As a craftsman that builds hardwood furniture, this was awesome seeing this end of it and seeing how logs can be cut and how 1/4 sawn oak is cut before it is ready to be planed and milled into beautiful furniture
@jamesclarke53977 жыл бұрын
I really like your technique! I've quarter sawn a ton of wood on our LT40 and LT70 Wide, but I've never turned the log into an octagon first. I have cut from 8 angles the way you did, I just squared up the octagonal sides later. I'll be trying your method soon when I get a load of red oak, it'll definitely speed things up! The only thing I'd suggest, have you tried running two cants at once? For red oak you can normally get away with 20+ inches of cut with no cut quality issues, though I'd never try that in white oak or hard maple, that's a whole different world. It helps a lot quarter sawing smaller logs and minimizing the number of narrow cuts I do on a sharper blade. For example, using the timing in the video, at 6:20, after you split the log, you could flip and continue cutting both halves. Then at 6:45 you would have the bottom of both halves which you could flip and take cuts off of at the same time (flipping two cants takes a little practice with the clamp and chain roller, or on the LT40 no practice with a cant hook and a helper you can watch...). Then if you like tempting fate (not really), at 6:55 you'd have two cants to cut the angle off of (light clamp pressure and there's no reason the blade would pull the cants around). Then at 7:30 you'd have two cants back to back (I don't know why you flat-sawed the previous wedge though, so that affects things if you need to cut the cants two different ways!)
@noenzinga90534 жыл бұрын
how much is if I try To find the used one please
@rchancock4 жыл бұрын
Hands down the most efficient and correct quarter sawn log demonstration
@mugsymegaton37694 жыл бұрын
I said to my wife, “I love trees”, she said, “Why don’t you marry one”. I said, “Don’t get Birchy with me or I’ll drop you like a blighted Elm and go find myself a Knotty Pine!
@vickygambardella71744 жыл бұрын
You guys are amazing craftsmen. I hope you are planning to share your expertise with the younger generation, so that your skills can live on forever.
@Rose-f2t Жыл бұрын
vickygambardella7174 Craftsmen ? That is a stretch. He wasted 60% of the log
@nine9whitepony526 Жыл бұрын
That's pretty cool Thats quite the neat band saw contraption. And that operator looks like he's done it a few times.
@allanmclean66597 жыл бұрын
WOW! What a great demonstration of a pro in action! Learned a lot about how you quarter-saw, and how you get the most from a log. Thanks for the education...
@ofdirtandiron28685 жыл бұрын
this is one of the better videos ive seen about quarter sawing thats how i remember doing it years ago with my brother in law and there is alot of wasted wood thats why it cost more.
@rancidpitts82435 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of comments on waste of lumber, here is something to ponder. This Video is about custom cutting and not about commercial lumber production. The Sawyer is only interested in producing what his customer wants. If the customer wants certain cuts he does that. If he cannot do that he gets no business. My father did custom additions to homes. The customer had his ideas, my father gave advice. If there was No meeting of minds, he went home. Simple. I feel sure that happened here before the video. It works better when instructions were clear and understood. In this case waste was known by all to be a byproduct .
@benscoles50855 жыл бұрын
quarter saw yields the prettiest grain, plain saw or rift saw gives good yield but lacks the ''pretty'' ,like filet a fish, you loose meat, cut it down the middle and fry, you gain meat, but loose the table appeal. I said all this just to say, better to have a quarter sawn table with filet fish, than plain saw table with a fish split in 2. quality matters, and has a cost.
@robertevans64817 жыл бұрын
always love watching some band sawing...
@PrimalWoods7 жыл бұрын
Roy is indeed a Master Sawyer; the guy is a wizard with the hydraulics
@warrenmaker7984 жыл бұрын
this is so damn addictive, I can't stop watching.. and Roy is a master operator
@superbuddyfranklin5 жыл бұрын
Roy is so special he even has a dwarf walking beside him with an umbrella....
@protect.your.digits.creations8 жыл бұрын
The is something about watching a great operator and his mill do their stuff........ Protect Your DIGITS.....Gregg
@Wood_Slice3 жыл бұрын
Thats an amazing sawyer. Good job
@jeffcouture60487 жыл бұрын
Looks like he starts with the octagon so he has useful flat surfaces later for his clamping. Same with sawing off that pith corner. Speed over max yield. And you would lose some width on some of the nicest true quartersawn. Fun to watch.
