Queen Elizabeth's Final Meeting with Uncle Edward | The Crown (Olivia Colman)

In this scene, my dears, we witness Edward (Derek Jacobi) bowing to The Queen (Olivia Colman), engaging in a discussion about Prince Charles's suitability and Camilla. As he grows sleepy and seeks forgiveness, The Queen reassures him before he falls asleep.
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[@isthisryan7899]

In an alternate universe this meeting would be her preparing to ascend the throne.

[@emmapasqule2432]

good point

[@michaelterry1000]

Yes, that only crossed my mind when I was watching this series.

[@itsabovemenow1016]

In your alternate universe you imagine King Edward had not abdicated and still died in 1972. Okay, but it would also have to imagine his only younger brother Henry was also dead or didn’t even exist. The series never mentioned Henry but as the King’s brother, he was next in line, not Elizabeth. The Crown was a good series but it played a little fast and loose with the exact truth and it conveniently forgot Prince Henry altogether.

[@charleslennonbaker]

In an alternate universe, she would be a Nazi subject bowing to a picture of Hitler draped with swastikas. They would not have allowed the 'royals' to be 'crowned.'

[@andiilham6227]

⁠@@itsabovemenow1016what? that’s not how the succession works…

[@f1b0nacc1sequence7]

Derek Jacobi is a brilliant actor, he manages to inhabit each role with a mastery that never ceases to impress. Interestingly enough, his best work always seems to be with characters who have speech impediments....

[@racheldemain1940]

He was the Archbishop of Canterbury in The King's Speech.

[@f1b0nacc1sequence7]

@@racheldemain1940 He was the Archbishop of York, not Canterbury

[@weedermann]

Jacobi CERTAINLY displayed brilliance in this scene!

[@BryanSandor]

I adore him. I first watched _I, Claudius_ when I was home sick with the flu in junior high. It’s remained a favorite ever since, and I read Graves’s book in ninth grade.

[@f1b0nacc1sequence7]

@@BryanSandor We must have seen him at a similar time in both our lives...like you, it has been a big favorite of mine ever since. The acting was superb, the writing brilliant, it treated its audience with respect. I had read both of Graves' books (I, Claudius and Claudius the God) a couple of years earlier, but honestly I found the adaptation far better. It inspired me to read Seutonius (which is what Graves use for his books) as a result!

[@NPA1001]

All three of the Actresses who played the queen were terrific in this series….. but I think Olivia was my favourite

[@58biggles]

I love Olivia in everything she does

[@DiegoRamirez-zc7fs]

@@58bigglesshe is a brilliant actress

[@kevinpoole6122]

Uncle David-even during his brief stint as King he was known as Uncle David.

[@peachygal4153]

Yes, Edward was his official name as monarch. Not what the family called him.

[@itsabovemenow1016]

@@peachygal4153 well, of course not. That like saying if your father was the president, you wouldn’t call him “Dad” in private. Of course, privately he was Uncle David. Jesus Christ, you people love stating the obvious.

[@l.a.3479]

​@@itsabovemenow1016Rude. And Jesus Christ has nothing to do with it.

[@kyle381000]

"Don't worry yourself, Uncle. We have the best German doctors we could find to look after you. The ones that weren't slaughtered, that is.".

[@EwQzz]

One of the best scenes in The Crown! professionally served 👏

[@nineleartpisit2548]

After the Duke of Windsor died, his younger brother Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester was the last surviving child of King George V and Queen Mary.

[@mistybethune9116]

i thought mary was the last one to die

[@nineleartpisit2548]

@@mistybethune9116 Princess Mary died in 1965. She died before the Duke of Windsor and the Duke of Gloucester.

[@mistybethune9116]

i was thinking she died later@@nineleartpisit2548

[@lordalessan]

I wish they did a segment of the Duke's son, William, the most handsome of the royals. He also faced the dilemma of being in love with a divorced woman and ended it. He died in a plane crash. Charles named William after him,

[@SymphonyBrahms]

@@lordalessan The Duke of Windsor had no children. William was his brother.

[@GroovyShelly]

Derek Jacobi is the greatest living actor. And Olivia Coleman is magnificent in any role she takes on.

[@meerkat7406]

A great example of superb acting. Bavo Derek and Olivia!!!

[@user-ws2wd7nq6p]

It was Uncle Davids reaction for me when he was informed Shirley Temple is coming.

[@jcolbyt82]

For all the talk about how different E R II’s life would have been had Edward VIII never abdicated, it wouldn’t have changed anything in the end, not for Elizabeth anyway. Her father wouldn’t have been King of course, much to his satisfaction, and Elizabeth would have had a lot more time not being Queen but heir presumptive. In the end, she would inherit the throne anyway since Edward never had any children and she was next in line. Of course it could be argued that if Edward hadn’t abdicated, the monarchy would no longer exist for Elizabeth to inherit but that’s another discussion entirely.

