HDR content - Netflix and Dolby compliant. No license fees, easy calibration, no noisy fan - works great for me. All the best, darren.

[@crudedude85]

Many many thanks for your reply. @@DarrenMostyn . Fully understood. I now see that there is no real answer to my question and everyone will see that monitor differently, and each person needs to see for themselves if its okay for transitioning back and forth from a HX310. I think I'm pickier on matching than others. and i say that bc I still know 2-3 guys who say their Ep950 is perfect out of the box compared the the HX310, and hearing that makes me think I've lost my mind.... or they have. You're a hell of a guy for what you've done for the colorist community and posting all the videos you've done. Here in L.A, our company gets a lot of up and coming colorists saying they watch you religiously, and we reply "yup, he wont steer you wrong, keep following him"

[@DarrenMostyn]

Good chatting with you here. Might bump into you at NAB maybe and Im in LA next week. If you do get to see the XMP310 at NAB Id be interested to hear your thoughts vs Sony. Glad you r colleagues are enjoying my channel too! Say Hi! All the best, Darren

[@ScottLeeOfficialWebsite]

Black matte electrical tape would solve the reflection.👍

[@maurice_morales]

Not electrical tape. Too small, it’s also reflective and it’ll add goo. Photo Matte Black Tape.

[@ScottLeeOfficialWebsite]

@@maurice_morales "Matte" electrical tape, not reflective. We use it quite alot on set on hollywood feature films for unwanted reflections with no goo. That does come down to quality and brand as do most tape products.

[@ScottLeeOfficialWebsite]

"Matte" electrical tape.Its used alot here in hollywood CBS radford and paramount studios with the grip department and 728 set lighting crew for refections and camera on tv/film. I would suspect it would work perfect for Darren's refections. "Goo" has to do with the brand and quality of any tape. @@maurice_morales​

[@ScottLeeOfficialWebsite]

@@maurice_morales "Matte" electrical tape. Its used alot here in hollywood CBS radford and paramount studios with the grip department and 728 set lighting crew for refections for our cameras on tv/film. I would suspect it would work perfect for Darren's refections. "Goo" has to do with the brand and quality of any tape.

[@ScottLeeOfficialWebsite]

@@maurice_morales "Matte" electrical tape. Its used alot here in hollywood CBS radford and paramount studios with the grip department and 728 set lighting crew for refections for our cameras on tv/film. I would suspect it would work perfect for Darren's refections. "Goo" has to do with the brand and quality of any tape.

[@muriloyamanaka]

damn, 10k us dollars monitors in Brazil is like 80k currency here, that must be really really dope

[@jayp9059]

Darren, what are you going to do with the DM250 monitor you have?

[@DarrenMostyn]

It will collect dust like the rest of my old kit!!

[@jayp9059]

@@DarrenMostyn if you fancy selling it, i am london based and would be happy to discuss.. i have 1 DM 250 so this would be a perfect for me to be able to pair up for set work. though i have no idea how to send you a PM on you tube for my contact details... best

[@DarrenMostyn]

drop me a DM on my instagram @onlinecreativepost

[@joshcp99]

A QD-OLED gen 3 panel produced by Samsung with some nice bells and whistles 13x the price of the same QD-OLED panel you can find in a commercial build. I own a MSI UPX321 and with correct calibration and ambient light it suits 99% of content creators. I know industries have standards and top pros should meet those standards because that is part of the price ticket, but the most of the people can achieve amazing results with wide available stuff.

[@cedricvonniederhausern6026]

Hi Darren, I was wondering what your SDI Output setting is in BMD Desktop Video. Is it set to RGB 444 or YCBCR 422? ALso does that change if you do SDR vs HDR work? Its like one of those things that always trips me.

[@hopphotofilm]

Hi daren, are you selling your old monitor?

[@DarrenMostyn]

Gone already, sorry.

[@samt9097]

Interesting you said all your work is SDR. Who works on an HDR version in general? Is it a separate Colorist than the SDR?

[@DarrenMostyn]

No would be same colourist in most instances. HDR is a delivery spec requirement. My client may ask for HDR and SDR versions od a programme. Hope that helps.

[@samt9097]

@@DarrenMostynIt's fascinating to me. Is it like a new separate job from zero if you have to do the HDR version too?

[@samt9097]

If that is the reference monitor, what that big tv on the wall is used for?

[@DarrenMostyn]

client viewing - much bigger - just much cheaper too!! Just to gove client a good feel - it is calibrated and decent OLED so its not a million miles off the XMP310.

