Quest 2 settings NIGHTMARE? You are doing it WRONG ! - Microsoft flight simulator Quest 2 Guide.

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Riva Tuner - www.guru3d.com/files-get/rtss...
Side Quest - www.wingetgui.com/apps?id=Sid...
OpenXR Toolkit - mbucchia.github.io/OpenXR-Too...
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Voice commands and checklists (Voiceattack app)
Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (2004 build)
Desktop i5-9600k
RTX 3080 12GB
Motherboard - Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Elite
Water Cooler Deepcool Captain 240EX V2, 240mm
Memory (RAM) 2 x 8.00 GB (16GB 3000mhz)
SSD 128 GB
HDD 500GB 7200rpm
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Camera Movement using a DIY HeadTracker + OpenTrack (free)
Logitech C525 Webcam
-How it works1 - • GOSTA DE GAMBIARRA?
-How it works2 - • HEADTRACK
-How I build mine - • FreeTrack (FSX/P3D) Fa...
-How I set it up - • Calibrando seu TrackIR...
An even cheaper and easier alternative - • TRACK IR com QRCODE AR...
-My ridiculous adapted joystick with pedals:
• GOSTA DE GAMBIARRA?
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MSFS 2020 settings (September2020) - imgur.com/f3Y7tBs
RTSS - 1/2 refresh rate (60hz monitor)
Pilot2ATC for ATC
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P3D V5 hf2 Addons and settings:
FSLABS Airbus A320F
PMDG - NGXu 738
Aerosoft A32F
Carenado - C208 / PA31
ORBX Global
Swift VATSIM client
ActiveSky weather
FSEconomy
ProATC/X
FS2Crew
AI Traffic - Custom built with FLAi models and AIG flight plans
P3D V5 settings (July2020) - imgur.com/a/vVBFTub
Nvidia Driver Settings : Locked at 30fps for V5
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X-Plane11.50b17 Addons and Settings
Zibo 737
Tollis A319 A321
Pilot2ATC
3jFPS plugin
Enhanced Cloudscapes (volumetric clouds)
X-Plane11.50b17 (August 2020) - i.imgur.com/urbd1Nj.png
Nvidia Driver Settings : Vertical Sync = 1/2 refresh rate. (60hz monitor) for X-Plane

[@davefulford8890]

Superb..! I love all the different ways people come at solving the same issue. Cheers Dave

[@aquafx00]

Great explanation and worth watching again. I have found Quest 2 setup a nightmare. Very much appreciated! Thanks

[@fsprimo]

Glad it helped!

[@luckyknot]

Thanks a lot for this incredible tut!!

[@ASchneider]

Parabéns novamente, excelente tutorial! Obrigado.

[@fsprimo]

precisando tirar alguma dúvida é só chamar Antonio !

[@fabioseverini4661]

Grazie!! Perfect!

[@Swampfox87]

great video, I hope it still works in 2024, gonna try that setup to see if it gets better. Thanks for the video.

[@aldousorwell8030]

Thank you sooo much for your most valuable and complete video on this topic and I searched a lot :-) Most underrated on youtube! Your great tips are gold, mostly how AND WHEN the settings apply to a program and how to don't to mess around switching headset and edit PC settings. Supercool, your tips and settings brought me a big step further (AMD 3700X / 6750 XT) Thank you again! Which overlay-tool do you use? I'm only fiddling around with the oculus HUD.

[@fsprimo]

thank you so much for this kind words, I’m not using any overlay that I remember

[@paulmann8675]

Tried most of the settings last night and it was a game changer for my quest2 3080 and my new 5800x3d It’s never been so clear but I did use a different setting open. XR tool at the top to FSR which made it have so much clarity

[@fsprimo]

Glad I could help you Paul. Thanks for this message!

[@MLCAgaming]

I have the same CPU and a 2070 super. I get the limited by thread message and fps range from 25 in big cities to 45 in country land. Most settings between medium and low doesn't even change FPS at all, it's weird.