[@ReichLife]

Silly take. Decades of not being monarch and commitment it required could have significantly changed Elizabeth life. She would have completely different children. Maybe even Philip wouldn't be her husband.

[@Rosemary-vf5ei]

@@ReichLife The Queen married when she was 21. She would have had a much happier life had her coronation have happened after the death of Edward VIII. As her father, who was next in line, normally would have become monarch had Edward VIII, he died in hi 50s and Elizabeth was his heir. She would have had a much better relationship with her children with whom she could have grown up, instead of grappling with the monarchy in her mid 20s.

[@minerran]

And Elizabeth would have still been a "working" royal but as a Princess instead of Queen. Not quite as busy but still a demanding and controlled life.

[@sarahjanegabig2181]

0:55 Shirley Temple herself worked in the US diplomatic corps & was US Ambassador to Ghana & Czechoslovakia

[@BarbaraFischbach]

What a powerful scene! I am almost imagine the real Queen and the real Uncle David having this talk.

[@l.a.3479]

*imagining

[@darrenrodneysales5973]

The Duke of Windsor was Uncle David, to both the Queen and Princess Margaret.

[@itsabovemenow1016]

Of course. What else would you call your father’s brother?

[@silencemeviolateme6076]

Not uncle Edward as written in the clip title ​@@itsabovemenow1016

[@itsabovemenow1016]

@@silencemeviolateme6076 yes, you’re right. The family never called him Edward. But The Crown also never mentioned Elizabeth’s other uncle Henry.

[@here_we_go_again2571]

To the family George VI was "Bertie" (Albert) The son of George V known as "George" was Prince George, Duke of Kent, who married Princess Marina of Greece and Denmark.

[@willng1256]

Claudius displaying his usual quality of wit.

[@jla3bc]

He was known to the family as David, thus he would have been known as “Uncle David,” not by his regnal name of “Edward.”

[@josefschiltz2192]

My goodness, I failed to recognize Derek Jacobi! Incredible!

[@shookdrm.d.9389]

even small part is crucial....bravo the crown!

[@smalondon]

Jacobi plays like a master, but Colman underplays even better, just like the Queen

[@SymphonyBrahms]

Olivia Colman is a wonderful actress. When she won the Oscar I said, "Of course!"

[@richardcleveland8549]

His "I, Claudius" was his best role.

[@ichangedmyself4362]

don't do a scene with Derek Jacobi as he is unable to NOT steal it, brilliance says it so

[@nationalist1910]

The last Emperor of India and the last King of Ireland.

[@catgladwell5684]

Wasn't the last king of Ireland George VI? In title at least?

[@gidzmobug2323]

George VI was the last Emperor of India. Not sure about Ireland, though.

[@nationalist1910]

@@gidzmobug2323 He was the last man to hold those titles. Rember when the Queen mother died, they refered to her as the last Empress of India.

[@nationalist1910]

@@catgladwell5684 It was, but he was the last living person who held that title.

[@IloElaman]

​​​​@@nationalist1910 this is Edward VIII, the second-to-last person to hold the titel Emperor of India. His brother George VI (the father of Queen Elizabeth II) was the last person to hold the title of Emperor of India. Ireland was fully part of the British empire until 1922 so the last British monarch to rule over Ireland was George V. Ireland became a free state (a self governing dominion within the British empire) in 1922 and although technically they shared the same monarch, we could still argue that subsequent kings up until George VI were not in fact Kings of Ireland as there was a great deal of ambiguity in the air during those years. This ambiguity ended in 1948-1949 when the Republic of Ireland Act passed and Ireland ceased to be part of the British Empire for good.

[@remycallie]

"The crown always finds its way to the right head." Amazing that the scriptwriters would even think to write this. For example, "George the third ought never have occurred. One can only wonder at so grotesque a blunder."

[@lutzderlurch7877]

What did George do to you? Where did he hurt you?

[@lutzderlurch7877]

What did George do to you? Where did he hurt you?

[@lutzderlurch7877]

What did George do to you? Where did he hurt you?

[@lutzderlurch7877]

What did George do to you? Where did he hurt you?

[@lutzderlurch7877]

What did George do to you? Where did he hurt you?