[@Newvision-ck9cr]

thoughts on the 211

[@DarrenMostyn]

Ive not seen or used it sorry

[@petermader9559]

Hy Darren, short grading question. When I apply a grade on the whole timeline under the little dot for timeline, is there a possibility to remove clips from this "selection". hope you now what I mean. thanks for the help and all the best, Peter

[@DarrenMostyn]

No. You should use groups in this instance. Much more efficient. Timeline is timeline - no exceptions. Hope that helps.

[@petermader9559]

Thanks Darren for the quick response. I knew it at the moment I wrote the comment 😅😬 but thought there’s hope.

[@GabrielMayorquinOficial]

would you recommend the Flanders DM160 to start off color grading on a more series level? Everything so expensive... and if i could get a color grading monitor i think that one would be my budget. Or maybe the DM211? DM160 might be to small?

[@DarrenMostyn]

Flanders is fantastic value for top pro quality, so yes. Size to suit your budget I guess. I cant decide that for you,

[@GabrielMayorquinOficial]

@@DarrenMostyn Awesome! Thank You. Love your work. would love to maybe see a video where you explain a workflow Using flanders on Mac using ACES. So confusing when using the REC 709A to see it the same. Crossing fingers for one in the future :) Cheers!

[@elvisripley]

How quiet is yours? Do you hear any noise coming off the back side?

[@DarrenMostyn]

Its whisper quiet

[@Lawrenceodiwa]

the spectacles that you are wearing are they blue block or what are they?

[@DarrenMostyn]

not blue block as that would tint my vision. Just regular glasses with anti reflection. Zeiss lenses. Measured for grading distance, not reading distance. Im 55 - I need them because Im old!!

[@jaydelturco]

Great video as always Darren! You mentioned using gamma 2.2 for KZbin. Would you consider doing a video detailing the correct way to setup/export projects that will primarily live on KZbin. All of my work ends up on KZbin in one way or another and it sounds like I haven't been delivering it to KZbin correctly then. Thanks!

[@DarrenMostyn]

I'll make a note yes. All covered in my forthcoming Masterclass. May 18-21. sign up to may email list if that interests you, details in the description of my videos.

[@jaydelturco]

@@DarrenMostyn Already on the email list. I'll keep an eye out for it. Thanks!

[@skyking95]

That Is awesome i’d hate to see what it costs!!’

[@DarrenMostyn]

$11K

[@soraaoixxthebluesky]

With this monitor, maybe you would want to teach us how to master an HDR video for youtube in your upcoming video assuming we as your subscribers got at least an OLED display with Vesa certified True Black HDR600 or 1000 nits mini-LED display.

[@mvframeworks6942]

Dear Darren, I have Pd3200 Ben Q series It is good For color Grading ??

[@DarrenMostyn]

never seen it so cant give an opinion, sorry.

[@reyvaz2951]

By the time I'll be able to get one of this, someone will come down with one maybe 1/2 the price and that will be on my budget, step ot up Apple, I do not know if it will be possible for you to make a good comparison with other monitors and how to install this type of monitors, for example, Mac Studios and other types of computers, such as Studios. Thank you always for keeping your followers well informed. Enjoy your new toy.

[@DarrenMostyn]

Thanks. I wouldn't count on Apple giving you a half price solution but tech naturally gets cheaper over time. Thgats why Ive waited about 5 years for this monitor - price is now $11K instead of $25K with other options! 5 more years it will be $6K Im sure!

[@reyvaz2951]

@@DarrenMostyn I'm going to try to get, more info on, all the necessary elements, to make a monitor like that to work , with a Mac Studio, or I am contemplating, buying a PC only for Davinci and leave the Mac's for light work. Thanks again for your valuable input as always.

[@DarrenMostyn]

all the best @@reyvaz2951

[@MichaelCEaster]

I’m interested in understanding how automatic brightness limited [ABL] impacts mastering reference monitors. For example I understand your new panel will read peak luminance at 400nits on an L50 patch window due to its implementation of ABL. Would you expect this to behave the same as a SONY BVM-HX310 in relation to ABL? On this monitor, are there any alarms, scopes or false colour tools to indicate if an image is being affected by ABL? How do finishing colourists manage or advise clients how different television manufacturers apply ABL, with some models experiencing more or less aggressive response?

[@DarrenMostyn]

going to test further! I'll get back to you here.!

