Questionable Stop Leads To Deadly Situation

[@ActiveSelfProtection]

I misspoke in the video. I said probable cause when I meant to say Reasonable Articulable Suspicion. Now the officer might have smelled jazz cabbage before saying so, but he definitely initiated detention before saying so. I stand by our analysis and should have been more careful in my words there.

[@justinedwards7693]

We all make mistakes John. We understand. Love you guys.

[@theketoentertainer]

John, I really enjoy your analysis for most videos, but sometimes you do tend to have a little bit of "diarrhea of the mouth". Don't get me wrong, everybody repeat themselves, but I've heard you use the wrong word on more than one occasion. There's nothing wrong with being imperfect, it's what being a human being is all about, I just wonder if you would consider writing a script prior to the video because I feel like a lot of the stuff you do is on the fly. Which is good, it's not like it's improper to do, but maybe sometimes for more controversial videos, perhaps a pre-written script. There's a couple of your other videos where I noticed you kind of say things that don't really seem to make sense, or repeat yourself ad nauseam. I do sincerely enjoy your content/wealth of knowledge and experiences hope it's OK that I make an observation it's not like I think your content isn't of high-quality. I certainly have learned a lot watching. You have helped my comprehension of human body language, grow even further, because for the most part, I only looked up, the body language of the opposite sax (yes, that's intentional) to decipher if they were coming onto me or not. And even though I have some comprehension of understanding when someone is violent. The fact that you pointed out specific cues that people do, especially furtive gestures, when analyzing if they are a threat or not.

[@theketoentertainer]

Oh, and I also enjoy your dad jokes/not so much dad jokes. I think you should consider being stand up, if you ever feel like dabbling, in other forms of entertainment.

[@tokyworld]

I hope Mike could enlighten us about smelling marijuana as reasonable suspicion. A lot of people think it's a bs reason since it's impossible to contest on the street and impossible to prove in court (regardless if actual marijuana is found). Im wondering if the police knowingly use it as a catch all reason to start a stop even if it's obviously BS.

[@b.vo.]

@tokyworld smelling like weed and even being high isn't a crime, and smelling like weed isn't enough reason to think you still have any in your possession either. There has to be quite a bit more going on than just that alone.

[@IRL_Lore]

Mike says we have the right to refuse consensual interactions with law enforcement... but do we really if they can just pretend to smell Marijuana and force and interaction anyway?

[@chawnkaw3637]

The gun laws prevent illegal possession of guns there is no way that was a illegally obtained gun, just no possible way…

[@postscript3150]

@@KP-Pro2A That's actually a good point.

[@DerakosZrux]

There's nothing you can do if that's a one-off behavior but cops do hang themselves by repeating stuff like that. If a cop ends up with twenty complaints about claiming to smell drugs or alcohol and there ends up not being any after they violated their rights without justification that's going to catch up to them eventually often with the help of local news. And not all cops do that so it's good you know how to make it clear whether the cop is detaining you or not and if they fabricate a reason to detain you you just gotta play the long game.

[@surj138]

​@@KP-Pro2A lol it's really cute that you believe every cop is a virtuous and honest defender of the law 👮‍♂️😇

[@benanders4412]

@@KP-Pro2A It's standard police procedure in America to lie about that stuff. Even i know that, and i'm European. Not that it's really any different here, they just use different excuses. It's basically world wide. Police doesn't take no for an answer even if you have the "right" to refuse.

[@sidwhelan6918]

This stop is the very definition of “unreasonable search and seizure “.

[@RideshareMauro]

Dude was minding his business and this officer escalated the situation for no reason.

[@lovrovalentic3056]

Just comply ,let him search you , and then nothing happens. Why people always have to make it hard, by running , making excuses, driving off....

[@ajaycorn1932]

@@lovrovalentic3056because we love in America. We have the right to deny consent to search and seizure. We have the right you refuse IDing with out reasonable and articulable suspicion.

[@lovrovalentic3056]

@@ajaycorn1932 I know , and thats a bad law, because it creates uneccesary tension between police and civilians. If you change it , criminals only raise suspicion to the cops, not all civilians who are bothered by the search. Every policeman should be able to ID randomly.(takes 2min and reduces illegal imigration) And searches take(10-20minutes) it sometimes happens twice or three time in a same day so its annoying , but thats rare.

[@kraigseder]

I’m a huge supporter of LEO, but this seems a very questionable stop. This guy wasn’t a threat to the public. If the police smelled weed, so what. Weed is everywhere so pick your real battle with real bad actors. On the other side, don’t resist, go through their process and take it to court instead of taking a bullet… and never pull a gun on trained people.

[@mikemike41066]

Devil’s advocate… cops are trained to know what’s up. Maybe we should be less surprised when they know what’s up? If he’s wrong, go to court and get paid. Easy peasy

[@hross1991]

"if that's a gun I promise it's not going to end well for you" "I know it's not" Chilling

[@cliffordduzz4342]

More like guilty and suicide by cop

[@xanman5595]

He also laughed before shooting the officer. No more weed smoking hair bleaching comical gang member dressing thug/clown with a non-registered firearm. I'm sure he was a law abiding citizen

[@xanman5595]

Also not to mention he's a multi-felon on probation. As harsh as it sounds the world's a better place without this dirtbag

[@ukee31]

Still that stop was absurd. I'm pro cop but that was wack. Running up on people cause it's a "drug area" they gotta do better

[@SeattleMarinerMan]

I find it ironic

[@camelfilters3224]

Several states have made it unlawful to stop or detain someone because an officers "smells Marijuana." Especially with Marijuana being legal for medical purposes, this is no longer enough evidence to stop and search someone. This goes for the home as well, just because officer "smell Marijuana" coming from your house. They can not enter and search using that excuse for a warrantless search. Once the suspect fired a shot, though, that completely changed the rules. He would have had better odds fighting it in court and winning than fighting in the street and ultimately losing it all.