[@krisbrennan83]

He was originally HRH The Prince Edward of York, then HRH The Prince Edward, Prince of Wales. His full name was Edward Albert Christian George Andrew Patrick David, however to the family he was simply, David. And to HRH The Princess Elizabeth of York and subsequently HM The Queen Elizabeth II, he was simply Uncle David. Upon his accession to the throne he became His Majesty King Edward VIII yet abdicated prior to his coronation thus returning to His Royal Highness The Duke of Windsor

[@briandfallon74]

No, no. Just no. A son or daughter of a monarch is HRH THE Prince(ss) X. There is no territorial designation “of WHERE,” just typically a royal dukedom created on marriage (except Duke of Cornwall) Edward at birth was HRH Prince Edward of York. Edward became HRH The Prince Edward, Duke of Cornwall on 6 May 1910, and remained so until July 1911 when he was created HRH The Prince of Wales. He remained so until his father’s death. After abdication, he reverted to HRH The Prince Edward until created as HRH The Prince Edward, Duke of Windsor. Being a royal duke limited his ability to speak. Her Late Majesty was originally HRH Princess Elizabeth of York, then HRH The Princess Elizabeth at her father’s accession, then HRH The Princess Elizabeth, Duchess of Edinburgh, then Her Majesty The Queen. For clarity, subsidiary titles were omitted.

[@mistybethune9116]

No act he was hrh prince David he took the name Edward as king but his giveb name was David. George vi given name wasn't George it was Albert. Elizabeth was unusual for her time that she used her given name as her name as queen

[@gidzmobug2323]

​@@mistybethune9116Edward used his first name as his regnal name. He could have used David if he chose, but he didn't.

[@mistybethune9116]

@@gidzmobug2323 yes but before becoming king he went by David

[@jodimartin74]

Kudos Mr. Jacobi

[@jimmikulsky4810]

Last I saw them, she refused to forgive him for his treason.

[@robinblankenship9234]

What a magnificent monarch was Elizabeth. Both I and II.

[@sazzieb1]

She would have been Queen anyway as Edward had no children.

[@liliamfranco2285]

Yes, he was esteril

[@AdaKizi248]

True, but she would have had an extra 20 years as Princess Elizabeth/Duchess of Edinburgh - enough time to raise her children in a more-or-less normal manner and for Philip to have had the Naval career - all of this abruptly cut short by her father's death.

[@seanwebb605]

We can't no that with any certainty. That is an all things being equal argument. We can't assume that events would have continued otherwise unchanged. We can't know that he wouldn't have had children had he remained king. We couldn't have known if he would abide by the idea of constitutional monarchy or sought absolute monarchy. We're talking about someone who worked with the Nazis to the point of risking an assault on his own people. We're then going to pretend that he wouldn't have made a power grab and also pushed out other members of the royal family and changed the rules of succession?

[@l.a.3479]

​@@liliamfranco2285You mean sterile?

[@fleurafricaine5740]

Edward married to the miserable childless cat-lady Wallis Simpson JD Vance declares would have ruined the Empire.

[@exas4791]

Between an uncle and his niece.

[@AnnaBellaChannel]

Oh the Uncle The Duke of Windsor.

[@falconeshield]

Ex Duke 😂

[@AnnaBellaChannel]

@@falconeshield No, Uncle David was given the title Duke of Windsor after The Abdication.

[@SR-iy4gg]

Before you laugh at someone else, learn the facts!@@falconeshield

[@reneesantiago6496]

I’ve watched this twice all the way through and I could again!!!

[@threetreasures7698]

I’m starting over watching from the beginning too!.

[@SAINTOBVIOUS]

DAVID: He likes this girl, Camilla. QEII: (dismissive) They barely know one another... DAVID: (with such conviction) Sometimes... one knows immediately. You did. Peter Morgan can write drama unlike anyone I know. What a brilliant mind Peter Morgan is. And what a brilliant scene - with brilliant actors. This series - while I have my issues with the final two seasons, it's still to this day my most favorite series I've ever seen. Just absolutely brilliant!

[@IdleByte]

from I Claudius to this... brilliant

[@kaibroeking9968]

Derek Jacobi is every bit as good in this part as he was ages ago as Emperor Claudius in "I Claudius".

[@cyberherbalist]

Ten days after this visit he passed away.

[@calistafalcontail]

And Wallis was nowhere to be found when he died.

[@user-ve2co2ew6w]

He was Uncle David, not Uncle Edward.

[@susanmiller5035]

I don’t think this ever really happened, but it’s a well acted scene.

[@hotoneinspai]

The meeting took place for certain on the 18 of may The Duke died on the 28th of May 10 days after... The Meeting was in Private and Im sure "Nothing Like" its Portraid... The Duke was very conserned that Promises that had been made regarding his and the Duchess's Funerals would be kept...Apparently The Duke was most "Bothered" by this and wanted to hear the arrangments from The Queen herself.

