Quest for Best Competitive Gaming Audio Pt. 3 - AKG K712 Pro & Beyerdynamic TYGR 300 R

Part three of the Quest for the Best Competitive Audio. Taking a look at the Beyerdynamic Tyger 300R and the AKG K712 Pro.
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[@Kpacks]

Can you please keep doing your journey? I love this kinds of vids. How you are comparing in game performance how you emphasizes the footsl steps and sound stages which are critical in battlefield games keep it up!!

[@YouTubeHandlesAreStupid]

Straight up - this is the best youtube review of a product I've ever heard, ever. You gave me the exact information I was looking for, and gave a detailed breakdown of your opinion on relevant topics that matter. True gamer stuff. Thank you. I even like the idea of the "quest for the best series"

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Thanks!

[@jonathantran5821]

Got so excited when I saw the upload! Thank you so much for taking comments in to consideration and following up with it. Literally my dream headphone comparisons all covered in this video.

[@ajayqlin]

This man never misses when it comes to headphones timing couldn’t of been better liking the video and I haven’t even watched it yet

[@kamsole]

Another banger review Freshy, in the market for a new audio setup so this is perfect timing!

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Love it!

[@gameneverend29]

This guy always make high quality comparison video. Thanks.

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Glad you like them!

[@PD-ws4td]

Great video! Definitely settling for the HD 560s.

[@haze5407]

great review and comparison. keep it up

[@Mrstella147]

Waiting for Audeze Penrose vs HD650s comparison! keep up the good work!

[@VinnyUnion]

What a nice rumbling deep voice it makes my whole headset shake and crack at the drivers

[@ilovehotdogs125790]

thanks bro, super useful info

[@Pablito5614]

Thanks for the review bro, the very day you compare the penrose vs the hd560s is the day I will buy one or the other.

[@dredgenwinchester9653]

hi! many Thanks for this series, its amazing! I'll always stay tuned, keep up the good work. if there are other DAC/AMP that you can recommend that would be awesome. I couldn't find the Mayflower where I am unfortunately, and don't want to order overseas because shipping is doubled most of the time. I'm using the Sennheiser GSX 1000 at the moment but looking to upgrade.

[@sorucha8249]

Holy shit, you reviewed the tygr and 560s for apex specifically...I was so torn between both of those, leaning toward the 560s. Now I can get the 560s without a doubt, thanks so much!

[@f_society9151]

Hi bro do you like them?

[@Akimbo_]

Love my TYGR 300 R, got them for $169 last black friday. Good versatile headset for gaming and music listening.

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Damn. That is a fantastic price!

[@haziri5118]

Me too, I just got for the same price today.

[@hammerfall6666]

how's the vertical imaging on tygr? is it accurate?

[@astrumis9279]

I have 300r's, do you think it's worth switching to 560s? You didn't mention verticality in the comparison. Warzone, BF4 for reference.

[@reckulurn3038]

Love the attention to detail when explaining the different headphones/headsets. You definitely give us confidence when putting our money down on an item you've reviewed. In your opinion how do the TYGR 300 R compare to the Beyerdynamic MMX 300 for competitive gaming?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Oh man now that is one tough call. The mmx300 are absolutely fantastic as well. They’re closed back so the sound stage isn’t as expansive. The sound is definitely closer. Directional audio is fantastic. They’re great for tac shooters but I feel the tygrs can get the job done too. If I had to pick I’d go tygr between the two

[@gmcd8312]

@@FreshReviewsYT I have the MMX 300'S with the Dekoni choice leather pads and though the sound quality is just incredible, I feel i struggle with pin point accuracy in FPS games. I current use a Magni 3+ plugged into my realtek motherboard audio. What is your audio settings in windows to get the best directional feedback in your headsets?

[@fliptout86]

Man another bad ass video thank you any ideas of which headsets are next?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Might try the as Adh1000x. Hear they are great!

[@4epa1012]

K712 can hit hard too if you EQ the bass, I actually like that on this model as it handles EQ like a boss and it doesn't distort as fast as other headphones like Fidelio x2hr.

[@John9tv]

Do you still have the same opinion in regards to tygr 300 over hd560s for Valorant? Thought i was gonna get an r70x or k702 but think I'll opt for a headphone that doesn't require amp instead.

[@rogerstark7403]

Thanks for this. I think I will get the Tygr 300r. You should compare these to the Hifiman Sundara next. Also, have you tried the HD 600? I don't recommend them for gaming, but for music listening and monitoring, you will love them if you like the HD 560s.

