Unveiling the Fix: Resolving Graphical Glitches using my Quest 2 VR for Microsoft Flight Simulator

It’s high time 😉 I sorted out this annoying graphical distortion. It’s been happening when I use my Meta Quest 2 VR headset to play Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020. Come with me as I work through the settings, trying to understand why it is happening and how I go about finding a fix. I take a look at my MSFS settings, as well as the VR Friendly Prop Mod, OpenXR Toolkit and the Oculus Tray Tool settings. I’ve documented the process to share how I found the issue in the hopes that you too may have more tools to investigate your own issues.
Artificial Aviation is a KZbin channel I created to share my affection for aviation and flight simulation. Like most people, I can’t afford to own an airplane or get a pilot's license right now. The Simulator gives me access to miles of beautiful skies and scenes.
So! If you’re the kind of person who fancies flying, yearns for the yoke and just plain wants wings, you’ve come to the right place! Share my journey as I go from novice to… ok, not so novice. Looks like we’re cleared to land on runway 2-fun!
Links:
VR Friendly Prop Mod MULTI PASS
flightsim.to/file/20719/vr-fr...
OpenXR Toolkit
mbucchia.github.io/OpenXR-Too...
Oculus Tray Tool
www.apollyonvr.com/oculus-tra...
Addons:
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Piper PA-28R Arrow III by JustFlight www.justflight.com/product/pa...
Lydd International Airport (ICAO code: EGMD) burningbluedesign.com/product...
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:17 The problem
3:46 The prop mod fix
7:41 Performance measuring tools
9:57 Turn down graphics settings
10:28 What is a good frame rate?
12:26 Let’s try OpenXR settings
15:36 Frame rate tuning
17:16 Motion reprojection
19:36 Oculus Tray Tool Settings
21:13 The solution

[@artificialaviation]

I want to take a moment to say a huge thank you to everyone who has watched this video, liked it and subscribed to the channel so far. This has been, by far and away, my most popular video yet. I’m still new at making videos, but I'm constantly learning and working to try to improve what I do. This kind of response energizes my passion and drives me to keep pushing to improve and learn. So, please fasten your seatbelts and return your tray tables to their locked and upright positions. Stay tuned, and I’ll catch you in the next exciting episode of Artificial Aviation!👍

[@XAMBUSH1X]

flying in msfs vr is a great stress relief but the amount of stress you go through to get there is alot greater

[@artificialaviation]

Hey there! Thanks for watching and reaching out. It’s awesome when people relate to what they see in the video. It can definitely be stressful but hang-er in there and keep flying the good flight 🛩️

[@capipj]

I truly understand you, we have to be super stressed in order to get that stress relief in VR MSFS :C

[@ferret1337]

if you can ever get it to download sure... and when it breaks? expect soul wrenching disappointment ,months of stress trying to fix it along with infinite download loops. it's like a spa day from hell.

[@b320max8]

LoL, everybody going crazy about VR flightsim guy-dude, who's convoluted performance tutorials do absolutely ZILCH, and then this guy with his 200 subs comes along doing an HONEST report that and proofing what I suspected: that the debug tool seems to not do anything with at least the quest 3!! I never thought about the tray tool! Thank you pal!

[@flyingpedal]

I hadn't this problem for my GA but my wiper of ATR flickering and also all panel for almost of my aircraft was blurry like in I saw in in water. Now all is back to the normal and big thanks for your video.Suscribed !

[@vrdrive2538]

Thanks for documenting this. Troubleshooting the graphic settings is a pain in the ass for flight simulators, especially VR.

[@roudylex]

45 FORCED WORKED FOR ME... After how many years.... Thank you!

[@artificialaviation]

Hey @roudylex, thanks for the feedback! I’m glad to hear you got it fixed. Sounds like that issue has been bugging you for a while. It’s good to know that the video was useful. Always glad to get some feedback. Enjoy some smooth simmin’ 🛩️✈️🚁

[@juanwhick1691]

Yea I get that weird stretch with my Comanche prop when it cranks and the wings look bad

[@Talkinnerdy1]

You did it! Good job!!!!

[@artificialaviation]

This problem had driven me nuts for weeks! I’ve been so busy flying and making videos that I didn’t take the time to look at it. I’m very glad that I finally did and now I can fly without all the wobbling! Thank you so much for your support!

[@Matthewthorn5]

What a great video. Couldn't agree more. More flying, less messing about with settings. We'll said!