[@l.a.3479]

​@@hotoneinspai*it's or it is portrayed

[@l.a.3479]

​*concerned

[@Hannari-xt6nr]

Derek is insanely good. When you see him in Vicious with Ian McKellen and then here, it is like two different people.

[@pendorran]

That's Uncle David. Literally nobody called him Edward.

[@global001]

Of all the things in the crown which didn’t even remotely happen, this is it.

[@terminallumbago6465]

The Queen did actually see the Duke of Windsor shortly before he died, but obviously what was said will never be known.

[@global001]

@@terminallumbago6465 yes. I’m sure she paid her respects from one monarch to the passing of another who’d held her own throne albeit briefly however I hugely doubt she ever said he was her favourite uncle given he betrayed the country to the Nazis, caused her own father & mother immense distress taking the throne with a stammer, caused the crown & country enormous problems trying to cover up his dealings, her refusal to ever allow his wife to be called ‘her royal highness’ etc.

[@terminallumbago6465]

@@global001 I doubt it but we’ll never know what was said behind closed doors. That’s the thing with this show. It’s a fictionalized portrayal of real events.

[@global001]

@@terminallumbago6465 true, Elizabeth valued privacy above all so it would be rare to hear of anything that was actually said. But there’s sickly fantasy and plausible fiction. The program gets less believable as current living people are depicted. Sir John Major is an example & his rebuttal of their representation of him. I’ve met him many times and he’s one of the most credible politicians.

[@mallardcutter7209]

It’s entertaining and that’s what matters

[@fleurafricaine5740]

Windsor remained detestable to the very end.

[@heavenawilson7271]

Perhaps this explains why when Diana wanted to talk to her about what to do about Charles and Camilla...She would act as she did..after reading the letters her wrote to his uncle about his love for Camilla..It must have been difficult...Diana fit the criteria..and there was not to be any compromise...Charles may have loved her in his own way..

[@stephenburns3678]

Thank you

[@auntiem873]

She would have been Queen even if he remained King. Edward had no Children. So the crown would have come to her anyway. Just later on in life. That is, if Edward had managed to retain the Monarchy.

[@elitefencer777]

There was another in line (in reality) Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester. He suffered a series of strokes in the 60s, and so would have been ineligible. However, if George VIII didn't abdicate, but died/abdicated between 1947 and, say, 1965, it would have passed to Henry. (An otherwise non-noteworthy figure, but it's an aristocrat, what do you expect)

[@auntiem873]

@@elitefencer777 - that’s just it. Edward didn’t die till 1972. He might have lived longer if he had more care (money and people) to look after him. George still dies in 1947 because of his smoking. He is still the second son and he has heirs. Albeit females. They are still in the direct line and pushed Henry down to the 3rd in line again. Just like with William and Harry. When they were kids they were the 3rd and 4th in line just because they are the children of Charles. That pushed the kids of Ann, Andrew and Edward down. If Charles didn’t have any kids. Then the next in line would be Ann. Being a female she gets push aside for Andrew. And Andrew’s kids. Even though they are females they are the next in line. Even if Andrew dies before everyone. His kids still remain in the line albeit they move up 1. Edward is pushed down for Andrew’s kids. Then it’s Edward’s kids, if they die, then Ann because the next line and all her kids.

[@peterthorn6004]

Y​@@auntiem8736

[@PrograError]

@@auntiem873 I wonder if the line just goes on and on? What if just so happens if there's a huge incident where all immediate line members are all dead and the only suitable is a commoner with some sliver of royal blood... that got traced for pretty far along the different lines... maybe they just go Republican for the sakes of it... the institution is gone now, why do we need a bloke or gal who have barely a dust of knowledge.

[@auntiem873]

@@PrograError - then there would be King Ralf.

[@jchester316]

This scene was well acted, but the fact that his collaboration with the Nazis during WWII and his openness scheme to be reinstated as King of a puppet regime all went unmentioned was an odd choice. It was if the writers forgot that all happened.

[@tyburger]

I actually think it was mentioned when the queen was considering to publically forgive him (season 2 episode 6 maybe). Then Tommy las shared ALL of the details you mentioned to the Queen… and forgiveness never came.

[@galutproctar11145w]

I don't think that it was forgotten but is just wasn't relevant at the time during that scene. The duke of Windsor was on his deathbed and had an entire lifetime of regrets, the showrunners wanted to show that the Queen realised that and was understanding of it. I think the entire throughline of Edward Windsor's character in the Crown was that people can be both good and bad and are ever changing.