[@timmasters4893]

Awesome review!

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Ty!

[@averagegamer8866]

Hey Fresh, first of all love the videos you've earned a new subscriber! You've pretty much convinced me to get the HD 560s with a mod mic since I mostly play the games that you refer to when testing them. You've probably answered this like a million times already but I was wondering if there are any other dacs/amps that you would recommend that are a bit cheaper than the ARC Mk2?

[@lukenycz7967]

Coming back to your videos again. Been using the tygr 300r but overtime it feels like their soundstage is much narrower than i realized. The cheap superlux hd 668b have much better staging that i preferred but no bass at all. Some type of combination would be great for me. Good neutral sound with imaging and massive soundstage without breaking the bank. 560s soundstage was narrow for me as well.

[@soulfulfool]

cheap headphones with massive stage dream on, even if you find something it most likely wont have bass like you mentioned

[@underh1gh]

when will this quest end? madlad! (in a good way xD)

[@spas6128]

Thanks for the review. One thing to keep in mind with AKG headphones: I've had two on the K7 series. Both have clear plastic parts connecting headband to elastic band and they've broken on both headphones. They're not structurally essential, but still annoying at their pricepoint. Otherwise amazing cans for gaming.

[@Kageyasha88]

Hey Fresh, Thank you for your comparison. Really glad to see someone taking up the gamer perspective. For open world games would you still recommend the hd 560s or the tygr 300 R? I'm currently stuck between picking one of these. I would plug them straight into my controller. So I've read both would work well with only the controller. Thank you. And have a great day

[@martinvegas1327]

Will the Soundblaster x g6 power the K712? I just snagged my Dt990 and fancy a change. Thanks👍

[@-Karnage]

love my Tygr 300r's

[@masaters8345]

he listened and delivered

[@xtreemkiller7769]

Waiting for my tygrs to arrive. Other reviewers put this headset at number 2 or 3 so im sold. Second hand off ebay 70 pounds in used almost new condition 😊. Thank you for making these vids dude much appreciated.

[@xtreemkiller7769]

Update. Just received my tygrs and they cost less than any other headphone iv purchased. With minimal eq the tonal balance sounds lovely acroos the whole spectrum. with recessed mids and bass is nice tight and authoritive and running them off an xduo 05 plus. These are phenominal, just did some a b with my he400se and they sound awful in comparison. I was gonna pick up a meze 109 pro but i think il save 600 hundred quid. Listening to olevs sound test on the 109s and these tygrs sound so close to my ears.

[@SaintBelmontx]

@@xtreemkiller7769thanks for the update, I’ve been planning on picking up a pair. How is the comfort?

[@xtreemkiller7769]

@@SaintBelmontx they're extremely light and one of the most comfortable headphones if not the most comfortable iv used. Gave them to my boy for his pc set up i now have a dt900 pro x.

[@SolariaIndra]

Just got some k712s, I'm an apex nerd, and also want to dabble in music production, and my setup is all orange and black, it seems perfect for me.

[@uul4289]

I see some people commenting that the sundara is not good for gaming? I disagree, I think the sundara are great for gaming! I've tried the sundara vs dt 1990pro I preferred the sundara. I use dolby atmos surround with harman target EQ by oratory1990 with reduced bass from 5.5db to 0db and increased airiness 0.5db for gaming atm, I recommen to try the same settings. my kd is 4.05 in apex so I'm a decent player, last headphones was sennheiser momentum 2 so it was a huge upgrade for me.. there are pro players that use 50$ IEMs and gaming headsets, so I think we can adapt to most headphones. but I'm curious what your opinion are! how the sundara compares to these headphones in this video and maby hd800s, Audio-Technica ATH-AD2000X, ATH-AD900X or some cheaper headphones like the philips fidelio x2hr. and if its worth to buy a new pair of headphones only for competetive fps shooters

[@PantsaBear]

Its not bad for gaming, I find that it just has a slight haze sound to the mids which make music less clear, and the brightness, while not piercing, gets in the way of other sounds you could be hearing. If you're comparing to the DT1990, then yeah you probably picked the better or at least as good option depending on your preferences. I own a Sundara, and while I can understand their appeal, I think they're not good universal headphones for competitive/single player/most music as others make them out to be. Prefer my AKG K712 much more for any kind of gaming and a good amount of genres

[@fliptout86]

Hell yea commenting before I watch the video I’m ready ooo yea

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Much love!