[@TB4L505]

Very well said comment sir

[@deecee2174]

But did the kid have a gun or did the cop shoot himself??? I haven't seen a gun from the kid or seen how he could get the shot off.. that's what I'm wondering

[@einherjar3095]

The cop kicks the gun out of his hands at the end.

[@snowydays2998]

Is there a list of those states? asking for a friend

[@camelfilters3224]

@Dee Cee if you listen you can hear the first shot, right after that you can hear the officer unholster his weapon and fire twice. Slow it down abit it'll help you hear the officer unholster his weapon.

[@Jdog587]

I got a call for two suspicious males walking one night and it was the same scenario. They were walking home from a local gas station(had a bag with food from there). I asked dispatch what they were doing and dispatch stated “walking”. Moral of the story the resident called when they saw them walking because they supposedly have broken into a house/houses in the past. But weren’t doing anything. I didn’t even feel comfortable asking for ID. They were cool with me told me what they were doing which they didn’t have to do. It was a casual/good encounter and we all went on our way. They were extremely cool with me told me to be safe and I had no PC to really even do anything. Also got one for a guy shopping once lol.

[@MR_KILL777]

Probable cause is being in a known drug area late at night and not stopping to talk to an officer when he asked you a simple question. Good friend is a sheriff in Washington County here in Oregon and he just said if you want to detain somebody to ask them what they're doing in a known problem area, you have every right to as an officer on patrol. He said that's why they Patrol. When that person fails to comply with a basic identification request by being in a high crime area or known drug activity area you have every right as an officer on patrol in that area to stop said person based on the suspicion of drug activity. If that person identifies themselves and is shown to not be partaking in the problematic illegal activity especially late at night during peak times, then they are free to go. But the moment they pull away from an officer or start running and acting suspicious all it does is escalate the situation and then turn into a mess like this. This was all on the perp and the reason was cuz he had a friggin gun tucked in his waistband that I highly doubt was legal. So is my friend incorrect?

[@Jdog587]

@@MR_KILL777 there is caselaw regarding that, but it’s kind of one of those things where you really gotta make sure…. Well let me ask you this. How do you know it’s a high drug crime area? And what classifies as a high drug crime area? Is there one drug dealer that lives nearby or is there 10 and how far do those drug dealers live? How spaced out apart are the drug dealers or are they all living within a quarter mile radius? There’s no clear-cut answer…. I would never fuck with somebody specifically just for that. Also, did you witness the person just leave a drug house and their pockets are bulging, or are they simply just walking down the street. It really depends on all the little facts and circumstances. One of the reasons is because I didn’t wanna end up like this Officer and if I ever had to shoot somebody, I really wanted to make sure I can justify it. These are all also questions you’re going to get asked in court probably.

[@MR_KILL777]

@@Jdog587 High drug area means they actually have drug task force in that area and are told to be on the lookout for people that match the criteria, nice cars that don't belong in that area, people walking late at night with hoodies on when its 100 degrees out, you know stuff like that if youre a officer. Come on. They don't just randomly assign a drug task force to an area without statistical information. Give me a break. That's how they know it because most of their drug busts go down in that area, or they trace the dealers back to that as their Source area and where they see most of the movement of Narcotics spreading outward. That's just one of many examples of high-crime areas or prostitution riddled areas where they set up stings on Johns. This is kind of Common Sense amongst from law enforcement I've gleaned off of my friends over the years...MP's included. Secondly, if you don't have anything to hide you're not going to continue to walk away from an officer when they're asking you questions and start escalating the situation by acting sketchy and suspicious. Again I think that's common sense from any sort of outside Observer to law enforcement or ex-military like myself that is in line with nothing to hide.

[@Jdog587]

@@MR_KILL777 like I said that is an actual thing but you gotta be careful trending on that. Most of ours were from getting pc on cars leaving drug houses and establishing enough PC for a warrant linked to those traffic stops and those houses. If somebody’s not doing anything and they’re in a high crime area. They still have the freedom to travel. And it’s not illegal to run or be scared of the police…if I end up having to shoot somebody due to a foot pursuit…all I’m saying is I’d rather have established a decent amount of PC/reasonable suspicion so when I’m on the hot seat I can say I without a doubt I had the right to attempt to detain them instead of a simple…we’ll he ran …if it’s at night in a high crime area he may have thought I was an op or potentially a drive by shooting was about to happen if all he saw was my slow moving head lights approaching him…see how many what ifs can come up in the defense of the “suspect” Like I said I personally want a little more. Plus it makes a stronger case the more you have. It can be risky just going based on that.

[@Playa001]

Two suspicious males walking what the fuck lmaooooooo stop responding to those

[@T.E.P..]

Just want to say again how much I enjoy the new format of when you and Mike discuss vids you put the window boxes in the vids of the face speaking. It's super cool you all at ASP experiment with the format. Hope all of ya have a perfect weekend

[@Wilders53]

Horrible stop with a Horrible outcome. Even if you shouldn't be stopped by the police Never fight them there! Fight them in court! 👍

[@dirtfarmer7070]

You will lose in court also

[@scubamik3792]

court is not on your side

[@tonebone253]

Cops have qualified immunity so taking it to court doesn't do anything besides waste your time and money.

[@5rc]

I did and everything worked in my favor. Gave up, was released on site, settled things in court.

[@christiane5984]

The police own the courts.

[@MrRandallDish]

Thanks for keeping law enforcement honest with your unbiased views.

[@Justacoustic79]

The "I smell marihuana" bullshit excuse has become a total hit these days in pretty much every country in the world.

[@davidfleishman2275]

The other one is "we got a call".

[@Mr47the]

​@@davidfleishman2275 At least with the "we got a call" you can make them provide evidence they actually did get a call ( way later in court).

[@dercorta-noyokamiboyteenpr2166]

the world? i was in alot of countries, only in the usa they said it

[@stevenbingham3061]

You can thank the conservative judges who side with cops and want to give them every excuse to "do their job" (aka violate your rights). Our rights in this country are slowly being eroded!!

[@dercorta-noyokamiboyteenpr2166]

@@stillcantbesilencedevennow funny, i am from germany lived my most life there, never heard it before

[@StumpyFroggy]

Amazing how a cop can come up to you and say they smell weed and then start putting their hands on you.