[@boscovilante4068]

It's the thing were these people are high level blue bloods and it's within the gift of the sovereign to determine what is treason and what isn't and at that level 'treason' within the club is a kind of a quarrel that one can forget about if one is minded to do so. Despite the DoW's antics, she may have read him as coming from a good place? She also may suspect that he had been subjected to a smear campaign by British intel and some of the more lurid claims about him almost outright defecting to the Germans in wartime was just a bit too sketchy to really believe.

[@andrewjosepholson]

But it was. Search KZbin for “Sometimes It’s the One’s You Least Suspect The Crown.” It about a 4 minute clip of Tommy Lascelles giving the Queen a complete review of the Duke’s complicity.

[@rfarrr2817]

What collaboration are you on about??

[@Richard-dw4qo]

This never happened ! The last time Elizabeth visited him was in the hospital shortly before he died!

[@girl1213]

Hospitals don't always let film companies use their facilities

[@SymphonyBrahms]

@@girl1213 They can build a film set that looks like a hospital. You know, they didn't use the real Buckingham Palace in this series.

[@pneron2032]

Emperor Claudius speaking to Queen Elizabeth

[@stephenfarthing3819]

This is Sir Derek Jacobi - I believe! In a very good role as The Duke of Windsor! Edward VIII !

[@richardcutts196]

The one thing I found most interesting, if true, is how much contact the Queen had with 'Uncle David'. The common story is that they hated him for the abdication. On the other hand it makes sense in a way, since he is the only other living person who knew what it was like to be the monarch.

[@peachygal4153]

Elizabeth was fairer toward him. Her mother hated him though.

[@SymphonyBrahms]

@@peachygal4153 The queen mother blamed him for putting pressure on Bertie when he abdicated, thus perhaps shortening Bertie's life.

[@kimlersue]

I really think Netflix made this up. I know she and her Mother thought that Elizabeths Father George would have lived a longer happier life, had Edward not abdicated. She loved her father deeply..and so frequent contact with David..would have been VERY UNLIKELY!

[@seanwebb605]

He had only been king for a very short time and had never been coronated. He didn't have much to teach anyone about the role. If anything following the end of the First World War many monarchies had been abolished and those that remained became much weaker. The crown didn't have nearly as much power, authority or influence as it had in the past with the supremacy of parliament gaining strength. We don't know if he would have advised her to accept a docile approach to monarchy as what we saw in her reign, or if he would have seized more power and suggested that she push back against parliament and taken more control.

[@richardcutts196]

@@seanwebb605 There is one thing though. Edward VIII lived his life knowing he would become king. As such he was prepared for the job. Elizabeth came to the job without all the years of preparation he had. Even though he was only KIng for a short period of time he was still the only living person with that experience she could talk to.

[@BarbaraFischbach]

The Uncle was right about Camilla.

[@SymphonyBrahms]

CowMilla.

[@BarbaraFischbach]

No, Camilla makes the King happy. It does not matter that she is not beautiful on the classic standard. It matters that she "gets" him, she makes him laugh, and he feels wonderful being in her presence. @@SymphonyBrahms

[@seanwebb605]

@@BarbaraFischbach She reminded him of his father. A lesser royal who appeared as a refugee and married up and assumed that he was intended by god.

[@l.a.3479]

​🤣

[@l.a.3479]

​@@seanwebb605Not seeing that at all

[@Twentythousandlps]

Reminds us that Edward viii might have been King into the 1970's.

[@paddypenman2682]

Don't worry Igglepiggle, it's time to go

[@joshuakampamba9061]

That visit to France 😢a stitch in history 👑 I hope dear lilibet fully and completely forgave her uncle

[@xeromoth9771]

An attempt is made here to present Edward VIII in a more sympathetic light. Where as his true self is most accurately reflected in the first series

[@IsaacBeImont]

Clavdivs!

[@nohandle62]

Frankly, he was lucky to be buried at Frogmore. He was a traitor.

[@buddhidev7877]

With him, we wouldn't have the great queen.

[@calistafalcontail]

We would....but much later. He had no kids.

[@timheavrin2253]

Beautiful reconciliation scene.

[@hotoneinspai]

This is NetFlix... Its a story " based in Truth" No One on this planet today...KNows what they talked about in that very last meeting after which the Duke went into a coma and died 10 days later...The reason for the Visit was at the Dukes request to have confirmed by The Queen The funaral arrangments would be as they had requested years earlier. They were confirmed...By The Queen...which settled him bothered mind.

[@glennhubbard5008]

Sir Derek. ❤️

[@EpicBuildWizards]

She knew him as uncle David

[@alexispaterson814]

Imagine giving up your birth right for a woman that didn't love you.