[@drownem2920]

TYGRs are fantastic but the DT880s (which are essentially the same headset) are slightly better. The only issue with the open back headsets is that footsteps can get a little drowned out and that's when ear buds become a higher tier.

[@Anonymous-mh4vi]

Pc38x or k712 what should I get for gaming

[@romantrukhin5298]

Have you tried the HD700?

[@diogosilvaatv]

Nice review, thank you ! Would be cool to see how the Hifiman Sundara or the Sennheiser HD660S stack up against the HD560S next, even thought they are at higher price points

[@SneakyBinHidden]

Hd660s is to intimate, the soundstage is almost non existent, for music its great for competitive gaming its garbo.

[@bandhanjha8563]

@@SneakyBinHidden have you used it?

[@pc_decisions8764]

560s stills having the edge. Sundara are a nice sounding headphone but these are more a inmersive headphone, super detailed and good enough soundstage, but music is number one on those.

[@FriendNotFoeBand]

I think it'd be great to see a review on some closed-back headsets like the Cloud Alpha (quirky, cheap, but highly competitive imho) or the Beyer MMX 300.

[@FreshReviewsYT]

I have videos on the mmx and cloud

[@MetalWithin]

When using the Sennheiser 560s with a mic, do you get any sound leak(echoing back into the mic)? @Fresh Reviews

[@greenteaenjoyer9068]

Im not him but am using the 560s with the same mic and it works perfectly, no echo at all.

[@MetalWithin]

@@greenteaenjoyer9068 cool, ty

[@greenteaenjoyer9068]

@@MetalWithin Actually my mates say that my mic sounds better than the one of my HyperX Cloud II. Kinda crazy considering this external mic was so cheap

[@Rokkit.]

Out of curiosity what are dac/amp are you powering these headsets with currently. I have the soundblaster x3 and using the pc38x with it and it is complete garbage for positional audio, footsteps get blended in when there’s multiple people rushing you from different angles gives me fcking anxiety. I just bought the tygr 300r’s online and now looking at the Arc mayflower II or the schiit hel, but I want to use what ever dac/amp your using cause it seems to be working good for you.

[@FreshReviewsYT]

My setup is rather expensive. I recommend the ifi zen dac v2. I personally use the topping e50/L50

[@RiGGz_]

Me again, I got my TYGR 300R yesterday and unfortunately I found myself not liking them too much. Other options I'm looking into now are the HD560s and the HD58x. Looking for decent soundstage as well as a little bass but I'm not entirely sure what to go with. Any help would be appreciated.

[@FreshReviewsYT]

The new 900 pro x is fantastic or the 560s. My top pick for my own personal gameplay is the 900 pro x

[@booser71]

Great review from a pro which is important because gamers need specific headphones for our games. By the way I’ve been using Sennheiser HD 598 for the past 8 plus years plus for gaming love them.

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Ty! Might need to try them

[@booser71]

@@FreshReviewsYT they have been replaced by the HD 599 essentially a refresh of the 598

[@brucelee5849]

Yes finally

[@ReedHopkins]

Have you tried the hd 660s yet? I’m super conflicted between the hd 560s and hd 660s because I’ve heard excellent things about both.

[@FreshReviewsYT]

The 660s are beautiful, but I think the 560d take the cake for me personally for gaming. Music I’d choose 660s, games definitely the 560s

[@dennisoo7610]

560s seems to be the one topping the others on the quests so far. My decision might be coming to a close idk is there more option i should take a look at other than the ones in this quest so far?

[@RabbitConfirmed]

Take a look at his newest video. The DT 900 might be your choice.

[@timati12321]

@@RabbitConfirmed I've spent many hours checking for reviews and tests because I can't decide if I should get the Tygr 300s or the dt 900 pro x. Everybody has mixed opinions about them and its so difficult to choose. I might just buy both try them out and send one back

[@moonmessiah9368]

660S or Modded 58X are still my go too. great all around headphones, with a soundstage thats just right and not too wide and an emphasis on clean imaging.

[@yodaholic9494]

The review i was looking, for sub'd! couple questions. What's your experience not having any side tone from your mic since you're using Arc mk2? Does it not matter much since they are open back and you can still hear your own voice. Side tone is something i'm just very accustom to. I can't decide if i should get an amp/dac that supports it, or go with something more powerful like the mk2. Thanks for the review!