[@h1c2e35]

he got hands on him WHEN HE RAN duaaaa

[@goodcitizen4873]

The officer smelled the cleaned and oiled 9 mm s n w

[@h1c2e35]

@@jg7038 you can smell it 86ft away and the cop was less than 15 ft. what would happen if that kid was a 3 time criminal that killed his family and was hiding?

[@Jedi_Jed]

They’re changing this law in some states. It’s no longer probable cause.

[@h1c2e35]

@@UndiscoveredSith ok then we can just let criminals walk the streets at night and get away with killing then. see how that works out for you.

[@OfficialSouthsidemedia]

29 year old Black male and I love you guy non bias approaches with situations like this

[@timpyle2125]

Can't even walk down the street without being accosted

[@tommyboy518]

the officer was bored.

[@rossburg84]

Thank you for being true to your word. You arent pro or anti cop. AND not political or racial. I love the content, and will continue to watch

[@damienwilloughby]

@@pegg00 🤣🤣

[@AvadaVendetta]

Relax Romeo

[@damienwilloughby]

@@AvadaVendetta 🤣

[@Full_throttle_YamR6]

@@pegg00 are you jealous? 😂 you can be the side chick if u want 😂

[@beyondplusultra7837]

@@Full_throttle_YamR6lol he’s very jelly

[@ezrider1967]

This guy never should have been stopped! He was just walking down the road and nothing wrong was observed!

[@madworld3572]

the guy try to kill the cop, u think that he was inoccent? lol

[@tanucci733]

​@@madworld3572 The guy was just walking down the road. There was no reason for contact.

[@parker2121]

@madworld3572 yeah, and he got what he deserved for that - but how would the cop have known that was going to happen before it happened? The stop was unjust. Whatever happened AFTER the stop doesn't have any bearing on that because the police do not have the ability to see into the future. A crime that hasn't been committed yet is not a crime. He was stopped for nothing. "His record-" The cop hadn't even identified him yet. He knew nothing about his record. From the officer's perspective, this is some random guy walking down the street with a grocery bag. That's all the information he had when he initiated the contact. Being outside, even in a "high narcotics area" or whatever the fuck, is not legal justification to shake somebody down. "The guy was a piece of shit" isn't either, considering that information was not available to the officer until after the fact. Yeah, he seems like he was a piece of shit indeed, but we're more or less arguing over the idea of whether or not you should be arrested over future crimes. Straight fucking goofy

[@fingolfin9086]

@@parker2121 He still smelled weed though. Or at least, we can't prove he didn't. So until AR changes their laws on marijuana, it's a legally justified detention.

[@bobisonline]

You voted for Byden right?

[@ReadTheShrill]

5:27 "We're either bootlicking cop-lovers, or we're anti-government..." Hey, me too! I watch auditor channels as well as police activity channels, and call them how I see'em, so I get called both of these too. It seems that there are many simplistic non-thinkers out there.

[@JackParsons2]

Nuance and individual situations are just too much to comprehend for the average commentator these days, it's unfortunate that people seem to be backed into looking at things from a single point of view where they can't see the forest for the trees. Life is messy and complicated and rarely is any situation completely cut and dry.

[@edmak2228]

I love how honest you guys are about these videos. I believe the cop shouldn't have stopped this kid but the kid absolutely should not have pulled a gun and shot this cop. He ended up losing his life by making the wrong decision

[@redrice492]

Agreed The time to Argue is in court

[@Nostolgiaholla]

where do you see the guy shoot the cop? I heard two shots and both came from the cop...I hate everything about this, everyone made a mistake here.

[@uncommonsense_76]

- An ILLEGAL arrest is an assault and battery... the person so attempting to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending themselves as he would in repealing any other assault and battery ... - State V Robinson 145 ME. 77,72 Atl.260... - Rodriguez V Ray Donovan DOL. statutes codes policies regulations, Only apply to corporations and not to people.

[@scout528]

@@Nostolgiaholla first shot can be heard 5-6 seconds before the cop fired

[@sethnaugle984]

​@@Nostolgiaholla you can hear a shot go off at 2:09. Wish the kid didn't do that.

[@michaelwray9178]

John & Mike, I am a supporter of the women and men in blue. Anyone who dons the shield on a daily basis to put their life on the line for others is worthy of my respect. It isn’t cart Blanche, clearly we have all seen scenarios where the officer was not worthy of the badge. I have not found a more reasonable break down of these incidents you guys cover anywhere on the web. To those who say you’re pro cop or anti cop, please don’t listen to them. Your evidence based breakdown of these very serious situations are just that. Your opinions are based 💯 on the evidence before you (video, news accounts and witnesses when available). Keep up the great work gentlemen, I appreciate all the fact based analysis. I hope you have the opportunity to train LEOs, your approach is greatly appreciated.

[@JefferyT1991]

Officer was in the wrong but that kid made a bad situation into a tragedy

[@mostlypeacefulguntraining]

@@DTreatz yo fuck that kids rights, because i guarantee he wasnt carrying a gun to prevent crimes

[@josh8oh8]

@@DTreatz At the end of the day, this man lost his life because of his actions. Cop was definitely in the wrong to stop him, but I can’t think for a second how running away and shooting a cop is going to make anything better. If he killed the cop, he’d spend the rest of his life in jail, or he’d end up getting shot and killed like what we saw in the video. Both of those options are a lose lose. If he chose to just talk with the officer he would still be alive today.

[@AreyemMeyera]

@@DTreatzhaving rights and being stupid are two completely different things. You should not have them both. This guy sadly had them at the same time. Rights and stupidity.

[@keinlieb3818]

​@@josh8oh8 still don't think cop was in the wrong to stop him. Cops are allowed to try and ask questions, but you don't have to answer, but running and then shooting the cop is definitely not the answer. I've been stopped and asked questions before and I didn't run away or pull a gun and I lived to see another day.

[@darrinlambert88]

Time to fight would be court

[@Dr.PeterSpielberg]

Ive seen a lot of videos but this one caught me off gaurd.