[@daniel_sc1024]

Knowing what he did, how on earth could he be her favorite uncle?

[@myamdane6895]

She didn't really have many choices

[@strontiumdogma]

Jacobi is so good, you almost forget that Edward was a horrible Nazi

[@thomashaeringer3054]

Nazis became old people, their victims had not this chance

[@seanwebb605]

@@thomashaeringer3054 And the Americans had no problem rehabilitating them when they brought them to American to work on the space program. At some point the Cold War against communism meant more than worrying about old Nazis.

[@elitefencer777]

And a traitor!

[@thomasbunyarracampbell7243]

Prince George was her favourite uncle.

[@joshuamilnes7232]

I would would be shocked if Queen Elizabeth ever talked to David, she always refer to him as the “silly uncle.”

[@oliverwe40]

Actually this is real happend before he died the queen met him in the france

[@edwardhuggins84]

His first name was Edward not David

[@emb74]

@@edwardhuggins84His last (of his first) name was David. He was always called David. He took his first name of Edward as King. His full name was “Edward Albert Christian George Andrew Patrick David”

[@edwardhuggins84]

@emb74 wrong him full name was Edward Albert Christian George Andrew Patrick David and was always called Edward not David 🤦

[@emb74]

@@edwardhuggins84No he wasn’t. His titles were Prince Edward and King Edward but “He was always known to his family and close friends by his last given name, David.” Look it up.

[@fairdeal2656]

The year was 1972 March

[@ktmr_w]

Isn't it uncle David?

[@samanthab1923]

Looks like he’s dying of the same thing that took her father

[@SymphonyBrahms]

They all smoked like chimneys back then.

[@WestLegend03]

George died of lung cancer, Edward of throat cancer. But both for the same reason, yes.

[@wheelyjon]

Uncle David😊

[@manuellubian5709]

Just now seeing this video clip for the first time I didn't see the whole series. However I'm confused is this supposed to be Edward's death scene or did he just Lop off and fall asleep while she was talking to him?

[@user-sv7fd6es6s]

This makes me depressed

[@XxBloggs]

That coughing is annoying. He's hamming it up

[@josephlenehan4461]

Joseph and toady

[@evm6177]

David is my Favorite uncle as well, atleast he always had it in him to follow his heart.

[@boohankins2993]

His heart led him to Hitler.

[@sugarkane4830]

Thank goodness he did. He would have been a terrible king.

[@lorypicheca2351]

Um It's uncle David...

[@seanwebb605]

Let's remember that this wasn't a very casual visit. There was a great deal of formality involved. The discussion had great consequences. And as many have stated it is historical fiction for the most part.

[@lesleyhale8910]

David. His Regnal title was Edward.

[@edwardhuggins84]

Wrong his full name was Edward Albert Christian George Andrew Patrick David

[@maxdepasquale2351]

Still, he will carry the "stain" of his allegiance in Hitler's Europa, the Marburg files. Earlier on, Queen Elizabeth II clearly states that she will not forgive him. But one can forgive a man about to die, if family matters something.

[@themaggattack]

He underestimated Shirley Temple, too. Ms. Temple grew up to become a humanitarian ambassador.

[@tamerraeb2363]

Fair enough

[@kayetessari6095]

Where did they get the information for this or as usual did they take poetic licence ?

[@susanmorano405]

They took license. The visit was brief; there was a doctor behind a curtain, he could not rise to bow ...

[@Trek001]

@@susanmorano405 Actually, according to things written at the time (or just after) he did get dressed in his finest and rose from his sick bed to bow at his monarch and sovereign. His strength had almost gone so a member of his staff looked through the door and signalled when the Queen was about to enter to give Edward enough time to rise and make his bow before sitting down again

[@EEmB]

I really hope he apologised, for all the horrid things those two, Wallis and David, did. Not the abdication, but everything that came after.

[@evm6177]

Pure fiction, no facts to hold any of it together.. This whole show 'The Crown' is possibly nothing more than a romanticised series of 'What if's?' sprung from the mind of a elaborate fantasy writer. ✍️

[@Hallahanify]

​@evm6177 for example? If you go into the history it is in fact very accurate. Edward was definitely a nazi sympathizer

[@EEmB]

@@evm6177 yeah I know. It's frustrating that people belive it's some kind of documentary. I don't think they ever apologised. But one can hope.

[@johndalton3180]

Wonderful acting. Love them both.

[@SymphonyBrahms]

He never apologized for anything. Not even his leaking secrets to the Nazis.

[@lliamjurdom9505]

did she name her son after him ??