[@MichaelCEaster]

⁠ Reading through Rec.2390, in the introduction it lays out the intent for HDR and frequent misconceptions… reading that it really shouldn’t matter that ABL kicks in. The 1000nit is only ever intended for specular reflections, small area highlights and emissive light sources in frame. Report ITU-R BT.2390-11 (03/2023) BT Series: Broadcasting service (television) High dynamic range television for production and international programme exchange 1 Introduction and design goals for HDR television HDR-TV enables more natural images that contain wider variations in brightness. While HDR-TV does allow the picture average brightness to increase, the expectation is that indoor scenes produced in HDR will generally be at a similar brightness as with legacy TV systems. The brightness range available with HDR enables outdoor sunlit scenes to appear noticeably brighter than indoor scenes, thus providing a more natural look. All scenes, especially outdoor, will be able to produce small area highlights such as specular reflections or emissive light sources at much higher brightness. There is also an improvement in the ability to show details in dark areas; this feature is dependent on the black level of the display and the viewing environment. 1.1 Common misconceptions on HDR HDR for video and display is an entire ecosystem that encompasses much more than the words underlying the acronym. Before discussing system issues, there are number of frequent misconceptions about HDR video, such as: ‘It is all about brighter pictures’, ‘It is all about dynamic range’, ‘It is all about bit-depth’, ‘It is primarily an image capture issue’, ‘It is primarily a display capability issue’, ‘It makes images look like paintings’. Of these, only the first one here will be addressed. The misconception about HDR being simply brighter pictures arises from the fact that the maximum luminance capability is indeed much higher than standard dynamic range (SDR) television. However, this higher maximum is primarily used by the highlight regions of images. While the highlights will indeed appear brighter [1], they are nearly always small in region, and the overall image may not necessarily appear brighter. This is because the overall appearance of an image’s brightness is dominated by the average brightness, not the small regions usually occupied by highlights. One type of highlight is the specular reflection. The advantages of having more accurate specular reflections enabled by HDR include better surface material identification [2] as well as in depth perception, even with 2D imagery [3] [4]. By comparison, in the process of making the SDR content (whether colour grading in post-production or selection of the camera settings in live broadcast), human decisions are invariably made to fit the higher dynamic range of the scenes into the standard range. In typical practice, highlights are processed through a shoulder operation or simply clipped. This loses not only the amplitudes of the highlights, but also the details within and around the highlights. Similarly, shadow detail is lost. Colour emissive highlights result in the colour component going through different portions of the shoulders such that the colour shifts towards white. These different aspects resulted in the realization that a new HDR signal format needed to be developed to allow for the HDR display to truly deliver an HDR experience. There is another way to utilize the new range capabilities than to utilize it solely for highlights. This is to allow for more realistic scene-to-scene luminance variations. In current SDR, with a range of less than three log10 luminance, it was always difficult to render evening scenes, and nearly impossible to render the luminance differences of indoor and outdoor scenes. Acknowledging this limitation with SDR, some creatives like to use the increased dynamic range of HDR to have larger scene-to-scene variations in mean luminance. So, for this particular approach, HDR may result in brighter images for some scenes. However, despite these variations in intent for invoking increased brightness, HDR also allows for lower black levels than traditional SDR, which was typically in the range between 0.1 and 1.0 cd/m2 for cathode ray tubes (CRTs) and is now in the range of 0.1 cd/m2 for most standard SDR liquid crystal displays (LCDs). So, a key design question is how low should the black level be.

[@DarrenMostyn]

Hi Michael. So I have done some more testing and research for you but judging by your point no.1.1 you have grasped this now. So the QD OLED display on the XMP310 does have ABL of course - also reducing the need for Fans and cooling etc. Only monitor tech that doesn't have ABL is LMCL. The ABL kicks in only when larger areas of anything above 250 nits are used. Smaller areas up to 1000 nits can be used happily, showing 1000nits. XMP310 is displaying 1000nits tested on a L18 patch. On a L50 patch you still see 400 nits - yes you are correct.. Firstly, note that 1000 nits is not seen as twice as bright as 500 nits by your eye. 250 nits even is super-bright and Id expect that hardly ever used full screen in real world HDR grading. As most of the time you would be grading within the tolerances of the ABL NOT kicking in it shouldn't be an issue. Also, note that the viewing angle is exceptional on the XMP310 - this far outweighs any ABL worries. When and if it kicks in (never below 250 nits and only on large areas of excessive nits) it is relative to the whole image so you'll still get a good percieved idea of what the scene looks like. Im not an expert in HDR grading yet, but I intend to be VERY soon!! I hope that heklps for now - Basically, don't overthink it! You'll never notice it under usual grading conditions and tolerances. All the best, Darren

[@MichaelCEaster]

@@DarrenMostyn Looking at standards only gets me so far and I appreciate your insights! Reading Rec.2408; if SDR 100% reference white is pegged to 203nits in HDR then it makes sense that ABL doesn’t kick in until brighter than that. When I’m on set I’m grading on two DM-250, so I can appreciate your seeming sense of nostalgia when upgrading from a very capable reference display. When my monitors fall off their perch I’ll pull out two of the very last DM-250 ever produced that I’ve left in their packaging… there isn’t anything OLED in HD SDR that’s available any more and I can’t see UHD on set any time soon. If we ever do progress to UHD HDR set I’ll grab two XMP310 to keep the cinematographer happy. Thanks again for all your effort and work in colour education!