[@FreshReviewsYT]

You’re absolutely on it! Because the headsets are open back I hear myself well enough to not really need side tone

[@yodaholic9494]

@@FreshReviewsYT ah so i should prioritize quality sound in amp/dac and not just go for things marketed as "gaming". thanks for the insight!

[@FreshReviewsYT]

@@yodaholic9494 yea! For instance I didn’t like the G6 a whole lot or the GC7. Felt the mayflower was much more clear

[@yodaholic9494]

@@FreshReviewsYT i was looking at the g6 as well as the GSX1000 from Sennheiser. But I most likely won't use 7.1 surround...maybe for an open world game or something.

[@GW2_Community_Is_Autistic]

I have the k712pro, and do love them, but the comfort, as you've mentioned, is so far behind the hd500 series from sennheiser (had the hd555, hd558 and hd598). I was thinking of grabbing the hd560s if they were on sale this black friday, but how is the sound stage compared to the k712pro? I do know that k712 has one of the biggest sound stages, but how far bhind is the hd560s? Is it comparable to something like the HD598?

[@YTjuanchicod]

you try de 560s already?

[@GW2_Community_Is_Autistic]

@@YTjuanchicod Have been using them for a year.

[@YTjuanchicod]

@@GW2_Community_Is_Autistic and how do you compare against the AKG K712 for competitive gaming? In terms of imaging and soundstage for footsteps

[@GW2_Community_Is_Autistic]

@@YTjuanchicod Way better than the k712 when it comes to accuracy and how clean the sound is. The K712 had a bigger soundstage, but footsteps could feel like they sound muddy and not crisp. It wasn't bad, but there is a noticeable difference and improvement with the 560s. Unless you have like $800 to burn on a pair of headphones, i don't see anything being better for gaming if sound clarity is important. Sold all my headphones, and are only using the 560s for everything now.

[@YTjuanchicod]

@@GW2_Community_Is_Autistic thanks bro. I think the only headphone im curious about is the Shure 1840, but like you said, it's 500

[@bastiiiii]

is there a difference interms of the coating between the black and the white xenics titan gx air? If yes, which is better?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Not that I noticed

[@sedraniM]

Did you suggest to try the AKG K702 instead of the K712 for gaming?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Haven’t tried the k702 yet

[@freeq333]

Hi :) . Quick question, what are the differences after wearing Dakoni pads? Maybe it's time to check planar headphones? Something like Hifiman HE400i or Sundara? :)

[@FreshReviewsYT]

I actually did the he400i but sundara are next for sure!

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Also, the dekoni pads, separate and apart from comfort, do change the sound. I felt things for a little more clear with the lows. Overall not too much different than stock though. It wasn’t as drastic if a change compared to swapping earcups on the mmx300

[@allak1n]

Do you use dolby atmos for headphones or any virtual surround solutions with these or just use them as is?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

As is

[@j.d.4697]

For me it was between the Beyerdynamic DT880, the AKG K712 Pro and the Sennheiser HD 560S. I was sure it would be the K712 for me but surprisingly I really disliked the sound. Meanwhile I fell in love with the 560S. I really liked the DT880 too but the closer soundstage and sharper highs made it more fatiguing to listen to and I didn't feel like it had as good imaging either.

[@pc_decisions8764]

I have the k712, k7XX , tygr300r and PC38X and I have mainly 2 combos, the qudelix 5k (for the pc38x) and jdslabs Atom dac + amp. Not gonna lie, the sennheiser are gaming beast and i put them over the tygrs not just for being easier to drive and the mic, but also it has a similar bass and show footsteps easily, but k712 are HD800s levels of detail with a good amp, making it good also for music. Im pretty sure that hd560s thats sits right in the middle but since those are so neutral it makes them boring in comparison, but easily a recommendation over the well established dt990. Consider watch DMS hd560s vs hd6xx vs tygr300r, it has a similar comparison but is focused on music Short story: HD800 > HD800s > k712 pro > hd560s = pc38x > tygr300r = dt990 > k7XX Ps: tygr300r uses the same driver as dt990 32ohm and making it immediately similar to dt1990 pro.

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Agreed! Great write up

[@adukeken861]

Just got the K712s and my God they are so so good for gaming. Pure accurate bliss.

[@r99evo]

Do you use a DAC or an amp? Tell us more about your audio setup 🙂

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Yea! I use a mayflower arc mk2 and no surround sound audio settings

[@LordRamses22]

So if i am playing RPG games, racing games that are in need of little bit bass for immersion, I belive Tyger 300R is good ?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Yea should be great!