[@mnprowrestling]

It’s like Darth Vader talking to Luke Skywalker

[@l.a.3479]

No

[@hotoneinspai]

well this is the first time...Ive seen this. Did the meeting take place...Yes...I worked in Paris for 2 years andI was there when H M The Queen came to Paris and spent a day visiting her Uncle. and I'm sorry BUT I doubt even the Kind Queen would never refere to "Uncle David" as her favorit Uncle !!...The Queen wasnt prone to lie just to be polite ! The meeting was with The Duchess as well as The Duke of Windsor. Its apparently true...He did stand and Bow to her...at some cost to himself... We were told the reason for this last meeting was to extract a promise and confirm The Details of Her Uncles Funeral... So as to settle his mind. Netflix often get some things right BUT a Private meeting with The Queen would have remained Just That... NO one knows what was said and this...Im afraid is very far fetched. Keep in mind 90% of all of The Crown is fiction not fact...It's entertainment folks Oh and the Promise extracted from the Queen was that upone the death of the Duke and eventually of The Duchess they Both be Buried together... Side By Side. at His Great Grandmothers Burial Plot...Frogmore... In Windsor Great Park. The Queen had agreed all this with the people involved...The details had been made some years earlier; However The Duke wanted tho hear conformation ...from The Queen herself. They Never met again ! The Duke slipped into a coma shortly afterwards...& Died 0 days later. Its True that Prince Charles did correspond with his Uncle ... Whats also true is that The Prince Charles used to make, quite frequent "Private Trips" over to Paris to both meet with his Uncle and the Duchess. It was said The Royal Family Used Charles to both Feed & Gather ... Information! Thats perhaps so. I heard The Royal Family wanted to do more for the Duchess after the former Kings death...BUT that she was...MMm?? lets say...Well Protected by external sources Notable her Lawyer. Either way... The Duchess never needed for anything Finacially. BUT she was kept deprived of visitors ...Thats well documented. BUT They were both brought to The UK and laid to rest in the grounds at the Mausolium at Frogmore. Windsor.

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*upon

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*confirmation

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"0" days later?

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*notably

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*financially

[@westaussieeggs8867]

it is as if it was predicted in the series, Charles weak, Wiliam will make a better king

[@Gunleaver]

Who had the best avuncular relationship with Charles? Edward - "Here's my personal, private correspondence with Charles, so you know everything he has confided in me." Wallis - "Charles, you can't trust anyone in this whole family!" Gee, I WONDER how Chuckie 3 came to think that divorced women aren't as evil as everyone believed in 1936, and would make a perfectly good spouse for a king?

[@SymphonyBrahms]

Chuckie and CowMilla.

[@l.a.3479]

Please don't call him Chuckie 3. It reminds of those satanic doll movies.

[@sherylblazek2027]

Did he never learn basic manners of covering his mouth when he coughs, instead of spitting all over her?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@boas7742]

He was incredibly sick at this point he likely didn’t have the strength to

[@calistafalcontail]

Thats a scene from a show...not real life

[@BellaRainDrops]

If only she had listened eh

[@SymphonyBrahms]

Why should she? He didn't deserve it.

[@Steve-ix2un]

I dont watch these shows because no own knows what is said, events yes but not this sort of thing

[@johnnysukhumvit9242]

Is he Edward VIII? (Sorry for the ignorance; I'm a yank).

[@davidcaudill7779]

Don't you do disrespect America we are not Yanks we are Americans and we are proud and we are above and beyond anything related to Britain especially with their stupid kings and queens

[@Terry-hm4bs]

I'm American. And yes he was Edward VIII. You had it correct.

[@SR-iy4gg]

What does "I'm a yank" have to do with anything? I'm American too. So what? You can't crack open a book or use a search engine? Quit making Americans look like idiots because you don't seem to know about anything outside the American borders.

[@1pureboy1]

@@Terry-hm4bshe was never crowned.

[@Terry-hm4bs]

@@1pureboy1 True, but isn't Edward the VIII his royal name?

[@jamielyallleathan]

I'm a history student and I already have a few years (not many) of study, I don't understand the meaning of these series! History is what counts and it is with it that we grow, and to be quite realistic, not everything was wonderful during Queen Elizabeth II's 70th Reign! The past was dark, the present is also dark and the future no one knows! The history of the United Kingdom goes far beyond a TV series!

[@twobearshomestead]

It's called fiction based on historical events.

[@jamielyallleathan]

​@@twobearshomestead And what is the purpose of the series based on historical events? Edward passed away in 1972, Elizabeth in 2022, the history of our country will give due value to the service provided by each one, so it is time to stop exploring figures relevant to our country!