@MrBikeman74 жыл бұрын
I just watched the Frank Miller Animation clip on Quarter Sawing. It appears to me the Frank Miller method is streets ahead of what this guy is doing and with a lot less waste.
@salty79434 жыл бұрын
different type of saw for one .... he is making close to finish product so he is removing the bark ... the frank miller method doesnt remove the bark first so yes less waste but more prep time and more time sawing them down AGAIN later
@ricardofuzisawa4 жыл бұрын
This guy operating the sawn is a genius
@patrickdean4853 Жыл бұрын
The sawyer (and I mean that) knows what he is doing … most do not. Well done!
@jsgillsp62103 жыл бұрын
Cool! Hey, what model of Wood-Mizer is that?
@mikestroman3535 жыл бұрын
Now that's a good video. Snappy moves right along with no unnessacary shots , explaining of proceeded . Just a good working shirt
@Wood_Slice3 жыл бұрын
Loving the umbrella
@rickgillis16135 жыл бұрын
didn't see a link to Roy.
@KeithVeronesi5 жыл бұрын
www.lynchconc.com/
@mversantvoort6 жыл бұрын
Good video, looks like a lot of beautiful lumber!
@scottnorman4086 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. Quarter sawed and book matched wood is very desirable for making high end guitars.
@milesgentry25614 жыл бұрын
That mill is awesome.
@tomco786 жыл бұрын
Roy knows how to quarter saw oak!!! Great video!
@DrJohn4935 жыл бұрын
I've been sawing up lumber, mostly pine, on a band saw mill for about 8 years and I still don't understand the benefit or advantages of quarter sawing lumber, especially because of the odd ball size waste that's created. Flat or plain sawn lumber reduces the waste and I can get a greater yield of the size lumber I'm cutting for (such as 2x4s, 2x6s, 1x6s, 1x8s, etc.). But, to each his own depending on what you're trying to achieve.
@KeithVeronesi5 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right. The benefit is the way the grain looks on the face of the lumber. Pine doesn't make a difference but on oak the face of the board looks completely different when it's quarter sawn rather than flat sawn. Which is why you'll see only specific of types lumber offered in quarter sawn.
@Ultrafrozen5 жыл бұрын
Less dimensional change with humidity swings on quarter sawn wood.
@green-zone365 жыл бұрын
A flat sawn board becomes wider or narrower with changes in humidity. As an example, a flat sawn solid oak floor will develop gaps and compression cupping with seasonal changes in humidity. Moist summers and dry winters. If your floor is quarter sawn the movement is now mostly in the thickness of the floor. Not visible under most conditions as the movement is along the grain which is vertical in quarter sawn.
@DrJohn4935 жыл бұрын
@@green-zone36 This is the best explanation I've heard so far, thanks. Most of the lumber I saw up is for my personal use constructing things like garden or horse run-in sheds, a barn and a small cabin on our place where shrinkage and expansion is not a critical factor. Knowing what I know now, I'll give quarter sawing a try when shrinkage/expansion is a concern.
@sharpeguns15 жыл бұрын
Make handles out of the other pieces, I turn them on a Lathe and make file Handles axe handles etc
@davidtrutwin37904 жыл бұрын
And pen blanks.
@elainecarpenter28178 жыл бұрын
this person must want to make flooring what the only way i could possibly think they would waste so much???? please correct me if im wrong???
@Stonehorn817 жыл бұрын
It's called Quarter sawn wood, and it makes more waste but creates much better wood.
@davidtrutwin37904 жыл бұрын
What waste??? You can use the bark and sap wood for firewood. And the small pieces of lumber can be used for pen blanks. And I used my mill to make some beautiful quarter-sawn flooring.
@ashforkdan5 жыл бұрын
So that's why quarter sawn is so expensive. Nice machine.
@hamidjuma23575 жыл бұрын
How much is it sold
@markm97105 жыл бұрын
2 Questions, What's with the umbrella? I didn't notice any rain Also Is the quarter sawn mainly used for hardwood flooring or furniture?