[@wakkowarner8810]

Does Flanders Scientific still offer that service where you can send them one of their monitors and they’ll calibrate it for you? How would this compare in quality of calibration with hiring somebody to come on-site and calibrate your monitor for you? How would would it take for Flanders Scientific to get the monitor calibrated and shipped back to you and how would you protect the monitor during shipping to make sure it doesn’t get damaged? How long would the calibration last if you had Flanders Scientific calibrate the monitor for you?

[@DarrenMostyn]

Yes, I covered that in this video. You pay shipping of course.

[@wakkowarner8810]

@@DarrenMostyn Thank you. I didn’t watch the video yet. I am planning on watching the video when I got home from work. I bought this monitor before watching the video because I’ve always wanted a Flanders. I am using OLED TVs but now it is time to step up to a proper reference monitor thanks to my crypto doing so good.

[@DarrenMostyn]

enjoy your monitor - but please only ask questions after watching the video- Im very comprehensive in my episodes and its time consuming to answer things i already answered. All the best , Darren.

[@frankinblackpool]

Nice review of your new monitor. However you could have mentioned at least once, if you actually liked it, rather than just sitting on the fence about its image quality. 😇😇 Think I'll stick with my Dell 32 inch at an 1/8 the cost of your "Bad Boy" display. 🤣 For a hobbyist such as myself pumping stuff out for my little channel, could you tell me the difference between gamma 2.2 and 2.4? I think my monitor is set to 2.2, yet should I be outputting my Colour Space Transforms to 2.4 for stuff like KZbin? Or is all this just splitting hairs for a domestic monitor when only a handful of people ever see my stuff? Lots of questions I realise. But it genuinely was a pleasure to see your infectious smile, from ear to ear, with your new bit of kit.😀 Hope the ribs have recovered well.

[@DarrenMostyn]

Hi Frank! I LOVE the image quality from this monitor!!! if your moniotr is set to 2.2 then your settings and output should match, else you are simply guessing. Hope athht helps. Ribs was 18 months ago - good as new!!

[@frankinblackpool]

@@DarrenMostyn 18 months ago? Time sure does fly by. So, my monitor is 2.2. I set up Resolve to grade in 2.2 with a CST and then output to REC 709 gamma 2.4?

[@frankinblackpool]

@@DarrenMostynEvery day is a school day. I experimented with setting my Output CST to REC709 and Gamma 2.2 and uploaded my latest masterpiece to KZbin. I'd been blindly setting everything to gamma 2.4 because that's what I'd mistakenly thought I needed to do with a computer monitor. My moon shots looked more vibrant. You are a star.😀

[@DarrenMostyn]

if your monitor is 2.2 output 2.2! If its 2.4 output 2.4. if your client wants 2.2, set your monitor to 2.2 and output to 2.2! Glad it helped.@@frankinblackpool

[@frankinblackpool]

@@DarrenMostyn Until now I never gave it much thought and blindly took gamma 2.4 as gospel because everybody in KZbin land says use 2.4. Almost everybody, not you. Until today I never even realised there was a 2.6 or why that was even needed. Outside of the Professional Colour grading world I guess I'm not alone in coming to this incorrect assumption. Finally all the pieces of the puzzle have fallen into place with colour management and I know what and when to use them. All bets are off if I ever buy a High Dynamic Range monitor. 🤣 Hope you've had some time to play with your drone. Today I took mine round the Big Wheel on Central Pier without crashing it. That's impressive seeing as I've killed 4 drones through user enthusiasm/stupidity.🤣

[@siai8475]

what monitor should i get to start? right now i have asus 4k

[@DarrenMostyn]

asus is a great start!

[@fazubattlecaster]

Time for a teleprompter, Darren 🤣🤣

[@DarrenMostyn]

never!

[@coachU2]

How does it measure up to the Sony BVM HX3110?

[@DarrenMostyn]

About $15000 !

[@DarrenMostyn]

no fan noise, half the depth, Quantum OLED. Less nits. I can only deliver to 1000 nits anyway

[@coachU2]

@@DarrenMostyn True, that slim panel does look sexy as hell. The price tag on this looks great as well. Great video!! Thank you!!!!

[@DarrenMostyn]

@@coachU2 thanks - you are welcome.