[@twobearshomestead]

@jamielyallleathan entertainment. There is no other meaning than that. That's like asking what's the point of a series like Downton Abbey, or a movie like Victoria and Abdul. Or over in states, Mel Gibson in the Patriot. Historical markers are plot points, and the fiction is created in the in-between. It's dramatic license.

[@user-jz4rv2fr4f]

"I'm a history student" -.- Well get your head out of your ego and understand this is a dramatization not a documentary of historical events

[@jamielyallleathan]

@@user-jz4rv2fr4f My ego just because I said am history student! Really?

[@ZakhadWOW]

it is incredibly incorrect to call him "Uncle Edward"... Edward VIII was his regnant name, once he abdicated he simply became David, Duke of Windsor.. Please pay attention to relevatn details like this.

[@edwardhuggins84]

Wrong his full name before he became king was Edward Albert Christian George Andrew Patrick David

[@l.a.3479]

*relevant

[@l.a.3479]

You do realize this is not a documentary?

[@soma1201]

Why does she say it was a blessing?

[@user-pk1gp7iy2o]

Because she knew that it was her destiny to be the Queen of England, and that everything worked out the way it was meant to.

[@vaquezartup365]

As an adult she came to realize how nice it is to be queen 😂 She had problems with it when young but now she was full with it As for Edward his reasoning to abdicate was bcoz of a gal and his refusal to accept old ways of the mornachy. Here he is old n alone. He would have stayed on as king till he died n then pass it to Elizabeth. In life trying to run from challwnges always ends badly

[@michaelbayer5094]

Wallis will always be the official reason why he abdicated. However, it wasn't "his refusal to accept old ways of the mornachy" but rather his refusal to accept what kingship had become. He did not want to be figurehead. He wanted to rule, not just reign, as king. Also, I suspect being a closet Nazi sympathizer was also an issue.

[@julianskinner3697]

He had to go because he was a nazi and a traitor If it wasn't Simpson, it would have been some other pretext to get rid of him.

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*because

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*monarchy

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*challenges

[@rrickarr]

These British Royals are so full of themselves. It is astounding to see how seriously these people take themselves.

[@user-ho2pf5mj5g]

🗼

[@RobertJarecki]

Jack Russell Terriers started in England. There are a few things that I've never told my 14 year old Jack Russell Terrier: 1. That the USA, where we live, isn't a part of England; 2. That the USA actually had a revolution against the Crown: 3. And, most relevant to this clip, that Charles is now King.

[@MiniUsyk]

Will we practice the old German salute one more time.

[@HevyGee]

Wasn't this the Royal Nazi?

[@SymphonyBrahms]

Yes.

[@ReichLife]

If one learns history for sensationalist media? Than yes. In reality? He was merely a sympathizer.

[@calistafalcontail]

@@ReichLife Would a sympathizer sell his own family and nation to an unhinged dictator? If he was a " sympathizer" after knowing what Hitler was and visiting concentration camps in the making....how is he different from an actual Nazi? He was one. And Wallis was said to have an affair with a high ranking nazi so pleaaaase. I am german and I wanna vomit when people defend this bs. Your username says alot though.

[@andrewoliver8930]

Uncle Edward didn't get hanged like other traitors. Royalty gets away with stuff, yet puts up some flags and everything is ok. They're a funny lot.

[@girl1213]

He got to live with the fact that he was hated. That everything he had now was out of pity or charity. That he had no power and influence. That people woke up to the reality of him. He was shoved aside. Death would have been a mercy. He was too much of a coward to take it himself, so he had to live with the fact that he had lost what he valued: control and popularity, to be in front of the crowd and controlling them with his charm. But he allowed himself to be seen with the enemy because he *wanted* to be seen. He lost everything. His title was worthless, and he had to live among those who pretended to like him, but really only wanted his money and to make themselves look better in comparison or turned out to be just as bad as him. Sure, he got to meet some great public figures of the 20th century, but that never helped change his circumstances. He always went home with little more than a memory of a party. He was frankly being used time-and-time and again because he was an artifact, nothing more. Don't be fooled by the flags and curtains. Living is, after all, so much worse than death for men like David, who did not deserve to be called Edward. That name belonged to his great-grandfather, not him.

[@andrewoliver8930]

@girl1213 It's a shame normal folks don't get that option. Royalty get sent to a nice exotic island to feel a bit bad. Funny.

[@gidzmobug2323]

One of Victoria's grandchildren got his British titles taken away because he fought on the wrong side during the First War. IIRC, that was also the case with one of George III's sons or grandsons for the same reason.

[@andrewoliver8930]

@@gidzmobug2323 A devastating punishment. Millions died.

[@l.a.3479]

​@@girl1213Tl; dr