@KeithVeronesi5 жыл бұрын
I think the umbrella is for shade and/or rain. You can use quarter sawn oak for anything. It is more stable than flat/plain sawn. I've used it for furniture, bookcases, tabletops, cabinets and whatever else I thought the grain pattern grain pattern would complement. Thanks for watching and the question
@lindavandergiessen57415 жыл бұрын
Great saw. and that guy REALLY knows his stuff! The sawdust wood be perfect for making pellets for a smoker.
@amtreesurgeon5 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for the upload!
@thebones2 жыл бұрын
very satisfying to watch skilled workers.
@frankdenniskw7 жыл бұрын
Thank for sharing, first time I've seen a band saw used for quarter sawn. Beautiful wood and it should be a blast to work woth!!
@sethwarner25407 жыл бұрын
He may know his machine well, but he's throwing away a lot of quarter-sawn wood!! why cut off those corners? you could have had 3 more inches of quarter-sawn lumber x4 for each of the quarters.
@stoneyface657 жыл бұрын
right? couldve got more boards out of it.
@piledriver1416 жыл бұрын
Corners would be more rift sawn
@copenhagensnuff59915 жыл бұрын
This is not Quarter sawing,he Is sawing like this because of no Edger.
@gottabighit15 жыл бұрын
He B a newby, thats why. He will learn over time, as we all have...
@butterflyspringsranch4825 жыл бұрын
We thought the same thing at first. Only thing we can think of is if the person wanting the lumber STRICTLY wanted center ring cuts either for strength or anti-shrinkage and planned to burn rest in stove or fire place. Just a guess lol. We will give him benefit of the doubt.
@crazyequestrians50835 жыл бұрын
Do you know what mill hes using?
@davidtrutwin37904 жыл бұрын
Wood-mizer
@davidtrutwin37904 жыл бұрын
You are good at this. It is the same way I do it.
@fabian_ajib5 жыл бұрын
Cant accessing your website. Could i order some custom sawn woods from you?
@VdtWorkout5 жыл бұрын
The machine is very fast and beautiful, I really like your video
@davidtrutwin37904 жыл бұрын
Speeded up video
@ignatiusjk7 жыл бұрын
OK first how much was the log itself, next how much did your band saw guy charge. How many board feet did you end up getting.
@KeithVeronesi7 жыл бұрын
Tom Smith the tree was free, the sawyer gets $75/hour. about 500 board feet
@gottabighit15 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to see the grain, as that is THE purpose of Q-sawing...
@julianlockett79165 жыл бұрын
gottabighit1 4
@jaysmexicangrill9653 жыл бұрын
dont you think its lot of waist off lumber i like to do this but i am not going to do this sorry
@pamtnman15156 жыл бұрын
those corner edge pieces are perfect for making walking sticks by hand or on a lathe
@beefree71147 жыл бұрын
This isn't a music video...shut that noise off and let us hear the band saw run...that's what we love not the stupid music!
@Stan_in_Shelton_WA7 жыл бұрын
And I was thinking it was just a shitty music video?
@davidtrutwin37904 жыл бұрын
Press mute
@4264speed7 жыл бұрын
Cutting a log into quarters and sawing it still gives you flat sawn lumber This is not true quarter sawn lumber Look at the ends of the boards and check the direction of the growth rings and you will see this lumber is flat sawn
@TheChrisPineWorkshop7 жыл бұрын
I never grow tired of watching saw mill videos! I have one on my channel if you would like to check it out. I don't want to high jack your video here so I will not post a link. That material will be awesome once it is dry!
@mwthinks30677 жыл бұрын
Chris Pine why is that? I too can watch sawing videos for hours. I don't have the money, time, or space for one but I want to go buy a portable mill and saw boards all day! Lol. The guys that have them should charge admission so guys like me can play too... better than an amusement park ride.
@mechanoid57397 жыл бұрын
Chris Pine.. Cool name for someone who likes watching sawmill videos! :) I agree though! There is something deeply satisfying watching a huge log being sawn into useful lumber!
@helenavondrakenstein49695 жыл бұрын
such a cool saw
@TIMLASHLEY8 жыл бұрын
good job but looks like a lot of wasted wood
@DrJohn4935 жыл бұрын
It is...
@davidtrutwin37904 жыл бұрын
Not waste, it is bark and sapwood.