[@Dr.PeterSpielberg]

@@phatgringo2.0 eh, if it doesn't get removed then it wasn't too far

[@Dr.PeterSpielberg]

@D B I'm not even gonna pay attention to the verbal warning part, but you must've missed the part where he pulled that gun on the officer and a round went in the officers leg, questionable officer for escalating, but doesn't remove the fact that the kid was not in danger to the extent of death, but yet he chose to use fatal force against an officer, but soon realized then unrealized, he was lacking of both luck and skill. Easily preventable in every aspect on both parts.

[@josh8oh8]

@@Dr.PeterSpielberg Thank you. You are the first person I’ve seen in the comment section have a balanced, rational outlook on this situation.

[@Dr.PeterSpielberg]

@@josh8oh8 the middle man has the best view of the show

[@spacetitan2198]

I've seen every video on this channel and police activity channel. This one is memorable. It went down so fast!

[@Crozz42o]

You guys EDUCATE. You’re not pro anything other than pro-protection. People are stupid and just keep doing what you guys are doing. Great and educational content ❤️

[@REVO402]

I love this comment!

[@parker2121]

"I smell weed" is how a cop says they've arbitrarily decided to suspend your civil rights and they're going to get criminally cleared no matter what they do to you.

[@artificialintelligence143]

Outside and in middle of winter. Ya right.

[@HeavyMetalOne64]

@@artificialintelligence143you’re wrong.

[@HeavyMetalOne64]

Cops should lose their qualified immunity when a stop like this happens....it’s unlawful

[@Dan-cm9ow]

Its a perfect example of why people hate cops. The second they were given a vague and unverifiable test to bypass the 4th amendment they ran with it and are yet to back down. Even "good" cops do it since justify it by a desire to protect others.

[@mastaofthemetavrse976]

THANK FK IM IN U.K

[@Sam-760]

That laugh before he shot at the officer was sinister af

[@blakegollmer2048]

I think that was him crying knowing he was about to die. It doesn't matter any more. That situation should never have happened.

[@kuessebrama]

@@blakegollmer2048 no it should've never happend, but it could have ended well if he had not choosen to die or try to kill someone because of such a minor incident... How can anyone think this is better then getting maybe a small sentense..

[@watchnbamazedtm6533]

i never heard the suspect shot??? i heard the laugh but never a shot jus the 2 from the cop,, am i missing something?

[@HarsanRonyo]

Dude was black, carrying a gun, and the cop used the "smells Marijuana" argument to initiate the detention. He knew the outcome the instant the cop decided to make the stop. For better or for worse, he decided to die fighting.

[@HarsanRonyo]

@@TheStranger513 it's hard to stop a man from fulfilling that which he's prophesized for himself. There is an old saying, when you see trouble coming down the road, do not go out to meet it. It'll probably turn off before it gets to you. This man went out to meet it.

[@MC-ht3vr]

I do appreciate the non bias approach that you guys are taking in these videos

[@hourbee5535]

Another reason why there needs to be two officers patrolling together AT ALL TIMES.

[@stevenbingham3061]

Why so their partner can help with the cover-up?

[@cuzr702]

@@stevenbingham3061Ya, now it’s your word against two buddy cops.

[@sefo6264]

He was just walking home ...the boy only carrying the gun for protection but the officer did not have a reason to stop him at all..

[@95TurboSol]

@@stevenbingham3061 Well at least you will get two camera angles of the attempted cover up lol

[@isaacstetson5720]

Isn’t weed legal in most states dude just died over it lmao gotta love the blue

[@Zephon302]

I appreciate what yall do with the calling balls and strikes.

[@americanmade-1]

I love how they take a realistic, unbiased approach to these situations. Very refreshing these days. Another reason i love this channel.

[@scottrobinson1564]

Thanks for saying how it is John! "I don't love the stop" is something an ex cop would say. The stop was complete bullshit!

[@tl-7745]

Which doesn't make it legal to shoot somebody. And I can assure you 100% no normal person would have done what he did if he hadn't done anything illegal. Nice story though.

[@rayromano6249]

If you got nothing to hide then you have no problem with the stop. Too much entitled ppl with no respect to officers jobs 👍

[@M_Ryze]

​@@rayromano6249Here in the USA, it's a violation of our rights to get stopped for no reason, and it's our right to use reasonable force to defend ourselves. Keep licking boots though dirt mouth.

[@kelkel8908]

​@@rayromano6249 bootlickers will always say "surrender your constitutional rights since you got nothing to hide" but claim to love America. Since you're so quick to suggest someone else surrender their rights how about you surrender your 2nd amendment right... Didn't think so.

[@getoutthematrix1033]

@@rayromano6249 That makes no sense whatsoever. Having nothing to hide doesnt mean cops should be able to harass people just because they feel like. People who think like you are the reason I left that police state called America.

[@williamrunner6718]

You guys are reasonable and rational in your views. You are right where you need to be!

[@kfrerix9777]

Imagine if every time you smell weed, you could report the nearest pedestrian to the cops. Smelling weed outdoors is no pretext for ANYthing.

[@LarfIeeze]

🤣”911 what’s your emergency” “I smell WEED OUTSIDE!!!”

[@jimhavoc]

5:46 A detention requires reasonable suspicion that a crime is occurring, has occurred, or is about to occur. Probable cause is required for an arrest. It's debatable whether the officer established reasonable suspicion to make a detention ("This is a high narcotics area") but I don't think so.

[@mbochum83]

Correct and correct. And there's tons of case law backed by the Supreme Court that just being in an area where crime has previously occurred is not, by itself, enough for RAS. Good shoot, but the family is going to get paid.

[@qwrft2496]

​@@mbochum83 paid with our tax dollars no less. Shit like this needs to start coming out of officers 401ks or the police unions funds. I'd wager everything I own if that happened police all over the country would be in mandatory training and numerous assessments overnight.

[@JamesWitte]

@@qwrft2496 defs police union funds to create that effect

[@ChalkyDisc]

So why not fight the cop in court instead of the street?