[@fsprimo]

@JustFishing As I said in the video, if you have variable FPS, its impossible to have smoothness, no matter what you do. You need to have your fps regulated by the headset refresh rate, if you turn it down to 60hz, you will need to see 30 fps using "Force 45fps, ASW Disable" (that is 1/2 refresh rate of 60hz) inside oculus debug tool. After that, your goal is make sure you have headroom to generate more than 30 fps all the time, that way your frames will always bee smooth. If it drop down to 29 fps, you will have a trash experience even being near the target that is 30 fps. - Put your ASW to Disable for a moment, Adjust your MSFS settings, FOV and Pixel override to generate at least 40 fps to be safe, and than activate "Force 45fps, ASW Disable" again.

[@moaciramaro8900]

Em relação aos controles de potencia do avião e controles de voo secundários, qual configuração você utiliza no em VR?

[@user-kz4ze4lv9n]

Happy New Year! Which network bandwith are you using? Is your PC connected via Ethernet to the router and the headset wireless 5Gh? This is my configuration, but I'm definitely guessing whether the bottleneck could be the Internet connection, which is limited to 60-70 MBit from the access point linked via cable Cat 7 to the pc. Don't know what else I can think of... As usual, thx in advance.

[@fsprimo]

I don’t have wifi at home. And as the simulator is a seated “game”, I don’t care about wireless. I’m only using cable/ so infinite bandwidth. I’m using something about 600mbps It’s one less issue to worry about

[@sixoagency]

Thank you so much this was really good! Followed the instructions and found the playback to be super smooth but my Quest is glitching it seems, know this is likely a setting somewhere, random black/white bars when flying. The game itself when you're watching was incredibly smooth and FPS was locked consistently.

[@fsprimo]

Never saw those black and white bars in my flights,I use to have those glitches only when using DX12. make sure yours it’s in dx11 too

[@jacobitejake]

I've come to the conclusion, after some hours of messing around watching yours and many other videos, the amount of settings and tweaking needed to get the thing to run through quest is just not worth it, going back to 2d, relief! One day when it's plug and play I may consider having another go, but with so many variables due to each pc being different, it's just not worth the hours trying to sort it out, such a shame :(

[@fsprimo]

To be fair, today to start the MSFS, XP11 or P3D, I only need to make 4 or 5 clicks and start flying. In the first look it sounds complicated, but you get use to it. The problem for me is try to go back to 2D or use joysticks again. The quest controllers are absolutely magic when you are using it to fly and set things inside the cockpit, It feels like you're doing that in real life.

[@fsprimo]

Look at my interactions in this video, the sizes and distances that you need to reach to set things up in the cockpit its all like in the real life. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGTPd42misqlec0

[@Bawdog4]

can you show your settings for p3dv5? i know it shows in the description buts its two years old and with an old GPU it seems. thanks

[@fsprimo]

You'll not believe, but its exactly the same. Think a little, I don't use any eye candy in the sim, just things that are essencial for the flight operation, so my sim settings will almost be the same every time. Nowadays the only one thing that is higher is the resolution inside VR headset to avoid anti-alising issues

[@ralfvetter6962]

Great Video 👍 I try to configure my Quest 3 with your settings but due to the higher resolution the Quest 3 has it gets difficult… Since you are now also using a Quest 3 what different settings (Resolution/OpenXR_Tool/Debug_Tool) are you using in comparison to the Quest 2 settings in this video? Another question: Did you manage to use the push/pull buttons on the MCP of the Fenix with the motion controllers? I activated the „locked mode“ but I‘m not able to set 2 buttons of the motion controller to either push or pull the buttons…

[@fsprimo]

Quest 2 I was using with a 3080, the quest 3 its with a 4080. So I was Able to use 1.3x in oculus software and also 1.3x in debug tool supersampling, Econde bitrate to 450, FOV still 0.7 and 0.7 - This is a personal preference but have a HUUUGE impact in performance. To use the MCP , try to watch this video in the link below. You will understand how to set things up using secondary and tertiary functions on your controller. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqO7qXmdiL-eoK8

[@ralfvetter6962]

@@fsprimo Thank you for these information. I‘m gonna try that. I‘m using a RTX 4070Ti and a Ryzen 9 7900X3D so I might have to lower the settings a bit. I also already tried to fiddle around with secondary and tertiary functions to use for the motion controllers but wasnˋt able to find a Fenix setting to assign buttons for pushing or pulling the MCP knobs that I could then use as secondary or tertiary function on the controller.