[@artificialaviation]

Hey there @matthewthorndale-finn8991! I’m really glad you liked the video 😃 Thanks for watching, stay tuned and may all your flights be glitch free 🤞

[@randyg.1090]

Nice Job! That sounded remarkably like me trying to solve a problem (minus the words "bonnet" and "chuffed" ("chuft?")). There's nothing quite like smacking your skull against a wall (or problem), and finally finding the answer. Sub Earned.

[@artificialaviation]

We’ve all been there, right! This was a video I’ve been really eager to make. I was so “chuffed” (I use this to mean “happy” when "happy" isn’t quite.. enough) when it was fixed 😀 Thanks for subscribing and I hope you enjoy the videos to come! I’m just getting started 😉

[@TheSuperduperzach]

Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention, but it seems to me that when the frames don't sync up with what Oculus is trying to do, it creates serious artifacting, I didn't realize there was a tool called Oculus tray. Thank you so much!

[@pilotguy27]

Thanks for the video. One point. I never purchase mods from the Marketplace for PC. The reason being is Microsoft/Osobo encrypts the data of the mods that are purchased in the Marketplace. This can affect other 3rd party programs. As an example, my ATC program uses Make Runways from the makers of FSUIPC. It creates tables of the relevant information for the aiports that are installed so that the ATC program can use the information when assigning gates, taxi instructions etc.. If an airport is bought through the Marketplace, Make Runways cannot see the revelvant information for any airport purchased through the Marketplace. Additionally, updates for purchased mods always come out before the Marketplace adds the updates to their system. These are just a few of the reasons why, in my opionion, one should always purchase their mods outside of the Marketplace. Just my opionion.......

[@valajonny9162]

Normally I recommend disabling any form of Reprojection/ASW on any kind of simulator. The problem is that while you're moving, the vehicle or aircraft remains static in view while the world outside updates and the discrepancy between inside and outside is mostly visible at the edges of the windshield or windows - basically where the "static" part of the frame immediately transitions to the "dynamic" part. I usually had this problem with Euro Truck Sim 2 but any game where you're driving or piloting anything has this exact same problem.

[@artificialaviation]

Thanks for sharing! This is an awesome explanation 👏 One of the things I love about KZbin is how learning can be crowdsourced. I had also read that disabling ASW was supposed to give the best experience. I think that’s why I didn’t consider right away that this was the problem. I was happy that Oculus Mirror picked it up so I could share what was going on. I’m curious, you mentioned that you had this issue with Euro Truck Sim 2. Did you resolve the issue the same way or via a different setting change?

[@valajonny9162]

@@artificialaviation I fixed it the same way, I use Windows Mixed Reality so I disabled the Reprojection setting in SteamVR, but disabling ASW in Oculus/Meta fixes the issue just the same. Thankfully it's tied to the headset API, so you don't have to tinker with every sim or game.

[@pilotguy27]

TO get rid of the wobbly effect, turn off ASW when using any Oculus device. This has been the recommendation since the days of FSX and P3D. I never use it and never have the wobblies.....

[@TheSuperduperzach]

Subscribed

[@artificialaviation]

Thanks @TheSuperduperzach! It means a lot to me that you want to see more 😀 Stay tuned for more exciting episodes of Artificial Aviation! 🛩️

[@LouisianaRAPTER]

I’m having trouble hitting that sweet spot when it comes to using openXR. I’m going to go back and see for myself if it’s an ASW issue. Could be wrong. Btw, what gpu here?

[@artificialaviation]

Hey Smizzy18 👋 Thanks for reaching out. I feel your pain. It can be tough to get the sim running just right. It definitely takes patience. In answer to your question, I am running a Powercolor Hellhound AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT 20GB GDDR6. I hope you manage to get your sim running sweet 🤞 Thanks for watching and happy simming! 🛬✈️💺

[@tommygriffiths6911]

How do you open the Open XR menu in VR?? Cheers

[@artificialaviation]

Hey @tommygriffiths6911, you can open the OpenXR Toolkit window in the sim by pressing Ctrl + F2. I can’t believe I didn’t include that in the video 🤦‍♂️ I’ll be sure to include it if I do any other OpenXR Toolkit videos in the future 👍 Thanks for watching!

[@zaelu]

Turn off any motion reprojection ASW FSR or whatever the "fake frames" tech is called and you will have no glitches. Even the forced 45fps is another crutch that will show artefacts from time to time. Using Oculus link is difficult to turn off the native one of Oculus (asw) so try Virtual Desktop.

[@treyhedgepeth9598]

What computer hardware do you have?