[@electr0pvnch]

excellent vs bewteen those 3 headphones

[@al_kaloid]

Interesting take and thorough, yet concise review. As someone that happens to own both the 712 and the TYGRs for some time I definitely share most of your views, I feel the bass quality (not quantity) of the AKG 712 definitely exceeds that of the TYGR however (haven't tried the 560S). IMO it also reaches deeper into subbass territory. Both are great headphones for the price, but they aren't flawless either. Despite the gel pads and the light construction, the 712s definitely aren't as comfortable as the TYGR 300R. The TYGR 300R are very comfy, fun to listen to and have great imaging for the price, but they definitely lack that bit of resolution. I got my AKG 712 for 199€ here in Europe.. looking on AMZN US, 360$ is quite steep in comparison. Haven't tried the 560S and probably won't (afaik they're not as euphonic and/or resolving as the other cans and I also use these to listen to music), but they're definitely a nice addition from SEINheiser.. scnr ;) gotta meditate and practice your ZEN after these gaming sessions. Cheers

[@pingm24]

i don't know if you reply to videos that are a year old but im just gonna try, overall if i do most of my time gaming than movies and music, which would be the best in imaging of the three? 612, 702, or 712?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

I have not tried all of the options listed so it’s hard to provide an accurate response unfortunately

[@Nahar282]

Great comparison as usual! Btw did you have chance to use Astro A40TR ? If yes, how does it compare please to HD560S ?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

I think astros are woefully inadequate to provide a solid imaging experience. I used to love them, but once you crack into solid stereo audiophile grade it’s really hard to go back

[@WeAreN1nja]

You can't really compare to Astro headsets to actual headphones that specialize in audio. It's like your junior varsity high school team vs the NBA Olympic team. I was an Astro superfan; I had nine pairs of Astro A40/A50s. Then I heard a set of actual audio[phile] headphones. There really is no comparison. Like, at all.

[@Jamie-666]

Beyerdynamic - I have the MMX Mk2 gaming headset, which is basically a DT77 PRO with a mic. Make a TYGR with a boom mic, sorted.

[@v-co]

Another request here for you to compare the Sundaras by Hifiman. Great content btw!

[@FreshReviewsYT]

ty!

[@InfinityFishing]

Can you also make a video for single player pve immersion also for movies for us non competitive players just for immersion :)

[@RiGGz_]

TYGR 300R with Modmic USB vs PC38x? Out of the two, which mic and headphone audio sounds better?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Tygr

[@RiGGz_]

@@FreshReviewsYT hmm, would you happen to plan on checking out the Epos H6Pro?

[@riosmanco1079]

Hey are you trying the new mmx 100s ? i see a lot of split reviews, some people love it others just hated, im interested in see your opinion!

[@FreshReviewsYT]

I mgiht give it a go

[@gmil47]

Curious if you were able to find the Beyer dynamics available somewhere without the mic that was bundled? Would like to try the tygrs but don’t really need the mic that was included with it originally

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Unfortunately I couldn’t find it without the bundle

[@Frencho9]

Buy them directly from Beyerdynamics site and not from amazon. You have to pay shipping from europe tough. In europe they are very cheap 130 euros so about 160ish USD then about 20-30 USD for shipping.

[@gmil47]

@@Frencho9 thanks so much!

[@Hazureh]

Hey, love your reviews Man, I'm looking for the best Headphone I can get under 200€ (so without an amp) for competitive fps + music and video listening, and 2 of them seems to get praised so I can't decice. The HD560S and this TYGR 300 R. I want them to be as comfortable as possible (I wear glasses) over long sessions of gaming (I read the sennheiser were not that comfortable, is it true?). I play mostly Overwatch, Valorant, and some BR like Apex and Fortnite. I'm looking for the most precise directionnal audio possible. Is the more neutral sound signature of the HD560S better compared to the more "bassy" Tygr? Or do you think the sound profile of the TYGR makes it clear enough to ear everything happening at the same time despite the bass (especially footsteps)? Which do you think will suit me best and will they run good without an amp? Thank you so much if you take the time to respond.

[@FreshReviewsYT]

The 560s require more juice. The tygr should be great for you

[@Hazureh]

@@FreshReviewsYT thanks' a lot for your help. I'm going to grab them, the sound signature suits better my music tastes too (hip-hop & electro mainly), which is nice. Plus I read that the vertical imaging was better than on the 560s and they were the most comfortable, so it checks all my requirements. So excited to try them now!