[@fsprimo]

@@ralfvetter6962 I followed this video that I posted for you and it works flawlessly

[@TheGoldbergFamily]

I am trying to follow your guide in this video. I am not using mirroring but everything else I am trying to follow. When my plane is sitting at the runway with nothing else happening, my 3090 GPU is jumping all over the place, first from numbers in the 50's and 60's to 90-95. I dpon't understand why flightsim.exe would be jumping back and forth so much from low GPU utilization to high utlization while essentially doing almost nothing. Ideas ??

[@fsprimo]

If the fps is no locked at 30 (quest at 60hz) or 36 (quest at 72hz) try to change the Vsync to 'fast' in the MSFS profile at Nvidia control panel.

[@Pe11ePD]

Thanks you for your settings, but they are contradicting my settings a lot. I have 3090, and even can't get steady 36fps at 72hz, at 2500px res via OXR tool, and GPU is working at 90%. 60hz is too flickery in the headset, not good for the eyes at all. When I tried 60hz first time, I ended with visible flickering in my eyes after the short VR session, no thanks. :) I'm also using ASW (as I search for smoothness without visible frames), and FOV at ~0.95, as without glasses I can see black edges below that value, and that kills the immersion. Your explanation did makes me wonder though, why I have the stutters. There is no room for Oculus process in the GPU cycles! I will try to change encoding resolution to 2016 and test (currently at 36xx).

[@fsprimo]

Remember, I came from an 9600k with an GTX1660 , every bit of fps matters at that time, 60hz its not comfortable at all, everybody knows that. I'm a pilot, so eye candy stuff are not anything near my priorities, if you're not being able to get 36fps in a 3090, you need to think about this priorities too. FOV its a huge performance aid, if you are struggling to approach in JFK for example, you need to think ahead and plan reduce to .8 at least just for that scenario. And again, VR its not a win win every time, you need to loose something to get it right. And I hate ASW ... period.

[@user-kz4ze4lv9n]

Well done video; are you using cable or Air Link?

[@fsprimo]

Cable

[@user-kz4ze4lv9n]

One more question: have you experienced and noticed significant differences in quality and rendering using Quest 2 and 3 with X-Plane?

[@fsprimo]

Same, only new lenses, clear edge to edge. To be fair, I lost a little bit of performance because with quest 2 I was able to set the screens in 60hz (lock in 30fps) and the quest 2 is 72hz minimum, so my sim need to run at 36fps, (20% more frames)

[@user-kz4ze4lv9n]

To tell the truth, I still get a msg when I start ODT saying that "pc hardware doesn't meet the minimum requirements", despite of a PC equipped with I 13600k, 4070, 32 GB RAM, NVIDIA driver just updated, etc....guessing whether the problem could be at this step, before even jumping in X Plane.. will try again in two days, hoping that new year will come with no warnings on pc 😀

[@guylarochelle9793]

60hz is way too low. I usually run at 90hz and then lock the ASW to 30 fps. It’s butter smooth. I’m on an Intel i7 10700 and RTX 3080. Try Oculus Tray Tool instead, along with OpenXR Toolkit.

[@fsprimo]

Yeah, I use 90hz and asw 30hz too (OTT), but there's some stutters in some occasions because 90hz will always use a lot more GPU resources than 60hz for low spec systems.

[@GUNNERBASS]

I want to try this method out to compare. Are you setting the 90hz in the Oculus App or Sidequest? In your example what is Oculus Tray tool replacing compared to this example? Thanks 🤙🏽

[@womplestilskin]

Is 10700f and plain 12gb 3060 enough for MSFS to be smooth with consistent pace like you say? I would also like it to look good.

[@fsprimo]

Absolutely yes. Before this setup I was flying using a 9600k and GTX1660 Super with no problem.

