Queens community pushes back against MTA bus network redesign plan

A Queens community is pushing back against the MTA's redesign plan to speed up bus service in the borough, saying the streamlining has gone too far. CBS New York's Elle McLogan reports.

[@kittenpawsbb]

Why don’t they do the express stops and the regular stops. They have buses like this in Brooklyn. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@BlimpCityFeeder]

Q10 Lefferts Blvd can’t handle the added service like B46 Utica Ave.

[@chrisdadrilla]

@@BlimpCityFeederYea you’re correct because JFK depot which Q10 course from don’t have enough articulated buses to be able to make it Select Bus Service, they already got Q52 SBS running on Woodhaven so the depot can’t handle much unlike Flatbush where it got plenty of buses to run express.

[@joeschmo622]

Back when we still had Queens Transit, Triboro Coach, Green Bus Lines, etc., the independents got all the shiite routes that wended around almost at random through local streets, while the MTA got all the straight-throughs that followed the main drags. After "consolidation", the routes were more or less kept intact, but now the MTA wants to just do all the straight-throughs and "streamline" the system. And then they'll pissnmoan about decreasing ridership when people who can, start driving instead of walking a mile just to get a bus or having to take multiple buses vs one. For context, look at the Q18, Q47, Q38, etc., and how those routes look.

[@TheRailLeaguer]

The Q38 usage won’t be impacted but will be split at the Metropolitan Avenue station for better utilization.

[@Vryheid]

The Eliot Av half of the Q38 will short-turn at Fresh Pond Road instead of meeting with the M train in Middle Village or Fresh Pond

[@BlimpCityFeeder]

Assemblyman R. David and his City Council counterparts better take heed. Disabled, elderly will mail in ballots over a lost bus stop. Bx33 had a bus stop restored when seniors on Morris Ave voiced concerns, for Sutphin Blvd to still lose out..speaks volumes.

[@ravisriram6746]

I have a feeling Northeast Queens will continue to be a transit desert, regardless of this ambitious "redesign" plan. If the MTA were truly serious about getting people to take mass transit, they might look at implementing bold changes, rather than merely reshuffling existing bus routes. At the very least, they should explore putting in a light-rail option (which they say will be too horribly expensive) on main thoroughfares like Northern Blvd or on a route linking Northern and Southern Queens.

[@elizebanarsee6767]

What you are saying makes too much sense. They are morons in suits.

[@S3NDP13]

Oh shit y'all talking about my county let's gooooooo- Oooohhh shit...💀

[@kevinnosx9]

I wish the buses would come in different colors

[@Dezlite]

Why, the colour of the bus means nothing

[@kevinnosx9]

@@Dezlite more people would ride the buses if they came in pretty colors

[@Hasblock]

@@kevinnosx9this is true actually. I vowed in 2014 to never ride an MTA bus again until they come in green

[@Hasblock]

⁠@@kevinnosx9this is true actually. I vowed in 2014 to never ride an MTA bus again until they come in green

[@adriand817]

You can’t make everyone happy, the means of many outweighs the means of few.. people need to realize that the network is 80 years old and designed for a different era. Changes have to made. This is coming from a bus operator who has to drive the routes. Some of them don’t make sense when it should be more direct to save time. Traffic light priorities need to be quicker for bus lanes. We sit in traffic a lot..

[@drakesessions3544]

1:26 What's with the rehearsed tears? There are other bus routes available and some will have improved service from what I have seen on the final design, how will a few extra feet of walking be a financial burden? Oh I see how, it's a financial burden to walk extra feet because you won't be able to get more of those fake 6 inch lashes on your face or them 6 inch Freddy Krueger claws

[@niarollins7282]

well this was mean …I cried because I wa upset and I happen to think my nails and lashes look just fine thank you

[@DnD_Robb404]

Keep the M on 63rd and the F on 53rd

[@Atrail_Mckinley4786]

I mean it was fine before to be honest.

[@the-renegade]

​@@Atrail_Mckinley4786 Facts! 😂

[@garrysaint-vil725]

They going to do that in Brooklyn as well

[@Flash_Warn1ng]

They split the Q5 Bus Route to 3 different Bus routes, its stupid

[@simplyo26]

The Q5 already has 3 different destinations. In the new plan it will have one. Simplifying the route and diminishing confusion.

[@Flash_Warn1ng]

@@simplyo26 splitting 1 route into 3 with the same frequencies is not a good idea no matter how you put it.

[@simplyo26]

@@Flash_Warn1ng They don't have the same frequencies or stop patterns, one. Two, they're simplifying things: Q5 to Laurelton limited, Q86 Rosedale Rush, and Q87 Green Acres Rush.

[@Flash_Warn1ng]

@@simplyo26 instead of improving service patterns they cut corners and split 1 route into 3 and added another terminal on top of that 🤦

[@simplyo26]

@@Flash_Warn1ng The 5 been had those 233rd short turns, so I don't know which you speak of. The 86 is the combination of the Rosedale 5 and 85, and the 87 is so Hook Creek isn't left without service. Simple.