[@FreshReviewsYT]

@@Hazureh haha hope you like!

[@KaledTV]

Thanks for they review. Have you tried using non fenestrated Dekoni pad or any other leather non fenestrated pads with the TYGR 300 R? I have fenestrated pads and would like to know how well non fenestrated ones work with the TYGR.

[@FreshReviewsYT]

I haven’t

[@KaledTV]

@@FreshReviewsYT Thanks again, your reviews are very helpful.

[@Stryker13799]

Hey, whats your PC specs?

[@mykisme]

hi Fresh, do you need to use an EQ for "loudness equalization/compression" for any fps games?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

I don’t. I’m default in Windows with no EQ and no surround sound options

[@mykisme]

@@FreshReviewsYT thank you for the reply. my shp9500 when facing multiple enemies gets jumbled. i hope the 560s would do a better job. keep it up, fresh!

[@FreshReviewsYT]

@@mykisme thanks!! I tried the shp next to the 560s and I felt like it was a huge leap! Hope you love them!

[@Yenlowang666]

Those are exactly the Headphones im struggling to decide which to buy. Could you tell me the inner Dimensions of the Pads? Comfort is king and if the ears hurt the best sound is useless.

[@EphraimSyriacus]

I have a big head, for example for mountainbiking I need at least a XL helmet. And I have the Tygr, and it is definitely very comfortable

[@ahmadfawzy5175]

Thx for the review . I have the HD 560s I bought it 3 weeks ago . and using it with an amp and sound blaster z or on board Realtek DAC but I cant set it well I cant figure out the problem I mean the sound stage isn't that wide and the imaging is not accurate besides cant define where is the movement is coming from up or down I tested it with a lot of settings but cant set it properly and by the way how do u play apex legends without using loudness or smart volume cuz the gun fire is too way loud than foot steps . the problem is if I used the loudness option it totally change the audio quality and ruin it . do I need an external DAC? or need a specific amp . I am using S.M.S.L SP200 AMP now . any help will be appreciated . by the way I bought it depending on your previous review . I like it but something need to be set properly .

[@FreshReviewsYT]

I’m not familiar with those amps/dacs, but they will play a role in the sound from the headphones. They’re essentially a sound card. Make sure your settings on whatever dac you’re using are set to neutral / flat with no surround sound options enabled. I do not use bass boost or any of that. Also, I don’t use smart sound or any of that either

[@ahmadfawzy5175]

@@FreshReviewsYT thx for the fast reply . I do use them without any additional option . I tried almost every settings but no luck with a best settings . I think gonna try my luck with an external DAC . so thx for your reply again .

[@Phantom_Nyan]

I would be absolutely insane and ask for a lcd-gx review :D but I honestly dunno what could convince you to get one since they are uber expensive

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Haha

[@themouselady275]

HD 560 S on top!!!!!

[@ALEX_JOTA]

Another great video! I have the HD560S and a soundblaster XG6. Which would be the best configuration on this DAC/AMP to get the most out of it. I am a Battlefield Player.

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Haven’t used that exact amp/dac but I usually keep all surround sound options off and keep a flat EQ with the 560

[@fbanget]

I personnally have the same setup. I use Direct Audio on the G6 but I do use Dolby Atmos. I find that it's the only surround engine that doesn't screw the sound quality. You have to pay for it though. Battlefield 2042 sounds phenomenal.

[@CoasterCoat]

Do you think the TYGR 300r are good for music? Like metal guitar music or rock

[@FreshReviewsYT]

I prefer something like the harmonicdyne Zeus for that, but beyer’s certainly produce great sound for both purposes

[@RayanAbedin]

Tygrs ftw

[@Abdelkrim.]

Great job, can u pls make another great video for philips shp9600 vs fidelio x2hr how they sound in apex and cs go pls 🙏

[@hawaiian-cerveza]

I just got the tygrs and I think it does well for gaming, it reminds me of a good dt1350 but I don't feel the soundstage is really large. I feel like they're just average. Not much bigger than my naked, balanced hd58x. When using the tygr with SE input via LCX+SDAC I felt it had more of a soundstage that I could tell what was coming from where. When using it with my balanced adapter, it brought the mids closer and presented a bit of a flatter sound. I could hear a lot of nuances are present but the soundstage than became more of a flat plane and a wall of sound rather than placement and distance. I like both ways of using it, I prefer the balance for music, but when playing games, the SE input was better. I want a larger soundstage and will go for the HD8XX.