[@fsprimo]

You need to reset your expectations a bit , you are not using a 13900k + 4090, but It will work fine

[@GUNNERBASS]

Thanks for the tutorial! A few questions: Why use Riva Tuner at all? You can see an FPS counter in OpenXR Toolkit to confirm the 30fps lock. Also, in the Quest App, my slider at 72hz shows a 1.3x multiplier when maxed out? Following your tutorial yields my GPU (3080) performance around 50%. The flight is smooth but would really like the distance to be less fuzzy. Last, how did you do the math to come up with 2016? If I bump up the FOV Tangent to .8 or .9 should that value change? Thanks 🤙🏽

[@fsprimo]

I use riva tuner to lock the FPS when in cruise or when I'm not looking for the screen, this is to maintain the GPU temperature lower (from 80 to 61°) The quest at 1.3x its ok, you will use the super sampling multiplier in the ODT anyways. About using 50% of GPU performance, you will need to adjust to your needs, if you are having no stutters and the performance is stable, you can crank it up to 70% usage or even more. Nowadays with a new Processor 13600k, I'm able to increase the resolution from 2016 to 3500 and have the same GPU usage, again, this depends on your system, change it, restart it and see for your self how it behave All the settings that I mentioned in this video are the most CPU/GPU hungry. My goal is to show people where they can try to squeeze more performance. People have fear of test those things out, that's why I made this video.

[@GUNNERBASS]

@@fsprimo gotcha and yes I just spent a good 4 hours experimenting. Appreciate you teaching the general approach for sure. I ended up using 3664 for the encoder width and .75 FOV Tangent which greatly improved the look. Also set Distortion Curvature to low. I’m around 70-87% now, but that’s with 72hz. Oddly, when I bump up the encoder width, it seems to not like the Sidequest 60hz trick to lock in 30fps. I get major hiccups as soon as try 60hz so I gave up. It works at 2016 fine. Only issue now is, in 72hz with the mentioned settings, when I look out the cockpit to the left and right while moving, things messy with terrain and buildings. Almost looks like double vision. Currently troubleshooting. Any ideas?

[@fsprimo]

Its hard to say what is going on, Try to make a video capturing your screen and upload here for us to see.

[@GUNNERBASS]

@@fsprimo figured it out but unexpectedly. I mistook your settings and did 45fps, ASW disabled. Setting it to enabled solved the double vision at 72hz but there were still stutters and bad performance with motion. I also had to go to 1.2x in Oculus at 72hz. For whatever reason the 60hz trick with Sidequest wouldn’t remain stable for me no matter what. Not even exiting and resetting to 72 (default) worked, once it went haywire. After trying a million settings, I decided to give DX12 a go and voila. The 60hz trick works and is stable. I was able to bump back to max resolution in Oculus also. So basically by switching to DX12 I was able to follow your tuturiol perfectly and I maxed the encode up to 4092, and set bitrate at 500. Not sure why DX12 made it better since everywhere I read bad things about DX12 and MSFS (and other games as well). I’m now using your technique in conjunction with OTT which makes life a lot easier. Can’t wait to try this out in other games now too! Really interested to see how this might work with Star Wars Squadrons! Thanks again 🤙🏽

[@fsprimo]

@@GUNNERBASS I'm Glad you found a good solution for your hardware ! Every setup is different !

[@jeanmarc1274]

Thank you ! But i'm enable to find that Oculus_Mirror.bat file, can you show me the path please ?

[@fsprimo]

you need to create that file, look at internet how to do that, it’s easy

[@jeanmarc1274]

Thank you ! I will try

[@edersondias4517]

Fala Tadeu, olha excelente vídeo, aliás foi o único que conseguiu deixar incrível meus gráficos, porém continuo com um pouquinho de lagging e minha GPU usage fica em 98% e a temperatura na casa dis 75, impossível, tive que parar, meu PC é um i7 16G com uma RTX 3060, se eu aumentar a RAM pra 32 eu melhoro isso de alguma forma ? Qual seria a solução, obrigado !!!

[@fsprimo]

Teoricamente RAM não não vai aliviar nada do que vc está tendo ai ! Uso excessivo de GPU nunca é ideal, Você precisa trabalhar com ela no máximo a 80% da capacidade. Só se consegue fazer isso tendo formas de não permitir uso máximo de FPS, sempre limite por algum fator, (half refresh do óculus, por exemplo - Como uso 60hz no meu, ativando o ASW ele automaticamente limita em 30fps) Outro fator é resolução. Eu aqui fico alterando a resolução 'on the fly' ... quando chego em alguma localidade mais pesada, KFFL por exemplo, baixo pra 1.0 de resolução no Pixel Per Display Pixel override do Debug tool, abro e fecho o VR de novo CTRL+TAB. Quando saio de lá, volto para 1.5 etc. FOV é o segredo tb... uso muitas vezes até menos que 0.7 e 0.7

[@Hyestar]

First of all how the heck do you get it so that you don’t see to lenses on your monitor???