@KeithVeronesi6 жыл бұрын
Great comment! Happy Thanksgiving
@davidparry85145 жыл бұрын
I love it...the good stuff straight onto the truck
@kizitodavid44574 жыл бұрын
I need this mobile sawmill but i am dealing with hardwood from Africa
@dm3stone6 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@noconz07278 жыл бұрын
That is an awesome mill
@jamminbucy77816 жыл бұрын
more money . more better sawmill. i can always dream.
@TheRedhawke7 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing.
@ashforkdan5 жыл бұрын
That's a nice machine.
@exotictones10543 жыл бұрын
Why did he move the saw over the top half way n back better making the cut.
@quinnsmith29556 жыл бұрын
no bad day making quarter sawn oak
@transplant54497 жыл бұрын
great video guys
@silentteeth70725 жыл бұрын
I'm in the market for a saw. My son's and I are building homes on a huge property together
@1965JB4 жыл бұрын
I gotta find someone who owns one of these and needs a helper.
@joekonopka97537 жыл бұрын
Thats not quartersawing
@СергейКравец-ъ6ы5 жыл бұрын
It is so much ridiculous. To spoil a first class oak. What to they smoke?
@davidtrutwin37904 жыл бұрын
How would you cut mit?
@WhiskeyDale5 жыл бұрын
I can smell the sawdust from here. love it.
@patkarlsson8 жыл бұрын
This dude runs the machine like a god!
@bubbagofigure93716 жыл бұрын
Watch the mill flex as he cuts. How can any of that wood be straight
@KeithVeronesi6 жыл бұрын
Weird. Ive used it and it was all dead straight.
@donnarogers20365 жыл бұрын
It's because He doesn't have the rear outrigger down all the way.
@uffesorensen90408 жыл бұрын
A lot of waste
@jamesclarke53977 жыл бұрын
You can actually end up with a lot less waste by quarter sawing. You end up with more stable lumber, reducing lumber lost to cupping, checking, and just simply not looking as nice as quarter sawn (depending on species and figure). Because if it doesn't sell or get used, it's waste!
@cherryblossomforge68967 жыл бұрын
That is not the way that I quarter saw but to each his own. I try to get as much out of the log as possible. Though I do remove the bark and sapwood I do try to get a post out of the heartwood if I can. If he comes by your place again, ask him to clean up and quarter the log like he did and then take from the bottom of the cant then roll and take from the bottom again. Then roll it back and repeat until it is spent. You don't get that many boards of the same width but you are just looking for quarter sawn for furniture not framing so 5/4 and 9/4 mean more to you than 2x4 or 2x6... See where I am here? Anyways, my two cents. He made quick work of it for sure. Great video! :)
@uffesorensen90407 жыл бұрын
absolutely...
@jamwhenever4 жыл бұрын
Good operator.
@kennethkustren93815 жыл бұрын
Perhaps you know someone to build a pair of beams... to make a thick panel clamping table,... laminate those corners together ... aughta make a nice work bench top. Butcher block style. Copyrighted in Canada by me... but you can use it on 3% commissions... Ok?
@olben10955 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this.
@ronfleming67014 жыл бұрын
A good day making lumber out of logs. It's all good
@norlure7 жыл бұрын
It is funny to see people commenting about "too much waste".Sawyer,helper, boss everyone working as one.Video very well done.I also wish for a Wood-Mizer.Thanks
@produitsforestiergrison47048 жыл бұрын
Good job
@lectro882 жыл бұрын
well this vid is 6yrs old and I'm posting on it. Excellent operator on the mill. I just got an entry level mill and his is way better for quarter sawing. so far as labor. I'm still on the fence as to the quarter sawing, it's very labor intensive and wastefull(to me) again I'm not against it, just on the fence so far as labor vrs yield. however.. the center boards in the cross or heart of that trunk would probably be crap for splitting(hence the fence that i'm on) Very nice video thanks for posting,.. another like.
@othonkai2 жыл бұрын
That is so cool
@davidunderwood43416 жыл бұрын
nice video
@mgt006566 жыл бұрын
due was good
@johncourtneidge5 жыл бұрын
Thank-you! Lovely work!
@jasonnester95145 жыл бұрын
They call this quarter sawn all I see is reg boards being milled out this is not true quarter sawn wood moving on
@davidtrutwin37904 жыл бұрын
How would you do it?
