Queen expresses her concern to PM Margaret Thatcher about rising unemployment

Queen expresses her concern to PM Margaret Thatcher about rising unemployment - The Crown Season 4

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The Crown S04 E05
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@Steve-wf3vv 8 ай бұрын

One HUGE inaccuracy, you DO NOT leave the company of the Queen until she dismisses you.

@limerency5834 7 ай бұрын

Thatcher sucks but fuck that what are they going to do behead her? Prison her for walking away? That’s not a rule just a suggestion lol

@sarcasticstartrek7719 7 ай бұрын

I think that was intentional. It's showing Maggie's rising ego.

@shimanopetermann9068 9 ай бұрын

This makes me think about something, Emperor Franz Joseph I. of Austria once said to Theodore Roosevelt when asked about the meaning of the monarchy: "The meaning of my office is to protect my peoples from their politicians."

@benmarleor 8 ай бұрын

So what did politicians do? Abolish the monarchies

@koenkeep 7 ай бұрын

Said? No american president ever visited A-H

@shimanopetermann9068 7 ай бұрын

@@koenkeep Well, Roosevelt did. He had an audience with Franz Joseph I. in the Vienna Hofburg in 1910. He wasn't president anymore at that time, though. He had been replaced by William Howard Taft one year earlier after he had refused to stand for office a third time.

@koenkeep 7 ай бұрын

@@shimanopetermann9068 Aah and you still call presidents a president even though they are not actually president right

@shimanopetermann9068 7 ай бұрын

@@koenkeep I didn't call him president in my initial comment. I said Theodore Roosevelt, not President Roosevelt 😉

@pamelahermano9298 9 ай бұрын

I liked this show because it didn’t show a bias either for or against Thatcher. They simply portrayed her as she was and they let the audience come to their own conclusions. A lot of entertainment material these days hit you over the head with whatever narrative they want you to adhere to. By not leaning too far either left or right, this show has become more thought provoking. I see the strong points of both women in this. Well done to the writing team.

@rannierunsfast 9 ай бұрын

It was incredibly biased. The creators are huge royalists

@jetboy33 9 ай бұрын

I wouldn't call the show "incredibly biased", but IMO it was noticeably a bit anti-Thatcher. In a world where conservatives are so often portrayed as demons incarnate, this show's treatment of Thatcher was pretty tame, but still biased.

@pamelahermano9298 9 ай бұрын

@@jetboy33 that wasn’t what I saw, I viewed Thatcher as someone who firmly believed in individual responsibility and she was a woman firm in her convictions. Her father didn’t rely on handouts when he could have and it shaped her tremendously seeing his work ethic. After watching this show I actually grew to admire this historical figure.

@frglee 9 ай бұрын

Well, my own conclusion is that I find Thatcher here to be morally reprehensible.

@HK-gm8pe 9 ай бұрын

I didnt live in UK when Thatcher was in power but my aunt did, she said that she has a lot of respect for the woman and found it very distasteful when people celebrated her death but ofcourse its understandable why she was sooo hated by soo many aswell

@ForGodAndTheEmpire 9 ай бұрын

The Queen was in fact on a royal tour of Australia when the Falklands victory parade took place on 12 October 1982.

@reuterromain1054 4 ай бұрын

Yes and Her Majesty was very mad at Thatcher for tricking her out of country this day.

@castodivo 8 ай бұрын

These conversations that these two women have with each other are the only part of the crown that I thought were the absolute best moments.

@TwinkleSparkssss 9 ай бұрын

I really like how puffy Thatcher’s hair is compared to her head

@RoseQueen215 7 ай бұрын

What bothers me about Thatcher was her saying that "if my father and I did it, so can you" attitude. Not everyone has the same circumstances to succeed. It was just really unfair for her to say that.

@RycerzRL 4 ай бұрын

Read about Thatchers father and Thatchers circumstances first than... They succeeded with some of the sh****t circumstances you can imagine. "if my father and I did it, so can you" attitude is one of the most honest and fairest attitudes you can have.

@blinkywinky2431 3 ай бұрын

@@RycerzRLas someone who lives in a third world country, sometimes no matters how hard you work or how many years did you work, if you don't have the privilige, as you born poor, you die poor

@bodyloverz30 3 ай бұрын

@@blinkywinky2431 That's the Third World, not the Second or First. But China & India seem the exception.