[@makingkidsgreatagain3043]

I think the fact that you have to allow the cops to violate your rights and stand by, then later let a judge decide if it was unjust, is obvious proof that we are slaves.

[@tanucci733]

Simple Truth!

[@danielgoodman3578]

If legitimate justice can be obtained then that disproves your point. And you may well have the right to a jury. I think the point is, unless the cop is straight up literally trying to murder you and you're defending yourself, it's a bad idea to resist arrest because it can end up going very poorly for you physically and legally. But you can win in court. And if you were provably compliant at the side of the road or what not, you're going to look far better to anyone weighing evidence. You can also possibly draw media attention to gain compliance to your side (I'm thinking of a certain civil asset forfeiture case for that sort of context).

[@dreadnoughtus2598]

Yeah, it's completely obvious. 😂😂

[@jobbins008]

Hyperbole much? We don't live in a communist nation. Only a criminal would shoot a police officer for a non-life threatening detainment. I don't want to protect criminals rights because they'll take mine away in the future.

[@Jaime7188]

Good ole American justice system. Guilty untily proven innocent.

[@ianlafleur8989]

Love what you do knowledge and perspective are a powerful tool.

[@ActiveSelfProtection]

Glad you appreciate the lessons, Ian!

[@princejamin8748]

Did he just try talking to someone he just shot in the head?😢 cmon

[@viperson9818]

I think the guy was still alive, you could hear later some groaning and it didn't sound like it was from the officer.

[@fajile5109]

@@viperson9818 you can make a lot of noise after dying

[@VintageTeak]

It's just acting for the body cam footage review.

[@Hackanhacker]

NO HE SHOT SOMEONE HE JUST TALK TO !!! Thats different

[@ObeseCaligula]

He was talking to neighbor. Weirdos.

[@rdmercer2451]

Good analysis, though imho, this was a 💯% illegal detention and resulted in the murder of this kid by another psychopath with a badge and a fragile ego. This kids’ attempt to defend himself from an aggressive attacker who forced the encounter on him with a gun was foolhardy but didn’t merit the death penalty. I hope the family sue the pants off this cop, the department, and the city. Reckless cops like this have no place in a profession where they are entrusted to protect people’s lives not snuff them out when their egos are hurt when a citizen rebuffs their illegal demands.

[@scottcoley1906]

Thanks for being unbiased and middle of the road on this one @ActiveSelfProtection

[@561inurface]

what an intro made me spit my coffee

[@realtj2226]

No matter what at the end of the day....this guy is dead...instead of compliance and fighting the charges in court this young stupid generation would rather hold court on the streets with a highly trained cop with a simple word NO!....

[@sheldondinkleberg6525]

And due to the stupid generations before us, you let corruption run deep in law enforcement.

[@bobisonline]

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!

[@realtj2226]

@@sheldondinkleberg6525 you missed it dummy!....At the end of the day you have to hold yourself accountable that generation talk is old and outdated! Life is uncertain death is for sure....

[@MasterTaters]

I sincerely doubt this cop was highly trained because if he was this stop would've never happened.

[@zacpdx]

Don’t think you’re bootlickers or anti cop. You give your opinion based on what the video says. As a fallible human, you can’t expect for everyone to agree but the information you provide is valuable. Cheers Hodor 😂

[@edmoney4244]

There wasn't a need for that, completely avoidable loss of life. I bet there is someone out there that misses this dumb kid. RIP

[@bobisonline]

Yes, had the little punk ass simply complied!!!!!!!

[@Sincerit]

Poor kid couldn’t get his shot right so he can spend life in prison for killing a cop? 🙄 he make his choices!

[@smellssmelly]

this is suppose to be serious and you got me laughing so hard from that "make's my ass itch"

[@jeffporter100]

Let’s be careful not to laugh at a potentially serious symptom. This symptom could be a sign of something more serious and he needs to seek the attention of a medical professional to rule out a potentially serious condition. 😂

[@anthonyroa7603]

Thanks for exiting.

[@FrankCastle694]

I don’t care how unlawful the stop is listen and sue later

[@JayBe443]

So many Keyboard Warriors here dont understand this.

[@Mr47the]

Yeah, unfortunately cops can do whatever they want during the moment. You can't argue your case to stop an arrest, you'll only be physically assaulted or killed. All you can do is get badge numbers, file complaints, and sue later on. If the cop goes beyond what they can legally do then whatever they charge you with will be drop (more or less).

[@ManetInAEternum]

Yeah because people who work can afford that kind of CONSTANT time off work for you case or complaints. Some people have had enough of being treated like cattle and having their rights violated. Man's just used his 2A to fight tyranny. I would rather die fighting for what this country is supposed to stand for than letting crooks and cops run amok. Hope all great officers of the law make it home at night, but those that cross that line, get what's coming

[@jonescrusher1]

How straightforward do you think suing the police is?

[@master-dukecuthbert5061]

Thank God. Someone with a brain

[@jenniferg.3857]

I don't understand how people can view you guys, and this channel, as leaning towards one side or the other. This channel is the most neutral setting you can find. Keep up the great work guys 😎👍

[@rerelux6311]

I totally agree! I love watching their breakdowns

[@AvadaVendetta]

You are completely wrong 😂

[@rerelux6311]

@@AvadaVendetta Sounds like we have a cop hater here now. I bet all your comments are like this.

[@AvadaVendetta]

@@rerelux6311 youre wrong as well. 😕 Birds of a feather eh?

[@rerelux6311]

@@AvadaVendetta You’re definitely just a troll. Good luck with that. And smart people tend to hang around smart people so birds of a feather sounds good to me. Lol. Byyyyyyyye

[@samfisher7293]

OMG i hope that guy is ok😮

[@Dwightfairfield.]