[@hammerfall6666]

how's the vertical imaging on tygr? is it accurate?

[@hawaiian-cerveza]

@@hammerfall6666 feels fine. I dont really play many games that require vertical awareness.

[@ArianTashakkor]

Absolutely love your reviews man! I just purchased the 560S based on one of your older videos and it's coming today. However, now I feel like I need to know whether the 560s is better than the Beyerdynamic Tygr 300 R when it comes to directional sound. I play Rainbow Six Siege competitively and from time to time CSGO, Battlefield and Apex casually. Would you choose the 300r over the 560s? Which one would your rather give the edge to?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Really tough call. Comes down to whether you like a v type sound signature like the 300r has. The 560s so a better job keeping the sound neutral and clear to hear things while a lot is going on. The tygr 300 though has fantastic directional audio with a little bit added bass and “fun” to the sound. I actually haven’t tried the 560s yet in rainbow. Also, if at all interested I have a video coming soon of the harmonicdyne Zeus. I think I put the Zeus above both but they’re an extra $150

[@ArianTashakkor]

@@FreshReviewsYT Wow! Thanks for the great response! I definitely can't wait for the new video. After two weeks of thorough research and looking for the best pair of headphones for competitive fps gaming I came across your video and I was shocked. You finally helped me to make a decision and buy the 560s. Your videos are very underrated. Keep up the great work!

[@FreshReviewsYT]

@@ArianTashakkor ty!!!

[@f_society9151]

@@ArianTashakkor do you like them.?

[@ArianTashakkor]

@@f_society9151 Absolutely. You can't go wrong with the 560s.

[@Nik-hs3vg]

Hey fresh, love the content! Was wondering if you could share your settings for the Hd560s? Or do you just plug n play? Keep up the great videos! Cheers

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Plug and play and default windows settings. No surround audio

[@Nik-hs3vg]

@@FreshReviewsYT for warzone do you use boost low or any of the other mixes? Cheers for the reply!

[@FreshReviewsYT]

@@Nik-hs3vg when I played I used studio reference

[@aqibjaved5203]

I only play story games at home, no competitive game. Do you think Tygr 300r is a good choice for me or Should I go for 712 pro? Tygr is 139 euros and 712 pro 200 euros.

[@FreshReviewsYT]

The tygr should be great. I’d recommend the harmonicdyne Zeus as well. Beautiful for rpg music

[@aqibjaved5203]

@@FreshReviewsYT Thank you so much for the reply

[@combo9571]

Do you think It's worth it for me to get the Hd5x Jubilee's if I already have the Tygr 300r?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Probably not. Tygr's are fantastic

[@combo9571]

@@FreshReviewsYT thanks so much :D

[@Buckdax]

How's the tygr 300R today? looking to replace my g pro x's. I already have a Ek10 dacamp laying around

[@FreshReviewsYT]

It should work well.

[@Buckdax]

actually went with the 560s 5 minutes ago, 145$. I hope tod did good

[@j.d.4697]

My ears absolutely HATE "close" sounds which is why I tend to use some kind of virtual surround sound, like that by Creative, but the super open and wide sound stage of the AKG K712 Pro seems like I might finally be able to ditch stupid virtual surround.

[@rickygarcia1926]

Which one would be best for Warzone and Battlefield 2042 ? Thanks

[@FreshReviewsYT]

To be determined. Have not been able to test the game yet

[@xDawhite]

First of all i love your channel! Your reviews helping me alot to make my choice. There are not a lot competent channels out there that are mainly focused on FPS Audio/mices etc. escpacilly high players on a specific skill level. Are the Sennheiser HD560s still useable for small map games like Csgo? I usually play a variety of FPS games, apex to csgo. Which of those 2 headsets (sennheiser hd560s vs tygr 300) would you recommend for an all around headphone? Because i think you havent said anything about the small map performance of the hd560s maybe i missted it.

[@FreshReviewsYT]

It performs well, but I do like the 900 pro x a bit more for tac shooters

[@xDawhite]

@@FreshReviewsYT yeah saw those but im trying to stay below the 150€ mark. Right now im between the HD560s or Tyger 300R and cant decide. I can get both for around the same price of 120 Bucks right now

[@lukenycz7967]

if you already own either the Hd560s or the TYGR 300r, would it be worth getting the other?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Probably not

[@lukenycz7967]

@@FreshReviewsYT gotcha. Have you tried the new senn hd 400 pro open back?