[@kitsunefaye1661]

It is too far. Without the Q8, I won’t have direct access to Jamaica Center.

[@MtaTrainsFan]

Same shit happens to be when they did it in the Bronx they remove my bus stop and i gotta walk more and not just that take 2 bus to school

[@phillipjason]

Due it all over and that woman who cried 😂you a drama queen actress 😂 crocodile tears

[@garrysaint-vil725]

B69 going back to park slope or Windsor terrace area but it swapping from the B48 to greenpt

[@A350flyernyc]

How exactly is it a “financial burden?” Bus-to-bus transfers are free on the MTA, so even if you have to take multiple buses, the fare you pay is still just $2.90 for the entire trip. Would it add time? Yes, and that’s a valid criticism, but I don’t see how it’s a “financial” burden. But if anyone else here has any insight into this, I’d love to hear it.

[@tasniaislam3951]

Well, if you're from South Queens, you would know that everyone lives there but NO ONE works there, so they all need to commute to the train station. Transfers are only allowed once per ride, so if she transfers to another bus from one bus, then she would have to pay the fare again at the train station.

[@A350flyernyc]

@@tasniaislam3951ah. Got it. Thanks for clarifying

[@Olivia-W]

I mean... some stops are redundant on a few routes. Some are baffling. Oh, yeah the Q10 should not be touched. With the Artrain being as dumb as it is, it's a lot more sensible.

[@johnlansing2902]

But are the illegal aliens negatively affected ? That seems to be the only real question .

[@Dagune]

Consolidating bus routes but want congestion pricing to force ppl onto bus and train? Yeah ok

[@ExploringTheTube-fd1oo]

Absolutely disgraceful news report from CBS New York. This news report is irresponsible and nothing but inflammatory. Traffic engineers designed this. And switching buses is literally free, so I have no idea what that lady is crying about, maybe she doesn't know. I'm sorry if you have to now take one more bus than usual, but literally millions of New Yorkers do that every day, even on trains. Also, they are increasing the funding for the MTA buses. I'm one of the people that has to change my daily route, and it's supposed to be better and more convenient. (And it looks that way) But I won't know that until they actually show up with more buses on time and less crowds in the bus. Which was the intent of these changes, and for some reason that isn't mentioned once in this "news" report. The current system is terrible. You have to take one bus for several hours to drive through a route you do not care about, and it's really unnecessary. Why would you want to drive through a neighborhood that is completely out of the way of where you were going? The previous bus stops were designed for convenience, not efficiency. This is going to be better for everyone.

[@Atrail_Mckinley4786]

The issue is that more people will have to transfer to a different bus which will just add to commute times. This will not make people want to take the bus and may resort people to drive instead

[@AaronMohammed-v6v]

MTA SERVICE BUSES MTA is ok

[@Andy-tt6ms]

How is it a "financial burden" when 99% of the time they don't pay the bus fare 😂

[@BlimpCityFeeder]

Some still pay out of not wanting to admit they can’t afford bus fare, so something must have went wrong.

[@ProfGlitch]

who is "they"?

[@Andy-tt6ms]

Use your imagination

[@niklay33]

​@@Andy-tt6msThe POOR

[@whitetrashmillionare4858]

N.Y. needs to be more car friendly!

[@migloz2898]

Boo Hoo. Walk the extra 2 blocks

[@randylotito8045]

RIGHT HERE THEY NEED TO PUT N.Y.P.D. POLICE TRANSIT 🚇🚇 DISTRICT COPS 👮‍♀️ 👮‍♂️ 🚔 INSIDE THE SUBWAY TRAIN 🚇🚇 STATION CAB 🚇 CARS NOT AT THE TURNSTYLES WHERE YOU SCAN & $$$ PAY 2.90 CENTS WITH YOUR OMNY SCANNER CARD PASS.

[@omt4293]

I think it’s gonna be a financial burden! And she’s crying over this?!??? Oh please, how about cry for the 30,000 that died in the Gaza Strip! What a prima Donna

[@A350flyernyc]

Wait. It’s spelled “prima donna”? I’ve always thought it was “pre-madonna” and meant someone who was around before the singer Madonna. Only now have I learned that A) that’s not how it’s spelled, and B) it has nothing to do with Madonna. I really should have known this, but I didn’t. Mind blown 🤯🤯🤯

[@myndgodandpsyche]

You're lost sooo lost

[@omt4293]

@@myndgodandpsyche oh yeah? You wanna cry over a bus stop?? Go right ahead cry me a River you fool 🤣🤣🤣

[@drakesessions3544]

Shut up with Gaza, that's their problem not ours, go fight their war by joining their military, if they let you live

[@BlimpCityFeeder]

What can she do for the Gaza Strip? Vandalize an innocent restaurant on 96th St? Get arrested for not making way for emergency vehicles at Times Square? 2 fare zone can become 3 or ride share to nearest Q10 bus, is why she’s crying.

[@randylotito8045]

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