Don't worry he's ok He's just dead

[@albertorodriguez-co8nu]

Thank you guys for being fully honest in your reviews, sometimes I agree other times I don’t, I agree with your initial response in regards to the stop, but I strongly disagree the shooting was permitted in any kind

[@albertorodriguez-co8nu]

R.I.P young man, your life mattered, you will get justice

[@albertorodriguez-co8nu]

@@Dogpool he should have lost his life is my position. He initiated an unlawful traffic stop , which put him in the position of possibly losing his life, better a crooked cop than a civilian. An unpopular opinion I know but nevertheless it’s what I believe

[@davisgomez6869]

@@albertorodriguez-co8nu do you really believe this cop is crooked and was out for murder? Considering the killed one didn’t comply with authority, ran, and in fact shot him first? Surely you’re letting your emotions and bias get a hold of you

[@SeanGTM]

​@@albertorodriguez-co8nu Best pump the brakes there, kiddo. Any proof he was a "crooked cop"?

[@albertorodriguez-co8nu]

@@SeanGTM initiating an unlawful traffic stop… pretty obvious

[@a2ztacticalacademy]

Great lessons

[@lizardking2407]

Thank you for advocating for us responsible 2A stoners, John! I dont drink, but occasionally get blazed, but i never carry when i do.

[@chrismicklich7831]

Bad stop. Bad outcome. "Anyone who runs is a VC. Anyone who stands still is a well-disciplined VC."- Full Metal Jacket

[@darkabyssal8488]

VC????

[@StoopidSmith323]

​@@theadventuresofkiwi5472no its Viet Cong

[@ELEVOPR]

So they can co conspire and lie and back eachother up in the report? LOL Two liars are better than one

[@ripsaa2693]

Me bukoo V.C...Barnes Barnes you ain't no Judge and Jury you see p.o.s

[@LowBudgetYoutuber]

Dude is an American. Guy was Murdered. Extremely racist comment.

[@harrylake9388]

ASP fan for life.

[@lastbitofyeast3643]

The shooting should have never happened because the officer illegally tackled that man …unnecessary escalation…this cop should not be a cop .

[@GastonsGuitarCovers]

That blurring didn't blur much.

[@stephennutter6244]

Remember when we had rights, like the fourth amendment in the constitution??... yeah, me neither

[@anthonyloconte7835]

I am not familiar with high crime or drug interdiction SOP to know if this was a good stop or not.

[@uncreativename9936]

Don't worry about it, have a strong opinion about it anyways!

[@melissajohnson5966]

Are you familiar then with the 4th article of the Bill Of Rights? The war on drugs is a fraud.- Craig Johnson

[@shadeyreign]

It means harass people in poor and minority areas.

[@4corander]

why did the suspect say 'ow' after the first shot? Did he accidently hit himself too?

[@Kevin_Ho70]

You comply… you don’t Die!

[@patrickturner7764]

I appreciate the just calling balls and strikes. Gotta agree with the take on this one.

[@ActiveSelfProtection]

Glad you appreciate what we do, Patrick!

[@Chibbygaming]

Mike.. It's okay. You can smile every now and then lol.

[@crazyoldman4261]

Now that you say it i don’t think I’ve ever seen him smile 😮

[@kelliya9818]

his ol man was a bubble head - he's incapable of smiling much

[@Liberty-rn4wy]

Running from cops is always a bad idea. Don't fight cops, unless in a court and with a lawyer at your side.

[@bobisonline]

Well stated!

[@getoutthematrix1033]

So if a cop is trying to r@pe you you shouldnt try to fight them off?

[@Liberty-rn4wy]

@@getoutthematrix1033 Would that work against a rapist with a gun?

[@joelgonzales8342]

​@getoutthematrix1033 Cops aren't out raping people so I don't think you have to worry about that you freakin weirdo....

[@getoutthematrix1033]

@@Liberty-rn4wy Citizens have guns too. My point is that "never run from or fight a cop" is nonsense. There are literally cops being arrested for r@pe and mvrder and the stories are on KZbin.

[@michaellewis1703]

this is why I love you guys. ALways impartial

[@HAMMERHEAD-g3h]

I'm a police officer and I say legalize all marijuana. It's too petty of a crime to be getting yourself into dangerous incidents over. I used to work for an agency that would not allow us to pursue unless there was already a felony in progress. Having been in many pursuits, I agree with that. Been doing the job since the early 2000s and it has changed a lot. Criminals get away with more nowadays because of the laxed court system and it's just not worth putting everybody in danger for someone to spend 6 nonths in prison and be released back into the public.

[@pafoneto1275]

"...it's too petty of a crime" and then every crime would be legal. Is the Pandora box.

[@BelaskoTheNinja]

​@@pafoneto1275That's just ridiculous. There's a substantial grey area between possessing weed and other more serious crimes. Marijuana can be legal just like alcohol and cigarettes. My state legalized marijuana and society didn't fall apart.

[@bleachman56]

police officers should be held to a higher standard. if a cop breaks the law they should receive a death sentence. this should include unlawful stops.

[@willpeterson569]

@@bleachman56 Death sentence for an unlawful stop? Do your parents know you're online saying these things?

[@skycloud4802]

The negative affects of a crime simply don't go away after legalising it.

[@dumbernews]

Justified. Took a dangerous person off the street

[@lxqn]

Appreciate the evenhandedness.

[@BreadGod]

Idk I kinda feel like he just walked up to this random guy and tackled him and executed him.

[@TheDigitalThreat]

probably because that's exactly what happened.

[@coltonkay9000]

@@TheDigitalThreat Not even close

[@coltonkay9000]

@Omegahurtz So, in your mind, could the kid have shot the officer in self-defense? It being an execution and all

[@coltonkay9000]

@Omegahurtz I am not brushing anything off or avoiding a conversation. I agree that police need to follow the laws that are on the book for their jurisdiction. I don't want police to break that law. (Controversial opinion) - sarcasm I am not 100% sure this cop did anything illegal. The kid in the video probably didn't know any different, and the cop probably thought he was enforcing the law. You yourself don't know either. You are saying something that if people try and follow in their own lives, will get them killed, put in prison, or have their lives destroyed if they manage to stay out of prison. See the video for a good example. This is where the 'fight them in court not in the street' comes from. Even the Italian mob knew this Why do liberals promote this ridiculous idea?