@bohemian466 жыл бұрын
Love the umbrella.Agreed on the waste.. a little more thinking would have resulted in a little more, and larger, boards. Otherwise good job.Quality before quantity.BTW I just had 600 board feet of quarter sawn high fleck (figure) white oak stolen . The tree was 105 years old. Planks to 22" wide.. all gone.
@jeffbruce63697 жыл бұрын
octagon is most certainly the inroad to most of the quarters, ya!! and thus much "waste", although that waste is valuable to many a woodworker~~~thx much for this vid, eh
@dettlingwillhelm29667 жыл бұрын
Will man diese Maschine Verkaufen oder nicht?
@lakesidehog95256 жыл бұрын
Quarter sawing requires the quarter cant to be flipped end for end for each cut putting a flat face up for each cut as well......anything else is bullshit.......you can google it.....I laugh my ass off at those who think its something other than what I typed up there^^^^^^^^
@oliverm5sc5 жыл бұрын
What a waste of wood with this method, might get a little more QS but lose way too much
@oldbatwit51025 жыл бұрын
Should get enough to make a nice pencil case.
@Stan_in_Shelton_WA7 жыл бұрын
1/8 sawing if you calculate in the waste he unnecessarily added. 1/4 times 1/2 = 1/8.
@ryszardsmoczynski88895 жыл бұрын
O
@juliogomez93797 жыл бұрын
To much waste
@davidtrutwin37904 жыл бұрын
What waste? We can even use the sawdust to make pellets for using in the expensive pellet grills.
@vancroft137 жыл бұрын
This is the OLD way of quarter-sawing from when they did not give a sh*t about wasting a precious resource But now there are much better methods where you could have gotten some very nice wide boards out of that log instead of of those skinny lath's you got now and about 25% more te boot so tell your friend to do some research and get with the times ! most info is most likely available on You Tube !!!!!
@KeithVeronesi7 жыл бұрын
vancroft13 thanks I will.
@SKArora-rk1jr7 жыл бұрын
hi Sir, I am in Africa and like to buy this Sawmill. Can you tell me which Model and Company so that I can buy and how much price.
@frankdenniskw7 жыл бұрын
Here's a link for the WoodMizer LT70, base price is just over $54K US woodmizer.com/us/Products/Portable-Sawmills/LT70-Portable-Sawmill
@patrickdean48536 жыл бұрын
I been a professional sawyer & the simple fact of the matter is you “waste” about 50% of log yield when producing QS lumber. Simple as that. Typical log yield on good logs is about 75%. Only Americans measure log yield based upon systems that incorporate kerf loss and so on (Doyle, Scheibner or International measure). I disagree with this negative remarks... for a smaller Sawmill, they did just fine.
@cjsmith82805 жыл бұрын
weirdest idea! slab next time
@mrtada81013 жыл бұрын
Pog
@jeffsmith35815 жыл бұрын
Really liked the Video ,then the singing started please no more music.
@davidtrutwin37904 жыл бұрын
I just mute it and use the cc feature {close captioning}
@jeffeaves53995 жыл бұрын
that's very wasteful only thing he knows is to make sawdust just watch some other videos you will see
@nickbeam54325 жыл бұрын
My goodness if he can't do math then i wouldn't have him cut any of my tree's. After seeing this kind of waste tells me 1/4 is the only math he knows and this is why he can only cut this way.
@Bigpoppi14695 жыл бұрын
nice video untill i stabbed myself in the ear with a #2 pencil because of the crap music. never understand why people feel the need to add music to videos.
@Rose-f2t Жыл бұрын
Most wasteful way to quarter saw a log. It looks like you lost 60% of your lumber 🤣There are better ways, you know 😮💨
@baliwisatachannel16614 жыл бұрын
Rendemen.. Lost... No efektiv
@tonaldculpepper41195 жыл бұрын
Damn too bad that crap music had to be thrown in... had to leave
@chriscrocker96965 жыл бұрын
Too bad he doesn't know how to mill... too much wasted lumber, and too much wasted turns and moves
@richardbaker45575 жыл бұрын
wasting a lot of good wood............
@mrcoz17647 жыл бұрын
quarter sawing is a waste of time and material,,,,if you gut straight thru the log,,,you acheive the same grain woods