@salty7478 Ай бұрын

@@RycerzRLits fair to say that Thatcher’s father found his own success despite the obstacles he faced. It’s also fair to say that the circumstances surrounding Thatcher’s father/family is not indicative of every other common person. For one thing, a poor person of color has wildly different experiences and obstacles compared to a poor white person. And at least Thatcher and her family had white privilege to give them a boost. That’s just one of hundreds of variables that make every human being and their circumstances unique regardless of wealthy or poor. Anecdotal examples of success are all well and good, but if we only rely on anecdotes and not hard factual empirical data then our society would never change over time.

@AlexKS1992 Ай бұрын

If there’s one thing that was going for Margaret Thatcher is that she made her own luck by becoming PM and then subsequently messing up the whole country.

@ichbinjon 9 ай бұрын

Her mannerisms are so bold and sharp, I love it! The way she pronounced "a nice secure MENTAL hospital" caught me off guard though! 😂

@MegaSpideyman 5 ай бұрын

Why's that?

@ichbinjon 5 ай бұрын

@@MegaSpideyman the emphasis maybe?

@EmiliusReturns 9 ай бұрын

Gillian Anderson was so spot-on as Thatcher.

@briandelaney9710 8 ай бұрын

No. She was trying so hard to get the voice , that she made her a caricature and she also slowed down the voice too much The actor who did voiceover on Spitting Image could have done better

@WillScarlet16 3 ай бұрын

2:08 - So basically, "Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?"

@marley1276 2 ай бұрын

I was astonished to realize it was Gillian Anderson playing Mrs. Thatcher. She really showed her chops in this role, and proved her talent a hundredfold.

@knicol46 5 ай бұрын

I remember on my 18th birthday getting a card from my local council asking for £444 community charge (poll tax) demand. They never stop until I die.

@jonathaneugene2582 9 ай бұрын

Keep it coming with the crown videos of any season. This is my favorite show. Please.

@josephhicks6445 9 ай бұрын

Abandon the notion of collective duty, that is absurd. One can not always be a pillar of strength. Inevitably you must rely on others for support. One could argue that is the point of being a citizen of a country.

@wendysnelgrove5870 9 ай бұрын

One could say that is the point of being human. Humans developed, anthropologically, by collective action which outstripped the collective action of other hominids.

@bunclip 9 ай бұрын

Since when was she human? @@wendysnelgrove5870

@designshorts4020 9 ай бұрын

The show is not about thatcher

@tedadams1324 9 ай бұрын

This is "collective duty" in the political sense. If I, as an able-bodied individual, should choose not to work, should the state force upon you (and the rest of society) the "collective duty" to support me? In essence, the state would force you to subsidize my selfish and lazy life choices.

@zacmumblethunder7466 8 ай бұрын

@tedadams1324 What if you cease to be able bodied?

@zack7438 8 ай бұрын

One thing I respect about Thatcher was her temerity and courage to be disliked in pursuit of greatness. To be a woman Prime Minister in a society that was still heavily patriarchal, despite having a Matriarch for a monarch, was a remarkable achievement. She believed in her qualities and did not let the social norms of her time dictate her fate. That is a quality I fear has been lost.

@wickedwitchoftheeast88 5 ай бұрын

She was a lot of things great wasn't one of them. She was a hard faced old bitch and she pissed everyone off eventually because she didn't care if she was disliked. Whilst I agree with the senitment and don't give a fuck what people think of me when you're at work its different. Yes you will be disliked by someone especially when you're senior because you can't please everyone but you need to be respected too because once your subordinates lose respect for you you're fucked when you fuck up as your staff don't respect you enough to have your back and its a long fall from the ladder when no one wants to reach out and soften your landing. As the saying goes pride comes before a fall

@cherylhulting1301 4 ай бұрын

I will give her that.

@josecostamartins2019 7 ай бұрын

2:26 it kind of funny that her hair looks kind’ve like a crown in this shoot

@randomgirlonyt3221 9 ай бұрын

Her mother and father I believe had a shop in Grantham my grandparents has been in it

@jpblack2148 9 ай бұрын

Anyone else just find the risk of ruin takes up too much headspace sometimes and that without it one could more easily focus on betterment?