[@coltonkay9000]

@Omegahurtz and just to add on cops are very different than private citizens. They are tasked by the authority of the state to enforce the law. People will make mistakes. This does not grant cops the privilege to act as they will but is something to keep in mind

[@macbruno357]

Guy knew he was going down for the gun, and he got desperate.

[@bobisonline]

Desperate?! How about fighting "deadly force" with "deadly force"?

[@swerveo7313]

@@bobisonlinegetting detained by police isn’t deadly force lol

[@Robert-ws3mk]

New sub today, love how you guys break things down

[@seanbrabston4832]

An itchy ass is a serious problem! Watch out. You'll catch swampass.

[@blazeparabellum7325]

If not careful, it will lead to lung-puckerooie-of-the-dip-dong. Very serious. Lol.

[@seanbrabston4832]

@@blazeparabellum7325 🤣🤣

[@lillsizzle]

If you're not out wrong doing, then there is no reason to resist. Best to just comply! Don't feel bad for this guy

[@AD-xn7pt]

5:25 i would say you guys are pretty objective and fair, being able to point out mistakes when LEO are involved. Which us ine thing i like about this channel compared to others

[@davemay6014]

As long as we continue to infringe on rights, we will continue to have these outcomes.

[@josemartinezz9152]

What you saying the criminal was carrying legally

[@effthegop]

Logic tells me that if the detention was illegal, the initial shooting would have been self defense. If an armed civilian chased and tackled you, you'd legally shoot him. Cops might have more leeway but they need to follow strict rules.

[@dankdungeon5104]

I would argue running from a police offcier is probable cause for detainment

[@papimaximus95]

"Logic tells me that if the detention was illegal, the initial shooting would have been self defense." Not true in Arkansas: “Whether the arrest is lawful or unlawful, a person may not use physical force to resist an arrest by a person who is known or reasonably appears to be a: (1) Law enforcement officer; or (2) Private citizen directed by a law enforcement officer to assist in effecting an arrest. ” Ark. Code § 5-2-612

[@joseenricovillacorte7670]

You don't pull it on a uniformed officer 🤣 our logic tells that you're dumb.

[@killacarp7]

You cannot legally defend against physical force with deadly force. If someone tackles a private citizen you can't legally pull a gun and shoot them. You have to be at a risk of death or great bodily harm, which this individual was not.

[@effthegop]

@@dankdungeon5104 You could be right. Can you cite a statute?

[@kennethbaze6627]

I agree with you two.

[@soulwave268]

Probably good the officer isn't criminaly charged BUT, this guy shouldn't be a officer anymore and the family deserves a payout

[@EdwardFlanagin]

They deserve a payout for theyre son shooting a officer ?

[@neroultimate1]

Can someone point out the shot that hit his leg? I tried listening for it & can’t find it.

[@goingtothestore3626]

2:09 officers shots are 2:15 and 2:16

[@alexmiller6848]

its right after he says ifthats a gun it isnt going to end well for you, the kid laughs, shoots the cop in the leg you hear the cop yell OUCH loudly, cop then executes kid

[@jeffreyholdeman3042]

@@alexmiller6848 you were accurate up until ‘cop executes kid’ 🙄

[@neroultimate1]

@@goingtothestore3626 thank you Daniel

[@erics.1275]

I agree with John and Mike

[@Zdudeful]

You could argue that the initial shot by the deceased was in self defense if the detention by the police officer was unjustified. If it were considered unjustified, at that point the officer chased a retreating citizen and tackled them to ground while armed, putting the deceased in reasonable fear of their life. If he weren't a cop, he would likely be guilty of at least manslaughter.

[@marcscott49er]

Thank you. 🙏

[@zachf748]

Did the guy have drugs or warrants? Why’d the guy run and fight?

[@cyberianwolf790]

How about scared from the crazy ass cop. He clearly was right.

[@scottwood1143]

Ran and fought the law, and found out.

[@MorarLa]

I'm also curious to know if they ever found any weed that's never addressed

[@skycloud4802]

Probably was up to no good, that was clear.

[@josemartinezz9152]

I found my new favorite channel

[@Wrexxxx]

Never assume what a man with a gun will do…cops included. Legal or not, we’re all human and may pull that trigger.

[@AnthonyGonzalez-zy5zm]

@@CollinY818 so why did he run?

[@Wrexxxx]

@@CollinY818 not sure how bootlicking applies to my comment but whatever. He’s dead because he reached for a weapon….whether the cop had legal right to do so or not.

[@Wrexxxx]

@@CollinY818 not making excuses for the officer. My post is pretty clear. You only win against a cop after, not during an arrest, as this guy found out. He’s dead because he either wanted to die, or thought he’d get one up on a man with a gun. Never put yourself in that situation. Who’s at fault is irrelevant to you when you’re dead.

[@Nagle1234]

I get the feeling the cop grabbed the kids gun and angled it towards the kids leg and fired the shot himself.

[@Wrexxxx]

@@Nagle1234 I don’t actually see what took place. What I can say are the timing of the shots sound pretty fishy.

[@baroyahaquwahba9382]

Well u better scratch it

[@jefffrei4671]

🤣 😂

[@allengainzmma]

The fact this made me laugh so hard proves I’m not as mature as I thought I was 😂

[@Ruby_Sterling]

This style of policing is why people are protesting.

[@petermonck5448]

Poor policing.

[@abrahamlincoln289]

"An honest man has nothing to fear." I have been profiled before but I cooperated and guess what...I am alive today and got to go home to my family! Shocking huh!!!

[@jacobfernandez6055]

a free man has nothing to prove

[@tonebone253]

I love how the burden of proof is on some kid walking down the street with a grocery bag in his hand and the cop gets to stop him why? Because he's a narcotics officer and patrols the area? It's a classic case of fishing and unfortunately it cost this person their life. Shouldn't have ever been stopped in the first place.

[@staffakartherma3303]

Philando Castille cooperated and a cop killed him. I'm not saying that he would have been better off by not cooperating, but that quote is BS in the real world.