[@emanoeel3754]

Will you be trying out the Xraypads Traigun?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Going to try to get a copy for sure

[@senpaiy0982]

Hi, would you take the Tygr over something like the DT 1990? I've been wondering what Beyer is the best for competitive game (love the Beyer sound sig)

[@FreshReviewsYT]

900 pro x is my favorite right now

[@senpaiy0982]

@@FreshReviewsYT Thanks! Been binging your videos haha, already commented this on another video of yours but how big is the difference between the Tygr's and the DT 900 x?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

@@senpaiy0982 Not very large. Not worth an entire upgrade if you already have Tiger. The imaging I would say has improved though, so if you want the best of the best, I do think they beat the Tygr by a bit. Not HUGE, but a good bit of difference

[@Jigxs]

@@FreshReviewsYT I only play competitive fps game like Valorant. What should I buy? Really need help on this. I've been eyeing on Shp9500 and 900 pro x

[@FreshReviewsYT]

@@Jigxs I love the 900

[@forgiivn]

560s worth getting if I already have the tygr 300r?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Probably not tbh. They’re both so good You should be ok !

[@FocusedWALK]

Thx for your vids mate. I picked up a pair of the 560s about a month ago. However I’m waiting on my micca origen 2 dac/amp which should arrive in the mail within 1/2 day. I tested them on my pc, it’s incredibly great sound for my game however it’s only about half the volume I need. I can’t wait to try them out with the amp. I’m curious if you have ever played “Hunt showdown” ?? it’s been my go to game for 4 years. Crytek build the sound design around Ballinier sound. I believe that the hd560s with the amp is going to be like cheating haha. I’m also thinking about getting a pair of dt 770s for when my wife’s in the room with me and the 560s will be too loud for her. Appreciate your videos

[@FreshReviewsYT]

I actually need to play hunt showdown asap. I need meaning to download it

[@FocusedWALK]

@@FreshReviewsYT honestly, your ears will thank you. Best sound design game imo. If you ever want to play a round or two I can show ya the ropes

[@shaunpp87]

6:24 an absolute and complete fucking 5head play.

[@nex3877]

Have you tried the 58X Jubilee?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Not yet

[@Princeton_James]

I thought the K712's were overpriced for what you get. I returned mine. They just didn't stand out.

[@djm24able]

I don’t get it it how have I never seen your channel till tonight I type in comments over and over exactly what you say. Trying to find something for apex legends that shows exactly where they are far as top second or bottoms floor, zip lines, etc etc. anyways I’m so glad I found your channel!

[@FreshReviewsYT]

Love you! And welcome! Haha

[@djm24able]

@@FreshReviewsYT lol your going to be binge watched tommorow 😂😂 what do you recommend for ps5 sir?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

@@djm24able I really like the 900 pro x. The audio gets loud even through the controller without an amp or dac

[@djm24able]

@@FreshReviewsYT man thank you so so much for the time you took to answer me! So the 560s is probably a little to quite without some sort of support system powering it isn’t it?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

@@djm24able yea I felt it didn’t get the full power it needed when I tested it. It sounded good through the controller but not how it does with a solid amp dac

[@millenwagon]

Literally a/b ing the Tygr and 560s now, so torn between them. The sennheiser sound more natural but the Tygr have better imaging and sound stage, the only downside with the Tygr is the mids sound a little muffled and strange at times and footsteps can be hard to hear, but the imaging is literally the best ever. The hd 560s image really well too, almost as good I’d say, but a bit narrower and closed in sounding. The Tygr are really quite airy. Both fab headphones

[@millenwagon]

@@Po7ent you’ll be happy with them for sure

[@hammerfall6666]

@@millenwagon how's the vertical imaging on tygr? is it accurate?

[@millenwagon]

@@hammerfall6666 I think it’s perfect yeah, never heard anything that images better tbh

[@kamael1125]

Just to clarify: when you talk about "higher base" you actually mean lower right?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

I mean more boomy, heavier, etc.

[@Lymph8]

Great video ! I was wondering what do you do for a microphone ?

[@FreshReviewsYT]

elgato wave 3

[@Lymph8]

@@FreshReviewsYT I purchased the k712 and need a headset mic suggestion not a streaming mic 😅