[@fsprimo]

Oculus Mirror that I mention at least 3 times.

[@CaribbeanSimPilot]

I don’t have the 60hz refresh option, just 72 and 90.

[@fsprimo]

You will need to have the same SideQuest app that I put in the video description for download.

[@flying_pilot]

@@fsprimo that advice saved my day !!! could you please highlight this comment. I think other people troubleshooting this issue would be glad to hear they simply have to download another version. Thanks in advance

[@user-kz4ze4lv9n]

Anyone tried the same actions with X Plane? Seen significant improvements?

[@fsprimo]

I use same oculus settings for X-Plane

[@user-kz4ze4lv9n]

Thanks for the prompt answer, and with the same settings is the quality on the headset more or less the same or definite better on FS (as I've read somewhere)? Thx again

[@fsprimo]

we are comparting oranges and bananas here.. MSFS have a modern graphics engine (and a pre historical flight model) The graphics in MSFS are lighter to run, and miles better , no doubt about it. (But who cares?)

[@cmtesiqueira2185]

Oi Tadeu, voce teria um tutorial em portugues?

[@fsprimo]

Ve se esse te ajuda kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5ndkqOKos6rabM

[@tiagosifuentes]

FSPrimo! Tenho um 10700 e uma placa RTX4070. Não consigo passar de 28fps e o jogo está ficando largado, fora que as letras não.estao muito legíveis. O que poderia ser?

[@fsprimo]

Segue o vídeo, tenho dois deles aqui ensinando o que eu faço

[@tiagosifuentes]

@@fsprimo não entendi... O vídeo eu já segui e fiquei confuso. Poderia me resumir.o que eu preciso fazer diante do meu setup. Pode ser bem sucinto. Ficarei muito grato.

[@tiagosifuentes]

@@fsprimo outra questão que percebi, e que as.configuracao dentro do jogo não interferem praticamente em.nada no jogo no modo VR, pois percebo que o FPS sempre fica perto do 30 sentando no ultra no no baixo. Então só pode ser a configuração no oculus.... Acredito eu....

[@fsprimo]

Pode ser algum problema mesmo, eu com uma GTX1660 já voava sempre acima de 45fps (travado a 30, metade dos 60hz) Uso Windows 10

[@fsprimo]

Se você com tudo no mínimo não conseguir pelo menos 100fps no seu hardware, algo bem errado deve estar acontecendo

[@jonwait]

Thank you, i tried your settings, unfortunately the quality is awful, i did all the steps, indeed it’s very smooth right in front of you, but the landscape is awful and very jiggering if you move too fast the aircraft or your head. Also it’s very pixelated. For sure, your GPU and CPU can only feel good if you ask to render nothing as low resolution :/ But flying slow, it’s smooth and saving cpu/gpu. And i’m using a rtx3090 and ryzen7 5800x I’m affraid it’s the quest2 who’s bad quality.

[@fsprimo]

I don't think so. Quest2 is serving me very well. Today I'm using quest 3 and 4080. Now I'm bumping the resolution and using a large FOV that make the sim indescribable good.

[@richerdyjoseph3222]

Gostaria muito desse vídeo em Português.

[@fsprimo]

usa as legendas captain, mas tenho outro em português no canal tb!

[@fsprimo]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5ndkqOKos6rabM

[@gordonrobertson585]

Wow, sooo much information in such a short time..too much infact. You obviously know your stuff, but I cannot follow, so wasted on me.

[@fsprimo]

Thanks bro !

[@agustinmisaza]

GOT LOST IN 2:22 HOW DO YOU CREATE THAT .BET FILE?

[@fsprimo]

@@agustinmisaza try to find on internet "how to create a *.bat file" that's not the propose of this video