[@artificialaviation]

Hey @treyhedgepeth9598, Thanks for your question! I’d be happy to share my hardware specifications with you 🙂 CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16C/32T Memory: Corsair 32Gb DDR4 3600Mhz CL18 GPU: Powercolor Hellhound AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT (20Gb GDDR6) HDD: Sabrent M.2 NVMe PCIe Gen 4 SSD With regards to the VR, I am using an Oculus Quest 2 headset which I connect via a cabled USB-C connection rather than the Oculus Air Link. I hope this answers your question. Stay safe and keep on simming! 🛫🛩️

[@bigg1103]

Does the tray tool work with windows 11?

[@artificialaviation]

Thanks for reaching out @bigg1103! That’s a great question. I’ve been using Windows 10, so I don’t really have any experience configuring this on Windows 11. That said, I’ve checked the developers website (www.apollyonvr.com/oculus-tray-tool). According to them they’ve “only tested in Windows 10” and that “there have been reports of issues on Windows 11”. If you don’t want to risk it, then the alternative would be to use the in-built Oculus Debug Tool (developer.oculus.com/documentation/native/pc/dg-debug-tool/?locale=en_GB). This does the same job as the Oculus Tray Tool. In my opinion the debug tool is not as good as the tray tool. I find it harder to get the settings to apply and stick with the debug tool. Hopefully this helps you get a solution to any issues you might be having🤞May your configurations be short and your flight times be long! Happy simming 🛩️

[@stefboule1]

Hey buddy! Good job troubleshooting MSFS in VR!! Is it possible to know your machine specs because my experience is very skippy in some cities (Large ones) My machine specs is I5 9400f 128gig ram and RTX 3090 24gig ram. CHEERS!!!! 🙂

[@artificialaviation]

Hey @Stefboule1! Thanks for the feedback! I was just so relieved to finally sort it out. It had been bothering me for ages! I’d be happy to share my PC specifications with you 🙂 CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16C/32T Memory: Corsair 32Gb DDR4 3600Mhz CL18 GPU: Powercolor Hellhound AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT (20Gb GDDR6) HDD: Sabrent M.2 NVMe PCIe Gen 4 SSD I have noticed that performance in the game, especially in VR can differ greatly between wide open spaces or high altitude flying and inner city, low altitude flying. When you think about it, it makes sense. Low to the ground, especially in cities, there is way more work for the system to do. I’ve noticed that the issue can be exacerbated at higher speeds as well. The faster objects on the screen move, the higher the frame rate and refresh rate needs to be to make that movement look smooth. One of the things I sometimes do, is reset my graphics to the lowest settings, and gradually turn everything up until I have a balance between performance and visual quality that I can live with. I hope you resolve the issue that you are having and can get back to enjoying the sim soon! 🤞🛩️

[@georgefaulk2528]

Only for Meta Quest Headsets. Need to change you title. I wasted 20 minutes on this video only to find this out.

[@artificialaviation]

Hey @georgefaulk2528 Thanks for taking the time to give me feedback! I’m sorry to hear that you feel this way, and I want to seize the opportunity to improve the viewing experience. “To err is human”. I want to start by assuring you that it wasn’t my intention to mislead. I work hard to avoid clickbait titles, whilst generating genuine interest in the topic I’ll be talking about. That said, I’m still new at KZbin and making videos, and so I accept that there will be improvements I can make. This video, like with all of my latest ones, is equipped with chapters to allow viewers to jump straight to the answer or moments of importance to save time. At the beginning of the video, I mention the chapters, as a reminder to viewers that they are available. Finally, I also attempted, in the description, to mention that I use a Meta Quest 2 in the first line. This was all in the hopes of avoiding a situation like this one. I did anticipate that this solution itself might not work for everyone, even other Quest 2 users. To this end, I attempted to add other value in the video beyond just the solution. In sharing the troubleshooting tools and process as well as other techniques, such as how I settled my framerate. I had hoped that, even if the solution didn’t work for the viewer, they wouldn’t come away empty handed. Regardless, I want to make this as inclusive of a viewing experience as possible. Whilst I still believe that all VR users can get value from this video, I recognise it is important to allow people to make that determination for themselves. Therefore, by the time you read this, you should notice that I’ve updated the title to give people that choice. Thanks for watching and keep on simming! 🙂

[@livingsouloftimestudio2887]

Dude you could have skipped , fpalms

[@georgefaulk2528]

@@artificialaviation I do aprrieate your efforts in helping, just please provide more info in title.

[@georgefaulk2528]

@@livingsouloftimestudio2887 First I'm not some dude, stop the name calling. Second I would of skipped if I had the right information. Learn to read a post before attaching someone.

[@livingsouloftimestudio2887]

@georgefaulk2528 hows Tht name calling? And it's not attacking anyone, just advice for the future cheers