[@bobisonline]

Preciisely! I grew up in Boca Raton FL in the late 60's and was once walking home from my girlfriends house at which I had been in her dark bedroom for a while. I'm walking, minding my business, cop pulls up to me, says my pupils were dilated, grills me, says he suspects drugs. COuld not have been more wrong as at that stage, about 17 years old, I had never even seen any drugs and had no desire whatsoever. I have always carried myself older than my age and finally reasoned with him the he was WRONG! He eventually gave in, and I continued to walk home. Now, this has stuck with me all my life and my next birthday will be my 70th. Do I hate cops? No, I hate douchebags that carry a heavy badge! But had he attempted to detain me, would I have resisted, DUH... no!

[@TsLeng]

You don't stop an honest man in the first place. How's that for a change?

[@BossLevelPro]

When the country can observe and discuss these situations like Mike and John, well be in a better place.

[@philliprunge]

I am not against cops at all, but this joker needs to have Federal civil rights charges brought against him.

[@bretttheillustrator]

​@@EyeForKnowledge. not all cops are the same

[@philliprunge]

@@EyeForKnowledge. No it's not.

[@KainCarlton]

Citizens are innocent until proven guilty, we should live in a world where an unlawful detainment such as this is met with self defense. Yet we live in a world where cops like this can act as the judge jurry and executioner, and the citizen is assed to be guilty. If its even possible that he could've had a medicinal card, then to ask would've been a HIPPA violation, plus no way to prove it wasn't coming from one of the houses nearby.

[@jayman94fly]

I could make a case that was self defense.

[@Items_I_Find_Interesting]

That’s cuz they don’t work for us, they are there to protect the ruling elites. I’ve had very expensive things stolen and the cops don’t bother to even look.

[@macioluko9484]

Nothing about this individual screamed: violent. He had non threatening body language. He was walking away. He was on public land. He was not damaging any property. He was not verbally abusive. He WAS EVENTUALLY running away from a person that WAS meaning harm to him. Jesus! This kind of “stop” is more common in N Korea.

[@SecwetGwiwer]

Looked a lot like an execution to me.

[@albertgreen8347]

Thank goodness a criminal willing to shoot a cop over nothing was executed. Do you want to live next door to someone like this?

[@N076aHj87]

He acted sketchy because he was a multiple time convicted felon carrying a loaded stolen gun. Also on probation, which means the officer was 100% going to search him.

[@johnathanbeicher536]

What is sketchy is that you can be walking down the street and be accosted by the cops. There was no need for that stop at all.

[@pafoneto1275]

​@@johnathanbeicher536 Regardless, always do what the cop tells you, if you are really innocent, the worst can happen is that you will lose a day doing papers on the commissary, if you resist, the worst can happen is...

[@johnhutsler8122]

You can't just stop a random person who hasn't committed a crime just because they're walking in a drug area. This was homicide, 100%

[@pafoneto1275]

@@johnhutsler8122 The officer actually can do that if they suspect you.

[@N076aHj87]

@@johnhutsler8122 sure you can. If you have a suspicion they are involved in a crime.

[@SomeGuy-hf4nl]

Love the itchy ASS comment! 😂. You guys are spot on! Love your work! He should have waited for backup….

[@slamfire6005]

As a officer… I could smell the weed through my phone.

[@TheStapleGunKid]

I'm a police officer and I have never used marijuana smell as a reason to take action against someone, since it can't be scientifically proven. I can't go on a witness stand and testify with 100% certainty that whatever I was smelling is marijuana, even if I am 99.9% sure it is. Especially in case like this where some guy is just walking around, I wouldn't even consider stopping him.

[@zerox1893]

I agree except when using it as probable cause to search a vehicle that you have stopped for another reason.

[@DuvalRypr]

I don’t believe you 🙂

[@my_goodman7162]

Good for you, get all of your buddies in blue on the same page and maybe people won't hate them so much.

[@stevennihipali3607]

If the department is doing drug introduction and routine stops... if the guy doesn't stop, that's refusing... no civil matter should be held. The cop was actually legally justified in the stop by doing his job

[@wize1322]

That was an unlawful detainment and that cop had no right to put hands on that kid

[@joelgonzales8342]

The dude only got shot after he shot the cop. Were you not paying attention?

[@Hank..]

@@joelgonzales8342 If I attack you without justification and you shoot me because I'm attacking you, I do not have the right to shoot you in self-defense.

[@aarongentile7232]

My favorite former Fed!!!

[@percyhawkins716]

He had no right to stop that guy period.

[@alphamale3643]

It doesnt matter. You are required by law to stop when a cop is detaining you. You cannot defend youself. If you dont like the law, then move to another Country that lets you run away from a cop.

[@jonathantoledo74]

I think that what said is good for the context

[@modelcitizen1977]

If they didn’t find marijuana on the guys body, they’re 100% going to get paid in the civil suit. Unlawful detention all day. You can ask to speak to someone, but they’re free to tell you to get fucked unless you have probable cause. Walking while black is not probable cause.

[@EdwardFlanagin]

Probable cause is for a arrest he wasn't being arrested he just needed reasonable suspicion to detain him.

[@papimaximus95]

@@EdwardFlanagin "he just needed reasonable suspicion to detain him." Which the officer did not. Walking down the street at 10pm even in the worst neighborhood is NOT reasonable suspicion.

[@baddriversofthenorcalarea500]

@@TheArmchairrocker What? He said he smelled it when he was less than 5 feet from the guy. Not in his car.

[@papimaximus95]

@@baddriversofthenorcalarea500 "What? He said he smelled it when he was less than 5 feet from the guy. Not in his car." Yeah, but he initiated the stop from his car.

[@baddriversofthenorcalarea500]

@@papimaximus95 The first lawful command and when the detention began was a 1:20, after he approached. Cops are allowed to walk towards you in public. The stop was not initiated until then.

[@troop8829]

This officer had every intention of causing harm to this kid whilst the kid was minding his own business and probably just walking home. P.s and why is this video not rated at 18+?