@MJK1965 4 ай бұрын

Maggie was something else.

@Davedunphy-wr1ss 4 ай бұрын

She was a dog

@josefpicken 9 ай бұрын

her hair is huge!

@reuterromain1054 4 ай бұрын

Too huge, it`s a wig.

@SpockvsMcCoy 8 ай бұрын

Helmut hair(do)😮

@1101millie97 8 ай бұрын

Queen Elizabeth II and Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher were about the same age, weren't they?

@rogerwhite95 7 ай бұрын

I believe Thatcher was only some 6 months older.

@reuterromain1054 4 ай бұрын

@@rogerwhite95 Correct.

@rgomoffat 4 ай бұрын

Thatcher and Regan NUTS

@jaycristoval6155 9 ай бұрын

Absolute rubbish.... however, great acting...

@Bill-v8r 8 ай бұрын

Thatcher died well before the queen

@ReaverLordTonus 9 ай бұрын

I like Thatcher and I know this conversation may not have taken place word for word. But in this scene I call BS. The function of a mental hospital is not just to ensure people are not a danger to others, that what prisons are for. Mental hospitals are intended for the treatment of illness inflicted upon those who had no choice in the matter and to prevent them from being a danger to themselves. Furthermore their function is not to lock those people away forever, but to provide some measure of recovery that would allow them to rejoin society.

@Chaoskoch 8 ай бұрын

There's specifically mental institutions for criminal and violent individuals. Of course they can be a danger to others, and a lot of them are basically untreatable (under current circumstances). There really aren't any alternatives to this, so I don't understand what you're saying here. Whenever you saw some psychopathic murderer being sent to a mental institution instead of prison, he won't get a nice little therapy session and some pills just so he can leave right after. In the vast majority of cases they spent the rest of their lives in that hospital/prison, and for good reason too.

@cenotemirror 6 ай бұрын

Historically speaking that simply isn't true, or at least not complete truth. It's true that there's always been a promise or hope offered of improving the condition of the inmate. But in practical fact, the function of most mental institutions throughout history was to warehouse and manage the insane, to keep them 'well-behaved' if not improved, and to keep them out of sight and out of mind of society and their families. You could not do this in prisons because prisons were for those who had committed crimes, and most of the inmates of mental institutions were not criminals or violent. Most prisons didn't want them anyway, nor did their families like the idea of sending them to jail. A mental institution offered the fiction of potential healing with the reality of keeping them away from society. In more modern times things have changed vastly for the better, and the promise of healing is now often a reality. But even in the modern system of mental hospitals there is still a bit of a 'warehousing' mentality, along with a notion that quiet is better than cured.

@cherylhulting1301 4 ай бұрын

You're not wrong. But conservatives like Thatcher don't always get that distinction.

@lucy7th 5 ай бұрын

Thatcher trying to weasel out of her horrible policies.

@insertacoin738 9 ай бұрын

based iron lady she knew how to lead

@pawepluta4883 9 ай бұрын

The problem is - she led to the poverty.

@mountainblanc3200 9 ай бұрын

Too much leading, that resulted in less favorable outcomes down the road and her own party turning against her in the end. Though no one can take away the fact that she was a formidable politician to contend with and she made sure to put the Queen in her rightful place during their audiences, well…to the detriment not just of their relationship but of the country as well.

@fahimfaisalmahir567 9 ай бұрын

@@mountainblanc3200 What do you mean by putting Queen in her rightful place? At the end, she came begging to Queen with the request of dissolving the parliament since her party members threw her out.

@mountainblanc3200 9 ай бұрын

@@fahimfaisalmahir567 Well, she seems to not listen to her advice and went on with her own devices. Just like her curtsy as low as it gets is an insult to the monarch. In her time in office as PM she tried her best to outshine her boss at every moment she can. The system only works when they support each other and trust one another.

@fahimfaisalmahir567 9 ай бұрын

@@mountainblanc3200Queen tried her utmost best to support her but she can't support anyone in their destructively divisive ideas. Even if the PM forgets the boundary of constitution, Queen has to uphold it as she is the prime defender of democracy, law and constitution. Asking the Queen to dissolve parliament just to save her own a$$ was anti-democracy. Then her reluctance to support sanction in South Africa was racist as well. Queen knew her place very well as Thatcher was her 8th PM.